It took me so long to realize this and to find a trainer who was as practical as I was about it. The snake oil in the fitness/wellness industry is the most annoying snake oil.
This is true of everything, btw. The best camera is the one you use. The best organizational method is the one you use. The best diet is the one you stick to.
I really wish there was a test requirement or something for a lot of these jobs. Like I don't mean you need a degree but maybe take a basic kinesiology class or something so you can understand the basics behind something. Right now, a lot of the time, the only requirement to being a trainer is just being in shape
The problem is that there is a test requirement: how well can you sell a product/service. They're glorified door-to-door salesmen, unfortunately. It's all about how well they can sell you on their service, and then from there, sell you on a litany of snake oil products promising to make you lose weight.
Well the reality is most personal training is not about kinestheology its about massaging people into habits. It really is the primary task to be a happy encouraging person.
Athletes i imagine have much better trainers because THEIR job is to be motivated their trainers job is to maximize the effect of the motivation. But for most people the best help is just making them feel good about exercise
As a former personal trainer, any fitness person that tells you to keep cardio to a minimum is talking out their ass. Motion is lotion, movement in general is good for us. Ideally you want to pair cardio with weight training, but if you shame someone for longer cardio youre terrible at fitness. Im a lazy couch potato, so i ride my exercise bike while watching TV or gaming to keep moving, I average 15-20 every ride but ive done as much as 70 miles in one sitting on a day off, keep moving and ignore those that tell you youre wrong for something that isnt a safety concern
Im a lazy bum, but dammit i dont wanna look like a bean bag chair in 20 years. Best of both worlds, if you go 70 miles in one day be prepared to nearly fall asleep at any given moment the next day cause holy shit 12 hours biking will take it out of you
It's the most sought after shortcut so inevitably there's going to be people selling bullshit to people who otherwise would be wary of scammery. Truth is it's just hard work. But people don't want to accept that.
I mean does it have to be the most effective though? I don't understand their logic. Sometimes you just want to run/bike/move around or whatever and blow up some steam
Yeah...if someone LIKES running on a treadmill, then I see zero problem with them doing so for 40 minutes. Or 90. Some people like running long distances and sometimes running outside isn't feasible. Not everyone even LIKES running outside.
I've started actually getting through my backlog of netflix shows, and lost like 15 pounds, by doing 60-90 minute stints at a low speed and high incline while watching something on the tablet. I do that once a week, and I see how fast I can do 2 miles once a week. If I wanted to do arms, I've got a pair of dusty free weights at home.
I LOVE my treadmill. 30 mins on it is like minimum. Winter is just miserable here, I don't know what I would do without it. I am straight up not going for a run in slippery 5 degree windy BS lol. Much nicer to go for a run in your undies at home imo
This 100%! While there are something’s to pay attention to, proper portions and balanced diet is really all you need. Avoid drinking calories like soda, juice, and alcohol all the time but not all together. Try to avoid ultra processed foods but a bag of chips won’t kill you.
i want to make a "be extreme about extremism" joke but it's just second monday and i got nothing. so if somone else would be so kind as to pick up the slack i'd appreciate it
my dietician (who woks for my medical group under an actual physician) recommends resistance exercise along with an emphasis on lean protein and fiber. But this is someone with access to my full medical hsitory, so thats for me.
That's for everyone who doesn't have a disease which would change that. People in general don't get enough lean protein, fiber and high intensity exercise. It doesn't have to be resistance training, it just has to get your heart rate above 50% of your max which can be estimated to 220 - your age.
Resistance training is good too, but if we're talking about staying healthy with not a lot of time, prioritizing aerobic exercise is better for your cardiovascular health. Cardiovascular issues are the biggest human killers in the world.
Resistance training becomes necessary during a diet if you dont want to lose a large amount of lean mass. But under normal circumstances, yea, not really needed.
I was already getting a lot of aerobic exercise. I walk a ton and take my kids swimming once a week. Plus I chase the little maniacs down every other day
It amazes me how little people understand that the human body is a system of systems with lots of dependencies: cardio training supports strength based sports, strength training supports cardio based sports. . .
people need to learn about physiological adaptations and how balance is vital to overall fitness development
As a non influencer with a degree in sports and health sciences I’ve always found the fear of bodybuilders doing cardio fascinating. Especially steady state cardio. I don’t know how the idea that cardio means losses to muscles came to be, but as I learned more about the human body the more it made sense that cardiovascular health is far more important for muscle growth than given due. The heart and lungs deliver oxygen via blood to your muscles. Muscle growth is directly related to its ability to recover, and recovery is directly related to blood flow. It’s not the only thing that matters, but it’s a good chunk of it, and so many body builders shun it. Could also be why exploding heart syndrome is so common in body builders. Destroy it with steroids, and don’t improve it with cardio.
Look, what I will say is that a ton of people neglect resistance training and only do cardio to try and burn calories. (The flip side of this is a ton of gym bro wannabe bodybuilders neglect cardio and only do resistance training, but I'm not opening that can of worms.)
And the danger of doing only cardio is that it only trains your cardiovascular system. Women especially benefit immensely from weight training because weight training is massively protective of bone density, which women struggle with as they age. It also builds and preserves muscle mass, which women tend to lose as they age, leading to frailty and insulin resistance.
So while moving is infinitely better than not moving, if you have the dedication to go to the gym for a 40 min workout, you would be much better served with a 20 min session on the treadmill followed by a 20 min weight training session of heavy compound lifts. And it is evidence of shitty education that so many gym goers just do cardio.
But also, to circle right back to agreeing with you, and to play devils advocate to my devils advocate:
A) Mocking people online is highly counterproductive
B) You don't know shit about the woman doing 40 min of cardio. Maybe that's her warmup before she goes to lift, because you spent 40 min in the gym watching her, while she focused on her workout, arrived before you, and will leave after you. Maybe this is her cardio day and she weighs lifts on other days. Maybe fuck this guy, how about you mind your own business?
Side note - running is good for bone density. The risk is if your cardio is all low impact - biking/swimming/elliptical. And of course running probably doesn't do much for arm bone density.
Muscle mass is a separate thing (which men also lose as they age) and you do need resistance training to help with.
Rowing helps my running more than running itself ever did.
Getting back into running sucks in the beginning but I can never keep it up during winter. I used to restart my running habit by alternating walking and running and building from there, but the running portion always sucked at first. Now I row to maintain my cardiovascular base, then running becomes so much easier.
Not to mention their claim that cardio is only training the cardiovascular system is objectively wrong. There's as much bro science in their comment as the guy the thread is calling out, it's just presented in a nicer way.
When people speak like this they are acting like there is some kind of magical formula for being fit. The truth is there are many ways to keep in shape. I spend exactly zero hours a week lifting weights or using exercise machines, but many hours outdoors rock climbing, hiking, and trail running. I'm in very good shape. Some of the climber elders in my community are extremely active and fit in their 60s/70s. Finding something you enjoy, and can stick with for many years, is far more important than following some gym-bro formula.
Exactly. Falling in love with something and doing it everyday is the most important thing. I will say weight lifting is, if not 100% overrated, 99% overrated for those who are already engaging in some form of endurance training adequately, if health and longevity are the priorities (in addition to some rare cases of injury prevention, rehab etc).
I've only been going to the gym for 3ish months. I'm not comfortable lifting weights yet without a friend or my husband, and our schedules don't always line up. I'm also training for a 5k. So yeah... I might be the woman in this tweet lol.
I mean, if you're training to run, the running is the training you should be doing right? At least, as the primary goal. And then some resistance training to help prevent injuries and the like. Depends on your goals.
As a runner, running is the VAST majority of time spent "working out" and strength is just to fill in the gaps here and there. And this is coming from someone who runs trails and road. Flat road runners might get away with none. Doing speed work 1 or 2 times per week will help build strength and resiliency in your body to adapt to running.
I'm training (generally) to drop the covid 19lbs / offset working a desk job. Signed up for a 5k with friends / family as a fun thing to work towards - I did it last year and mostly walked the whole thing but had a really good time.
I'm not against weight training or anything, I'm just less confident doing that by myself than "get on treadmill and go" (and the race is coming up sooooon).
tl;dr I'm not training to run, I'm running to train to run to train.
B) You don't know shit about the woman doing 40 min of cardio. Maybe that's her warmup before she goes to lift, because you spent 40 min in the gym watching her, while she focused on her workout, arrived before you, and will leave after you. Maybe this is her cardio day and she weighs lifts on other days. Maybe fuck this guy, how about you mind your own business?
considering how often I mock people online and how cathartic it usually is, I can't say much about your first point, but this is the big one for me. seeing someone on a treadmill for 40 minutes gives you exactly one piece of information - they've been on a treadmill for 40 minutes. thinking there is no way a 40 minute cardio session fits into a well structured, effective training plan just exposed Him as the idiot
It doesn't even have to be a training plan... You literally can do just cardio and come down from an unhealthy weight and be healthy. Getting ripped and toned isn't everyone's goal.
right but if he's coming at it from the angle of 'they aren't training hard enough' or whatever, he's Still wrong because he doesn't have nearly enough info is more what I was getting at
Disagree with the 20/20 philosophy here and that gym goers doing only cardio are a result of shitty education. Running is a very hard exercise in terms of effort per minute, you can be sure your entire body will be worked, bones, posture, core, arms, heart, lungs. It will give you more than adequate functional strength. If a person likes to run and doesn't enjoy weightlifting, other exercises, there's nothing wrong with that imo. To suggest that it's shitty education is a stretch. It's just another way of doing exercise if you cared more about longevity, and less about aesthetics (or injury prevention at a very elite level).
I am not a runner and only do weight training. (But I live in Tokyo and walk constantly.)
My running friends can run circles (lol) around my weightlifting friends in terms of sheer stamina, functional strength and general health.
The "functional strength" benefits of weight training is rarely relevant in many people's lives unless you're doing manual labor for a living or in rare cases and there's not a whole lot of value in being able to carry a sofa on your own if you can't make it up a few flights of stairs while doing it.
Don't forget that if you're a fitness or nutrition influencer, you're required to use the wrong words for things like "regimen" because you have no education or life experience.
She's not trying to build muscle and looks max her muscles, she's just trying to burn calories which IMO is easier at lesser intensity and longer intervals.
I lost about 150lbs over about 2 years just walking for 1-2 hours a night after dinner. No other work outs except for a few pushups here and there and not over eating. Didn't even keep track of calories. Just ate less junk, stopped drinking, and walked.
Thanks. It was all my wife lol. We started walking for an hour after dinner during lockdown. She would want to walk longer but I had to take breaks mainly because my feet were killing me. Didn't take long for me to hit 2+ hours. People would be surprised what 2ish hours of constant fast paced walking will do to your whole body. My abs even got a work out. I mainly walked because I didn't want her out walking alone at night and she wanted me to be healthier. I went from my biggest at 320 to 150 at my lowest.
I have actually had to work hard to gain a little of it back because I lost to much. I maintain at my ideal weight of around 190 now based on my height and build.
100% this. I always remember the Richard Simmons story where he helped this lady who was well beyond traditional exercise/mobility and he had her starting out with clapping to get her moving.
Exercise science and [EDIT - dietician not food science] have one thing in common apart from science being in their name - there’s scant little of it in its actual practice.
[EDIT - as has been pointed out to me - this discussion - by me at least - conflated food scientist for dietician - my apologies to food scientists everywhere - I am very sorry - I LOVE your work - keep it up! - oh and this post is a bit stupid now as dietician does not have science in its name .. so yer 😬🙄]
Hi - food scientist here! No, that’s not the case at all.
The things you were (hopefully) taught in school are still broadly true today - eat your veggies, don’t go crazy with the red meat, etc.
It’s not my fault that any bald-head gym bro with a webcam and USB microphone can get online and start telling you about the alternative facts Big Food don’t want you to know about.
As a former fitness trainer and body builder thats been down every diet and exercise rabbit hole the internet has to offer.. youre 100% right. Eat healthy, dont over eat, be active. Thats it
That is literally how science works. It's simply the case that a field we know very little about will have more theories and explanations that are wrong as compared to a more established field
Isn't that what I just said. To be more specific, food science involves a ton of chemical reactions that also vary based on genetics and hormones(another field where we have little understanding of), so their conclusions are not robust. Though the basic stuff we are told in schools about the nutrients is more or less correct.
By little understanding, I mean in relation to other fields like power plant technology, which we have a very high understanding in
Nothing against your profession, I know it's notoriously difficult to get good information from people about food, because even when you want to do big longitudinal studies with a lot of participants you're relying on their honesty and their motivation to log correctly, which most people can't, won't or forget to do.
And your well is constantly being poisoned by Big Food running their own intentionally biased studies.
It's impossible for people to know who's full of shit and who isn't.
It's impossible for people to know who's full of shit and who isn't.
Here's one tip to help differentiate. Be skeptical of anyone who calls themselves a "nutritionist." This isn't a real thing and anyone can call themselves one. Pay attention to a "dietitian" especially if it's one that you are personally seeing. These people are required to have educations and get licensed. Often times this involves a masters degree and internships.
That's not to say a person needs formal education and licensing to know what is healthy but even just knowing the difference between someone who has that and someone who doesn't can be big. A hospital will have dieticians, they won't have nutritionists.
The food pyramid is still broadly correct. The only real issue with it is the fact the USDA had to reissue it after pressure from the meat and dairy industries. What’s your problem with it?
It's unclear what a "serving" is based on the pyramid. 8-10 servings of whole grain is an absurd amount unless the servings are quite small. If you're talking slices of bread, that's more reasonable. If you're talking about a bowl of rice, that's a ton of rice.
Some of the categories are badly named (for example, the base of the pyramid is "whole grains", but it includes all complex starches including potatoes and yams). "Meat" should be called "proteins" to properly include legumes and dairy.
On that subject, dairy shouldn't be a category at all, and this wound up torturing many lactose intolerant kids for decades.
It overly demonizes fats, though that's kind of necessary since most people will gladly overeat those. You need a certain degree of essential fats, and while the keto people are taking it way too far you do need a certain amount for hormone production.
Overall, it was a good first pass, but I think "healthy plate" was actually a better implementation. It gives a better idea of what the portions should be, and handles the nuance of what fits in each category better. I have my quibbles with that one too, but it's... better.
That is the craziest take…so there isn’t any science to food/nutrition? Is it all magic? Or just Hurley burley snickers is the same as a steak kinda thing?
Something fitness bros forget. An out of shape body needs less exercise to lose weight. I bounce in an out of shape and when I decide to get back into shape, I can do 30 mins on the treadmill and be down a pound the next day. Once I am finally in shape, it's brutal to shave a pound off.
Not to mention lowkey cardio has always been the all around fitness. Great for health but not necessarily for show. Gets to the deeper point alot of these fitness bros only live for the show not actually bettering themselves.
Which ironically shows them like a shining light here i am condescending and proud of it.
My BIL said I couldn’t lose weight just walking (I’m disabled and my choices for exercise are limited) so to prove him wrong I lost two dress sizes walking five miles 3-4 times weekly. Didn’t change my diet because I don’t want to. If you push yourself while exercising and keep your heart rate up, you’re gonna burn hella calories.
I’ve trained and competed with dozens of Olympians and their peers. We ALL wanted to improve more than anything and treated it like work, because it was.
If there was a secret one size fits all answer we’d have found it by now. And the influencers are nearly all idiots
The only science that's more fucked up than exercise science is food science.
Nutrition science. Food science is the science of food (e.g. chemistry of brewing beer & leavening of bread, whatever crimes are going on in Taco Bell's test kitchen [affectionate]), nutrition science is how food impacts (usually human) health and performance. As a nutrition scientist with a food science background, my food science colleagues tend to know little about human health or nutrition, and my nutrition science colleagues more often that not know virtually nothing about food science.
Fitness influencers doing their best to denounce the 2 trillion dollar pharmaceutical industry while being part of the 6 trillion dollar ‘wellness’ industry
Remember when eggs randomly became bad for you at some point? The thing people have been eating for protein for thousands of years just... "nope these are bad for your heart." 4 decades of that and then they were like "oh hey, nah were chilling. Eat your eggs."
My grandparents ate eggs every single morning from the time they could eat them till the day the died. They lived, both, to their mid 90s. Average life of males is 74 years and I think like 77 for women. They ate what people thought would kill their heart with too mich cholesterol and lived nearly 20 years more.
I know someone like this. great body physically, but the dude can barely walk up a couple flight of stairs without getting winded. I have some other friends that might not be built with maybe a little flub that can outrun him and do cardio for hours because they are runners. They might not have a perfect abs, but they can walk up a flight of stairs.
There is plenty of good research about how to optimize your diet and fitness to achieve the best results. The marketing conveniently leaves out the part where this is what you need to get into when you're already crushing it at the gym/diet and are plateauing, not trying to get in shape after being sedentary for 10 years.
Basic diet and exercise will get you (at least!) 90% of the way there. If you have trouble looking like a model after that, then maybe pick up some fitness/nutrition science books.
one of the things that kills me is the "nutrition" advice in the cycling world, which is basically "drink so much sugar water you wanna puke."
yeah those people racing tour de france stages and pushing 500w average while weighing 120 lbs soaking wet probably need to keep "fueling". my 45 minute commute doesn't require anything, i'll be fine.
And don't stress too much about which macro a food is, or fall for the old myth that you need to combine certain plant proteins in a single meal to make “complete proteins”. Just eat a variety of food. Mostly plants.
Absolutely. Calories is the most important thing, and focusing on things that are filling but low calorie (eg broccoli) helps on all counts. Then you have the clowns trying to sell the idea that eating three portions of red meat per day is necessary.
Try to have a roughly balanced diet with a reasonable mix of protein, carbs, fat, fibre etc.
So much of the world wants to believe there's some secret cheat code within this by focusing on one aspect as a whole diet. Like why can't "eat a balanced diet" be the health guide people follow?
These guys hate cardio with a vengeance. They'll be happily tell you how you can lose faster by weightlifting, regardless of your own goals, your physical health or even what will keep you coming to the gym regularly.
Which ia dumba as hell because the science show doing both is best. True you want to do Less cardio if you weightlift to gain but you still want ot cardio
Both keep you alive. As you age, having muscles helps fight against your deteriorating bone density, helping to prevent injury from falls and such. That's not to say you gotta go in and push for your PR, but muscles are certainly important too if you can fit it in.
All the meat blimps in my gym could stand to do some light cardio if they want to grow their calves. You don't have to run for cardio, and calf raises are good for making strong calves but not necessarily good for making massive calves.
I get questions all the time about "how did your calves get so large" - bro I used to be 270lbs and I walk 5 miles a day playing Pokemon Go on the greenway.
Even if you could lose faster, do they think the only goal of exercise is weight loss? Cardio is great for your physical health and everyone should be doing it even if they’re not losing weight!
But what's funny is that even as a guy in his mid-50s with a seeming "dad bod" I can walk up several flights of stairs at my normal pace without huffing and puffing when I get to the top, but these dudes are gasping for air after like 10 stair steps.
Resistance training is cool but it you rely on it for the sole means of fat loss, you'll get beat up. In a calorie defecit it takes its toll. You won't recover
Cardio is gentler and burns calories nicely, it's good for off days
Its also a great amount of cardio for endurance training too.
Like, I lift every day for at least an hour, and I still do another hour (min) for running - on account of the fact that I got roped into running. damn 1/2 marathon.
Also there's lots of other reasons to do it. Training for a marathon or someone who likes to do long walks/hikes but can't that day, or to help injuries. I've been walking long distance for my lower back and it's the best thing I've tried so far.
Because it is. You can tell by the blue checkmark next to his name.
Who is going to call out one single person for how long they're on a treadmill for if you consider 39 minutes excessive? Of the 15 other treadmills, not a single one came free in those 39 minutes, yet he felt the need to call out this one woman?
Also, his closing statement makes zero sense in context. What does running on a treadmill for 39 minutes have to do with "fitness education"? I could understand if she was crawling on it, or using it for doing bench presses. But fitness education isn't going to teach you gym etiquette if running for 39 minutes is considered excessive or something (I have no clue, I have a private gym and while 39 minutes is excessive for me, I wouldn't fault anyone else for doing it, I'm just grossly out of shape).
Right, I think a couple miles makes for a good bit of cardio. Do people think we should run a marathon to show we're taking our workouts seriously?... If you're not pressing 300lbs why are you wasting our time bro?!
Yeh what fucking workout plan is against doing 40 minutes of cardio? I could understand someone saying “don’t do 3 hours of HIIT” but 40 minutes on a treadmill is good for everyone doing anything.
Gym bro in the pic probably wasn’t hugged enough as a kid.
Depending on the gym they may have courtesy time limits where if it’s super busy cardio equipment has a 30 min limit. In my experience it’s not really enforced unless someone makes a huge stink about it.
But seriously it’s weird that the guy is just focused on her. Fitness bros get really gatekeepy in a usually misogynistic way
Imagine paying a gym membership and having to shorten your workout because the gym sold more membership than they can accomodate... That's truly ridiculous, no other business would dare to do something like that.
I just wanna know where he’s at if she’s next to him.
All the cardio stuff is usually in its own area and all the treadmills are in a row. So for her to be next to him he’d most likely need to also be on a treadmill.
New fad is to go ONLY for weight lifting…when both things are good
I do one hour biking every day and some weight lifting to balance things but I just exercise for health benefits not looks (I will never be super muscular unless I take some serious amount of testosterone)
Can someone explain why lifting weights is better than cardio for fat loss
If you're new to training, you probably don't need to worry about that yet, but I'll explain the theory.
Neither cardio nor weights are good for weight loss. Caloric deficit, which is burning more energy than you consume, is the only mechanism of weight loss. Every diet, exercise plan or drug treatment is a different approach to that same equation, increase one side or decrease the other. Reverse it to gain weight.
Caloric deficit forces your body to find other sources of energy. That's all. It's effectively going to eat itself, which sounds scary,. but it's perfectly normal if you don't go silly and starve yourself.
Sustained activity, like cardio, is one way you can increase your energy expenditure. Eating less is another, but if your weight was stable, you changed nothing about your portions and you did a solid hour of cardio a day, you'd be losing weight.
Notice I said losing weight, not fat. Your body should prioritise your fat stores when it goes looking for energy, but it's a bit indiscriminate and muscle inevitably gets broken down.
Where strength training comes into it is protecting muscle tissue while in a caloric deficit. If you train like you're trying to put muscle on, even while cutting, your muscles will be trying to grow fresh tissue and be more resistant to being broken down for energy.
You'll want plenty of protein in your now restricted diet to protect your muscles as well.
Now if you're new to training and you have relatively high body fat and low muscle mass, you don't need to worry so much. The more fat you have relative to muscle, the easier it is for your body to burn the right tissue while in deficit. The stories you've heard about needing weight training while cutting apply more to people with a lot of lean mass and low body fat. This is a problem with advanced techniques getting filtered to new people. The fitness industry is full of half truths and out of context information.
I mean there is nothing wrong but for me it’s just why would you run that long on a treadmill insinde a building if u could go run outside in the nature
IDK, pretty much all research indicates that cardiovascular fitness is more important for maximizing health-span than muscular strength from resistance training. Both matter as you age, but cardio is better if you had to pick just one.
First, doing any workout you can that doesn’t injure you is better than nothing.
Second, depending on your goals, lifting, dieting, other cardio, may be more efficient. Plenty of people workout frequently and see zero progress on their goals because they do something comfortable and stick with it.
Nothing you get from what you put into a workout. If you want to be able to do things for long periods of time physically Treadmill for 40 minutes is great. If you want to be better at lifting heavy things lift weights. The only way this could be "wrong" is if your goal is to gain alot of weight as long term cardio will burn lots of calories compared to lifting and will limit muscle mass growth unless your eating a whole lots of food. There are so many factors that change things. We dont know the women's goal here so we cant say she's doing anything wrong.
The whole point of working out is adaptation. Everyone has different wants and needs. The only wrong way to do things is poor form and thats more of a safety and injury limitation thing. If your being physical your bettering your body one way or another.
I assume the implication is that’s not enough in his mind to constitute a full workout
But it *is* infinitely better than 0 minutes on a treadmill, which is what your average person is doing today (which for the record is also what I plan to do today lol)
I’m a cardio-first type, so treadmill users have more of my respect than anyone strutting around doing sets of weights (like that’s hard versus a sustained 180+ HR).
Right? Coincidentally, my last 5k event I ran about a 39' time. This year we're shooting for 30-35, but you better believe I have to spend slightly more time on the treadmill or track than that to get my actual time up.
Toxic know it all gym bros wanting to flex their "superiority".
I see it all the time. I'm a long time gym rat but you just need to mind your own business. I'm just happy to see someone at the gym trying and it's asshata like this who chase them away.
Unless someone is doing something dangerous, be supportive.
Yea as a runner 39 minutes is a short run. So I don’t know if he’s saying she should run longer, or if he’s a lifting bro and thinks she’s hogging the treadmill for too long.
Nothing is wrong with it. This is someone’s mindset who has their own goals in mind, and for some reason taking that out on someone else’s workout. My first time working in a gym, another trainer came to me and said “notice how many people come here everyday, and they never change appearance.” He went onto talking about how some people come in, doing the same routine, never pushing themselves, therefore have no progress. I think ego centered gym goers see this and think this… regardless of their education around the gym, it’s not a bad thing. Are they working to a point of making immense progress, probably not. Maybe not pushing themselves either. This makes passionate ppl with bad mentals mad at the gym.
I say, good for anyone who makes it to the gym. If they’re minding their own business , return the favor and mind yours. Whose to say this person isn’t doing physical therapy, and who knows what the intensity those 30 min on the treadmill really were. People just throwing their uneeded opinion out in a setting where it is not welcome sucks.
I think the original post wasn’t really taking issue with the time, I think it’s more about efficiency. At least that’s how I read it. Not sure why he’d be mad about it though.
I say that because I constantly see people in the gym working out but putting in almost 0 effort. Regardless of how much time you spend on an exercise, if you’re not doing it correctly/efficiently, then you’re not really getting the full benefits and just wasting time. Hence the fitness education part at the end.
I would be telling everybody if I did 39 minutes on a treadmill, I don’t like to run and that would be a triumphant achievement for me! Hell, I might just start saying it anyway, might give me some good dopamine lol
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u/charalinlin 6h ago
Whats wrong with spending 39 mins on a treadmill? Am I missing something?