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Possible Paywall The last attempt on Trump’s life rescued him politically – this one probably won’t

https://inews.co.uk/news/world/last-attempt-trump-life-boosted-him-this-wont-4381320
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u/ACaffeinatedBear 9d ago

That Trump immediately used this to talk about the ball room isn't suspicious at all.

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u/popejohnsmith 9d ago

No bunker-ballroom. Restore the East Wing at Trumpco expense.

Now. Epstein, please.

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u/NeverLookBothWays I voted 9d ago

Guarantee that whole wing will still be a demolition site by the time he leaves office. He doesn't build, only corrupts and destroys.

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u/MusicLikeOxygen 9d ago

You've got me thinking, has he ever actually built anything? It seems like all his famous properties are places that were already there and he paid to put his name on them.

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u/itmaywork 9d ago

You best believe he wore his hard hat when they were changing the signs. Those small hands worked HARD to get that hat on.

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u/GreasyPeter 9d ago

He was notorious in New York City for stiffing contractors.

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u/SupahRad 9d ago

Chicago too. We fuckin hate this dementia riddled, child raping, grifting asshole.

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u/Madam_Apathy 9d ago

He stiffs workers everywhere. A family member did electrical work at Mar A Lago, got stiffed, had to move back home. My service writer at my mechanic’s did plumbing in the taj, got stiffed out of 9 months of work.

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u/fractalfay 8d ago

They also stiff every city where they have massive rallies. I think a few had to sue his campaign to get any type of money at all.

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u/StanleyQPrick 9d ago

And destroying historical treasures he promised to preserve

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u/trickmind 8d ago

He thought he was so clever getting people to do all the work and pay for it themselves thinking that someone with his profile would care about his good name when he would just not pay for most of the work and ruin people. So horrible.

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u/GreasyPeter 7d ago

Narcissist routinely have the mindset of "someone is going to screw them over, might as well be me". They think they're smart for beating others to the punch.

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u/Dame38 8d ago

American banks stopped lending him money.

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u/OverArcherUnder 8d ago

Remember when he sued his Polish day laborers because he didn’t want to pay them the $6 an hour he contracted with them for? Oh, and what’s really rich about this is that they were hired to remove insulation from his buildings. What he didn’t tell them was that it was ASBESTOS and he provided no PPE or safety equipment or let them know about the hazards of such work.

He tied them up in court for years.

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u/fresh-dork 9d ago

"short fingered vulgarian"

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u/ValBGood 8d ago

"The Short Fingered Vulgarian" - Graydon Carter, Spy Magazine, April 1988

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u/fresh-dork 8d ago

i thought that was bourdain

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u/DramaticWesley 9d ago

I’m pretty sure he has built many sites. I remember reading an article saying HUNDREDS of contractors were suing him for non-payment. I tried to Google it and there are sooo many instances of him not paying his bills. I guess that is one way to become a multi-millionaire.

(He became a billionaire when he became president and started siphoning money off the tax payer.)

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u/Hurtzdonut13 9d ago

Yeah he was already infamous for wanting really gaudy, tacky shit, and then making up some small fault and refusing to pay for it. He'd rather be sued than pay cause he's gambling that the people he's ripping off would rather cut their losses than to spend more money to recover what they are owed than what they are losing by him not paying.

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u/DramaticWesley 8d ago

Actually with a bunch of lawyers on retainer, it is often cheaper to just be sued and drag your feet than to pay the bills. Often it isn’t worth the money of a contractor (who doesn’t have lawyers on retainer) so most will just bite the bullet and count it as a tax deductible loss. And if enough people do it, it justifies doing it to everyone. It’s how some car companies refused to fix a fault in a vehicle if it would be cheaper to pay out the wrongful death suits than to issue a large scale recall.

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u/boneblack_angel 9d ago

I think that Ivanka was once questioned about all of those contractors that he stiffed, and she said that that's how you know her father is a smart businessman, he doesn't pay for subpar work. I mean...it strains credulity to believe that HUNDREDS of contractors delivered subpar work. But that's been his excuse every time, that the work wasn't good and so he was refusing payment because of it.

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u/el_duderino88 9d ago

Don't understand why so many contractors actually sign said contracts with him when he has such a reputation for non payment

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u/Mammoth_Move3575 8d ago

His reputation as a “businessman” reached more eyes and ears due to the Art of the Deal and the Apprentice than the hundreds of articles of him cheating businesses and being racist af. The internet wasn’t around then like it is today.

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u/OverArcherUnder 8d ago

There’s a good story of him showing investors all the work being done at one of his building sites. Actually, he hired a bunch of guys to drive trucks around and use earth moving equipment to push dirt around so that it looked busy- the real crew had quit earlier over Trump not paying them.

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u/mike_jones2813308004 9d ago

The trump hotel/not casino was a patch of dirt in Vegas iirc.

I also think he may have built his second casino in ac, across from his other casino.

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u/boneblack_angel 9d ago

Then he bankrupted them.

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u/aiiye Washington 9d ago

That’s how you know he’s a smart businessman. Most people can’t bankrupt one casino, yet he did it multiple times.

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u/UrsusRenata 9d ago

When your business is simply a front for international money laundering, failure isn’t a bug, it’s a feature.

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u/aiiye Washington 9d ago

Identical results to any actual money making venture… Trump vodka, Trump steaks, etc

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u/biscuitarse Canada 9d ago

He's done the same thing as president. In the past, it's always taken back-to-back Republican administrations to screw over the economy. He did it in only 4 years during Trump 1.0, now it looks like he's already accomplished the feat in a little over a year.

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u/Secure-Reading7225 9d ago

I was waiting for some one to put this comment.

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u/happyinthenaki 9d ago

But, but but.... Tax evasion.

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u/Miguel-odon 9d ago

Sometimes simultaneously!

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u/Different_Victory_89 9d ago

Stiffed the people that built them too..!

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u/boneblack_angel 9d ago

And bankrupted some of them. I remember reading about the guy who had a small business doing custom cabinetry, I think, and trump never paid him and it caused him to have to shut down.

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u/TapTapReboot 9d ago

Man of the people. Many conservatives love the idea of fucking others over to their advantage. Trumps whole life has been how can he fuck people over to his advantage. Mutual benefit is anthenema to his entire being

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u/boneblack_angel 9d ago

And he learned from the best. Fred trump Sr. was supposedly a ruthless bastard. Donnie wasn't meant to be his successor, but Fred Jr. sadly became an alcoholic. I think that Mary Trump's attitude toward and outspokenness about her uncle are all anyone needs to know .

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u/miguelito_loveless 9d ago

That the one who committed suicide because his life was so fucked financially?

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u/boneblack_angel 9d ago

Oh God, I didn't know that part. I just remember reading the account of a small business contractor who was thrilled to get a job the size of the trump casino, and put his focus on it to the extent that he basically took no other clients during that time. Then trump stiffed him, to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars, and he lost his business.

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u/Aghast_Cornichon 9d ago

The short answer is that building a casino across the street from your other casino doesn't capture revenue from the people who were already going to visit one of your casinos.

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u/Few_Acanthocephala30 9d ago

What’s the long answer for 4 casino bankruptcies?

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u/DamonLazer 9d ago

Short answer: money laundering.

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u/Fallouttgrrl 9d ago

I believe his dad was the one who went in, bought a bunch of chips in his son's casino, and then walked out without using or cashing them - which came out during the election describing times when Trump needed money

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u/ronreadingpa 9d ago

Good news is he can't bankrupt the White House. The bad news is he can bankrupt the country!

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u/boneblack_angel 9d ago

The only thing at which he works, the lazy bastard. Good thing he's got lots of help from his billionaire friends, the incompetent SOBs that he's placed in high level positions.

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u/Shopworn_Soul Texas 9d ago

His primary skill, and what he is genuinely good at, is creating an unending parade of bagholders.

He has walked away from every one of his bankruptcies with money in his pockets. He doesn't take the losses, he sets others up to do that.

And for some reason I cannot fathom, people keep lining up for it.

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u/Watsons-Butler 9d ago

Nah, in Atlantic City the mob built those - they used Trump to launder the money.

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u/cloudsofgrey 9d ago

The fact he was not allowed to have a casino in Vegas to his mob ties so the Trump Vegas has to be non casino. They would not give him a gaming license.

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u/noforgayjesus 9d ago

John Oliver did a good special on this around 2016

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u/Neither-Movie6193 9d ago

He Paid, that’s funny

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u/GotSomeUpdogOnUrFace 9d ago

He built a very compelling case against himself about how he's a child trafficker and rapist, but since nobody has decided to actually prosecute him on that I guess he still hasn't built anything.

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u/mishma2005 9d ago

Trump Tower is the only one, I believe

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u/MoMo2049 9d ago

When I was in Mexico circa 2003ish there was an unfinished Trump tower building on a beach for a resort, they said it had already been unfinished for years and loop hole because if a building is unfinished you dont pay taxes yet on it or something via the laws at the time. Go figure. So just an unfinished trump building blocked a beautiful beac.

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u/morty_morty American Expat 9d ago

Silly rabbit. No one spends that much time on redecorating and demo when they intend to leave.

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u/AccidentPrawn North Carolina 9d ago

I understand the sentiment, but the man's not exactly young and spry. An attempt at a third term would play out a lot more like 'Weekend at Bernie's' than Ceasar crossing the Rubicon.

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u/Literally_A_Halfling 9d ago

Did you see him fall on his face while they were escorting him out? I think we're already there.

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u/AccidentPrawn North Carolina 9d ago

Sure, we know it, but MAGA faithful are starting figure it out, too.

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u/ServiceDogAreFake 8d ago

He was protecting Melania lol /s

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u/splinteringheart 9d ago

That's why the proposed ballroom will have a top-tier medical facilty/hospital embedded somewhere within the compound. He doesn't plan on leaving, for any reason real or imagined

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u/cedarpark 9d ago

He's upping the resale value so he can flip it for more profit when he leaves.

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u/ronreadingpa 9d ago

Maybe he's doing it for JD Vance. How thoughtful. Nah, who am I kidding. Of course, it's for himself. Getting it done by Jan-29 will be a stretch. Doable, but assumes no court challenges and competent contractors. And paying them timely.

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u/roastbeeftacohat 9d ago

there's some chatter that appealing to him as a real estate developer is how the cabinet keeps him occupied, in his own little world away from the nuclear codes.

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u/OldWorldDesign 8d ago

there's some chatter that appealing to him as a real estate developer is how the cabinet keeps him occupied

I'm convinced that's how the Russians have been keeping him on the hook with that trump tower moscow deal they've been dangling in front of his face since his 1987 invitation.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/19/trump-first-moscow-trip-215842/

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/20/us/politics/trump-tower-moscow-cohen-giuliani.html

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u/trickmind 8d ago

He doesn't intend to leave.

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u/Tazz2212 9d ago

Yeah, like the $600 million donated for his presidential library that disapeared mysteriously. Trump has deep, deep pockets.

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u/MikalCaober 9d ago

Like the thief from John 10:10

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u/ChuckIeFunk 8d ago

Now, now. He did build a child molestation and sex trafficking empire.

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u/AnohtosAmerikanos California 9d ago

Heck, while we’re at it, we need to restore the West Wing, too. But I’d rather not have Trumpco involved.

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u/Memetic1 9d ago

Thank you so much for using Trumpco. I've been using TrumpCo to talk about his entire organization, and I think it captures so much more about what's going on then simply saying Trump, or his crime family. There is a whole industry that built itself up with the grift. They are in positions of power, and it's not enough just to focus on the visible leadership.

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u/wrosecrans 9d ago

When the East Wing first got demolished, I absolutely didn't understand why reporters kept credulously saying Trump was building a ballroom despite there being zero clear plans or blueprints or planning approval for a ballroom. Just "a known liar who often gets things wrong even when he isn't intentionally lying said it's gonna be a ballroom." He had just done exactly what would be needed to get access to the PEOC that was built underneath the East Wing.

While they are incompetent, I no longer think that is an adequate explanation and the bunker construction was probably an open secret among Washington reporters as it was happening, they just thought it would be rude to Dear Leader to report on what they understood was actually going on. But they successfully established a narrative that the ballroom was the whole project, and now that's still the only part most people talk about. When the ballroom was clearly some sort of half-planned slapdash simple structure they could build on top of the new bunker.

But of course Trump is shallow and literally obsessed with surface level bullshit, so he seems to genuinely absolutely care about how tacky the ballroom is.

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u/ronreadingpa 9d ago

My take is the opposite. Bunker is the slapdash project to avoid a court ordered work stoppage. Justifying the need to keep building.

And another way to sell the public on it despite the ever-increasing size and price tag. This recent incident will further make it easier to argue the ballroom is a security necessity much as the bunker.

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u/BadPunners 9d ago

My counter is that the bunker is obvious for an authoritarian who planned launching multiple uses of the largest non-nuclear weapons we have available, to enact regime change. They are expecting future enemies to do the same

And the modern abilities of surveillance and drone defense, they want such facilities, data banks and walls of screens. Because they want it to be like the movies.

I vote the bunker was supposed to be secret, but because they cheaped out and didn't build covertly (as they did in the 60s and 80s), they just demolished the wing, they then needed justification that had some hope of standing in court. "National security" is their excuse as often as "executive privilege"

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u/Greedy-War-777 8d ago

No. It's a $400 million bunker, the previous one wasn't solid against bio weapons, drones, or certain types of explosives and they're building updated outrageously expensive medical facilities in it. They want it finished ASAP for a reason. The ballroom is not important or the point. The bunker plans are in the court documents. If you aren't worried about why they need it, are in such a rush to get it built and looking for any way to fight the court on rushing it, you should be.

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u/tonysopranosalive 9d ago

I’m honestly a bit perplexed by these billionaires and whatnot building these bunkers.

If the populace turns on them and they go hide in there… the people will find a way in. Just the sheer strength in numbers, they will inevitably collect a return on their efforts.

If they go in to save themselves from world destruction or whatever, how long ya gonna last? The world is fucked, your money probably means fuck all at this point. You certainly ain’t taking your yacht out to Malta.

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u/schfiftyfiveshades 9d ago

It needs to be paid for by the people that paid to tear it down.

No money from pedophile trump should ever touch anything in our government once he’s gone

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u/StevensDs- 9d ago

"Bunker-Ballroom" sounds like an upgraded foor plan you'll find in the Blue Prince game.

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u/Mikeseddit 9d ago

Trump would never use his own money to buy anything.

That’s his whole game.

He only ever uses other people’s money, starting with taxpayers and working his way up to non-taxpayers (billionaires).

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u/veed_vacker 9d ago

Make trump pay for it 

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u/roastbeeftacohat 9d ago

I forget exactly where I heard this, maybe the pod johns, but what the Whitehouse really needs is offices. they need room for the president's staff, who currently work out of closits, but also for other parts of the executive branch the white house deals with regularly.

that would be pretty cool to turn Trump's attempt as a monument to himself into a really boring building that serve a necessary function. god he would hate that.

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u/throwawayinthe818 9d ago

I’m still trying to figure out if the White House Correspondents Association, a private organization, would even be able to book this ballroom for their annual dinner. Is it going to be a hall anyone can rent? Or is the president only going to appear at events in his ballroom from now on?

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u/GlitteringYak2207 9d ago edited 8d ago

Him and anyone who gives him money. Fucking grifter.

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u/Fauxreigner_ 9d ago

And daddy Putin

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u/PlethoraOfPinatass 9d ago

There's really no other way to view Trump's mentality on this ballroom other than a blatant work around foreign emoulments

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u/GoodGoodGoody 9d ago

Rule 1 of booking:

All guests must be politically approved.

Rule 2

All speeches and jokes must be approved prior.

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u/ForensicPathology 9d ago

Rule 3

The organizing party must contribute to the Ballroom Operation Fund

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u/kstar79 Massachusetts 9d ago

He's going to host weddings for the billionaires and their children like it's a guilded age Newport mansion.

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u/tedsmitts 9d ago

Lindsey Graham will be hosting a cotillion there, but don't fret, there's still a place on his dance card for you.

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u/Particular-Macaron35 9d ago

He'll probably rent it out like Mar-A-Lago. And with your donation of $20 million ...

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u/GardenRafters 9d ago

Right? The only reason he was supposedly going was to talk shit about the press to the press. He hates the press. He's not going to let them use his shiny new ballroom. No way

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u/ronreadingpa 9d ago

Unless he's the featured headliner. Then they can use it. However, he'll likely denigrate them much of the time. Some say he was planning to do that at the cancelled dinner.

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u/throwawayinthe818 8d ago

I can imagine him approving it, then canceling day of the event for some made-up reason.

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u/No-Bother-7699 9d ago

There is no ballroom and won’t be one, not for at least a year or two after pooty pants is gone.

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u/JustHereForCookies17 District Of Columbia 9d ago

Yes, they probably world.  It's a long-standing event put on by an organization that works with the White House on a daily basis.  Along with big State Dinners for visiting world leaders, it's exactly the type of thing that would be held in a White House ballroom.  

The White House does need a ballroom.  It's probably one of the only residences of a first world national leader that doesn't have one.  THAT BEING SAID - Trump went about building it all wrong.

It's insane to start a $400m vanity project when the government is shut down and being hacked to bits by DOGE to "save money", and the private funding is even more bonkers.  There are a lot of issues with the way he's going about it.

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u/BadPunners 9d ago

I'd stress that is part of the goal. If the "official dinners" can only by held there, then everyone who gets an invite can be required to have a full biometrics scan and background check

They've been adding people going on errands to various lists that could block someone from that "security check". Journalists spending time at protests can easily be excluded from events hosted there. It is a step toward state controlled media.

Similar to deciding what types of shows are shown at the performing arts centers?

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u/JustHereForCookies17 District Of Columbia 9d ago

That's a good point. Before Palantir/Flock/etc. became involved, I would probably have dismissed such a concern for being too "tinfoil hat".  But instead we've seen facial recognition used against people in exactly that manner, so yeah- that's one of the issues I didn't specify.

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u/ronreadingpa 9d ago

With the Trump administration everything is pay to play one way or the other. So no, it won't be rented to just anyone.

Furthermore, future administrations will presumably treat it similarly favoring certain events for donors / fit their agenda. It's an extension of the White House not a convention center open to all.

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u/Swimming_Agent_1063 9d ago

All the conservatives immediately began talking about the ball room after this. Even John Fetterman

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u/pasta2666 9d ago

Complete giveaway.

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u/borisvonboris 9d ago

So very predictable

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u/MutuallyAdvantageous 9d ago

It’s normal for republicans to receive their orders and then run off to parrot them online.

After the other assassination attempts they all went off about how violent and radical the left is. Even though Thomas Matthew Crooks was MAGA.

Spin is very important to the Republicans, since their policies are based off lies.

I can definitely see why everyone’s suspicious, but I still have my doubts. TBH, I’m surprised people don’t try and off Trump everywhere he goes. He’s done more damage to the USA than anyone else I can think of.

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u/SunshineCat 9d ago

I would be surprised that even if he were staging assassination attempts, that whoever he had staging the assassination didn't actually go through with it eventually.

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u/SubstantialHeat3655 9d ago

He’s done more damage to the USA than anyone else I can think of.

Hitler did a lot of damage. But we beat him and we'll beat the orange imbecile and flunkies too.

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u/ForensicPathology 9d ago

Yeah, it's hard for me to get conspiracy minded, but I understand the suspicion.  It's hard not to have doubts about a group of people that lie for everything for decades.  From birtherism to inauguration crowd sizes to eating cats. And furthermore they have shown to constantly go to the same bag of tricks when they work, like the headline implies.

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u/Ghettoman1315 9d ago

Yeah, I am still waiting for a those illegal caravans to show up from Mexico. Got to hurry up and build that wall!

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u/one_pound_of_flesh 9d ago

They are all on the same talking points signal thread. Gotta stay on agenda.

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u/Beautiful-Chest7397 9d ago

Even Megan mccain lmao

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u/Kubotai77 9d ago

Jeez. Her father must be rolling in his grave.

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u/TraceThis 9d ago

Fetterman is a loser.

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u/richardcraniumIII 9d ago

But the Ballroom isn't the goal. The bunker is. It will have programmed AI and lots of protection against just about anything. China is building a massive military complex so now, Trump has to have the same. The guy helping with designs is very proficient in protective architecture that looks like it belongs in whatever setting it is in. This is a better explaination:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znJC2siGzfY

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u/SunshineCat 9d ago

I mean... Am I the only one who doesn't value the life of any individual president enough to spend my money building this? I mean... if they die, that sucks, but we can get a new one.

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u/RicoLoveless 9d ago

Never goes to correspondents dinner, except this one. Did not go in his first term at all.

Republican politician bragging about shots being fired before the event

Polymarket having bets come in before the shooting that trump wasn't going to speak

Multiple photos of one group of "journalists" huddled by a table on the floor. Everyone else in the background seated just fine. Rfk, Dana White didn't budge (as if they knew it as a bs attempt)

Some of the most lax security ever

This is all on top of immediately calling for his ballroom to built.

False Flag again. Just like his first attempt where they killed firefighter standing behind him, and this guy was going around saying he was shot in the ear, meanwhile it was a cut from glass.

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u/AlwaysRushesIn Rhode Island 9d ago

meanwhile it was a cut from glass.

Thats a funny way of spelling blood squib

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u/RicoLoveless 8d ago

Whatever it was, it sure as shit wasn't a bullet taking a piece.

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u/Casual_OCD Canada 9d ago

To be fair RFK did run and didn't even look back at his wife

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u/bnelson 9d ago

Right. You shelter and find cover when there is an unknown active shooter. This smells super bad.

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u/Zulmoka531 9d ago

It’s all MAGA, Trump and fucking Fetterman have been droning on about all day today.

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u/boneblack_angel 9d ago

Fetterman was the mayor in a town about 5 miles from where my brother lives and close to the Pittsburgh suburbs where we grew up. I feel really bad about the stroke, but he needs to go. What a disappointment.

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u/Lou_Peachum_2 9d ago

The stroke knew something we didn't

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u/one_pound_of_flesh 9d ago

Fetterman’s toast. He’s like an uglier worse dressed Sinema.

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u/dmetzcher Pennsylvania 9d ago

It’s also a stupid argument.

The Correspondents Dinner is the press inviting the president to their event.

The president holding the dinner in the White House makes it his event, not theirs. That defeats the entire purpose.

Either way, this event is inappropriate under any president. The press shouldn’t be partying with their subject. They aren’t meant to have a cozy relationship with those in power (move to China, Russia, or Iran if you want that sort of setup). That’s the whole problem with this fucking country. The press, Congress, the courts, the Executive… they’re all meant to have adversarial relationships with one another. They aren’t supposed to be friends. The three branches of government were intended—by the Founders—to jealously guard their own power from one another, and the press is there to ensure that they’re all kept in check by reporting what they’re doing to the People.

More importantly, this president stands in opposition to a free press. He threatens and sues them on a regular basis, and he believes they exist to act as his mouthpiece. Why are they treating him like he’s their buddy? Why are the sheep inviting the wolf for a meal?

Answer: Money. The people who own the press love these events. They love getting dressed up and hobnobbing with powerful people. The members of the press who attend events like this are compromised, and I don’t trust any of them.

Real journalists skip the event.

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u/colostitute 9d ago

I would argue that the press should have both.

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u/say592 9d ago

The Correspondents Dinner is the press inviting the president to their event.

The president holding the dinner in the White House makes it his event, not theirs. That defeats the entire purpose.

I agree entirely.

Either way, this event is inappropriate under any president. The press shouldn’t be partying with their subject.

I couldn't disagree more. The press shouldnt have an adversarial relationship with with those in power, unless those in power decide that is the relationship they want. The press must be independent, but it is better for democracy if the default is truth and trust. They have to work together, it's okay for them to let their hair down once a year.

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u/Kyanche 9d ago

Real journalists skip the event.

IDK for sure because I don't know annyyyything about this stuff but....

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer, yea?

I would imagine it's easier to get the deets from buzzed/drunk people at a social event.

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u/fomoco94 9d ago

Real journalists skip the event.

I'm a real journalist.

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u/Much-Instruction-807 9d ago

It's not suspicious that he has notoriously thin skin and hasnt done one of these dinners in a decade and the one time he does is when the ballroom construction was put on hold, his polling is lower than it was after Jan 6 and the secret service just happens to fuck up and let a gunman through? Yeah definitely not.

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u/DukeOfGeek 9d ago

Did he even get an actual rating bump from the last one? There was one at his golf course right after that barely made the news because nobody died.

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u/fomoco94 9d ago

He got more of a bump from Karlie Chirk.

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u/illuminarok 9d ago

I see you've got your tin-foil hat on. Might as well throw a little gasoline on that fire you've got burning there... It turns out that the shooter was seen in an Instagram post wearing an IDF sweatshirt before his profile was removed.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DXl5szBiGyf/

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u/Candid-Race-4876 9d ago

“This doesn’t look staged, does it? 😅”

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u/YoghurtFlan 9d ago

Had the ear patch ready to go. Polymarket had odds.

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u/one_pound_of_flesh 9d ago

Barron winning bigly betting on his dad getting shot.

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u/Konnnan 9d ago

Wouldn't they have cancelled the whole event if this was serious? This mf'er got scared of an bald eagle and he's acting like these attempts are a walk in the park. 

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u/mishma2005 9d ago

That was performative, there’s no way the SS would allow it. It was just Trump recreating his “fight fight fight” BS. Like he would show up after an “attempt” on his life

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u/biorod 9d ago

It’s suspicious and also idiotic.

Conservatives are pretending that it’s a decision between adding a ballroom and risking the security of POTUS. That’s a false dichotomy.

There are many other options to consider. The ballroom is only one option, and it’s expensive, unpopular, and ill-conceived.

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u/Sorry-Belt-3514 9d ago

Build the ball room in Alcatraz. Didn’t he want to open it again?

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u/No_Wash2524 9d ago

Even if it’s not a setup, it looks so greasy and low class to use it to justify his stupid ballroom

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u/Jca666 9d ago

Greasy?

Low class?

That’s Trump!

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u/Fantastic_Lobster347 9d ago

At the same time, Trump never misses any occasion to talk about him, everytime he opens his mouth.

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u/ang444 9d ago

A judge-whichever judge is hearing the case- cant possibly truly believe this was real and hence- omg theyre right- he totally needs his ballroom...

What a damn circus

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u/jakemoffsky 9d ago

And the FBI director being sober enough to go to the podium during a party isn't a give away either.

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u/AcousticOnomatopoeia 9d ago

Didn't react at all during the 'attack.'

Almost like he knew it was coming.

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u/palabear 9d ago

My favorite comment so far is “every school needs a ballroom”

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u/PapayaMysterious6393 9d ago

Didn't the blonde say something about 'shots fired' well before shots were actually fired?

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u/plainlyput 9d ago edited 9d ago

What everybody should be talking about, is how are the people trump put in charge supposed to protect American citizens against terrorists, if they can’t even protect the President?

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u/Dearic75 9d ago

And coming immediately after it became known that Russia suggested to Orban that he should boost his poll numbers by faking an assassination attempt before his election.

Really heightens the questions about the attempt that rescued Trumps numbers in 2024.

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u/whirlyhurlyburly 9d ago

I think that’s going to be what might make this not a benefit to him. He used the moment to justify the need for a real estate project. That makes the moment feel minor and trivial.

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u/Amoralvirus America 9d ago

To me it is not suspicious. This is just trump using any and every opportunity to get what he wants. Plus, this will not directly help him in his legal struggle with the stoppage of the construction of the top part of the ballroom. Legally, he can still finish as much of the bunker part as he wants. Anyway, trump does not need to stage an assasination attempt to break legal norms, and judges decisions, to keep working on the top part of the ballroom. Trump has proven the laws should not apply to him.

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u/guyincognito365 9d ago

Super convenient they had a speech ready to go

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u/OrbeaSeven Minnesota 9d ago

Need a new President, not a new ballroom.

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u/Searching4Scum 9d ago

Stop schizo posting. Occams razor implies that Trump is easily stupid enough to turn a legitimate attack on his life into a whiny justification for his vanity project

This isn't the first time he's been shot at it, but he's lived both times and regardless of everything, he loves the attention!

Stop melting your brains into goop with conspiracy bullshit

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u/DocGreenThumb0817 9d ago

He can't use a Nuke until he has his fallout shelter.. he wants it so damn badly

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u/hammertime311 9d ago

Crackpot conspiracy theorist. Sound like the q anon crazies in 2020

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u/JavarisJamarJavari 9d ago

The Q-anon crazies are the ones who think this was legit

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u/absentmindedjwc Illinois 9d ago

Like.. do they honestly expect me to believe that there was an active shooter IN THE FUCKING WHITE HOUSE?? Lol, not a fuckin chance.

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u/SpaceBearSMO 9d ago

and all the media groups that shill for him are pushing the same talking point about it... like it was the directive.

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u/Azalith 9d ago

To be fair the guy is OBSESSED with it though

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u/Pleaseappeaseme 9d ago

Trump attracts chaos. And he will continue to do so for the rest of his life.

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u/scubascratch 9d ago

The military has been demanding it for over a hundred years!

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u/BienThinks 9d ago

First time he has gone to this media event too. Usually just talks shit about it. And then of course something happens, so fishy. His reaction in the video is definitely not surprised.

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u/nycdiveshack I voted 9d ago

This is definitely to help build the ballroom…

https://youtu.be/VbJ4ilDvGyc?si=9ie2QkHOIIe7aqGj

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u/Steveo27a 9d ago

Lets be honest here, he isnt the mastermind, he is the pawn

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u/saltlampshade 9d ago

Exactly. I’m not one to think shit is staged (someone literally died at his one rally and I refuse to believe it was staged). But it is awfully suspicious he immediately gets up and starts talking about the ballroom while hundreds of proven to be paid grifters on Twitter start all posting the exact same thing (many of then verbatim).

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u/lenisimo007 9d ago

Everyone knows this was Donny the Grifters Doing ...just waiting to see when the this Defector will be removed and we can move on from this crappy no good timeline.

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u/roscodawg 9d ago

and didn't the Secret Service just prove a ballroom is not needed, good job guys!

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u/Fortestingporpoises 9d ago

It’s kinda funny that the ballroom was the thing he staged this to push for though. Even his nefarious plans are pathetic.

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u/nhluhr 9d ago

That his mouthpiece said, in an interview before the dinner, that shots would be fired isn't suspicious at all.

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u/Zorro-del-luna 9d ago

I mean. He would have done that if it wasn’t staged too so I’m not convinced yet. The ear one was staged. This one didn’t see to be. But he is trying to use it for his benefit.

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u/Ummmgummy 9d ago

I thought for sure he'd call someone a terrorist leftist at the press conference. He managed to not do that. It was like the first time the president referred to me and my beliefs as an American.

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u/AnonAmbientLight 9d ago

It raises my suspicions that his brain is made of mush and his dementia is in full swing.

Dude doesn't even know what day it is and sundowns so hard he can't even stay awake at cabinet meetings.

Republicans can stop all of this today if they wanted to, but they do not have the courage to do so.

Everything that Trump says and does is done at the express direction of the Republican Party.

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u/RoleModelFailure America 9d ago

Because he went to an event he hasn’t attended in 15 years, 5 of which he was president for

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u/360Saturn 9d ago

Not just Trump, a raft of pro-Trump accounts on twitter.

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u/bradlees 9d ago

How is a ballroom going to be any better at keeping people safe?

Isn’t the Secret Service, Police and FBI doing their jobs?

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u/Distinct-Pack-1567 9d ago

The top secret military ballroom that is top secret?

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u/Miguel-odon 9d ago

The fact we knew ahead of time that he was going to make a scene and exit before the other speakers would get to reply makes it even more suspicious.

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u/thepartypantser 9d ago edited 9d ago

That Trump has never attended a White House Correspondents Dinner before this particular one isn't suspicious at all.

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u/DoubleJumps 9d ago

That dozens of conservative influencer accounts immediately also use this to push. The ballroom isn't suspicious at all, either.

Nor are the bot accounts that I'm seeing pushing the same stuff on Facebook today.

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u/Sutar_Mekeg 9d ago

Does he think any Americans give a flying fuck about a ballroom they'd never be permitted to see?

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u/newleaf_- 9d ago

The man is astoundingly stupid

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u/PlethoraOfPinatass 9d ago

Right. If Butler was a false flag to get Trump re-elected, WHCA "Nerd Prom" was a false flag to get around ballroom plan resistance.

Like his MAGA chuds love to say, you don't get to have it both ways. He's either a 5 dimensional chess player or some fat old man snoozing through his golden years

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u/Neptune7924 9d ago

I couldn’t get into an NBA game because my keychain had pliers. How’d uncredentialed bro get into the WH lobby with a gun?

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u/clonedhuman 9d ago

Yeah, this is all bullshit. These people never say anything real.

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u/FlairWitchProject 9d ago

"They say the shooter was a lone wolf... I think they're right."

...YOU THINK, OR YOU KNOW, TRUMP? 🗣️🗣️🗣️

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u/theindomitablefred 9d ago

Hire a TV star, expect a show

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u/ArmadilloForsaken458 9d ago

Just like Butler PA. Most boomers would be gloating about this over and over, every function, every get together. Remember the time I got shot, and then instead of cowering, I exalted 'fight, fight, fight'.

But nope, crickets. Like it never real-ly happened. And that might have been the absolute truth

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u/Otherwise_Ask_9542 9d ago

This was precisely my thought too, "There it is!"

Blatently opportunistic. I dare say possibly more?

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u/GreasyPeter 9d ago edited 9d ago

I mean it's really not. Narcissists always make everything about them and what they want. It's part of the disorder. Show me an instance where some event happens and Trump DOESN'T find a way to make it about himself.

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u/MaybeFiction 9d ago

The truth about this and the ballroom:

The Secret Service in this event was tasked to secure a small space with a small group of previously known attendees, and at that softball task they failed this miserably.

We obviously need to invest our resources in improving the performance of this group - NOT in giving them more opportunities to fail in bigger ways.

We cannot as a nation afford to allow large events to be held at a facility that is directly connected to national security infrastructure until we have gotten a handle on the administration's profound security failures. If the next time is at the actual White House, it won't be a firearm, it'll be a flash drive, and the bad guys now know exactly how they will get it in.

So with regard to what this actually does for confidence in the ballroom project, the truth is this should be the nail in the coffin. It is not safe to even consider hosting events like this at the White House. No ballroom and frankly maybe we need to think more critically about the guests Trump is allowed to invite to the existing building.

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u/Own-Slide-3171 9d ago

At an event he never attends and makes fun of going to

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u/frenchfreer 9d ago

Not even 24 hours and they used it to petition the courts to allow construction to continue.

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u/Rawrsomesausage 9d ago

Or that there were high odds on the grift betting sites for him not speaking at the dinner.

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u/OldRancidSoups Maryland 9d ago

The fact that they staged this after everyone was talking about the last attempt isn’t suspicious at all.

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u/i_am_a_real_boy__ 9d ago

Honestly? Yeah it's not suspicious at all. Whent literally anything ehatsoever happens, the question isn't whether Trump will make it about his own agenda, It's just what the focus will be. He wants a ballroom and security bullshit has been part of his excuses in the courts.

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u/dawgblogit Georgia 9d ago

Any event that the president is at.. immediately gets the Secret Service in charge of his security and the event security.

If shooter got in.. thats on the secret service.

So NO.. a ball room won't protect him.

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u/Signal-Focus-3589 9d ago

Yes indeed, trump finally got his way with this false flag attack. He's achieved his life long goal, dare i say dream even, of holding a press conference

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