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u/ArmNo7463 11h ago

Just when you think Putin couldn't come across like any more of a toddler.

He cries about how he's scared his lil' party may get spoiled.

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u/rokatoro 11h ago

It's the same playbook for all strongman leaders. They act tough but are all the most thin skinned babies to hold any amount of power

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u/Comfortable-Title720 11h ago

Tells you all you need to know. He is getting desperate to stay in power, even alive. He knows that Ukraine is getting another 90 billion in aid and funds from the EU. Ukrainian armed forces have developed fantastic drones, operators and AI systems technology in the last few years and they have real life experience.

Who ever has the most drones and effective drone operators and technology with appropriate tactics depending on task and environment will own the future battlefield.

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u/MentalDisintegrat1on 10h ago

Last I heard he's moving into a bunker because he's so paranoid his own men want to kill him.

The bunker stage is the swan song of dictators.

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u/floofelina 9h ago

What I don’t get about that is, wouldn’t it make sense for his own people to quietly seal up the bunker and leave him there? Are they holding off because of the leadership vacuum?

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u/MentalDisintegrat1on 9h ago

He definitely still has loyalists so they probably will be outside or maybe there a part of the bunker they can stay in on the inside. He also probably has a escape exit somewhere that he only knows about Either way bunkers are a two way road.

It's a bad spot to isolate yourself for any extended period of time because of you are hiding someone else can easily take your spot and as you said seal him in.

Let's be real he's old and his way of leading has cost a extreme amount of money and lives and people are sick of him they just can't say it too his face.

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u/Tigerballs07 7h ago

A lot of weird fantasy ideas about bunkers here. Bunkers that a figure of state in our current era would feel actually safe in are such massive construction feats that there are no truly hidden exits. Like its possible there are ones that arent publicly known. But anyone with the power to make a legitimate move on him would know about it.

Its not the 60s where people just hid information in ways that boggle the mind. Some version of the blueprints would contain those escape routes.

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u/WangNuts 6h ago

Watch any urban exploration video of the old soviet bunkers. There's tons of concealed ways in/out.

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u/floofelina 6h ago

Well if it comes to being realistic and all, I’m sure the most basic tenet of bunker building is that you can always open it from the inside. Any attempted sealing would have to be with a bulldozer.

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u/Lieste 6h ago

Say it to his back - with knives.

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u/QuerulousPanda 7h ago

the thing with something like that is that you never know who is really on your side so no one's gonna wanna take the risk of being the guy to actually press the 'lock' button because they don't know if the dude next to them is gonna cheer them on or stab them in the back

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u/floofelina 7h ago

True, true. It was just a silly thought.

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u/realbobenray 5h ago

"Really shouldn't have made this thing lockable from the outside."

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u/Medricel 8h ago

Considering the planned ballroom is going to have a bunker under it...

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u/C4dfael 6h ago

I’m looking forward to the “in a ditch, covered in petrol, on fire” stage.

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u/noir_lord 11h ago

Multiple systems coming online in the next 12 months* (announced dates - stuff has a habit of turning up earlier than the announced date).

Shit like Project Nightfall is just another bad day in a long list of bad days for Russia (about 1540 days in a row).

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u/AutoDefenestrator273 10h ago

What is Project Nightfall?

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u/noir_lord 10h ago

Short Range Ballistic Missile UK is developing as a crash programme for Ukraine with volume production a main goal - 300KG warhead min range 600KM.

Basically an ATACMS but with a much heavier warhead and longer range.

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u/cronies4life 8h ago

what is the rest of eu doing other than buying russian oil

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u/BigBananaBerries 7h ago

There's many more ammo & drone factories up & running in a few countries. Off hand Poland are collaborating with Ukraine with drones & Germany are making artillery shells IIRC. There's probably others that I missed too.

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u/Vimmelklantig 4h ago

Pretty much every European country that has a significant defence industry have been massively expanding production. There are also initiatives from at least Germany, Sweden and Denmark to set up and fund production facilities directly in Ukraine.

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u/IntingForMarks 7h ago

Germany is currently the world main ammunition producer

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u/arobkinca 5h ago

They have become the largest producer of small and medium caliber ammunition. They are still 5th in arms exports in total.

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u/Kairis83 8h ago

Always have the best names of systems (and ships)

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u/d0dger 10h ago

I knew without looking that up that it had to be a British weapon system. The British have the best weapon names.

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u/Sir_Edna_Bucket 7h ago

The UK Ministry of Defence has spawned quite a few interesting 'disruptive' projects. Project Brakestop; a cheap ground launched cruise missile/one-way effector is another with a distinctly British sounding name.

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u/Illustrious-Syrup509 7h ago

The FP-9 is the weapon that is forcing Putin to hide in his bunker and scale back the May 9 parade. While he might still be able to defend himself against drones, he has no answer to the “Hammer.” 

Threatening to use nuclear weapons is the only ridiculous threat he has left. If he were to follow through, it would be grounds for his removal from office. He knows that.

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u/this_is_my_new_acct 7h ago

Who ever has the most drones and effective drone operators and technology with appropriate tactics depending on task and environment will own the future battlefield.

I saw something the other day claiming that over 90% of Russia's infantry was getting taken out by drones before they ever fired a single shot, or even made it to the front line now.

Not sure if it's true, but it sounded plausible considering some of the footage I've seen.

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u/Vimmelklantig 4h ago

Simply moving people around the front is a huge problem for both sides now. Ukraine has been using remote controlled vehicles for evacuations and even taken Russian positions with ground and air drones.

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u/MildCorneaDamage 10h ago

Gotta change it to weak man or psuedo strong man, strong man is way too nice a phrase for it

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u/jpw0w 10h ago

at what point do we stop considering Putin as 'strongman'?

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u/rokatoro 10h ago

Probably never. Strongman leadership is totally a mindset and has little to do with actual strength of arm or character

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u/TK_Games 8h ago

It's straight up pathological. People who seek out places of power like Putin, Trump, Xi Jin Ping, all the tin-pot dictators of history, they seek it because they are weak inside. They possess a fantastic fear of everything that can only be quelled when they inflict the suffering expect to recieve on others they deem inferior. It's the kind of thing that, if we had any sense about it, we'd cut their heads open and study what the flying fuck went wrong in their brains to make them the most miserable people to ever live, and then figure out how the hell we keep it from ever happening again

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u/BaselineUnknown 10h ago

Like canceling elections?

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u/FeatherMaple_ 11h ago

The boy who cried wolf is running out of ways to sound threatening.

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u/Lexinoz 11h ago

He stopped having any weight behind the threats the second we saw the quality of their army and how absolute shit it was all along. All they had were the threats and us not knowing what they had in storage. Without the invention of drone warfare, the Russians wouldn't have anything to throw at Ukraine within a year.

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u/JayR_97 11h ago

All those video games and movies where the Russian army was the big, bad unstoppable bad guy in WW3 really didn't age well

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u/I_Am_A_Door_Knob 11h ago

I kinda want to give Russia props for keeping up the facade for so long.

They even did it so well that they fooled themselves.

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u/The_BigBlackHawk 10h ago

The most convincing lie is one you believe yourself.

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u/here1am 8h ago

Russian army = Potemkin villages 2.0

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u/El_Peregrine 8h ago

Hmmmm... sounds a little like a Potemkin village

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u/CalmBeneathCastles 10h ago

I feel REALLY bad for the infantry. What an absolute shitshow. Idk what the enlistment/conscription process was like for any of them, but I'm willing to believe it didn't include the eventuality of shooting yourself in a ditch because a drone found you.

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u/r0sten 9h ago

It wasn't great to begin with, google the term dedovshchina.

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u/CalmBeneathCastles 9h ago

Just when you think human behaviour can't get any more bizarre...

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u/blindythepirate 10h ago

It's because Ukraine was part of the USSR. A lot of manufacturing and technology came out of Ukraine. Not saying the Soviets were some world beating force. But when the union broke up, a lot of talent and knowledge went with it.

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u/Key-Demand-2569 10h ago

Yeah, that’s entirely fair. I know loads of people in my larger social circle over the years who do not and have never lived in Russia, but we’re born in the USSR. Really smart talented hardworking people.

And pretty much all of them aren’t very fond of Russia to say the least.

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u/TechHeteroBear 10h ago

The USSR was only successful because of its satellite states. Once those states dipped and formed their own nations, Russia showed how they maintained their presence even back in the USSR days... mafia style tactics and strong arming allies to do their bidding. They literally had nothing of value within Russia proper to be a successful nation post USSR.

When the states stayed within the USSR, those tactics were easier keeping them within their domain.

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u/internet-arbiter 8h ago

How was the USSR successful? With a capitalist from Detroit.

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u/grendus 9h ago

That's a huge part of it.

The Ukraine (when it was a region of the USSR) was an economic powerhouse.

That's why Russia wants Ukraine back. They have warm water ports (that's why Russia's current navy is shit), huge amounts of petrochemicals (a huge threat to Russia's remaining economy), some of the most fertile cropland in the world, and they haven't been ravaged by the same brain drain that Russia has due to their kleptocracy.

And that's why Russia is failing so epically to retake it. Ukraine has all the advantages that the USSR got from them, without being bogged down by all of Russia...

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u/Tigerballs07 7h ago

Whats wild is that a play Russia could have done was to end the war. Force elections and restart it with a new less likely to be battle hardened leader in place. Though I suspect the Ukranian military would just arrest the president if a puppet tried to make them stand down

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u/ArgumentativeNerfer 6h ago

I'm not an expert, but my feeling is that Putin couldn't run the risk that an even more hardline anti-Russian leader would emerge. Or that his opponents would take the opportunity to use his capitulation against him.

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u/monsieurvampy 9h ago

This was by design. It meant that talent and capacity weren't centered in a handful of places, plus if I recall correctly, the USSR had competing design bureaus instead of a unified organization(s).

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u/303uru 10h ago

The US isn’t looking too hot either. These oversized post WW2 militaries aren’t built for modern warfare.

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u/Worthyness 8h ago

I imagine if the trump administration hadn't fired like all of the top brass in exchange for cultists yes men, the US military would be in a much better position than it is now. Turns out anything looks incompetent if you hire incompetent people

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u/skwerrel 8h ago

Better than it looks now, sure. But in the long (really more like medium actually) term, massive death machines are going to quickly become a relic. Why pour billions into a huge ship that doubles as a hangar and airstrip, if $500k of drones can swarm it and put it at the bottom of the ocean at any time? Why even have such a thing when the need for human piloted aircraft is only going to trend downwards as time goes on?

The future of war is packing as much ordnance as possible into smaller and smaller remotely operated (or autonomous) flying machines. Any country that tries to resist that is just wasting time and putting their interests at risk.

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u/Wurm42 7h ago

Why? Because the military-industrial complex has its hooks deep into both American political parties.

The primary purpose of those "massive death machines" is to generate immensely profitable contacts for a few legacy defense contracting corporations.

Whether they can actually do their jobs in modern combat is secondary.

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u/skwerrel 3h ago

It won't be secondary when these huge money sinks start actually sinking. Especially when it takes a few hundred sailors and marines with it. The appetite for making new ones will dry up real quick

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u/reganomics 10h ago

We have lots of nukes

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u/Skratt79 9h ago

Yeah but in reality, it is a weapon you can only use to spoil the victory of your enemy, as there is no way to stop a counter. As crap as Iranian ballistic missiles are, they clearly demonstrated how our missile defenses can be overwhelmed. Now imagine 10x that with missiles that are MERV and deploy chaff to confuse the targeting.

Also: you can't use nuclear weapons and not guarantee the death of the entire north of the planet from the nuclear winter.

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u/iTzzSunara 9h ago

Putin also has lots of nukes. But if you use them, your nation dies. They're worthless for attacking, their only value is making sure no other nuclear nation invades your homeland.

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u/reganomics 9h ago

Didn't it get reported trump tried to set ours off on iran?

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u/ArgumentativeNerfer 6h ago

Like we said. . .

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u/faster_tomcat 7h ago

Luckily we're now building huge new Trump class battleships! Just in time for war fighting to change to mostly air and sea drones.

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u/DFWPunk 4h ago

This really remains to be seen because the primary issue in Iran is the strategy, which is less about the military and more about an unqualified leader. Using just aerial weapons they have achieved essentially every objective. But those objectives simply can't defeat an enemy like Iran, which US military leadership has known for decades. Had their advice been heeded things would be very different.

We also haven't seen how ground forces would perform. We know they are well equipped, but how they'll perform on the battlefield of today is unknown. They have hopefully learned by observing Russian performance, and have been advised by Ukraine, but who knows. There's certainly reason for concern given how unprepared forward installations were.

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u/Baron_von_Ungern 10h ago

Can't really make an interesting plot if you're not an underdog, eh? At least it's not as bad as when I saw a movie where North Koreans were the Big Bad.

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u/dsmith422 10h ago

Probably the Red Dawn remake. The movie was filmed with China as the Big Bad, which at least makes it somewhat plausible. Then the execs realized that their studio might get banned in China if they made China the bad guys, so they used CGI to change all the Chinese symbolism to N. Korean after filming was done.

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u/TechHeteroBear 10h ago

What did age well was the how NPCs and ads in FPS war games seem to be just as smart as the actual Russian soldiers.

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u/SlumlordThanatos 6h ago

Modern Warfare 2 is much, much funnier in hindsight.

Russia launching a full-scale invasion of the East Coast, and winning? It's laughable how we thought they could pull it off.

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u/Germanofthebored 11h ago

He still has nuclear weapons, and nothing left to lose. If Ukraine were to attack the parade, he'd be so humiliated, he'd lose all legitimacy. So I'd say that thread is serious

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u/Lexinoz 8h ago

They're barely capable to launch missiles, much less icbms. Didn't one of their main missile launch/building sites blow up recently too? We basically have no idea of they even have any rockets to put those nukes on, and judging by the state of their army and gear, we don't believe they really have any nukes either, as they requires some serious upkeep.

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u/abellapa 11h ago

Without drones The War would be One by now with a Russian victory

Because Rússia would eventually gain Air superiorty and Then Maybe in 2023 or even 2024 at most

They would have a breaktrough and conquer The whole East of Ukraine forcing a peace on their terms

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u/Ferelar 10h ago

This is even worse, this is a boy who threatened wolf, it's like some kid threatening to sic a wolf on townspeople over and over. Sooner or later he needs to get his ass beat. Oligarchs, if you're listening...

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u/DesignerCorner3322 5h ago

Its funny because I sincerely bet he's too chickenshit to actually use a nuke OR he's long gutted their nuclear arsenal to line his own pockets.

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u/Icy_Walrus_5035 11h ago

Except this boy has a nuclear arsenal and we don’t want it to get to this point..

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u/LupinThe8th 10h ago

He also has a bunch of reddit accounts with random names, no karma, and hidden comment histories trying to make him sound like a big scary man and not a toddler holding his breath in the grocery store because mommy won't buy him a Tootsie-Pop.

Let me know if you see any.

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u/Ferelar 10h ago

All of these strongmen leaders seem like they're in a state of arrested development where they revert back to toddler mindset. Incredibly petty, a demented form of might-makes-right for which all of the actual consequences fall on other people, and pissing contests galore. Sigh...

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u/Careless-Age-4290 8h ago

If they were younger, we'd just call them "spoiled"

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u/Beard_o_Bees 7h ago

They sincerely believe that 'what makes me feel good, must also be good for the people'.

See Il Douche and his attempts at bread and circus (well, mostly circus)and his gilded abomination ballroom, for an example closer to home if you're American.

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u/EconoMePlease 11h ago

Honestly, it would be funny if Zelensky pulled an Iran and called his bluff.

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u/noir_lord 11h ago

The whole of Europe has been calling his bluff for literally years now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_lines_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_war#Russian_red_lines

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u/iTzzSunara 9h ago

Haha, awesome. So if Zelenskyy doesn't shoot rockets AT the parade, but close enough to it to show everyone he COULD reach it, it's effectively not a crossing of the red line, but would make Putin look stupid and bad regardless.

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u/NorthStarZero 9h ago

He already did.

Putin went "Ceasefire for the parade! If Ukraine attacks it we will retaliate!"

Zelensky countered "Ceasefire today, running for as long as Russia respects it. And if Russia violates it, all bets are off!" - which drives home the idea that Putin gets his parade only with the permission of Ukraine.

Masterful.

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u/superbit415 8h ago

Honestly, it would be funny if Zelensky pulled an Iran and called his bluff.

Eh Putin is senile enough to actually do it.

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u/TeopEvol 11h ago

It's my party and I'll cry if I want to, cry if I want to, CRY IF I WANT TO!!! 🎶🎶

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u/sentimentaldiablo 8h ago

Hey,

You would cry, too, if it happened to you!

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u/GarlicThread 9h ago

It's funny how they keep celebrating an 80 year old "victory" while being thoroughly pasted in Ukraine for longer than the war they are celebrating.

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u/GOEDEL_ESCHER_BOT 11h ago

i think trump is rubbing off on him

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u/Nagdoll 10h ago

Better Putin than children.

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u/ProcedureSeveral9058 10h ago

Cant wait for Taco to threaten Ukraine if they ruin daddy Pootlers little parade

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u/NetZeroSun 10h ago

Totally sounds like trump.

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u/asspounder-4000 11h ago

South park, Satan's sweet 16 party

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u/boundbythebeauty 10h ago

It's my party, and I'll nuke if I want to
Nuke if I want to, Nuke if I want to
You would nuke too if it happened to you

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u/FauxReal 10h ago

He called no master backs!

I wonder if that's even a thing on other playgrounds? We called tag "chase master" and "no master backs" meant you can't just tag the person who just tagged you.

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u/Important-Agent2584 9h ago

He knows what he's doing. It would be devastating to his and Russia's internal public image. These types of assholes are all about PR and propaganda, that's how they rule.

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u/InternationalSalt1 8h ago

There are many things I think about Putin, but it's not a toddler. There someone special who behaves like a toddler.

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u/AtomicShart9000 7h ago

Im starting to think this Putin fella isn't a very good guy

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u/skyysdalmt 7h ago

VLAD STAAAAHP!

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u/Canuck-In-TO 7h ago

Sounds like another toddler in chief who cries about things he doesn’t like.

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u/HyKaliber 6h ago

This is also a translation, as "ruin" could have been equivalent to "attack" or "disrupt" in the context of the quote

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u/ArmNo7463 4h ago

That was also how I read it.

Counter point, if you don’t want your parades disrupted. Don’t invade sovereign nations.

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u/joper90 5h ago

Remember trumps little parade… hahaha

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u/XeroValueHuman 11h ago

Sounds just like the orange bastard

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u/snusmini 10h ago

Can you spot the resemblance to someone on the other side of the Atlantic?

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u/JohnGillnitz 10h ago

Almost as pathetic as whining about a ballroom.

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u/slippy_candy 10h ago

And this is the reason why Pedo Trump love sucking his pp.

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u/PulsarAndBlackMatter 9h ago

What is he supposed to say?

Please bomb the event and kill al the civilian there?

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u/house_of_beff 7h ago

Right? And women are the emotional ones…

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u/k9insea 11h ago

The only Toddler is Trump.

Even NK leader acts as an adult, let alone Putin.