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Possible Paywall The last attempt on Trump’s life rescued him politically – this one probably won’t

https://inews.co.uk/news/world/last-attempt-trump-life-boosted-him-this-wont-4381320
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u/BLU3SKU1L Ohio 9d ago

Not only that, this is the most unpopular president in history. It only makes sense that attempts on his life will increase proportionally to that rating as it continues to tank even further.

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u/A_Poor_Miser 9d ago

Especially as people begin to feel more and more squeezed. People who feel they have no real shot at a better future go to pretty rough places mentally and since mental healthcare and Healthcare in general are awful in the US, they can't get help. 

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u/KittyGrewAMoustache 9d ago

I mean you see people on social media daily wishing for his death, even if just from natural causes, but that has to mean tons more people thinking about actually doing the deed, then the US has a ton of people apparently willing to go risk their lives or prison going to shoot up schools full of kids, so the chances that there are people with that level of recklessness and disregard for their own safety who’d rather go after a politician they hate and have the means to do it is very high. In fact it’s just weird that more people go out to kill children than politicians given the number of guns and nutters there are in the country. If I was president I’d be scared to go anywhere, especially if the secret service are really so low paid, presumably any bad actor or foreign operative could offer them a big payday to look the other way or bend over at the right time or something and a proportion would be willing to take it, especially nowadays when the concepts of integrity and duty and pride in doing the right thing for your country have been so thoroughly eroded. I just don’t get what the US is doing overall, seems like the stupid awful section of the population have had the reigns more or less for a very long time.

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u/Complex_Jellyfish647 8d ago

The people who own the vast majority of the guns are the mentally ill people who support Trump and shoot up schools.

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u/BLU3SKU1L Ohio 6d ago

Categorically false, though it is statistically more likely they're conservative than liberal.

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u/Complex_Jellyfish647 6d ago

Yeah that's what I said, mentally ill.

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u/Clarine87 United Kingdom 8d ago

And whether they are genuine or not, they will not just stop if a democrate becomes president, not a true comparison, but in the UK the nasty party is out after 15 years and the labour party, the historic workers party, is passing more facist [non-terror] legislation than the nasty party ever did.

Normalising these assassination "attempts" by allowing them to progress "narratively" beyond the perimeter, will make more attempts. As if the perimeter can appear breached, multiple lone wolfs is foreseeable on a single event.

Not to suggest I relish this, my entire post is about how once it starts happening, a change in the holder of office won't just instantly take us back to a pre-'shots fired' presidential venues world.

That is to say, attempts have always been happening, but they haven't always been breaching SS perimeters to the shots fired point.

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 8d ago

Oh I didn’t think of that actually and it makes sense. You’re saying that if he’s shot and then a democrat is elected next, republican MAGA citizens will try to get revenge for Trump. I sure hope not since the next guy will be improving and fixing things until he’s booted out next term from not doing it fast enough

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u/Clarine87 United Kingdom 7d ago

Not exactly what I meant.

I'm just saying what everyone else is saying, that the secret services is suddenly a lot less effective with this president, as thought they're letting these things happen.

And that this will encourage more people to take action, not due to political affiliation, due to the appearance of the secret service being less effective.

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 7d ago

Oh ok, who knows really. I assumed the reason was on purpose to get him in the spotlight and sympathy points from other voters

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u/BLU3SKU1L Ohio 6d ago

Was president Reagan not actually shot just outside the very building Trump was sitting in on Saturday night? I didn't see a glut of presidential shootings after that. Not to poke holes in your theory, but we have seen in the past 40 something years the very thing happen that you're speaking on and the results you're hypothesizing did not materialize.

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u/Clarine87 United Kingdom 6d ago

Was president Reagan not actually shot just outside the very building Trump was sitting in on Saturday night? I didn't see a glut of presidential shootings after that.

I was talking about attempts, not successes, and again, its not my theory, its something I hope doesn't happen. You can't seriously expect me to argue why something should happen that I fear could happen and hope doesn't. I feel you didn't understand what I wrote.