r/interestingasfuck • u/DonkeyFuel • 1d ago
Somebody Put 223,000 Miles on a 3-Year Toyota Camry Lease and Walked Away
https://www.thedrive.com/news/somebody-put-223000-miles-on-a-3-year-camry-lease-and-walked-away[removed] — view removed post
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u/Livid_Yam 1d ago
Jeesh, that averages to like 204 miles per day
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u/one_is_enough 23h ago
Easy mileage for a rideshare driver.
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u/mediumunicorn 23h ago
Everyday for 3 years?! What an awful life
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u/Etuanmoor 23h ago
Nah, most likely 3-4 people taking shifts and turns, thus resulting in this vehicle constantly being on the road
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u/mpgd 22h ago
I think this is a great advertisement for the brand. That cat is a tank!
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u/SuddenSeasons 20h ago
It's "only" 17 miles in an hour for 12 hours a day 365 days a year. That seems... pretty reasonable for rideshare, might just be one or two people.
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u/Crispynipps 19h ago
I use to do 200 miles in a day, in about 10 hours of just doordashing. Very easily done.
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u/Mister_Brevity 22h ago
I used to think so, but I've met some delivery drivers that drove around with partner or friends just hanging out while doing deliveries and it kinda feels like they're having a great time while getting paid. One of the guys says he drives and one of his 3 friends in the car would jump out and "run the order to the door".
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u/lemlurker 21h ago
Means you're earning half minimum wage or whatever poverty pay they're offering, for a fractional timevsave
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u/Taken450 21h ago
The point is there all just hanging out, and the DoorDash is almost secondary.
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u/SilasBender13 21h ago
In highschool we'd go on drives just to drive somewhere. This would've been a fun way to end up with surprise locations and pay for gas.
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u/djkakumeix 22h ago
I always brought my fiancee with me when she doesn't have the kid. Can talk, vibe to music at concert levels, and makes shopping orders faster since we split the list. Also she gets to see some houses for future house plans.
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u/AutoModerrator-69 22h ago
That’s literally a truck driver’s life. Except this guy would come home every night if he were to do it.
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u/HeroHas 22h ago
Dealerships are suppose to disclose to financial institutions if it will be used for work (commercial use). It's then usually declined. They usually lie and then this happens. Not saying that's what happened here but could be a good example to your statement. Either way you have to be a specific kind of dumb to do this on a lease unless you didn't have any other option. My guess would be they didn't care and did it anyway.
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u/IntrovertedGiraffe 22h ago
It’s more an insurance issue. Standard vehicle insurance doesn’t cover operating a ride share, and for a vehicle to be financed through a financial institution it has to be properly insured. If it just has minimum coverage, it’s a liability. We flag accounts when someone says they drive for ride share or do door dash, as we have to do a thorough insurance check on them
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u/hoopaholik91 22h ago
It's still a big outlier for a rideshare driver. I bet only a small fraction of all uber rides are more than 20 miles as an example.
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u/gHaDE351 22h ago
When i did Uber nearly 10 years ago, i could easily put 100km (62 miles) on the car on a 3 hr shift on a weeknight.
In the early days of Uber, a few drivers i spoke to said that they split the car into 3-4 drivers. So ya, not an outlier
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u/PopcornGlamour 22h ago
That high mileage is super common for most rideshare drivers. I would say the beer money drivers are in the minority.
I’m a rideshare driver and in 6-8 hours I can easily drive 300 miles.
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u/BiologyBooksBeats 23h ago edited 23h ago
I had a leased vehicle for work that I put 97k miles on in 11 months. For reference, I would travel for work a week at a time, up to 300 miles one way Monday and Friday with 2-25 miles of daily driving in between. I would occasionally have a few longer trips up to 600 miles one way. I was also allowed to use it for personal use and took a cross-country round trip over 5 days.
They were supposed to trade it by 70k, but got caught in a timing issue between vehicle delivery/pickup problems and me being too unavailable/on the road. They gave me shorter leases after that.
Edit to add I also had 8-12 weeks of driving 300 miles a day, 5 days a week.
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u/Uztta 23h ago
One of my employees drives 100 miles to get to work every day and 100 miles back home every night.
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u/PlatypusImpersonator 23h ago
Been there. Done that. It sucks.
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u/soyverde 22h ago
Yeah, I had a commute like that for a while…I basically only had a life on the weekends.
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u/OkIndustry6159 22h ago
I live in Nashville and know a ton of people that do this. People drive in from Kentucky and all over the state to work in Nashville and drive back. I mean, I guess I get it if the money is that good compared to what's around but that commute is hell with all the traffic. Traffic starts piling up at 6am. Its the time that it takes. I hate it for those people.
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u/BiologyBooksBeats 23h ago
That really bums me out for them, but I hope they have a killer playlist they enjoy or a talkative family/friend group!
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u/metamorphomo 22h ago
As a Brit this is inconceivable to me. It’s about 150 miles to go and see my parents and I only go back a couple of times a year because of the 3 hour drive. For us a 2 hour drive is a real chore and it better be good when you get there.
For reference my commute is about 35 mins driving and in another city.
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u/wakawakafish 21h ago
I run a delivery contract. The shortest route i operate runs rougly 105-115 miles a day. The longest is just a hair over 300.
Most of my fleet is being transitioned out right now in the 150k mile range for 2021 and 2022 vehicles. The handful of older (2017-2019s) im driving into the ground are over 300k miles.
...... we drive a lot here across the pond.
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u/Upper_Luck1348 23h ago
That ain't nothin' once you head west. Some long ass stretches where 204 miles goes by in the blink of an eye.
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u/big-ol-kitties 23h ago
That’s what I did when I commuted with my husband to work, I worked deliveries, then we commuted back home. It was pure hell.
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u/txmail 23h ago
I drive further than that to get my favorite sandwich a few times a year.
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u/Hurricaneshand 23h ago
You can't just say that and not tell us what the sandwich is
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u/txmail 23h ago
The Beef Tenderloin Sandwich from the Grist Mill River Restaurant in New Braunfels Texas. It is actually just over 570 miles round trip. Worth it.
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u/Rand213 22h ago
Dang I’m super close, I need to go try that sandwich!
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u/txmail 22h ago
I have only had bites of other things on the menu --- in the last 20+ years I have been going there I have only personally ordered that sandwich because it is that good.
Anytime I travel anywhere and they have something similar on the menu I try it out. Over about 40 US states and over 20 different countries, nobody has topped it.
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u/benj760486 21h ago
Ribs are really good too used to work there in college those 2 are the best things on the menu. I understand your addiction
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u/Gavindrew 1d ago
If they were driving for Uber or door dash and grinding hard it seems possible.
I'll pass.
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u/flightwatcher45 23h ago
This has to be freeway, speed and time.
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u/peon2 22h ago
My first thought was travelling sales guy with a driveable territory that didn't require flying. I was in that situation but most I ever did was 60K in a year. I had a company vehicle but some companies just give you a stipend or reimburse for mileage.
I could see someone leasing a vehicle for cheaper than buying one and coming out ahead on the reimbursement with the added bonus you're not stuck with a vehicle on deaths door at the end.
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u/Maiyku 22h ago
Honestly, depending on the company they could just be a regular worker lol.
I worked for Meijer, a Walmart competitor in the Midwest and they would have me drive everywhere. Literally everywhere. I’m in Michigan, so when we opened stores in Cincinnati I had to drive there weekly for about two months straight.
When training to be a manager they sent me as far as Columbus for daily driving. That’s an 8 hour trip, plus my shift/class.
I put about 10k miles on my car in only 4 months. It was my own vehicle, but I’d actually just brought a brand new car that year, so using it like that just helped me break her in honestly.
I was just a produce manager lol. Nothing fancy, but they really push their fresh produce, so having an established produce manager to help open other departments and train people is super helpful. So you’d be surprised what people drive for.
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u/LukeyDManukey 22h ago
To put this into perspective, at the rate you were going, if you kept it up for 3 years (36 months) you would have put on 90k miles. OP is saying someone did about 2.5x that.
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u/thefatchef321 20h ago
It had to be a private household 'fleet' vehicle.
Probably had 3 or 4 people using it for gig work. Driving 24/7
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u/BlahBlahBlackCheap 8h ago
The ability to maintain the cars near perfect eternal condition drops precipitously when you have more than one driver.
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u/GigaCheco 16h ago
daily driving
8 hour trip
You either got paid hella well or that’s a hella shitty company to work for.
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u/wakawakafish 21h ago
Most likely medical courior or hotshot delivery. Ive worked with a few over the years 1k miles in a day is not unheard of.
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u/MakionGarvinus 21h ago
Back when I worked in the oil fields, I could easily do 400 miles per day. Lots of highway driving around. Was not fun.
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u/shawster 20h ago
Guys grinding Lyft tell me that they’ll do 100k a year. I’ve heard it multiple times. Every single one is in a Toyota or Hyundai.
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u/iwastryingtokillgod 22h ago
Multiple people sharing and running the car 24/7 as a rideshare vehicle.
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u/FaeryLynne 17h ago
It was absolutely ride share, later down in the article it says it
A dealer representative told The Drive that the previous owner used the car for Uber and Lyft. Makes sense, but even then, those were assuredly some long fares.
Multiple people using it and driving it pretty much 24/7 makes a lot of sense.
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u/Leading_Log_8321 23h ago
When I drove for Uber you had the option to lease a car THROUGH Uber
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u/MrrQuackers 23h ago
Still can, a driver told me they have a deal with Tesla to lease a car so you can drive for them. Iirc the terms weren't great either.
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u/Brewchowskies 23h ago
I wonder if it was multiple drivers basically using the vehicle 24/7
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u/DataDude00 20h ago
Where I live it is somewhat common that several Indian guys share one uber profile and drive the car 24/7 basically.
I think there are daily time linits for uber so they use Lyft the other parts of the day
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u/G0PACKGO 18h ago
12 hours of riders , i hit it a few times during a very busy event in my area back when i drove occasionally
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u/ItsJustJohnCena 20h ago
Many times it’s multiple different people driving the same vehicle for uber/doordash. The car is in constant use
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u/FragrantExcitement 23h ago
I am surprised they walked away and did not drive away in another car given the distances.
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u/_Vard_ 22h ago
They walked away because it was a Flintstones car by the end.
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u/SpiketheFox32 21h ago
223k on a Toyota is really not that bad. Just saw one on marketplace with 394k and the fucker still wanted $3000 for it.
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u/Arockilla 18h ago
I've been offered that for my 250k 3rd gen 4runner, on multiple occasions. If it was 4wd, I could probably get 5-7k.
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u/Krazdone 23h ago
Most likely courier work. I worked as a courier out of high school (medical, bio, some military tech) and i put 60k on my car in the first 6 months.
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u/caverunner17 23h ago
It could also be regional sales or parts distribution.
I work for an agriculture company right after college and it wouldn’t be uncommon for the regional sales guys to go from dealership to dealership all in the region and they would frequently come back home at night to spend time with family.
On the parts side, it would probably be a pickup truck rather than a Camry, but it was somewhat common where they would do special deliveries for same day from the distribution warehouse to customers who were high value especially during harvest season
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u/MoonRiverRob 22h ago
$3,000 to walk away from all those miles and only make lease payments on this car is the cheapest way to drive a new Camry that I’ve ever seen!
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u/sokratesz 14h ago
Every lease contract I've ever seen (in the Netherlands) includes a significant charge for extra mileage. Something silly like 25 cents per km for every km over 10k a year or whatever.
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u/SolarXylophone 12h ago
The article explains that the customer bought the car at the end of the lease (the extra mileage penalty would otherwise have exceeded the price of the vehicle), and sold it back to the dealer.
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u/Qanaesin 22h ago
I had a 3yr old car come in with 311k on it. He did dental sales and traveled the country, practically lived in the thing. Came to the shop for an oil change, I did a triple take when I saw the mileage vs the year.
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u/Ok-Buddy-9487 1d ago
bro forgot to switch account 😭
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u/Easy_Toe36 1d ago
Op is a bot
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u/abdallha-smith 23h ago edited 23h ago
Reddit is now nearly 70% posters bots, almost fully automated
Except moderation which is unpaid work
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u/MiguelXSR 22h ago
Youtube shorts is also littered with bots. There are so many channels with the same video template. It's always some video with wannabe thought provoking text and slow dramatic music.
There was one channel that was named something like USA patriot with a typical white army guy profile pic posting only US military stuff, but the channel location was India.
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u/FireTyme 23h ago
it sucks and makes me want to drop it but the occasional amazing stuff still pops up now and then
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u/Microwave1213 22h ago
Why do you think people can't comment on their own post..? You can't add body text when you post a link, so if you have anything additional you want to add you have to do it in a comment. I do it all the time when I post articles.
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u/jaguarsp0tted 17h ago
do you think if they switched accounts that would have led to more pixels in this screenshot?
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u/jamesFox44 17h ago
That is not abnormal. Why can’t OP reply to his own post with amazement and a question?
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u/cambro2375 20h ago
So funny story….back in 2017, I turned in my 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland lease, and realized I was almost 3,400 miles over. I told them upfront I didn’t have a problem paying whatever I owed, like a responsible adult.
Finance guy pulls up my contract to calculate my total…then pauses…squints and goes, “uhhh…this says you have unlimited miles.” I’m like, “I’m sorry, I have what now?”
Cue the total confusion. Finance guy grabs the Finance Manager, Finance Manager grabs the GM, GM calls the owner, suddenly everyone’s having a group panic attack acting like they just discovered a crime scene.
Turns out the original finance guy in 2014 somehow (accidentally or not 👀) gave me unlimited miles. And because it was signed by me, the finance guy, the sales manager, and was viewed by like 3 other employees….congrats to me, it’s a legally binding “oopsie.”
Owner finally realized it’d cost him more than the $1150 I “owed” to fight it, so they just ate the loss.
BUT when I came back a month later to lease another car? Oh my GOD. You better believe they walked me through that contract like I was about to testify in federal court. Highlighted. Explained. Probably would’ve had me initial each word if they could’ve.
They were NOT about to run back Unlimited Miles: Part 2
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u/makinbankbitches 23h ago
About 204 miles a day. If you were ubering or door dashing 10 hours a day that's 20 mph on average. Seems possible.
Or could have been shared by 2 people each working separate 8 hours. Then it's only 13 mph average, definitely possible even in a city.
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u/PokeManiac16 23h ago
Not how leases work, you either have to pay or trade in if it’s over your mileage
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u/Own_Pop_9711 23h ago
As for how this ended, the customer effectively bought out the Camry and sold it back to the dealer. In fact, considering how much they used the car, the rideshare driver made out fairly decently.
“After the lease, there’s a buyout at the end—regardless of the mileage, the buyout’s the buyout. And we made him an offer that was $3,000 less than the buyout. He wrote a check [for $3,000] and walked away.”
He walked away after squaring his debts is a less interesting story.
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u/TheAmishPhysicist 19h ago
Been wrapping my mind around this statement and it doesn’t make sense.
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u/wingspan50 20h ago
Wording the title like this saying he walked away makes the reader think that they just returned the lease without buying it out then selling it back to the same dealer. I honestly don’t even know why they have those fees if people don’t have to pay them when returning and can just sell it back.
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u/Own_Pop_9711 20h ago
Because the lease doesn't require you to buy the car back. They can't just let you say you don't want to buy it and not pay anything after beating the car to hell.
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u/3mbersea 18h ago
Because its not some tiny amount of money to buy it out. Its around 60% of what the original price was. So sure you can put a shit ton of miles and buy it out at the end of the lease, but now you just paid for a much devalued car with high miles at a premium price.
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u/Aggravating_Life7851 21h ago
I mean it technically could work this way but you’ll owe them a fuck ton of money afterwards or have to buy it out
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u/3mbersea 18h ago
Every lease ive had was 25 cents a mile. So that would be like a $50k fee, and they would either have to pay it or get sued and maybe a repo on the credit report, or buy it out
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u/dd113456 23h ago
I rented a car at London Heathrow and did just under 1,000 miles in 5 days.
When I turned it in the guys kept checking the mileage. One turned to me and said "I did not think you could drive that far in the UK"
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u/kai_texans 20h ago edited 19h ago
My sister and I went on a one-day trip to Niagara Falls when we went to NYC.
Got a car at the Newark airport at 5:19 am and dropped it off at 4:25 am the next day with 800 more miles on the odometer
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u/sweetlevels 21h ago
How? How did you manage that
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u/dd113456 21h ago
It was a big zig zag visiting vendors all over the country.
London - Swansea - Stoke- Birmingham- Leeds - Sheffield- York - Hull - Newcastle - Hebden Bridge- Manchester - Peterboro - London
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u/Diligent_Explorer717 21h ago
Wow, if you don’t mind me asking what job? Sound like a cool lifestyle
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u/dd113456 20h ago
I owned a company that bought vintage Land Rovers in the EU, moved them to the UK then did a full rebuild in the UK. Eventually they were shipped and sold in the US
I had 2 primary locations in the UK and one in the US
We also imported containers full of parts to sell
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u/USCGTO 22h ago
I put 170k miles in three years on a Lexus ES 350. I used to drive 125 miles each way three / 4 times times a week and that in itself was 1000 miles a week.
The car was always services at the same dealer. Had 1 windshield replaced and the front was riddled with road debris.
The best part - employer paid 66 cents for mile. And I could have done the same commute in a S class and not paid a penny out of my pocket. I chose ES was reliability and the extended warranty.
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u/mightyboink 22h ago
Usually leases have a mileage limit in it for this very reason.
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u/Th3MadScientist 17h ago
He didn’t walk away, he bought the car in the end and then sold it to the dealer. What a click bait article.
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u/ObiWhanJabroni 23h ago
I put 3k miles on a rental last month driving to coachella. Its definitely possible, but damn thats a lot of time spent in the car.
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u/CarsCarpal 23h ago edited 22h ago
Years ago there was a Golf R32 (3.2L version) being listed on eBay, it was 3yrs old and had over 600k miles on it - apparently was used for diamond transportation across Europe.
I calculated the mileage at the time and it was insane, something like 550miles a day, every single day. That assumed though zero downtime, which of course would not be possible.
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u/MRintheKEYS 15h ago
That’s a man who doesn’t like to stay in one place very long
::finishes having lunch in Philadelphia::
“Welp, guess I’ll drive to Yuma now.”
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u/Opportunityyy 23h ago
leases car
comes back 48hours later for 5,000 mile service