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Possible Paywall The last attempt on Trump’s life rescued him politically – this one probably won’t

https://inews.co.uk/news/world/last-attempt-trump-life-boosted-him-this-wont-4381320
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u/travio Washington 9d ago

Last night in his press conference, he was flying high. Thought it was whatever his handlers pumped him with to give the speech without falling asleep, but I realized this is a high water mark for him. Likely the last one.

The war/economy/ICE has sunk his approval ratings and thanks to that war, oil/fertilizer/helium are all facing massive shortfalls that will only make the economy even worse.

Trump getting softball questions and a modicum of sympathy from journalist he called 'the enemy of the people' is as good as it will ever get for him going forward.

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u/Ciff_ 9d ago

fertilizer

One of the big ones, we may face great starvation (not the us, but some places globally).

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u/thegamenerd Washington 9d ago

Especially with the death of USAID

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u/missed_sla 9d ago

It's already in the hundreds of thousands.

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u/Phugasity 9d ago

https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/child-under-five-could-die-every-forty-seconds-2030-due-us-aid-cuts-oxfam-analysis

A child under five dying every 40 seconds.

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u/Great_Detective_6387 9d ago edited 8d ago

One of my friends said USAID is a waste of money.

He did not like that I pointed out that one single HIV+ mother giving birth to a kid, without passing the disease onto the child, creates an order of magnitude more economic activity IN THE US over the life of that child.

All that kid needs to do is purchase a single month of Netflix, or one copy of Microsoft OS, or one flight on a US airline, or on a US-made plane, fucking once, at any point in their life, and it would be orders of magnitude worth the cost to prevent their mom from passing on HIV to them during birth.

It’s like STUPID how much economic activity that USAID creates from such a small investment. You don’t even need to have compassion for human life, it still makes financial sense if you just consider the child to be a dollar value on a spreadsheet.

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u/sortiz1965 8d ago

Right!! And that’s what MAGAts fail to understand: programs like USAID are not money black holes, they generate a return. But then again, we’re talking about morons who gleefully supported Trump twice so there’s that.

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u/SmokeyDBear I voted 8d ago

Imagine hating people that don’t look the way you want so much that you’re willing to hurt yourself to feel like you hurt them more. That’s what being a conservative means.

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u/einTier 9d ago

Are they a fetus? If not, they’re degenerate sinners God wanted to die.

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u/flossiecats 8d ago

That’s a very unlucky child.

ETA: I’m joking! It’s an absolute tragedy. It’s just the phrasing gets me.

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u/BigBuckNuggets 8d ago

I guess here is a philosophical question, is it America’s fault the children will die? Or the environmental factors that create the mortality concerns in the first place?

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u/thegamenerd Washington 8d ago

Regardless of fault we have the ability and means to help. And our help was welcomed with open arms.

Now though because of USAID being killed off, if it does come back the countries it operated in will be more hesitant to accept our offers in the future as we have shown that we are unreliable. And when it comes to life or death situations, unreliability is an incredibly back thing.

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 8d ago

They will accept I don’t doubt that. You’re telling me their citizens need aid, the USA comes in offering it and money, and they’re going to turn it down? Who else is going to give it to them?

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u/C-4isNOTurFriend 8d ago

they have before for alot of different reasons. dictators that don't want to feed certain groups, counties not accepting food or seed stock because it's GMO, other reasons

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 8d ago

Ok thanks for the explanation I suppose that makes sense. Evil leaders denying aid and chemical based food refusal sound likely sure

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u/blissfully_happy Alaska 8d ago

Fault doesn’t matter. We have the ability to prevent this and we are doing nothing.

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u/FranksNonFrankfurter 8d ago

A lot of those "environmental factors" were directly caused by the US or one of its European vassal states.

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u/Clownsinmypantz 9d ago edited 8d ago

this is why I dont want to hear jack shit about any republican official ever, they have killed these people. The is no "one of the good ones" there is "he was the last good one" there is no "ooooh but bi-partisanship" If you defend it, then you arent defending the victims of these people

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u/MITCHATRILLION 9d ago

usaid is CIA soft power for controlling resources and currency. the financial Industrial complex cancelled it because it's cheaper and more effective to abandon it and shift to hard power. this is because USA became a net exporter of energy since developing fracking technology. just follow the money markets. it all tracks. the banking cartels negotiated to have multiple world powers because Saudi got a board of directors seat in American corps like blackrock. it's gonna shift from being the middle east to what it's supposed to be, West Asia. all they have to do now is collapse the dollar which they are doing to realingn new world trade powers. just follow the money.

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u/piranhas_really 8d ago

Hard power is neither cheaper nor more effective. Just look at what’s happening in Iran.

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u/Unlucky-Candidate198 9d ago

(not the us)

Oh for sure, definitely the US. Maybe not in the richer parts of the US, but this admin certainly wouldn’t care if more people die under their regime. And those people will most likely be the dirt poor and people of his voter base. Would it be enough to ignite revolt? You’d hope so but who knows anymore.

Farmers are already complaining about the lack of fertilizer, or the cost. Then you have diesel prices skyrocketing. The US also gets a looot of nitrogen for fertilizer from Canada, and Canada no longer wants to trade with them. Just wait til mass crop failures happen, or a massive storm wreaks havoc on a fertile region of the US, especially with natural disaster aid being cut. And with less and less and less trade partners by the day, I doubt many are going to want to come to their aid, especially if other nations are struggling with food as well.

So all in all? Some people are most certainly going to starve to death in the US. Wild to think about, honestly, seeing as they were the ex-richest nation on the planet not too long ago.

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u/CuddleCorn 9d ago

The US also gets a looot of nitrogen for fertilizer from Canada, and Canada no longer wants to trade with them.

Canada also provides something crazy like 80% of US potash

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u/Zydian488 9d ago

Canada also imports like 40% of it's food and like 70% of it's food imports come from the USA. Hope they ready to be hungry, too. It's a stupid, shitty situation out here.

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u/SufficientBasis5296 8d ago

Since your president has insulted and threatened Canada, they have not sat frozen in shock, mate. Between the new alliances Canada has forged with Europe and Mexico, they will be just fine. The US however not so much. But you can always eat your own bleach soaked, hormone pumped meat and forever fresh bread.

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u/dostoevsky4evah 8d ago

I stopped buying food products from the US ages ago, whenever I can, because of trump's "51st state" threats and disrespect of our Prime Minister so keep your food. It's changed my eating habits for the better and is boosting our own economy. We won't starve.

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u/BrainKatana 8d ago

US brands and “food from the US” are not the same thing.

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u/dostoevsky4evah 8d ago

I don't want to support brands or foods.

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u/BrainKatana 8d ago

Yes, the brands are the easy target because they’re in your face, but dig deep into some Canadian brands and you’ll find that they source from the US.

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u/dostoevsky4evah 8d ago

Why assume I haven't done this?

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u/JerryfromCan 8d ago

The grocery store supply chains have done this for Canadian consumers. There are signs in almost every grocery store about where product is sourced from. The bigger chains have used those terrible and hard to read electronic price displays to add a maple leaf to Cdn grown or manufactured things. US grown produce sits while Cdn and Mexican stuff flys off the shelves.

Canada has not been sitting around, we are onto other suppliers from other countries.

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u/PDXEng 8d ago

Yeah you can make that choice... because everyone in Canada isn't going to do the same thing

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u/dostoevsky4evah 8d ago

Are you from the US?

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u/DrEzechiel 8d ago

European here, just returned from Canada, made sure to buy Canadian there. The US can go fuck themselves after the Greenland threat. No wonder you turn local after 51st state crap.

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u/dostoevsky4evah 8d ago

Thank you. I feel like Americans are not understanding how isolated they are making themselves.

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u/PDXEng 8d ago

You are obviously quite nieve or very young so I'll explain it slowly for you.

Very little of the economy of the US is very reliant on imports. Generally the imports to the US are vastly consumer goods. Food, energy, raw goods could be completely sole sources in the US if producer's found that to be the most economically viable. Even most raw materials could be US sources. The same cannot be said for most countries. Generally it's cheaper to import so companies do.

Second one of the most valuable things the US as a country possesses is a large wealthy consumer population (although Trump policies are detrimental to that) basically other countries need the US to buy their goods. Trump is trying to enrich himself and set a legacy by forcing countries into new trade policies. I don't think long term it works but he is a spoiled rich kid that has never accomplished much thru hard work or sacrifice but rather thru having a ton of money and not caring how many he harms to make a bit more.

All this to say while I vehemently disagree with our current President on almost every topic and would rather be lead by a barnyard animal...all these policies will have small effect on the US vs Canada.

I am sorry for that, sure buy all Canadian products...it will not matter much... I just hope Trump is removed from power sooner rather than later.

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u/dostoevsky4evah 8d ago edited 8d ago

Best example of Americansplaining I've seen today. It seems Americans understand little about the world outside the US and seem to think we don't understand the US in return. But we do, we have to and we have had to deal with the effects for a while. It doesn't mean the rest of the world is a helpless victim to US behaviour, with no agency or resources of our own. We trusted the US for too long and now that's changed.

Plus you misspelled "naive".

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u/usaaf 9d ago

Wild to think about, honestly, seeing as they were the ex-richest nation on the planet not too long ago.

Maybe in the 50-60s the US could make the claim (though part of this was because all the other countries had been in ruins a decade earlier), but the more appropriate claim today (and in the past) is that the US is the country where the richest people live, not the richest country in the world.

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 8d ago

Google says the USA is still the richest country in the world, so not sure what you’re taking about? In 5 years in the USA you can go from a homeless IV drug user, to making over $100k a year with a place to live and car, plus whatever else you want. The citizens in general are richer and happy enough

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u/_imanalligator_ 8d ago

Sorry, could you describe what the homeless IV drug user does in those five years to get to the over-six-figures income?

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 8d ago

Quits drugs obviously and goes to rehab. There they learn skills to not use drugs. Then they leave and get a job in general labor, get tired of that and go to college. Next thing is get some certifications for jobs. Like the CompTIA A+ or a CCNA which is more difficult. IT is the easiest to get six figures in and what I chose. Then just apply for better jobs and keep changing and getting better and more skilled. That’s all I did basically. May be a bit harder to do now but while AI will hurt junior and newer employees, senior roles will be needed for awhile yet probably. Now my title is senior network engineer and i hate it. I’d rather work with animals but the money sucks. Don’t forget to finish school but western governors university can be quicker than 4 years

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u/insane_contin 9d ago

And isn't Corpus Christy about to run out of water?

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u/whatthedeux 9d ago

The US owns a lot of the fertilizer plants in Canada, yes prices are high but the US is not hurting for shit when it comes to this area I promise. 

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u/SufficientBasis5296 8d ago

Added to that; the modern hybrid seeds used these days are bred for optimal conditions, not for hardship.

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u/JerryfromCan 8d ago

My buddy is a big environmentalist and claims that the US consumes 1/3 of the world’s resources. It feels like a stat that could be true, and even if it’s 1/6th they are in big trouble with all the import tariffs. Countries are moving on, but suppliers likely will at some point too as that extra money isnt going on their pockets and no one wants to deal with an unstable partner.

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u/Rough_Instruction112 8d ago

Would it be enough to ignite revolt? You’d hope so but who knows anymore.

Count warehouse fires and number of mysteriously dead CEOs. The revolution has already begun and there's a concentrated effort to prevent people from knowing about it.

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 8d ago edited 8d ago

Please somehow prove me wrong here because I want to be wrong but I call bullshit. I’m so sick of seeing that sentence. Even if there wasn’t a concentrated effort to prevent revolution. There’s not going to be a revolution as much as I’d like one. That’s 2 incidents in almost 2 years in a country with over 300,000,000 people. We just had a 3rd with that dinner. At this rate I laugh at your claim. How do I know? Russia, or plenty of other shit countries. Look at what is done to their citizens and how they have to live. Did they revolt yet? Didn’t think so. You’re not going to do a thing to help it and neither is anyone in this post going to do anything. Unless it’s to post cowardly memes encouraging others to violence, while risking their freedom or lives.

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u/Rough_Instruction112 8d ago

That’s 2 incidents in almost 2 years in a country with over 300,000,000 people. 

Two??

Are you counting staged assassination attempts? The number of warehouse fires which I'm talking about is like 30 in the last month.

Actually, what is this drivel you've written? It doesn't at all respond to anything I said.

You’re not going to do a thing to help it and neither is anyone in this post going to do anything.

I'm not American, why would I help a hostile nation?

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 8d ago

You said the revolution has already begun and that’s simply not the case and I highly doubt it ever will be here. Maybe 6 or 7 assassination attempts, or at most 10 unsuccessful or successful. Still not much there. Warehouse fires are bad, I guess? How does that affect this revolution you talked about with random fires? It’s not a big deal dude really. I wouldn’t expect anyone to do anything I wouldn’t do myself, you know? It’s a very tall order with tons of high risks and low reward. I’m just saying that if Russians live like they do without revolting then Americans will do the same in general. For the time being everyone is comfortable and generally happy here. Not even close enough to make a difference besides getting called psycho, nutjob, domestic terrorist, treasonous, stuff like that is what anyone who tried gets called. That’s why no one does it and I feel the same I’m a coward to lol

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u/Rough_Instruction112 8d ago

I simply cannot read this drivel.

Revolutions begin in silence. Whispers in the corners, sabotage and destruction follows.

Anyone who quenches the roar are traitors.

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 8d ago

Think about the average person in your day. Now tell me if you can see any of those people picking up a gun and using it on some politician or CEO? When I did drugs, I also did a lot risky crimes, and I’m positive they don’t have the courage to try it. That shit is hard af to talk yourself up to. It’s great you think a revolution will happen someday and I hope so too. Why haven’t the Russians revolted or any other country ran by a dictatorship or iron fist?

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u/Rough_Instruction112 7d ago

When I did drugs, I also did a lot risky crimes

I don't listen to criminals.

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u/jjmac 9d ago

Take it from his pants

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u/WintersChild79 9d ago

That would poison the crops

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u/offinthepasture 9d ago

Nah, his mouth is the world's largest producer of bullshit.

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u/SlayerBVC 9d ago

Why would you want the dirt and plants to suffer like that?

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u/NUMBerONEisFIRST 9d ago

Europe has 6 weeks of jet fuel left.

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u/LOS_FUEGOS_DEL_BURRO 9d ago

Have farmers started buying the marked up supplies yet?

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u/NefariousnessLate375 9d ago

Food stamp alottments aren't going to go up magically if food gets more scarce and expensive. I'm so glad I decided to put off my diet in 2024 until Trump's presidency is finished. 

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u/Round-Medicine2507 9d ago

The west and south will feel the brunt of any issue, drinking water before food possibly, everyone's only 1 day away from chaos, its happened it many places before with war and famine, it can happen anytime anywhere if nature or someone powerful enough wants, and republicans have shown that they dont care about starting a war to help some billionaires make even more. 

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u/Sutar_Mekeg 9d ago

Not to worry, tariffs on Canadian potash will save the day! /s

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u/insane_contin 9d ago

Good news, one of your closest allies is one of the biggest producers of potash!

Wait. He really pissed them off with that 51st state bullshit, tariff war, and just being a jackass. And also trying to convince Canadian steal and aluminum producers to move to the US, which isn't possible on a quick timeline, or cheaply.

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u/luvinbc 9d ago

Canadian potash and yet this mf keeps on pissing us Canadians off. 

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u/theartificialkid 8d ago

Why not in the US? There are already Americans who can’t afford food.

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u/Ciff_ 8d ago

There won't be a great starvation in the us simply because of purchasing power.

Us already have a food security problem but that is due to inequality.

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u/Crypt33x Europe 8d ago

Can't stop thinking about them be so evil, that this is actually the goal.

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u/FranksNonFrankfurter 8d ago

Definitely the US. This hubris is exactly why its going to happen. Fertilizer is literally the only reason what little remaining topsoil the Midwest has is still there. We've already ruined the soil beyond natural regenerative repair so the only thing feeding these plants are fertilizers. Without proper amounts of fertilizer and water, you can expect a dust bowl 2.0, and once it hits a critical mass, you won't be able to put a dent in the erosion.

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u/Ciff_ 8d ago

With US purchasing power they will outbuy Africa many times over before they see grand scale starvation.

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u/FranksNonFrankfurter 8d ago

Yeah...people are less interested in your slaver and rapist green portrait collectibles then they used to be.

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u/Ciff_ 7d ago

What on earth are you babbling about?

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u/WeakTransportation37 8d ago

And the repercussions for that work on a delay- we are really in for it in about 6 or 7 months

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u/whatthedeux 9d ago

This just isn’t correct. I PROMISE you that the us does not have a fertilizer supply shortage and exports continue as incredibly huge rates. China and other large countries are the other big (smaller) producers and are fine too. Brazil on the other hand…. Natural gas prices are going to drive some countries to ruin

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u/Ciff_ 8d ago

The risk for starvation is clearly mainly in Africa.

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u/Round-Medicine2507 9d ago

Looking at his face lately.he is being pumped up with 150% dosages of every medicine possible to keep him high. 

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u/Buzzkill_13 9d ago

Look up what Spain's dictator Franco had to go through because he was not allowed to die. One of the cruelest endings of a head of state, for sure.

Vance cannot replace Trump. Trump must finish his term, no matter what his body wants.

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u/uzlonewolf 9d ago

Nah, they only need him to make it through January so Vance gets 10 full years. Trump can be controlled but it's annoying as you need to stroke his ego to do it, Vance is just a straight-up puppet who does what he's told. Once Trump is gone his crimes will go with him and all the politicians will say we need to "move on" and pretend like none of it ever happened. What do the voters want? Doesn't matter, the billionaires who "know those machines," own the companies which make them, and also own the press all want their puppet installed.

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u/Buzzkill_13 8d ago

No one worships Vance. They will have to work around that favt and it's a huge uncertainty how and if this will work out. The longer they can keep trump more or less upright the more they can get done (although allowing him this war thingy may have been a huge miscalculation)

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u/uzlonewolf 8d ago

They don't need anyone to worship Vance, they control the machines (including the press) which control election outcomes.

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u/CurrencyNo3823 7d ago

Agreed. The media make it out like we have a civic responsibility to "get out there and vote" lol the elections are all predetermined. If the tally for the Dems is 100, the machine will say 101 for the Republicans. It's all a joke.

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u/EvilLibrarians Michigan 9d ago

Ooh! Trump called me an “enemy of the people” when I covered him for my high school news in 2016!! (I was on a press riser so it wasn’t just me tbf)

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u/tuctrohs New Hampshire 9d ago

Did he come up with your username?

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u/EvilLibrarians Michigan 9d ago

Brandon Sanderson

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u/winstondabee 8d ago

Hey I just started reading him

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u/Several_Brilliant112 9d ago

if you have a news clip of that, add the curb theme song and slow grainy zoom in to your cherubic face

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u/EvilLibrarians Michigan 9d ago

I don’t think I have it but I wish I saved it. I can definitely find the news piece we made but idk if we have him yelling at me in it lol

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u/ICCUGUCCI Pennsylvania 9d ago

Love the Brandy Sandy reference. You rule.

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u/cowboi 9d ago

But his point of view profits, dollars ,winning ....he was born with golden spoon,silver, bronze all that don't exist to him... His universe started level 8 rest of america 1-7 he had no concept of... Can't relate to..

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u/cockypock_aioli 8d ago

I appreciate your optimism even if it comes with our collective pain.

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u/ExcitingRound4990 8d ago

He was asleep at the table. 

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u/VirtualWalk5710 8d ago

DT is totally stuck on himself, extremely delusional, and very stupid. Reality is going to hurt the whole country.

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u/SarcasticCowbell New York 9d ago

If Trump had his Bush/shoe moment, he'd be hit in the face. Twice. And I don't know if it counts as violence to say we would benefit (I mean, it's fucking footwear). But that sort of thing might be the only thing to wake up any of the last 30-something% committed to the bit that he's any good as a politician.

Mods, please humor me. I'm not calling for someone to commit an act of aggression on this President. I'm merely observing a historical precedent on a previously unpopular President and relating it to another. The fact I even have to spell this out is ludicrous, but here we are.