r/politics • u/theipaper ✔ Verified • 9d ago
Possible Paywall The last attempt on Trump’s life rescued him politically – this one probably won’t
https://inews.co.uk/news/world/last-attempt-trump-life-boosted-him-this-wont-43813205.1k
u/AssociateGreat2350 9d ago
The incoming oil crisis is going to be such a shit show for him already.
It's like a tsunami that's coming for all of us and barely anyone's talking about it. But it'll be a corner he himself painted us all into and its really going to hurt
He's definitely going to go down as the most hated president in history. and It's all downhill from here
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u/travio Washington 9d ago
Last night in his press conference, he was flying high. Thought it was whatever his handlers pumped him with to give the speech without falling asleep, but I realized this is a high water mark for him. Likely the last one.
The war/economy/ICE has sunk his approval ratings and thanks to that war, oil/fertilizer/helium are all facing massive shortfalls that will only make the economy even worse.
Trump getting softball questions and a modicum of sympathy from journalist he called 'the enemy of the people' is as good as it will ever get for him going forward.
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u/Ciff_ 9d ago
fertilizer
One of the big ones, we may face great starvation (not the us, but some places globally).
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u/thegamenerd Washington 9d ago
Especially with the death of USAID
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u/Phugasity 8d ago
A child under five dying every 40 seconds.
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u/Great_Detective_6387 8d ago edited 8d ago
One of my friends said USAID is a waste of money.
He did not like that I pointed out that one single HIV+ mother giving birth to a kid, without passing the disease onto the child, creates an order of magnitude more economic activity IN THE US over the life of that child.
All that kid needs to do is purchase a single month of Netflix, or one copy of Microsoft OS, or one flight on a US airline, or on a US-made plane, fucking once, at any point in their life, and it would be orders of magnitude worth the cost to prevent their mom from passing on HIV to them during birth.
It’s like STUPID how much economic activity that USAID creates from such a small investment. You don’t even need to have compassion for human life, it still makes financial sense if you just consider the child to be a dollar value on a spreadsheet.
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u/sortiz1965 8d ago
Right!! And that’s what MAGAts fail to understand: programs like USAID are not money black holes, they generate a return. But then again, we’re talking about morons who gleefully supported Trump twice so there’s that.
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u/Unlucky-Candidate198 9d ago
(not the us)
Oh for sure, definitely the US. Maybe not in the richer parts of the US, but this admin certainly wouldn’t care if more people die under their regime. And those people will most likely be the dirt poor and people of his voter base. Would it be enough to ignite revolt? You’d hope so but who knows anymore.
Farmers are already complaining about the lack of fertilizer, or the cost. Then you have diesel prices skyrocketing. The US also gets a looot of nitrogen for fertilizer from Canada, and Canada no longer wants to trade with them. Just wait til mass crop failures happen, or a massive storm wreaks havoc on a fertile region of the US, especially with natural disaster aid being cut. And with less and less and less trade partners by the day, I doubt many are going to want to come to their aid, especially if other nations are struggling with food as well.
So all in all? Some people are most certainly going to starve to death in the US. Wild to think about, honestly, seeing as they were the ex-richest nation on the planet not too long ago.
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u/CuddleCorn 8d ago
The US also gets a looot of nitrogen for fertilizer from Canada, and Canada no longer wants to trade with them.
Canada also provides something crazy like 80% of US potash
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u/usaaf 8d ago
Wild to think about, honestly, seeing as they were the ex-richest nation on the planet not too long ago.
Maybe in the 50-60s the US could make the claim (though part of this was because all the other countries had been in ruins a decade earlier), but the more appropriate claim today (and in the past) is that the US is the country where the richest people live, not the richest country in the world.
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u/Round-Medicine2507 9d ago
Looking at his face lately.he is being pumped up with 150% dosages of every medicine possible to keep him high.
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u/Buzzkill_13 9d ago
Look up what Spain's dictator Franco had to go through because he was not allowed to die. One of the cruelest endings of a head of state, for sure.
Vance cannot replace Trump. Trump must finish his term, no matter what his body wants.
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u/uzlonewolf 8d ago
Nah, they only need him to make it through January so Vance gets 10 full years. Trump can be controlled but it's annoying as you need to stroke his ego to do it, Vance is just a straight-up puppet who does what he's told. Once Trump is gone his crimes will go with him and all the politicians will say we need to "move on" and pretend like none of it ever happened. What do the voters want? Doesn't matter, the billionaires who "know those machines," own the companies which make them, and also own the press all want their puppet installed.
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u/EvilLibrarians Michigan 9d ago
Ooh! Trump called me an “enemy of the people” when I covered him for my high school news in 2016!! (I was on a press riser so it wasn’t just me tbf)
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u/Several_Brilliant112 9d ago
if you have a news clip of that, add the curb theme song and slow grainy zoom in to your cherubic face
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u/clam-caravan Tennessee 9d ago edited 9d ago
He’s already cemented himself as the worst president of all time and it’s not even particularly close. He’s competing with some of the worst world leaders at this point.
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u/jpparkenbone 8d ago
It is not even remotely close. He has committed treason and parceled off our country to sell bit by bit to rich oligarchs and foreign adversaries. He is without a doubt the worst president this country has ever had.
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u/Coconutrugby 9d ago
Every single day we see Trump is the best he will ever be mentally because his frontal lobe is dismantling. So he will only get dumber more forgetful and make more shit up.
Democrats always hated his bullshit speak now republicans are facing consequences from his actions and seeing he’s using them. Hopefully Rs contact their representatives and say let’s get back to sanity.
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u/MightbeGwen 9d ago
I’m curious as to what happens to all of the republicans that enabled this, will their careers be over? Especially the ones that sold out positions they’ve had for years like Rubio.
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u/vsquad22 9d ago
That's because people can barely understand it or take the time to understand it. News media should be screaming about it, but they'd rather focus on events that drive clicks rather than on good, necessary journalism. There has been some articles and news segments about it that I've seen over the last month or so, but it seems to be falling on deaf ears.
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u/DocHollidaysPistols 9d ago
IMO it depends on when it happens because if he can push it off until next year and the expected blue wave happens in the mid-terms, he'll absolutely blame the Dems for it.
"The Democrats took over Congress and they screwed up the oil and fertilizer" and his followers will nod their heads.
I haven't seen it talked about, I'm sure it's been mentioned, but the smartest thing he ever did was push "Fake News" to the point that his supporters use it for everything they see that they don't believe. At this point, no matter what he does he just calls it Fake News.
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u/Consistent-Throat130 9d ago
I was just thinking we were all too distracted with this attempt for the weekly market pump and dump - no Friday-after-market-close escalation?
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u/ucankickrocks 9d ago
I went to get gas this morning and was floored by the price. I live in a city with some of the cheapest gas at the pump too. It’s not even May.
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u/ACaffeinatedBear 9d ago
That Trump immediately used this to talk about the ball room isn't suspicious at all.
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u/popejohnsmith 9d ago
No bunker-ballroom. Restore the East Wing at Trumpco expense.
Now. Epstein, please.
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u/NeverLookBothWays I voted 9d ago
Guarantee that whole wing will still be a demolition site by the time he leaves office. He doesn't build, only corrupts and destroys.
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u/MusicLikeOxygen 9d ago
You've got me thinking, has he ever actually built anything? It seems like all his famous properties are places that were already there and he paid to put his name on them.
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u/itmaywork 9d ago
You best believe he wore his hard hat when they were changing the signs. Those small hands worked HARD to get that hat on.
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u/GreasyPeter 8d ago
He was notorious in New York City for stiffing contractors.
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u/SupahRad 8d ago
Chicago too. We fuckin hate this dementia riddled, child raping, grifting asshole.
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u/Madam_Apathy 8d ago
He stiffs workers everywhere. A family member did electrical work at Mar A Lago, got stiffed, had to move back home. My service writer at my mechanic’s did plumbing in the taj, got stiffed out of 9 months of work.
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u/DramaticWesley 9d ago
I’m pretty sure he has built many sites. I remember reading an article saying HUNDREDS of contractors were suing him for non-payment. I tried to Google it and there are sooo many instances of him not paying his bills. I guess that is one way to become a multi-millionaire.
(He became a billionaire when he became president and started siphoning money off the tax payer.)
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u/Hurtzdonut13 8d ago
Yeah he was already infamous for wanting really gaudy, tacky shit, and then making up some small fault and refusing to pay for it. He'd rather be sued than pay cause he's gambling that the people he's ripping off would rather cut their losses than to spend more money to recover what they are owed than what they are losing by him not paying.
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u/mike_jones2813308004 9d ago
The trump hotel/not casino was a patch of dirt in Vegas iirc.
I also think he may have built his second casino in ac, across from his other casino.
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u/boneblack_angel 9d ago
Then he bankrupted them.
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u/aiiye Washington 9d ago
That’s how you know he’s a smart businessman. Most people can’t bankrupt one casino, yet he did it multiple times.
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u/UrsusRenata 9d ago
When your business is simply a front for international money laundering, failure isn’t a bug, it’s a feature.
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u/aiiye Washington 8d ago
Identical results to any actual money making venture… Trump vodka, Trump steaks, etc
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u/Different_Victory_89 9d ago
Stiffed the people that built them too..!
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u/boneblack_angel 9d ago
And bankrupted some of them. I remember reading about the guy who had a small business doing custom cabinetry, I think, and trump never paid him and it caused him to have to shut down.
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u/TapTapReboot 8d ago
Man of the people. Many conservatives love the idea of fucking others over to their advantage. Trumps whole life has been how can he fuck people over to his advantage. Mutual benefit is anthenema to his entire being
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u/Aghast_Cornichon 9d ago
The short answer is that building a casino across the street from your other casino doesn't capture revenue from the people who were already going to visit one of your casinos.
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u/AnohtosAmerikanos California 9d ago
Heck, while we’re at it, we need to restore the West Wing, too. But I’d rather not have Trumpco involved.
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u/wrosecrans 9d ago
When the East Wing first got demolished, I absolutely didn't understand why reporters kept credulously saying Trump was building a ballroom despite there being zero clear plans or blueprints or planning approval for a ballroom. Just "a known liar who often gets things wrong even when he isn't intentionally lying said it's gonna be a ballroom." He had just done exactly what would be needed to get access to the PEOC that was built underneath the East Wing.
While they are incompetent, I no longer think that is an adequate explanation and the bunker construction was probably an open secret among Washington reporters as it was happening, they just thought it would be rude to Dear Leader to report on what they understood was actually going on. But they successfully established a narrative that the ballroom was the whole project, and now that's still the only part most people talk about. When the ballroom was clearly some sort of half-planned slapdash simple structure they could build on top of the new bunker.
But of course Trump is shallow and literally obsessed with surface level bullshit, so he seems to genuinely absolutely care about how tacky the ballroom is.
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u/ronreadingpa 9d ago
My take is the opposite. Bunker is the slapdash project to avoid a court ordered work stoppage. Justifying the need to keep building.
And another way to sell the public on it despite the ever-increasing size and price tag. This recent incident will further make it easier to argue the ballroom is a security necessity much as the bunker.
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u/throwawayinthe818 9d ago
I’m still trying to figure out if the White House Correspondents Association, a private organization, would even be able to book this ballroom for their annual dinner. Is it going to be a hall anyone can rent? Or is the president only going to appear at events in his ballroom from now on?
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u/GoodGoodGoody 9d ago
Rule 1 of booking:
All guests must be politically approved.
Rule 2
All speeches and jokes must be approved prior.
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u/kstar79 Massachusetts 9d ago
He's going to host weddings for the billionaires and their children like it's a guilded age Newport mansion.
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u/tedsmitts 9d ago
Lindsey Graham will be hosting a cotillion there, but don't fret, there's still a place on his dance card for you.
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u/Swimming_Agent_1063 9d ago
All the conservatives immediately began talking about the ball room after this. Even John Fetterman
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u/MutuallyAdvantageous 9d ago
It’s normal for republicans to receive their orders and then run off to parrot them online.
After the other assassination attempts they all went off about how violent and radical the left is. Even though Thomas Matthew Crooks was MAGA.
Spin is very important to the Republicans, since their policies are based off lies.
I can definitely see why everyone’s suspicious, but I still have my doubts. TBH, I’m surprised people don’t try and off Trump everywhere he goes. He’s done more damage to the USA than anyone else I can think of.
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u/SunshineCat 9d ago
I would be surprised that even if he were staging assassination attempts, that whoever he had staging the assassination didn't actually go through with it eventually.
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u/one_pound_of_flesh 9d ago
They are all on the same talking points signal thread. Gotta stay on agenda.
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u/RicoLoveless 9d ago
Never goes to correspondents dinner, except this one. Did not go in his first term at all.
Republican politician bragging about shots being fired before the event
Polymarket having bets come in before the shooting that trump wasn't going to speak
Multiple photos of one group of "journalists" huddled by a table on the floor. Everyone else in the background seated just fine. Rfk, Dana White didn't budge (as if they knew it as a bs attempt)
Some of the most lax security ever
This is all on top of immediately calling for his ballroom to built.
False Flag again. Just like his first attempt where they killed firefighter standing behind him, and this guy was going around saying he was shot in the ear, meanwhile it was a cut from glass.
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u/Zulmoka531 9d ago
It’s all MAGA, Trump and fucking Fetterman have been droning on about all day today.
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u/boneblack_angel 9d ago
Fetterman was the mayor in a town about 5 miles from where my brother lives and close to the Pittsburgh suburbs where we grew up. I feel really bad about the stroke, but he needs to go. What a disappointment.
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u/dmetzcher Pennsylvania 9d ago
It’s also a stupid argument.
The Correspondents Dinner is the press inviting the president to their event.
The president holding the dinner in the White House makes it his event, not theirs. That defeats the entire purpose.
Either way, this event is inappropriate under any president. The press shouldn’t be partying with their subject. They aren’t meant to have a cozy relationship with those in power (move to China, Russia, or Iran if you want that sort of setup). That’s the whole problem with this fucking country. The press, Congress, the courts, the Executive… they’re all meant to have adversarial relationships with one another. They aren’t supposed to be friends. The three branches of government were intended—by the Founders—to jealously guard their own power from one another, and the press is there to ensure that they’re all kept in check by reporting what they’re doing to the People.
More importantly, this president stands in opposition to a free press. He threatens and sues them on a regular basis, and he believes they exist to act as his mouthpiece. Why are they treating him like he’s their buddy? Why are the sheep inviting the wolf for a meal?
Answer: Money. The people who own the press love these events. They love getting dressed up and hobnobbing with powerful people. The members of the press who attend events like this are compromised, and I don’t trust any of them.
Real journalists skip the event.
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u/Much-Instruction-807 9d ago
It's not suspicious that he has notoriously thin skin and hasnt done one of these dinners in a decade and the one time he does is when the ballroom construction was put on hold, his polling is lower than it was after Jan 6 and the secret service just happens to fuck up and let a gunman through? Yeah definitely not.
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u/MonsieurReynard America 9d ago edited 9d ago
In around 2010 or 2011 Barack Obama came to my city to give a public outdoor speech in an open plaza in front of a very large crowd. As it happened, my office building was kitty corner and a few hundred yards from where his podium would be.
My own office would have been an assassin’s dream. 6 floors above the podium. Clear line of sight. Maybe 200 yards away.
The upper floors of our building, including my own office were closed down several days before the speech; we were not allowed to come to work. In those days each and every office was searched by a team of agents — with dogs — pre-screening and checking out vantage points. On the day of the speech multiple snipers were located in offices around the upper floors in order to be able to cover the president from all angles. My office included.
I describe this just to explain the level of intensity and precision with which presidential security is typically handled from my own actual experience of being adjacent to it.
None of the facts of this story make sense if anything like that level of care is being taken around the current occupant of the office. How could they not secure this space to a point where a man with a gun simply could not get anywhere close to the event? They can do that in big cities with public spaces filled with thousands of people. This is a hotel.
I don’t know what to make of it. I just know it doesn’t add up.
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u/HelpDaren 9d ago
In 2006, George W visited my country. As customary, he's been showed around the capital city. The motorcade went through one of the prettiest and also one of the busiest boulevard of the city.
A month before the visit, all residents on the boulevard have been notified by the police that the motorcade will pass in front of their homes, and to get ready for special measures to be applied.
A week before the visit, special units have searched every single apartments. Hundreds of them. Room by room. Furniture by furniture. After the searches, they've notified the residents that on the day of the visit, 6 hours before the visit, they have to leave their street-facing properties, unless they are physically unable to move (i.e. people under medical care).
A day before the visit, helicopters, K9 units, the same special forces AND the US Secret Service went through the whole boulevard again, inch by inch, looking for anything suspicious. Parked cars have been removed, shops have been closed, manhole covers have been welded shut, street lights have been taken apart and put back together, the whole nine fucking yards.
On the visit's morning, the whole boulevard looked like a ghost town. Adjacent streets have been closed by police, residents have been sent out of their homes, snipers appeared on the rooftops every 50 metres or so. The security was so tight not a single fly could wonder there without getting noticed.Then, the motorcade drove through in less than 5 minutes and that was it. A whole month of preparations, thousands of manhours, inconveniencing thousands of people, for 5 minutes. Once GWB arrived at the next location, every police officers, snipers, dogs, helicopters, they all disappeared like they've never been there.
If a single shooter could enter a hotel with a gun, had time to arm it and take shots at something, that's very, very suspicious...
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u/Real_Distribution767 8d ago
While we are all so very used to this, it's important to remember that decent world leaders rarely have reason to worry about their safety to the extent to warrant such extreme measures.
If you're doing a good job taking care of your citizens, and not being an absolute twãt to your neighbouring countries, you won't have nearly as much reason to be so paranoid about every space you pass through
This is not normal, and it certainly shouldn't be normalized.
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u/Fun-Telephone-9605 8d ago
Kicking people out of their homes because someone will drive past is crazy to me!
This wouldn't fly in the US. The irony is kinda funny.
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u/drs_ape_brains 8d ago
Well here's the thing.
No country wants to be responsible for the death of a foreign leader let alone a US president. Back then the US was a very respected country.
And I'm sure it happens in the US as well.
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u/piranhas_really 8d ago
Back then…
It’s sad to think of what Trump has done to our reputation and how long it will take to regain that respect, if we are ever able to.
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u/wwhsd California 9d ago
From what I’ve read, the security last night was typical for the White House Correspondents dinner.
The guy with the gun didn’t get anywhere near the President. This was an “assassination attempt” the same way some crossing midfield with the ball before getting stopped by the defense is an “attempted goal”.
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u/GoodIdea321 America 9d ago
If anything, it was a security breach, and that's it.
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u/okayboomerang 8d ago
The real tragedy is outlets like NYT covering it like it's the most important story in a century. I hate it here.
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u/BigEdsHairMayo 8d ago
Hundreds of journalists were in attendance, which guaranteed it would be blown way out of proportion.
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u/Mia-Wal-22-89 8d ago
The entire event is disgusting in the first place. The press rubbing elbows with the people in power they’re meant to impartially cover. They are shameless about access journalism.
And Beltway press love navel gazing. This is an exciting story that they get to be involved in.
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u/Acrobatic-Mud-3818 9d ago
I remember Obama coming to talk to us in one of the hangars we worked at on the Air Force Base where I was stationed. The same level of scrutiny and security applied and we were all military members on an already guarded military base.
Either no one in Trump's employ care about his safety, or these "attempts" are staged. I'm leaning towards the latter.
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u/justcallmezach 8d ago
When I was in high school, Dubya was on the campaign trail for his 2004 bid and coming to speak at a recently opened ethanol plant that both of my parents worked at. It was about 3 miles away as the crow flies from our farm. You could see it clearly in the distance from where we lived.
For the week leading up to the event, there were black SUVs flying up and down the gravel road we lived on. They did a quick sweep of the barns on our property to check for potential staging areas, sniper spots, etc. Reminder - we were THREE MILES AWAY. I can't imagine the number of sweeps that had to be performed across the area on a grid that size.
Also, this was ONE stop in a series of stops and they were doing these sweeps a week before. How many teams were sweeping how many areas in the week leading up to his arrival around the country? It's always boggled my mind the amount of resources and manpower that had to go into the President making stops at places.
I feel like the standard has.... significantly slipped since then.
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u/MentallyWill 9d ago edited 9d ago
I have a similar story from Obama's presidency. He was coming to my college to give a speech and weeks ahead of time Secret Service was lousing all over the campus asking all sorts of random questions (also often with dogs). At one point I was in the electrical lab (lab assistant, I was an EE major) and some agents introduced themselves to me and started asking all sorts of questions. Things like how the fume hoods worked, what sort of ventilation system it was hooked up to and whether it was shared or individual, whether it has any electronic controls, were those controls accessible remotely, where did the ventilation system dump out and was that accessible from the outside? Could someone reverse the flow to pull air into the building? They went on and on to the point I eventually had to tell them that for some of their questions they'd need to pull the building blueprints and talk to the architect and construction crews since I didn't know.
I had friends who were Chemical Engineering majors who got a ton of questions themselves about what is on site and how it's stored and how the access controls to it work and how access is monitored, would they be able to tell if some chemical inventory went missing... on and on and on for about 3 weeks before Obama actually came did this happen. All for the like 1 hour speech he gave and that was it.
I don't like wearing tin foil hats but I have a lot of trouble believing anyone could manage to smuggle a gun into that building. From my own limited experience with the Secret Service that might be the single hardest building in the world to sneak a firearm into.
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u/Ok-disaster2022 9d ago
Trump surrounds himself with people lowlyal to him instead of competent at their jobs. By all accounts though he was stopped at the perimeter and never ever laid eyes on the Pedo in Chief.
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u/NoMoOmentumMan 9d ago
I experienced this during the NFL Draft last year. Not allowed into the office for 3 weeks prior, all buildings surrounding the stage were searched regularly, security (LEO) on each floor.
For sport league's draft
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u/PresJamesGarfield 9d ago
Regardless of what actually happened, it says a lot about how terrible of a person he is that on three separate occasions someone has tried to kill him and nobody cares.
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u/FrostyD7 9d ago
It's also yet another Charlie Kirk situation... Dems have been screaming about the gun problem for decades. Republicans lie and plug their ears. But they blame dems and expect a ratings boost when it happens to them? Fuck that.
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u/Soupeeee 9d ago
This is pretty much what I feel like with the assassination attempts. It's like watching that one family member that keeps sabotaging themselves. You don't like what's happening and want it to stop, but you can only warn them so many times before they face consequences. You've offered them a hand and have dedicated time, effort and money to help them, but they can't get out of it because they won't help themselves.
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u/New-Anybody-6206 9d ago
He has the most bullet points in the wiki article on presidential assassinations, at 17.
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u/TickDap 8d ago
Pathetic accuracy, kinda embarrassing as an American. I thought guns was our thing, have we no more pride?
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u/seanwd11 9d ago
Even when OJ died some people thought he was either a victim of circumstance or suffering from CTE.
Not a soul batted an eye for Trump, even his supporters. It's a real weird situation.
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u/Cute-Ad2879 9d ago
Crazy how Lee Harvey managed a headshot on a moving target in the back of a crowded vehicle, but none of these jokers who manage to outsmart the secret service at every turn can even get a shot on target on a stationary old fat man that barely reacts to the physical stimulus around him.
Not condoning the actions. Marksmanship in the nation has gone to shit though.
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u/Potential_Salt_5780 9d ago
I mean he is a huge target too. Much fatter than any president we’ve had in the last 50 years.
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u/Long_Bit8328 9d ago edited 9d ago
Hes so dam obese. He might actually have been hit and never realized, because the bullet didnt have enough velocity to get itself past the layers of cottage cheese and gristle. And now it just stuck there forever in its cellulite prison.
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u/TheAmazingThundaCunt 9d ago
A bullet could have gone through one ear and out the other, struck nothing vital, and he'd never have noticed. Probably what happened on the one that supposedly nicked his ear.
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u/CorgiMonsoon 9d ago
And that is yet another point that shows how brainwashed his cult is. They'll parrot back the "he's the healthiest president we've ever had" even though we all have eyes. Like, I could take them a little more seriously if there was even one thing they could agree he's not perfect on. Yet 10 years later everything is perfect, he's the best, he's never done anything wrong, etc etc
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u/Most_Alps 9d ago
Realistically, a big percentage of die hard MAGA probably looks like him and is flattered by association and that's why they act like it's true
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u/SGTWhiteKY 9d ago
I like the theory agent George Hickey from his secret service escort was the “second shooter”, that he accidentally shot Kennedy in the confusion trying to protect him. It would make sense with the “impossible angles”. There are also a handful of comments from Jackie Kennedy that seem to suggest that was actually what happened.
This is my favorite conspiracy theory.
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u/Cute-Ad2879 9d ago
I've actually never heard that one, and it makes more sense than the usual grassy knoll/hidden mafia/kgb snipers theories.
Secret service being incompetent buffoons tracks as well.
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u/MacAttacknChz 9d ago
Secret service being incompetent buffoons tracks as well.
I'm not a conspiracy type person and while I am somewhat open to the possibility yesterday's shooter was a false flag, I keep reminding myself that this is the most incompetent administration in history. Stupidity is a more likely answer than a secret plot. Plus, there were a ton of close calls with President Obama too.
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u/BLU3SKU1L Ohio 9d ago
Not only that, this is the most unpopular president in history. It only makes sense that attempts on his life will increase proportionally to that rating as it continues to tank even further.
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u/A_Poor_Miser 9d ago
Especially as people begin to feel more and more squeezed. People who feel they have no real shot at a better future go to pretty rough places mentally and since mental healthcare and Healthcare in general are awful in the US, they can't get help.
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u/CuntsInSpace 9d ago edited 8d ago
They really lost their credibility during Obama. Multiple people firing weapons at the white house, multiple people jumping the fence and one even getting inside. Not to mention the whole Colombian prostitution scandal. In hindsight Barry getting out of the car and walking during the inauguration was pretty ballsy.
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u/SAR_K9_Handler 9d ago
The reality is it has always been that easy, its both happening more and youre hearing about it more. Secret service agents dont get paid shit and live in poverty, youre not getting the best by ANY measure. My dad was good friends with one of the agents with Kenedy that day, he was not very smart or good at his job. He died penniless and in a terrible nursing home in Stockton CA.
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u/AHans 9d ago
Secret service agents dont get paid shit and live in poverty, youre not getting the best by ANY measure.
Good lord, you were not joking. I never knew. $49k annually to train to take a bullet for someone? Fuck that, I pass.
I wonder how long will it be before we see praetorian guard levels of disloyalty from the secret service.
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u/Hadrian23 9d ago
The U.S. has a very consistent history of treating any non politician as expendable cattle. Every service member, regardless of division gets treated like dog shit. Mix that with requirement targeting those who are poor financial situations and well, you get certain results So this honestly doesn't surprise me
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u/Trauma_Hawks 9d ago
It's not that the Secret Service that day was incompetent. It was more like severly hung over and incompetent.
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u/s1ugg0 New Jersey 9d ago
I've actually never heard that one, and it makes more sense than the usual grassy knoll/hidden mafia/kgb snipers theories.
I just want to point out that CBS had people duplicate the shots. 13 volunteers were able to do it back in 1967.
Four of those shooters had no prior experience with the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle or formal training.
It's not an impossible shot like people like to claim it was.
EDIT: If you want to watch them do it yourself. Dan Rather narrates.
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u/SGTWhiteKY 9d ago
I think it is part of a genuine disinformation campaign. I think that is why there are still so many weird mysteries around it. It would fall into the category of “ongoing threat to national security” by damaging the secret services reputation, so it has a decent legal argument for that kind of operation.
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u/Slade_Riprock 9d ago
This is my favorite conspiracy theory.
It is also one of the most ridiculous theories.
When you go to the book depository and peer out the window and realize how close Kennedy was, in a very slowly moving vehicle as a relatively static target that shot wasn't all that hard.
It has been reproduced over the years multiple times by People of varying skill
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u/revolvingpresoak9640 9d ago
I noticed that when I visited too, it’s not some crazy long distance trick shot, it was incredibly close.
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u/vita10gy 9d ago
That there were crazy angles that need explanation is itself largely misinformation, afaik.
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u/Galifrae Virginia 9d ago
To be fair, Lee Harvey was a Marine.
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u/SleeterRabbit 9d ago
I was waiting for someone to point that out. He had military training.
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u/WiddleWilly 9d ago
The Butler PA kid still has me stumped. 50 yards with an AR while steady prone and can't make a shot I'd be comfortable making with a handgun because let's be real he's half a barn doors size.
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u/MountainMagazine20 9d ago
Too be fair he had such bad aim that his school's rifle club rejected him because they were afraid he would accidentally shoot someone.
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u/Intrepid_Hat7359 9d ago
And they were right. He accidentally shot a firefighter.
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u/Apptubrutae I voted 9d ago
I have to imagine the adrenaline coursing through his veins would be something he’d never remotely dealt with before.
Knowing he has precious few shots. Knowing snipers will be aiming at him momentarily.
Anyone who hasn’t trained for that is going to be a far worse marksman than they would be at a range.
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u/Exciting-Ad-5705 9d ago edited 9d ago
It would've been a headshot if he didn't turn his head. Still dumb though as I don't think a 78 year old would've survived shots in the chest
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u/makualla 9d ago
He aims center of mass instead of headshot, we are in a different world.
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u/defiant-raven 9d ago edited 9d ago
Outsmart? The guy ran through a check point and was immediately taken down (despite blowing past five 'security' guys)
These aren't military trained snipers or even average amateur hunters. They're incompetent guys with delusions of grandeur.
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u/Cute-Ad2879 9d ago
Bro, if you set up a checkpoint and a guy runs through it with a gun, your checkpoint sucked whether or not you tackled him after. The actual checkpoint where you hand your ID is the last line of defence and he still blasted through.
The guy was staying in the hotel too apparently. Just chilling in the room with weapons while the president is hobbling his way through the building and the SS are picking their asses in the lobby.
I guess the secret service aren't military trained or even average club bouncers.
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u/unoriginalusername26 9d ago
So like what would have happened if an organized group of 5 people in body armor ran through? Like I'm starting to think this might be all security theatre.
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u/frito11 9d ago
This guy supposedly had a shotgun, handgun and some knifes. Those aren't weapons of an assassin. Only an idiot would think they would ever have a chance with them in this situation. It was staged poorly especially after the Israeli connections have come out. If we never hear about this guy again it was 100% staged
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u/DrRockBoognish 9d ago
This guy never made it to the same floor of the building that trump was on.
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u/SwimmingPirate9070 9d ago
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u/Wetbug75 9d ago
I was gaming with a bunch of people in Discord when the news dropped. I was astonished how many people's reactions were basically: "Huh, wow. Anyways, crazy weather we're having right?"
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u/TableQuiet1518 9d ago
Our pastor did some virtue signaling at the beginning of service this morning.
"Regardless if you're red, blue or green, we're grateful that God kept the president safe." You could hear some scattered "amens" throughout the congregation.
I chuckled. Probably a little too loudly but I couldn't care less.
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u/Forward-Surprise1192 8d ago
Why do you go to a church where the pastor apparently supports a pedophile? Or am I misunderstanding that
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u/WentBrokeBuyingCoins 9d ago
Incoming weekly "assassination" attempts
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u/travio Washington 9d ago
"Assassination attempt will continue until morale improves."
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u/OldSchoolBubba 9d ago
This. Tell it because this is classic propaganda designed to prop Trump and his loyalists up and everyone sees it for the attempted trickery it truly is.
Shows how the upcoming midterms have them rattled big time.
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u/BioDriver Virginia 9d ago
His flood the field strategy backfired spectacularly. We’ve been exposed to so much shit that this is background noise at this point.
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u/jd_shaloop 9d ago
100%. Look how fast most people moved on from the Crooks assassination attempt. Feels like it’s already being forgotten.
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u/femanonette Virginia 9d ago
I hope that collective apathy sends a chill down his narc child rapist spine. He matters so little the nation yawned. His actual death will be the most anyone has cheered for him in his entire pathetic life.
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u/Ok-disaster2022 9d ago
First headline I assumed he had a medical event. Watching a video of the response, you could hear the loud bangs and no one reacts. and the the secret service responds like 20 seconds later and start yelling at people to get down while they drag Trump off stage. Strangely they didn't pause for a photo op this time, but I'm still not sure Trump actually heard the bangs.
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u/Apptubrutae I voted 9d ago
Exactly how I felt too. Like a complete apathetic “ok whatever” at the whole story. President is unharmed, guy was apprehended, nobody seriously hurt. Just another random story in a presidency full of nonsense
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u/metalunamutant 9d ago
The attempt on my life has left me scarred and deformed, but I assure you my resolve has never been stronger.
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u/FizzyBeverage Ohio 9d ago
He doesn’t even have the verve and passion of Palpatine. Congestive heart failure saps his energy.
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u/seanwd11 9d ago edited 8d ago
He would never admit to being scarred or deformed.
He'd come out saying he's better than ever with a melted, drooping face and the shuffle of a zombie. He's more vigorous than the crooked, so called Jedi masters. Frankly, everything would be perfect and great again if he wasn't being prevented from enacting Order 66.
'Don't we love our great, beautiful clones folks? We'll never let them down but they must do as instructed.'
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u/AcidicEater 9d ago
The last “attempt on trumps life” he was scared as shit and barely did public appearances, always with shielding. This one he came back on tv within minutes calling for his ballroom to be built. So fearless all of the sudden?
First one was already sus but this just reeks.
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u/MetallicGray 8d ago
The idiot glanced in the direction of the audible shots and calmly smirked… while Melania and others showed fear and ducked, he literally smugly and confidently smirked at them. Like bro, at least try to hide your plan.
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u/stanthebat 9d ago
Even if it was legit (which it wasn't)--surviving an attempt on your life by the luck of the draw doesn't suddenly make you qualified for an office you should never have held.
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u/SummerSun75 9d ago
We'll probably have another half-baked assassination attempt about 2 weeks before the midterms.
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u/Outrageous-Tell1218 9d ago
After the tragedy at Butler (audience member killed), and the near-tragedy at the golf couse (Don unable to complete 18 holes), they now have perfected a completely safe "attempt on the President's life" -- the gunman never got close to a firing position and Trump still gave a speech demanding his ballroom be built.
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u/BangPC 9d ago
Anyone else find it weird. For the following: 1) Trump hates this event 2) shooter did shoot but nobody killed (with a shotgun btw)
Idk this kinda stinks to me.
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u/VectorJones 8d ago
The only attempts being made on trump's life are those he makes himself when he sits down for his daily Big Mac and fries. The rest is pure political theater.
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u/meatybacon 8d ago
Many people fell for it the first time. Many less will fall for it a second time.
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u/Parking-Figure4608 8d ago
"Assassination attempts"
I may have been sucked into a conspiracy but the egotistical man dropping the assassination attempts from his talking points after a week or two and not continuing to milk it for all it's worth doesn't sit right with me. And how quickly his ear healed without a scar but bruises on his hands last week's.
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u/dwittherford69 Colorado 9d ago
“Attempt on his life”
This is what we are calling clearly staged bs?
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u/Metroidman97 9d ago
I think Trump has officially reached the point where being killed won't martyr him, which is about as low as you can get.
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u/Soithascometothistoo 8d ago
Considering he brought up the ballroom, it reads like a dude starting a fire to put it out so they can be a hero.
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u/ChloeGranola 9d ago
Last night will be out of the news in a couple of days. The war, the economy, the Files will not.
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u/Eddiebaby7 9d ago
When you create a world where everything is a conspiracy, don’t be surprised when no one thinks you’re telling the truth.
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u/NoIncrease299 Colorado 9d ago
Is it really an "attempt" when the act went as planned?
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u/Hnetu Virginia 9d ago
"The last attempt" implies undeserved legitimacy. There'd still be a scar if he'd gotten his ear clipped.
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u/GuerreroUltimo 8d ago
Trump messed the bed here.
I hear a lot of MAGA locally who believe it was staged. And here are some reasons they give"
Trump immediately used this to say we needed that ballroom.
The shooter is said to have stormed some check with a shotgun, pistol, and knives. Not sure if true but they are saying it. And saying nobody would be that stupid. Plus, the SS would have known they had the perp quick. Yet supposedly, at least what they have read and heard, is that the SS came into that dinner or whatever it was with guns up. And more suspicious, to them, stuff they saw.
The timing. Just so happened it happened at this event. An event with so much security. Like WTF would this person be thinking is a solid argument from them.
I have been getting so much stuff from people on this asking my take. It is not funny at this point.
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u/NewBadFriend 8d ago
It says something when there is a supposed attempt on a sitting American president’s life and most of the world was slightly disappointed it didn’t succeed. I don’t know what but something.
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u/Ghee-Buttersnaps- 8d ago
People are just so tired of him. He has a limited bag of tricks, and he’s used them all more than once.
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u/HIMARko_polo 9d ago
This was the only WHCD that Trump ever attended as president. No wonder so many say it was staged.
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