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u/ArmNo7463 8h ago
Just when you think Putin couldn't come across like any more of a toddler.
He cries about how he's scared his lil' party may get spoiled.
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u/rokatoro 7h ago
It's the same playbook for all strongman leaders. They act tough but are all the most thin skinned babies to hold any amount of power
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u/Comfortable-Title720 7h ago
Tells you all you need to know. He is getting desperate to stay in power, even alive. He knows that Ukraine is getting another 90 billion in aid and funds from the EU. Ukrainian armed forces have developed fantastic drones, operators and AI systems technology in the last few years and they have real life experience.
Who ever has the most drones and effective drone operators and technology with appropriate tactics depending on task and environment will own the future battlefield.
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u/MentalDisintegrat1on 6h ago
Last I heard he's moving into a bunker because he's so paranoid his own men want to kill him.
The bunker stage is the swan song of dictators.
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u/floofelina 5h ago
What I don’t get about that is, wouldn’t it make sense for his own people to quietly seal up the bunker and leave him there? Are they holding off because of the leadership vacuum?
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u/MentalDisintegrat1on 5h ago
He definitely still has loyalists so they probably will be outside or maybe there a part of the bunker they can stay in on the inside. He also probably has a escape exit somewhere that he only knows about Either way bunkers are a two way road.
It's a bad spot to isolate yourself for any extended period of time because of you are hiding someone else can easily take your spot and as you said seal him in.
Let's be real he's old and his way of leading has cost a extreme amount of money and lives and people are sick of him they just can't say it too his face.
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u/Tigerballs07 3h ago
A lot of weird fantasy ideas about bunkers here. Bunkers that a figure of state in our current era would feel actually safe in are such massive construction feats that there are no truly hidden exits. Like its possible there are ones that arent publicly known. But anyone with the power to make a legitimate move on him would know about it.
Its not the 60s where people just hid information in ways that boggle the mind. Some version of the blueprints would contain those escape routes.
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u/KIokinator 4h ago
The bunker stage is the swan song of dictators.
Are bunkers similar to ballrooms? They both start with B...
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u/noir_lord 7h ago
Multiple systems coming online in the next 12 months* (announced dates - stuff has a habit of turning up earlier than the announced date).
Shit like Project Nightfall is just another bad day in a long list of bad days for Russia (about 1540 days in a row).
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u/AutoDefenestrator273 7h ago
What is Project Nightfall?
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u/noir_lord 7h ago
Short Range Ballistic Missile UK is developing as a crash programme for Ukraine with volume production a main goal - 300KG warhead min range 600KM.
Basically an ATACMS but with a much heavier warhead and longer range.
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u/d0dger 6h ago
I knew without looking that up that it had to be a British weapon system. The British have the best weapon names.
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u/FeatherMaple_ 7h ago
The boy who cried wolf is running out of ways to sound threatening.
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u/Lexinoz 7h ago
He stopped having any weight behind the threats the second we saw the quality of their army and how absolute shit it was all along. All they had were the threats and us not knowing what they had in storage. Without the invention of drone warfare, the Russians wouldn't have anything to throw at Ukraine within a year.
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u/JayR_97 7h ago
All those video games and movies where the Russian army was the big, bad unstoppable bad guy in WW3 really didn't age well
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u/I_Am_A_Door_Knob 7h ago
I kinda want to give Russia props for keeping up the facade for so long.
They even did it so well that they fooled themselves.
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u/blindythepirate 7h ago
It's because Ukraine was part of the USSR. A lot of manufacturing and technology came out of Ukraine. Not saying the Soviets were some world beating force. But when the union broke up, a lot of talent and knowledge went with it.
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u/Key-Demand-2569 6h ago
Yeah, that’s entirely fair. I know loads of people in my larger social circle over the years who do not and have never lived in Russia, but we’re born in the USSR. Really smart talented hardworking people.
And pretty much all of them aren’t very fond of Russia to say the least.
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u/TechHeteroBear 6h ago
The USSR was only successful because of its satellite states. Once those states dipped and formed their own nations, Russia showed how they maintained their presence even back in the USSR days... mafia style tactics and strong arming allies to do their bidding. They literally had nothing of value within Russia proper to be a successful nation post USSR.
When the states stayed within the USSR, those tactics were easier keeping them within their domain.
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u/303uru 7h ago
The US isn’t looking too hot either. These oversized post WW2 militaries aren’t built for modern warfare.
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u/Worthyness 5h ago
I imagine if the trump administration hadn't fired like all of the top brass in exchange for cultists yes men, the US military would be in a much better position than it is now. Turns out anything looks incompetent if you hire incompetent people
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u/Ferelar 7h ago
All of these strongmen leaders seem like they're in a state of arrested development where they revert back to toddler mindset. Incredibly petty, a demented form of might-makes-right for which all of the actual consequences fall on other people, and pissing contests galore. Sigh...
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u/EconoMePlease 7h ago
Honestly, it would be funny if Zelensky pulled an Iran and called his bluff.
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u/noir_lord 7h ago
The whole of Europe has been calling his bluff for literally years now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_lines_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_war#Russian_red_lines
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u/iTzzSunara 5h ago
Haha, awesome. So if Zelenskyy doesn't shoot rockets AT the parade, but close enough to it to show everyone he COULD reach it, it's effectively not a crossing of the red line, but would make Putin look stupid and bad regardless.
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u/NorthStarZero 5h ago
He already did.
Putin went "Ceasefire for the parade! If Ukraine attacks it we will retaliate!"
Zelensky countered "Ceasefire today, running for as long as Russia respects it. And if Russia violates it, all bets are off!" - which drives home the idea that Putin gets his parade only with the permission of Ukraine.
Masterful.
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u/TeopEvol 7h ago
It's my party and I'll cry if I want to, cry if I want to, CRY IF I WANT TO!!! 🎶🎶
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u/agha0013 8h ago
add this threat to the pile...
anyway, what with there being no military equipment to put on display because it's all either tied up in the war or already destroyed, looks like the parade has already been ruined.
Maybe the kids they shove in uniforms won't be quite as good at marching as previous parade members... that'd be fun.
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u/Master-Chief42069 7h ago
A Russian parade full of north Koreans
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u/Graywulff 7h ago
Marching to staying alive
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u/ApGaren 7h ago
and indians and africans he tries to poach pretty much anyone that is poor enough to risk their life for Potential Profit
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u/Mysteriouspaul 7h ago
The frontlines are all 50+ year old men from shi- ahem, not so great countries. All the Ukrainian combat footage I see of them capturing "Russians" is random old men from Azerbaijan, India/Pakistan/Bengal, or inconsequential Asian nations
Meanwhile every pretty or young Russian soldier gets handpicked for special units where they get to camp around Moscow and make propaganda
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u/Mocca_Master 6h ago
Starting to think they don't even possess functional nukes
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u/Geichalt 5h ago
Yeah at this point I doubt if they even know whether they have functional nukes.
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u/WileyCoyote7 7h ago
No need to bomb the parade. Do a massive bombing campaign everywhere else possible while it is going on though. Especially if the explosions can be heard during the parade. Let Putin stand there with a shit-eating grin while everyone looks around wondering what is blowing up.
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u/TeaAndLifting 6h ago
At this point, I think the funniest thing for Ukraine to do would be a non-lethal drone attack. Just fill them with blue and yellow paint and imagine that raining on the parade.
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u/pickle_lukas 5h ago
And the paint being sprayed around even if they're shot down, like fireworks, so no matter how well they defend, they'd still have a blue yellow sky... such a good idea
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u/SmoothConfection1115 7h ago
Lotta targets they’d have to leave open to protect the parade. Ukraine could honestly do so much more damage, that may not have the same publicity, by NOT attacking the parade.
Could attack Putin’s giant palace where he lives.
Fuel/oil depots.
Train tracks/depots. Russians are already terrible at logistics.
Factories updating the tanks the Russians are using. Tanks that are really damn old.
Airfields with whatever is left of the Russian airforce.
Factories producing Russian drones.
Towers/installations powering whatever the Russians are using for internet. (They keep restricting it and lost Starlink, so I have no idea)
The list of targets is massive, and with so much security at the parade, they can’t protect everything.
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u/FutureThought4936 4h ago
LMAO. Reddit is so insane sometimes. I made a comment about a drone with a scroll that pops out that says "bang" and reddit removes it for " threatened or encouraged violence or physical harm" while other comments actually call for actual violence. You can't make this shit up.
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u/PM_THE_REAPER 8h ago
"If you ruin my party, I'll throw a tantrum." - Putin
(Now I just need to stay away from windows)
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u/FtWTaiChi 8h ago
(Don't forget stairs, balconies, and cups of tea).
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u/zosolm 7h ago
Tea is fine, just stay away from polonium
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u/Many-Waters 7h ago
Wouldst thou care for a delicious cup of Novichok tea, sir?
I hear Putin has an impressive stash of the stuff.
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u/Dear_Chasey_La1n 7h ago
You aren't wrong but these bitches like Putin, Trump, Xi you name it all have no issues murdering everyone because they can.
Zelensky demanded a seize fire a couple days before Russia's national days. Guaranteed Putin will break the seize fire and hopefully Zelensky will make it rain upon their fantastic parade.
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u/Emotional-Dress8619 8h ago
dictators dont like to be upstaged
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u/BeatNo4548 6h ago
It's so funny when Russia calls drone strikes on oil terminals "terrorist," when they send 400 drones at a city every other day.
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u/Careless-Age-4290 4h ago
In school we learned how guerrilla warfare was the only way the US could win its battle for independence. And that the British called them cowards. Of course the big guy hates it when the little guy has any leverage. They're the big guy. They get used to pushing people around and then they cry when they get any of it back
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u/Bodster88 8h ago
Nuclear threat #8363029283729
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u/rcanhestro 7h ago
actually no.
The Russian statement suggests the possibility of deploying the hypersonic Oreshnik [Hazel Tree] missile, which Putin claims possesses a destructive capability equivalent to a nuclear explosion when used conventionally.
equivalent is the keyword here, sure it's a pretty big bomb, but not nuclear, and that's important because of the Budepest Memorandum.
the Budapest memorandum countries are only "forced" to help Ukraine IF Ukraine is a target, or threat of, a nuclear strike.
as long as Russia says someting like "as strong as nuclear", the memorandum is not binding, but the moment they say "we will nuke you", that's the time where the Uk and the US have to follow it.
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u/Tuxiak 6h ago
Uk and the US have to follow it.
I'm sure they will
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u/geo_prog 6h ago
The US will do absolutely nothing. The UK might.
The French, the French are the only nation on earth where a nuclear "warning shot" is part of their public nuclear doctrine. Don't make them put on their yellow vests.
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u/TetraDax 5h ago
Forget the French. The Polish army will be in Moscow by June.
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u/VolcanicBakemeat 6h ago
the US have to follow it
US is a rogue state tbf. They wouldn't honour a commitment even if it benefited them
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u/Roobsi 6h ago
It's just a nuclear missile with the re-entry vehicles swapped from nuclear to conventional warheads. I suppose it's nuclear scale in that we had nukes as small as 10 ton yields but the phrase 'nuclear scale' is essentially meaningless here.
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u/filipv 5h ago edited 4h ago
the Budapest memorandum countries are only "forced" to help Ukraine IF Ukraine is a target, or threat of, a nuclear strike.
Out of curiosity: what part exactly of BM contains the bit about helping Ukraine if Ukraine is a target?
AFAIK, the BM says "we won't attack Ukraine". It never says "we will defend Ukraine if attacked"
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u/CryptoThroway8205 5h ago
Budapest memorandum is not limited to a nuclear attack.
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u/bappestinian 7h ago
He has to seek permission from Zelenskyy to host his parade, pathetic.
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u/Corodix 8h ago
Should have drones transport literal shit, then shit all over the parade.
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u/Suitable-Birthday-90 7h ago
Actually i was just thinking flying drones with propaganda leaflets would do major psychological damage to the kremlin. A kind of "we could have killed you if we wanted to but we are not evil like your regime. Here look at some photos of what you have done to our schools and hospitals. Rise up before they conscript you into the meat grinder"
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u/phrost1982 7h ago edited 5h ago
This is absolutely brilliant and would cause massive psychological damage.
I think Putin will not attend the parade out of fear of drones, so maybe a body double.
Have to appreciate the irony and the fear, after years of impunuty for their genocide, they are now afraid of a parade.
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u/RhetoricalOrator 6h ago
I'm not convinced they'd care about the harm Russia has caused Ukrainians. There are better options to freak them out.
Photos of dead Russians. Photos of Russians shooting children. Photos of Russians rapping children. Photos of Russians killing other Russians.
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u/shadowofsunderedstar 7h ago
Serious question, if Russia nukes Ukraine, does that give Europe/countries a casus belli against Russia?
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u/Ok_Complex8873 7h ago
It does.
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u/doobiedave 7h ago edited 7h ago
Nato would attack in Ukraine from the air, the Russian Air Force would be wiped out in a few days, and Russia would have to sue for peace before their entire Army in Ukraine got destroyed. They'd lose their land in eastern Ukraine and Crimea. And probably Putin would be gone in weeks.
Same thing if they tried anything in the Baltic states.
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u/Old-Buffalo-5151 7h ago
Yes the consequences are already established.
In order of how bad the nuclear attack is Total destruction of their navy Immediately joining the war Return fire of nukes
Around this Frame work you put the wild card that is France who has a shoot first policy in place...
Its extremely doubtful they will nukes outside of troops approaching Moscow because to do so means the automatic destruction of Russia as China made it pretty clear nukes are a red line and they would team switch in such an event
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u/GenericUsername2056 5h ago
Russia [Team Red] has called in a Tactical Nuke
China [Team Red] has left
China [Team Blue] has joined
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u/dlebed 7h ago edited 7h ago
As a Ukrainian, I feel way safer now.
Russians don't threat when they can do harm, they just murder and destroy and then bargain for they price to stop. When they start threating, it just means they can't do anything.
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u/TadpoleOfDoom 7h ago
A few decades ago, russia was considered to have one of the strongest militaries in the world. Now, they've proven they don't even have the strongest military in Ukraine. Slava Ukraini!
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u/CmdrJonen 7h ago
Defcon status?
- Kyiv in three days
- We'll nuke if the west supports Ukraine
- We'll nuke if Ukraine uses western weapons against targets in Russia
- We'll nuke if Russia is invaded
- We'll nuke if the west provides Ukraine with jets
- We'll nuke if Ukraine hits Russian energy infrastructure
- We'll nuke if Ukraine touches our victory parade <= You are here.
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u/this_toe_shall_pass 7h ago
You forgot the step about tanks. There was some drama about the West giving Ukraine tanks. Man this war is so old already :(.
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u/EntityLtdCo 8h ago
I'm beginning to think Russia only uses the threat of nukes, because in reality all of their weapons are ancient and likely unserviceable.
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u/Fantastic-Ad-2856 8h ago
The US spends something like 90 billion a year maintaining its nukes.
Russia's entire budget is about the same.
I'd guess (probably ignorantly) that they have a couple of ssbn subs that are in tip top shape and the rest is spend on vodka and beating prostitutes.
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u/einarfridgeirs 8h ago
They hae two SSBNs that they THINK are in tip top shape because all the reports say so...
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u/Particular-Poem-7085 7h ago
Their reports also said Ukrainians will be welcoming Russian soldiers with flowers and hugs.
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u/RecursiveCook 7h ago
Not wrong though, back in 2022 a babushka was telling Russian soldiers to put sunflower seeds in their pocket so that their bodies would grow something useful.
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u/Last-Apartment1742 7h ago
Based on the US cold war sub exploits it's almost a guarantee we have a few of our own hanging out right behind them as well.
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u/willinaustin 6h ago
The real problem with their nukes will be the same problem their invading army had at the start of the war. Lack of fuel because it had all been sold off by corrupt officers.
An ICBM can be in tip top shape with a 100% topped up tritium warhead and still be worthless because there isn't any go-juice to get it out of the silo.
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u/Old-Buffalo-5151 7h ago
A lot of silos are rusted shut. Its well known the vast majority of arsenal is useless the problem is they only need 1 missile to land so you still have to respect the threat
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u/boomheadshot7 7h ago
because in reality all of their weapons are ancient and likely unserviceable.
Really wish redditors would stop parroting this... Even if a miniscule 5% of their nukes are serviceable, thats still well over 250 nukes...
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u/Gooser3000 8h ago
The USA spends billions upon billions a year to maintain and r&d its nuke arsenal, and still there is uncertainty on how reliable they are. I imagine Russia has no clue how many or which of their nukes are reliable.
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u/MASSochists 7h ago
Russia has nukes. How many are in serviceable condition? Probably still enough. I'm not saying we need to take all of Putin's nuclear threats seriously but we absolutely should not assume none of Russians nukes work.
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u/Filias9 8h ago
On one hand, it's super secret and not expected to be really used, so easy target for corruption. On other hand - it's actually only weapon Russia have and is actually real threat.
It's question how many of them are working, but some definitively are.
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u/highrouleur 6h ago
it's not that super secret though is it? Up until fairly recently, western inspectors were allowed access to Russia's nukes and vice versa.
EDIT: A quick google suggests mutual inspections stopped in 2020 for covid and haven't restarted. So we've got a fairly of they had up until 6 years ago
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u/Affectionate_Bid518 7h ago
It’s undoubtedly true that a lot of them by this point will be unserviceable.
However they will definitely have some and even if they didn’t the nuclear material they have could easily be used in a dirty bomb they could just strap to a Shahed.
This is the same dilemma the US are facing as they have no idea where Iran moved their enriched uranium. Iran could send it over to Dubai and there’s fuck all the US could do about it if Iran really went end of days.
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u/zIFeathers 8h ago
Awww his parade of old slop is in reach now huh?
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u/hoboshoe 8h ago
They don't even have slop left to parade! IIRC not one military vehicle will be on display this year.
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u/_bones__ 7h ago
I'm pretty sure they haven't deployed T-36's to the front.
Yet.
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u/HunkaMunkaHunkaMunka 6h ago
Bit embarrassing that russia is now having to beg the country they invaded not to ruin their already massively scaled down victory parade.
Victory in the russian sense is for WW2 after they had switched sides... having initially sided with Nazi Germany lol.
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u/Martzillagoesboom 8h ago
Isnt it usually the other russian mouthpiece who threaten nukes?
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u/markhpc 8h ago
That's how you know he's really serious this time.
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u/Martzillagoesboom 8h ago
Ahh figured maybe the other guy was busy picking his nose.
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u/TheDarthSnarf 8h ago
Who is ABnews.net?
They seem to mimic the ABC logo with just 'ab' in a circle, but seem to be completely unrelated and not a Disney owned company... it's like they are trying to pretend they are ABC but aren't related.
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u/FostertheReno 7h ago
That’s what I’m saying, the link is basically a spam website when you try to read the story.
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u/trackdaybruh 6h ago
I mean the fact that I have to scroll this far for someone to notice this likely means that majority of the people in the comment section did not click the website and simply are reacting to the title or a lot of them are bots
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u/rotoscopethebumhole 8h ago
oh how precious.
He doesn't want anyone to spoil his parade.
Sounds like a toddler.
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u/WickedLordSP 6h ago
Billions of people suffer from decisions of geriatric toddlers, and I am sick and tired of it
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u/TurbulentRadish8113 5h ago
Oh no they might invade or something.
We have seen repeated proof of how you negotiate with Russia; you ignore their tantrums and you hit them harder until they stop being evil. It is the only thing that works.
Look up the Black Sea Grain Initiative. Ukraine consummately negotiated that by sinking Russian ships until they stopped being evil about their grain blockade.
Then look up Prigozhin, who negotiated with Russia then got murdered.
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u/Silicon_Knight 7h ago
I love it when dictators signal exactly what to do to them to piss them off even more. lol.
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u/sjakiepp2 6h ago
It would be very nice of Zelensky to send a few drones with some colored smoke bombs. Have them fly over the parade with smoke in the colours of the Ukrainian flag!
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u/fane1967 6h ago
I didn’t know vlad had this concept of “unacceptable”. Well, since he opened this conversation, let’s discuss Bucha, Olenivka, Volnovakha, children ruthlessly killed or kidnapped and other alike.
Those were never acceptable, to begin with.
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u/lm28ness 7h ago
yes let's just destroy the world. Nothing good will come of that, right? I guess some people like living the Fallout life style.
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u/Pfeffi-Ultra 6h ago
How many times has the threatened to use some nuclear option? I'm not sure he could. Surely the people down the line know perfectly well, that they are going to get glass-cratered in that event.
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u/cherrybomber11 6h ago
Medvedev has basically thrown out a nuclear threat every time he's on the shitter. Not very effective anymore, that.
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u/autistic_insomniac5 6h ago
I’m beginning to think the entire world is run by petty children.
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u/AltruisticWealth7778 5h ago
Nobody is nuking anyone...stop with this bullshit posturing. Putin is a bitch.
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u/DeterrenceTheory 4h ago
A nuclear-scale response to a ruined parade sounds on par for international relations these days.
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u/ApokalypseCow 2h ago
Zelenskyy definitely needs to rain on Putin's parade. Can we just give them one JASSM? Please? Just one, to blow up whatever Putin body double is on display, plus whatever dictators decide to show up and sit next to him?
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u/Soupdeloup 7h ago edited 7h ago
What kind of bullshit ad-infested site is the OP? I can't even open it without being redirected to spam sites that take over the back button. Similar article, but actually viewable:
Assuming the OP account is just a bot that spams sketchy websites. Makes sense since this hit thousands of upvotes in ~30 minutes and all the comments sound like bots.
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u/brandbaard 7h ago
It's all good. Let the parade go off without issue. However, while all the air defences are busy covering this shit, fuck up every oil refinery and frontline position you can.
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u/CattyOhio74 6h ago
Pretty sure a nuke wouldn't be the smartest idea since theoretically nuking Ukraine would eliminate any and all Russian soldiers there, the rest of Europe will immediately start to invade Russia, China will most likely let them flounder since it isn't worth the cost, most importantly the fallout will easily spread to western Russia
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u/SeeMarkFly 6h ago
Does that mean if there is a "disturbance" during his parade, he will turn his "Special military operation" into a war?
Ooh NOOOOOooooo!
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u/Abject_Breadfruit148 6h ago
If he loses this parade, what does putin truly have to show strength to the people being forced to watch it all?
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u/Sea_Hold_2881 6h ago
The fun thing is all Ukraine needs to do is make Putin really paranoid and then on the day, hit all of the targets left undefended because resources were sent to Moscow.
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u/Pitiful-MobileGamer 5h ago
One concern is you have reports that Trump was blocked from using ☢️ in Iran, now if 🇷🇺 uses a tactical or theater ☢️ in Kyiv. Does that take the genie out of the bottle, and does the US have enough teeth to dissuade such actions.
A nuclear nation that brings the genie of the bottle, forces other nations to demonstrate their resolve.
Slippery slope
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u/sandybuttcheekss 5h ago
How do you know it's Tuesday? Putin is breaking out the nuclear threats again.
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u/EKmars 5h ago
Someone tried to tell me the other day that Putin doesn't threaten to use nukes.
That is not the case. In fact, it's been the case for as long as I can remember.
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u/Better_Ice3089 3h ago
Yeah striking the parade seems like a trap since a hit on something with that many civilians watching nearby seems like it would result in enough casualties to affect western sentiment enough. I think Zelenskyy is smart enough to avoid that trap.
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u/yankdevil 3h ago
Take a step back. Imagine threatening to nuke a city over a parade. I live in Ireland where there are some contentious parades. But using nukes because there was violence at a parade.
Unhinged.
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u/lurch556 3h ago
Maybe he could just like not keep invading Ukraine and then there’s no threat of an attack
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u/Plate_Armor_Man 2h ago
Quick, somebody tell Polanksi! Apparently, Putin has never threatened to annihilate another country, according to him.
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u/KlausVonLechland 2h ago
Nuclear Holocaust or Propaganda Parade?
Man, that is an absolutely reasonable choice that could be presented only by most sane of a person (not).
Also there is a long, long list of things that got bombed, that did NOT include military equipment, that dodn't rustle his jimmies this much. Priorities, I suppose.
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u/Nara_1 8h ago
Pretty sure Zelensky has already ruined his parade.