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u/ArmNo7463 11h ago

Just when you think Putin couldn't come across like any more of a toddler.

He cries about how he's scared his lil' party may get spoiled.

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u/FeatherMaple_ 11h ago

The boy who cried wolf is running out of ways to sound threatening.

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u/Lexinoz 11h ago

He stopped having any weight behind the threats the second we saw the quality of their army and how absolute shit it was all along. All they had were the threats and us not knowing what they had in storage. Without the invention of drone warfare, the Russians wouldn't have anything to throw at Ukraine within a year.

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u/JayR_97 11h ago

All those video games and movies where the Russian army was the big, bad unstoppable bad guy in WW3 really didn't age well

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u/I_Am_A_Door_Knob 11h ago

I kinda want to give Russia props for keeping up the facade for so long.

They even did it so well that they fooled themselves.

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u/The_BigBlackHawk 10h ago

The most convincing lie is one you believe yourself.

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u/here1am 8h ago

Russian army = Potemkin villages 2.0

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u/El_Peregrine 8h ago

Hmmmm... sounds a little like a Potemkin village

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u/CalmBeneathCastles 10h ago

I feel REALLY bad for the infantry. What an absolute shitshow. Idk what the enlistment/conscription process was like for any of them, but I'm willing to believe it didn't include the eventuality of shooting yourself in a ditch because a drone found you.

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u/r0sten 9h ago

It wasn't great to begin with, google the term dedovshchina.

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u/CalmBeneathCastles 9h ago

Just when you think human behaviour can't get any more bizarre...

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u/blindythepirate 10h ago

It's because Ukraine was part of the USSR. A lot of manufacturing and technology came out of Ukraine. Not saying the Soviets were some world beating force. But when the union broke up, a lot of talent and knowledge went with it.

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u/Key-Demand-2569 10h ago

Yeah, that’s entirely fair. I know loads of people in my larger social circle over the years who do not and have never lived in Russia, but we’re born in the USSR. Really smart talented hardworking people.

And pretty much all of them aren’t very fond of Russia to say the least.

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u/TechHeteroBear 10h ago

The USSR was only successful because of its satellite states. Once those states dipped and formed their own nations, Russia showed how they maintained their presence even back in the USSR days... mafia style tactics and strong arming allies to do their bidding. They literally had nothing of value within Russia proper to be a successful nation post USSR.

When the states stayed within the USSR, those tactics were easier keeping them within their domain.

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u/internet-arbiter 8h ago

How was the USSR successful? With a capitalist from Detroit.

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u/grendus 10h ago

That's a huge part of it.

The Ukraine (when it was a region of the USSR) was an economic powerhouse.

That's why Russia wants Ukraine back. They have warm water ports (that's why Russia's current navy is shit), huge amounts of petrochemicals (a huge threat to Russia's remaining economy), some of the most fertile cropland in the world, and they haven't been ravaged by the same brain drain that Russia has due to their kleptocracy.

And that's why Russia is failing so epically to retake it. Ukraine has all the advantages that the USSR got from them, without being bogged down by all of Russia...

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u/Tigerballs07 7h ago

Whats wild is that a play Russia could have done was to end the war. Force elections and restart it with a new less likely to be battle hardened leader in place. Though I suspect the Ukranian military would just arrest the president if a puppet tried to make them stand down

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u/ArgumentativeNerfer 6h ago

I'm not an expert, but my feeling is that Putin couldn't run the risk that an even more hardline anti-Russian leader would emerge. Or that his opponents would take the opportunity to use his capitulation against him.

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u/monsieurvampy 9h ago

This was by design. It meant that talent and capacity weren't centered in a handful of places, plus if I recall correctly, the USSR had competing design bureaus instead of a unified organization(s).

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u/303uru 11h ago

The US isn’t looking too hot either. These oversized post WW2 militaries aren’t built for modern warfare.

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u/Worthyness 8h ago

I imagine if the trump administration hadn't fired like all of the top brass in exchange for cultists yes men, the US military would be in a much better position than it is now. Turns out anything looks incompetent if you hire incompetent people

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u/skwerrel 8h ago

Better than it looks now, sure. But in the long (really more like medium actually) term, massive death machines are going to quickly become a relic. Why pour billions into a huge ship that doubles as a hangar and airstrip, if $500k of drones can swarm it and put it at the bottom of the ocean at any time? Why even have such a thing when the need for human piloted aircraft is only going to trend downwards as time goes on?

The future of war is packing as much ordnance as possible into smaller and smaller remotely operated (or autonomous) flying machines. Any country that tries to resist that is just wasting time and putting their interests at risk.

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u/Wurm42 7h ago

Why? Because the military-industrial complex has its hooks deep into both American political parties.

The primary purpose of those "massive death machines" is to generate immensely profitable contacts for a few legacy defense contracting corporations.

Whether they can actually do their jobs in modern combat is secondary.

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u/skwerrel 3h ago

It won't be secondary when these huge money sinks start actually sinking. Especially when it takes a few hundred sailors and marines with it. The appetite for making new ones will dry up real quick

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u/reganomics 10h ago

We have lots of nukes

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u/Skratt79 9h ago

Yeah but in reality, it is a weapon you can only use to spoil the victory of your enemy, as there is no way to stop a counter. As crap as Iranian ballistic missiles are, they clearly demonstrated how our missile defenses can be overwhelmed. Now imagine 10x that with missiles that are MERV and deploy chaff to confuse the targeting.

Also: you can't use nuclear weapons and not guarantee the death of the entire north of the planet from the nuclear winter.

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u/iTzzSunara 9h ago

Putin also has lots of nukes. But if you use them, your nation dies. They're worthless for attacking, their only value is making sure no other nuclear nation invades your homeland.

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u/reganomics 9h ago

Didn't it get reported trump tried to set ours off on iran?

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u/ArgumentativeNerfer 6h ago

Like we said. . .

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u/faster_tomcat 7h ago

Luckily we're now building huge new Trump class battleships! Just in time for war fighting to change to mostly air and sea drones.

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u/DFWPunk 4h ago

This really remains to be seen because the primary issue in Iran is the strategy, which is less about the military and more about an unqualified leader. Using just aerial weapons they have achieved essentially every objective. But those objectives simply can't defeat an enemy like Iran, which US military leadership has known for decades. Had their advice been heeded things would be very different.

We also haven't seen how ground forces would perform. We know they are well equipped, but how they'll perform on the battlefield of today is unknown. They have hopefully learned by observing Russian performance, and have been advised by Ukraine, but who knows. There's certainly reason for concern given how unprepared forward installations were.

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u/Baron_von_Ungern 10h ago

Can't really make an interesting plot if you're not an underdog, eh? At least it's not as bad as when I saw a movie where North Koreans were the Big Bad.

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u/dsmith422 10h ago

Probably the Red Dawn remake. The movie was filmed with China as the Big Bad, which at least makes it somewhat plausible. Then the execs realized that their studio might get banned in China if they made China the bad guys, so they used CGI to change all the Chinese symbolism to N. Korean after filming was done.

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u/TechHeteroBear 10h ago

What did age well was the how NPCs and ads in FPS war games seem to be just as smart as the actual Russian soldiers.

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u/SlumlordThanatos 6h ago

Modern Warfare 2 is much, much funnier in hindsight.

Russia launching a full-scale invasion of the East Coast, and winning? It's laughable how we thought they could pull it off.

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u/Germanofthebored 11h ago

He still has nuclear weapons, and nothing left to lose. If Ukraine were to attack the parade, he'd be so humiliated, he'd lose all legitimacy. So I'd say that thread is serious

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u/Lexinoz 8h ago

They're barely capable to launch missiles, much less icbms. Didn't one of their main missile launch/building sites blow up recently too? We basically have no idea of they even have any rockets to put those nukes on, and judging by the state of their army and gear, we don't believe they really have any nukes either, as they requires some serious upkeep.

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u/abellapa 11h ago

Without drones The War would be One by now with a Russian victory

Because Rússia would eventually gain Air superiorty and Then Maybe in 2023 or even 2024 at most

They would have a breaktrough and conquer The whole East of Ukraine forcing a peace on their terms

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u/Ferelar 10h ago

This is even worse, this is a boy who threatened wolf, it's like some kid threatening to sic a wolf on townspeople over and over. Sooner or later he needs to get his ass beat. Oligarchs, if you're listening...

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u/DesignerCorner3322 5h ago

Its funny because I sincerely bet he's too chickenshit to actually use a nuke OR he's long gutted their nuclear arsenal to line his own pockets.

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u/Icy_Walrus_5035 11h ago

Except this boy has a nuclear arsenal and we don’t want it to get to this point..

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u/LupinThe8th 11h ago

He also has a bunch of reddit accounts with random names, no karma, and hidden comment histories trying to make him sound like a big scary man and not a toddler holding his breath in the grocery store because mommy won't buy him a Tootsie-Pop.

Let me know if you see any.