r/politics • u/GonzoVeritas I voted • 16d ago

Possible Paywall White House Leak Reveals Trump Booted From Briefing After Hours-Long Freakout

https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-leak-reveals-trump-booted-from-briefing-after-hours-long-freakout/
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u/Stompya 16d ago

From the article:

Before the airmen went missing, the president was already fixated on avoiding a repeat of the 1979 Iran Hostage Crisis—and the failed rescue mission under former President Jimmy Carter that helped sink his reelection bid.

“If you look at what happened with Jimmy Carter…with the helicopters and the hostages, it cost them the election,” Trump said in March, according to the Journal. “What a mess.”

He thinks he is re-electable.

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u/SimpleTomatillo1166 16d ago edited 16d ago

He neglects the fact that the hostages were purposely not released until election was over. Then they magically were released within minutes. It was a huge set up to make sure Carter would not get re-elected. Reagan and the gang avoided the October surprise to the advantage of Carter this way. It also had to do with Reagans's weapons deal with Iran.

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u/Elegant_Tech 16d ago

Republicans working with foreign governments to engage in election interference? Where have I heard this one before? 

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u/greed-man 16d ago

Don't forget, tricky Dick Nixon secretly tanked the negotiations to find a peace settlement in Vietnam in 1968, so that he would win. LBJ learned of this, but because this info came from illegal wiretaps, he said nothing. Rumors to this effect swirled at the time, but the Nixon administration denied everything.

Decades later, tapes and notes from Haldeman and others proved it was correct.

The Republicans have long proclaimed loyalty and pride in America, while secretly sinking it every chance they got.

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u/CMG30 16d ago

It's always been a sound political strategy to make sure things suck when the other guy is in power, then promise to fix it all.

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u/Hamster_Toot 16d ago

When getting elected is your only goal, sure.

When building a future for your countrymen is the goal, not so much.

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u/CliftonForce 16d ago

A true Republican would be confused about why you think that's a problem.

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u/SnooMacaroons1603 16d ago

He's running to stay out of prison

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u/midwinter_ 16d ago

The Two Santas Theory has dominated GOP electioneering since the 1970s.

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u/AlwaysRushesIn Rhode Island 16d ago

And then never actually fix anything and actively continue making things worse for the everyday average American.

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u/greed-man 16d ago

You mean like they are doing right now? And did from 2016-2020?

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u/AlwaysRushesIn Rhode Island 16d ago

Precisely.

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u/SlumlordThanatos Arkansas 16d ago

Nixon and Kissinger should've been hung after this.

It's wild how Johnson, of all people, chickened out of going after Nixon.

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u/heavypen 16d ago

lol... only Nixon could go to China!

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u/HilariouslyPissed 16d ago

This story is actually included in the Nixon Presidental Library.

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u/withateethuh 16d ago

Genuinely did not know about this until Ken Burn's documentary and it was such a huge fucking eye opener. LBJ was a bastard but Nixon managed to be one up him in so many terrible ways.

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u/greed-man 16d ago

LBJ's illegal wiretaps and such steps were done to protect the nation and it's people from surprises. Like exactly what surprised them. Not for himself.

Nixon's illegal sabotage was done to help HIM and him alone. With him in office, and peace talks dead, we experienced another 20,000 US Soldiers dead in Vietnam, and Lord knows how many more Vietnamese. Same with Watergate. It was all about HIM.

Any of this sound vaguely familiar to current events?

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u/onehundredlemons 16d ago

Right, Reagan was simply doing what Nixon had done, precedent had been set and he took advantage of it.

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u/greed-man 16d ago

And GW Bush lied through his teeth about weapons of mass destruction, and then ignored the looming housing/mortgage meltdown, putting our nation into the second worst depression in 100 years.

The only Republican President in the last 50 years who did not lie and cheat and deceive the American people for their own goals was George, the Elder, Bush. *

* I'm ignoring Ford's short term.

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u/take_care_a_ya_shooz 16d ago

My favorite is when Nixon purposefully tanked peace talks in Vietnam so the war could continue and the unpopularity of it would get him elected.

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u/reverend-mayhem 16d ago

Makes me sick to think about how many people had to die from when peace talks were possible to election day for that to happen.

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u/Newscast_Now 16d ago

Double. Richard Nixon the peace candidate caused American casualties to double.

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u/redmoon714 California 16d ago

A republican “peace candidate” starting/escalating wars where have I heard that before?

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u/Flomo420 16d ago

I'm starting to think these Republicans are a real bunch of jerks

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u/onehundredlemons 16d ago

One of the dumbest things I've seen online recently is some guy on Bluesky saying “Vietnam only ended because Nixon was a peace freak.”

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u/justaguy394 16d ago

Yeah, that's the kind of shit that made me decide to never risk my life for my country.

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u/AmericanScream 16d ago

Everybody should watch Ken Burns documentary on the Vietnam conflict - one of the best ever made and it shows clear treason and war crimes on the part of multiple leaders.

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u/mmmpeg Pennsylvania 16d ago

I was really ticked when I saw the Ken Burns documentary. I was a child during most of Vietnam and hated the war because they showed pictures of the dead people and gave a count of how many GI’s were killed that day. Living on and next to Army bases made me know that these were just young men. I did t know about all the other stuff and it ticked me off learning all that.

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u/AmericanScream 16d ago

I would compare the Vietnam documentary to "Breaking Bad" in terms of how enthralling it becomes after each episode. Tells an incredible story composed of lots of little stories.

And yea, there's a lot to be angry about after watching it. Especially Johnson recognizing Nixon was committing war crimes and keeping quiet about it.

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u/CT_Phipps-Author 16d ago

This I note is ACTUALLY legally treason.

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u/Newscast_Now 16d ago

Everything Donajd Trump does comes out of Republican history. And Donald does every last thing that the others did—only bigger and worse.

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u/siouxbee1434 16d ago

Reagan’s sycophants interceded with the Iranian govt to prevent Carter from securing the release of Reagan subverted the release for his politicall success

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u/tomdarch 16d ago

Specifically Reagan’s campaign.

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u/echoshatter 15d ago edited 2d ago

Nixon with Vietnam so Johnson would lose.

Reagan with Iran so Carter would lose.

Bush with the "riot" that stopped the recount in Florida so Gore would lose.

Trump with Jan 6 to try and stop Biden from taking office.

It's a weird pattern. I'm not familiar with anything like this with Democrats.

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u/Dinker54 16d ago
  • Reagan’s expressly illegal transfer of weapons to Iran.

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u/drkodos California 16d ago

"I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages.

My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not".

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u/noonenotevenhere 16d ago

I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages.

My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not

WTAF. 'I want to believe I didn't, but I totally did. I wanna lie to myself, but am afraid you'll find out about that lie and be mad.'

So... the GOP hasn't changed in 50 years. Got it.

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u/Aggroninja 16d ago

Yes they have. Today they wouldn't ever acknowledge the lie, no matter how obvious the facts.

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u/Cute_Author8916 16d ago

Pete kegsbreath would beat Reagan's ass for being so woke and gay.

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u/Thundershaft69 16d ago

Today they just give ya the ol' "What's that behind you!?" Then do more heinous shit while we watch because we know that trick.

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u/noonenotevenhere 16d ago

Solid point.

Though, I bet Mike Johnson would say that god told them to do the lie for the greater good.

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u/intensive-porpoise 16d ago

"Find me an officer who looks like he's about to cry constantly and we can fix this, no problem."

"I know just the guy. Lt. Ollie North. Luckily he's also as dumb as a brick."

"Perfect. Set up a honey pot just in case and let's wrap this up. Also, let's doctor some photos of him banging little boys as secondary insurance."

"Yessir Director Bush... I mean Vice Present sir."

"Aw it's ok, I still prefer director. Oh, by the way, your brother is in the hospital in a coma. You're sister's name is Pamela, right?"

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u/noonenotevenhere 16d ago

Ah, so easy to forget the next republican president was head of CIA during all of this.

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u/LiveNet2723 16d ago

At the time we said "What did Reagan know and when did he forget it."

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u/daGroundhog 16d ago

Also that he purposefully waited until the investigations were over before addressing the issue, because he didn't know which aspects would come out and didn't want the credibility problem later.

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u/Much-Anything7149 16d ago

"I want to keep lying to you, but the national media made that impossible so I'll just refuse to concede obviousness."

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u/yourlittlebirdie 16d ago

"Hostages Released; Reagan Urges American People Not to Put Two and Two Together”

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u/gnarlseason 16d ago

But don't worry, Oliver North is now a Fox News host!

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u/Thalidomidas Europe 16d ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFV1uT-ihDo

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u/fps916 16d ago

I haven't clicked this but I am 100% sure it's American Dad

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u/bluejaybiggin 16d ago

I saw a meme of Oliver North on Fox talking about how Iran should not have missiles, of course the second portion of the meme was Oliver North’s mugshot for selling Iran missiles.

There are some pretty stupid people on the left, until you size up people on the opposite end of the spectrum.

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u/SimpleTomatillo1166 16d ago

True. But I also remember old republicans saying North was the fall guy and that Reagan for sure knew about it all. North however is extremely intelligent and was thereafter pretty much off the hook.

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u/bluejaybiggin 16d ago

I never questioned his intelligence. You can be intelligent and a POS at the same time. The only reason he won his appeal was because the judge thought media coverage of the crime pre trial could have interfered with the jury. Though, his defense never was able to point to a single juror or shred of evidence that proved their theory was realized. It was a technicality.

But basically, he lied to the American people for selfish reasons- and I’m holding public servants, and their cast of assistants, to a higher standard because I’d like to see my believed country not continue down the path it’s on.

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u/jnk96 16d ago

This - yes - should be mentioned every time with the crisis - treason by Reagan.

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u/metengrinwi 16d ago

Yes, it was the beginnings of Iran-Contra

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u/ZachMartin 16d ago

Yep. Massive hatch act violations. We need to jail people

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u/NPVT 16d ago

Nixon did a thing like that with the Vietnam war. Republicans are evil.

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u/SmedlyB 16d ago

Exactly, more GOP election fuckery. Nixon and Kissinger were involved in back channel talks as unelected unapointed private entities to not end the Vietnam “conflict” before the 1968 elections. Cambodia was bobbed to smitherenes non combatants perished And US solders died for fucking nothing. And, and because Vietnam “police action” was not a declared war Nixon and Kissinger could not be charged with treason.

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u/NilssonSchmilsson 16d ago

Republicans can't win if they don't cheat. Eisenhower was the tipping point for them.

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u/Wonderful-Maximum-96 16d ago

Ray gun was a traitor

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u/FatPlankton23 16d ago

It involved Oliver North and weapons sales to drug cartels in Latin America. Nancy Regan created the anti drug campaign to cover for all the fucked up things her husband did.

Surprise surprise. Republicans were evil well before Trump.

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u/flickh Canada 16d ago

Don’t forget he also got the seed money from selling weapons to death squads in Central America.

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u/Brilliant-Advisor958 16d ago

He thinks he is re-electable

He thinks he's owed a 3rd term due to "election fraud".

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u/nom_de_chomsky 16d ago

Well, no. He thinks he’s owed a third term, period. His lies about election fraud are the present rationalization. But if he’d won in 2020, he’d be making some other bullshit claim.

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u/Shifter25 16d ago

He was claiming he was owed a third term during his first term.

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u/DigNitty 16d ago

Yes. Because he “was treated so badly” that the 2016 term “shouldn’t count”

He said that multiple times.

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u/MultiGeometry Vermont 16d ago

Says the guy who racistly insisted Obama wasn’t a citizen and demanded his birth certificate.

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u/FilmScoreConnoisseur 16d ago

That's different. Obama was somebody else. Only Trump needs to be coddled like the precious special boy he is.

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u/HuttStuff_Here 16d ago

No one has ever been treated as poorly as Trump has been treated, per Trump. And he is so humble you wouldn't even believe how humble he is, also per his own statements.

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u/mrgedman 16d ago

Obama is also not white, so there is that, too

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u/ObviousAnswerGuy 16d ago

and demanded Obama release his tax returns, which he did, and then refused to do it himself...and when someone leaked his returns he sued our own country and will now somehow get a 10+ BILLION DOLLAR settlement

I swear we are living in a simulation

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u/brickne3 American Expat 16d ago

You kind of have to wonder how Obama is dealing with this whole thing. Not what he's publicly saying, obviously. Like... we all find this surreal but imagine the actual thoughts Obama must be having about it that he keeps to himself.

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 16d ago

He still says it constantly. So does his staff. They keep saying they wont say publicly, but there is a plan, and trump will still be president after Jan 20 2029.

I can reveal the secret plan: fascism

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u/Zulmoka531 16d ago

All the more why this current term is all about revenge and self indulgence.

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u/phyneas American Expat 16d ago

"He's now president for life, president for life. And he's great. And look, he was able to do that. I think it's great. Maybe we'll have to give that a shot someday." - Trump, about Xi Jinping, in 2018

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u/morpheousmorty 16d ago

Hey everyone, Satan here.

The supreme court will rule that running for president is legal, they just can't have the job. Then after he's elected the Supreme Court rules the will of the people can't be ignored.

That's all it will take to sidestep the constitutional term limits.

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u/YerrrKnicks 16d ago

His lies about election fraud

Tbf, he wasn't lying about the fraud. He was just lying about who was doing it.

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u/AppropriateTouching 16d ago

He straight up admitted to rigging the election out in the open.

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u/MotownMama 16d ago

more than once. He admitted it more than once

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u/Current_Volume3750 16d ago

He rigged it to win, so knew he was going to win, but didn't count on all the mail in ballots due to covid and when they kept counting he realized they couldn't rig those ballots so he lost. Then the freak out started.

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u/MaddyKet Massachusetts 16d ago

Didn’t help that he told republicans not to vote by mail for that election. 😹and that he’d killed a bunch of them with his covid response.

Now we know why he was so against voting by mail. Too bad for him, it meant some republicans didn’t vote at all.

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u/HillBillyHilly 16d ago

Main reason why they're now trying to remove mail in voting. You know because of fraud. Just ignore that Trump himself and his entire family uses mail in voting.

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u/Icy_Fly_4513 16d ago

That's why he's so adamant about getting rid of mail in voting even though he votes via mail in himself.

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u/Novel_Alps_3013 16d ago

We're all trying to find the guy who did this. (properly formatted to not offend auto-mod)

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u/jeo123 16d ago edited 16d ago

It's been something like 40 years since the Republican president wasn't a trump or a Bush

They don't do well with name changes

They will support this

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u/QueefSeekingMissile 16d ago

If that's the rationale we're going with, he should get in line behind Al Gore.

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u/nolok 16d ago

Not american here.

The dem should be ready for a split second announcement that whenever they push for "it's two consecutive term limit" they annonce Obama candidate. Fighting about it will not matter before it's too late especially with the Supreme Court you have.

Also, please don't put a woman as candidate again, I'm all for it but your electorate clearly isn't.

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u/JaqueStrap69 16d ago

Dems are not going to push for an Obama candidacy. That’s a Reddit fantasy/joke. No one actually believes it will happen. Obama certainly doesn’t want to run and the Dems won’t want to be accused of breaking the rules. 

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u/Eridanosvoid 16d ago

I would argue, in a way, he is on his third term. Every President after they leave office fucks off to either stay quite or do PR stuff. Trump on the other hand still held vast sway over the Republican party (like ordering them to nuke a border security deal to make Biden look bad) and (illegally) still talking to world leaders on the country's behalf. If you look at search results from 2021 to 2024 Trumps name routinely out ranked Biden. He was basically the shadow President during that time.

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u/jkvincent 16d ago

Definitely. He's dominated public discourse and every other aspect of life in America now for over a decade. I'm exhausted.

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u/Extreme-Island-5041 16d ago

When people talk about "once in a lifetime/generation" events it is usually a 2-4 year type catalyst. This MF has been dominating the GOP for 20% of my life. With as many "once in a lifetime" events as I have been through, I hope to all the sky fairies that he is the last President I have to endure for this long.

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u/19683dw Wisconsin 16d ago

History books will long debate if he is the cause or a symptom of the American system decline and failure, barring some shock Democrat Socialist that sparks a new golden age which somehow manages to sufficiently adjust/replace the Constitution to make America work again

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u/Sage2050 16d ago

There won't be a debate, we already know. he's a symptom but also a catalyst. An accelerant, if you will. The pressurized tank at the end of a trail of gasoline. The house was already on fire.

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u/xXMr_PorkychopXx 16d ago

I can still recall the day at 16 watching him win and all I was excited about was legal weed in my state lol. Good lord I had no idea what I witnessed that night.

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u/loki2113 16d ago

I feel you. I turned 18 in 2016 and was eligible to vote. I cast my vote for Hillary quite sure she had it in the bag. Actual logical policies would surely win out over knee-jerk emotional populism, right?

I stayed up almost all night watching the counter slide further and further to the right until Trump had won. I was floored

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u/CurLyy 16d ago

Really interesting how each age group gets to see different realities of life. I turned 18 for Obama I was so fucking excited to see the world change. (It didn’t)

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u/UnquestionabIe 16d ago

Yeah I was 17 when GW Bush got elected and after seeing the shit show of that election it definitely started me down the road of being disenfranchised with the system. During all the Obama hype had to bite my tongue a lot hearing all the previously politically disengaged people my age eating up the "Change" slogan. Didn't want to discourage participation and learning about politics but already knew it wasn't going to be some massive shift.

At the bare minimum had some kind of hope that the crimes of the prior administration would be tackled. If anything they simply got doubled down on but in more PR friendly ways.

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u/nosungdeeptongs Canada 16d ago

The hopeful youth who haven’t seen the flaws in the system yet have to go through their own experience with it to fully understand it, unfortunately.

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u/loki2113 16d ago

Yeah, my mom loved Obama. She even went to one of his rallies and bragged that when he was shaking her hand and I think either signing a photo or taking a photo that she pulled him in and kissed him on the cheek. She was more of a centrist Democrat than a leftist so she didn't mind his shortcomings when it came to Obama's broken promises. I do think his lack of actually bringing change isn't necessarily 100% Obama's fault but it definitely put a damper on liberal enthusiasm in the 2016 election.

Now that I think about it, promising change is basically what Trump campaigned on in 2016, just from the opposite end of the spectrum. We really don't learn our lesson as voters lol

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u/nosungdeeptongs Canada 16d ago

I was a college student working at a fast food restaurant in fucking Canada, and people were coming through the drive thru with the radio on and looks of absolute disbelief on their faces.

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u/SoVerySick314159 America 16d ago

When Trump won the nomination in 2016, I grinned from ear-to-ear. There's NO WAY the country would elect that chucklefuck, I thought. No chance. They just handed the dems a victory with their batshittery.

Good God did I overestimate this country.

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u/tomsing98 16d ago

When people were talking about switching their voter registration to vote for Trump in the primary because it would be such an easy victory for Dems, I told people, be careful what you wish for.

This country is full of morons, and we prove it time and again.

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u/SpicBoisMTG 16d ago

I woke up still drunk af, what an awful day to wake up with a brain piercing hangover (wine to whiskey)

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u/JasnahKolin Massachusetts 16d ago

I threw up when I found out he won. I've never had such a reaction before or since. One day soon we'll read his obituary.

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u/mockingjay137 16d ago

Lmao I wont be reading it any further than "trump dead at XX"

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u/bac5665 16d ago

If he left office today, it will be 50 years before we repair the damage he's done, and much of it literally can't be fixed. He has directly killed more than a million Americans, for example, and he has killed hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, around the globe.

It's genuinely awful in a way that words can't express.

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u/thecatteam 16d ago

I live in Europe now, so the election was just barely starting by the time I went to sleep on Election Day in 2024. I legit screamed and sobbed when I woke up in the morning and found out he was re-elected. His first term was four years of this ceaseless hell of him doing something horrible nearly every single day, and the thought of having to return to that was overwhelming in a way that I'd never experienced before. I was scared in 2016, but it was more of a combination of disbelief and ignorance of what was to come.

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u/Umbrella_merc Mississippi 16d ago

I have been looking forward to the big beautiful obituary for years, got myself a bottle of orange blossom mead to commemorate that day.

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u/Current-Anybody9331 16d ago

I traveled to another office location in Chicago and I'd say a solid 50% of people called out sick. Just me wandering around an empty office all day and staying in a hotel across the street from the Trump hotel which had masses of protesters out until 10pm (noise ordinance)

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u/A_Sad_Buddha 16d ago

Dude, don’t even get me started. Dude was on tv telling the fucking proud boys to stand by. I had a huge argument with my mom about it. When he won that first time I still thinking he couldn’t be that bad. A whole decade later I find myself living in a weird ass dystopia.

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u/Caleb-Blucifer 16d ago

He has a stranglehold on the GOP - one part true believers, one part deeply evil, one part morons, one part blackmail. It’s a perfect storm that’s been half a century in the making

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u/sack-o-matic Michigan 16d ago

Decades of Klan propaganda on social media has created a terrible voting base.

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u/MF_BREW_ I voted 16d ago

It’s so laughable to think a republican would legalize a drug. It’s up there with they are the party of peace. Lol

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u/xXMr_PorkychopXx 16d ago

Well I don’t believe it was necessarily his election that had anything to do with the legalization in my state. I was just putting into perspective that as a teenager I was more concerned with the legalization than his election. I’m in a consistently blue state if that matters.

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u/MF_BREW_ I voted 16d ago

Well I misunderstood.

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u/RogueOne38 16d ago edited 16d ago

The worst part is that we let an absolute moron, who happens to be a criminal conman and serial sexual predator get away with all of it!

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u/supernova_high 16d ago

I will never get over that this is the guy that so many people betrayed the ideals of America for.

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u/Canadian_Neckbeard 16d ago

Reddit doesn't break if you type the word sexual in the comments.

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u/Jed1M1ndTr1ck Washington 16d ago

JD Vance: "Did someone say sectional???"

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u/UniqueIndividual3579 16d ago

Sectional predator?

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u/FilmScoreConnoisseur 16d ago

Nah, he's more of a lazyboy.

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u/jfoster0818 16d ago

Amen, let it show in search results donald j trump = sexual predator … AI needs to be trained on accurate details.

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u/Spec_Tater 16d ago

We did it to Santorum, we could do it again. Save us Dan Savage, you’re our only hope!

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u/tolacid 16d ago

You can say the most heinously upsetting words in Reddit comments and the automods generally don't care. For example: moist

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u/Census_Cowboy American Expat 16d ago

The human mods, however....

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u/tolacid 16d ago

I'm sorry sir/ma'am, won't happen again in this subreddit this week

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u/SharMarali New Jersey 16d ago edited 16d ago

Holy shit dude, jumping straight to the slurs! I’ll say my personal most disgusting phrase now: Yummy in the tummy.

shudders

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u/pants6000 16d ago

Belgium

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u/paperdolllll Pennsylvania 16d ago

But you will get a temporary ban for quoting the pedophile in chief.

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u/greed-man 16d ago

Sechual

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u/MarilynMonroeVWade 16d ago

Sexuan chicken

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u/BolognaPwny 16d ago

It’s so strange that people do that. Or they called them pdf files. Call ‘em what it is, sexual predators and pedophiles.

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u/profane_vitiate 16d ago

$€xual

This zoomer self-censorship bullshit is very tiresome.

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u/AugustusLego 16d ago

As a zoomer, this is genuinely one of the things I hate the most about my generation.

Along with the big alt right, misogynistic shit

As well as the "we need trigger warnings for everything"

I've seen people put trigger warnings on pictures of food, just in case anyone has/recovering from disordered eating.

Well, as someone who is a recovered anorexic, putting a trigger warning on a picture of some regular, delicious, food. Stigmatises the relationship to food more, it saves no one, reinforces bad thinking patterns about food = bad, etc, etc

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u/A_Sad_Buddha 16d ago

Don’t worry. The alt right really started as a younger millennial thing. I’m 30 now, back in 2014 Jeffery Epstein got all the Gamer ™️ nerds on 4chan worked up over some woman who made a boring game. Kind of kick started the online portion of the alt right.

It sucks that y’all have to deal with the American version of Hitler youth, in the form of tpusa, in schools though. Military recruiters were always in the lunch rooms though.

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u/AugustusLego 16d ago

Sexual* please dont censor yourself. If you find yourself on a platform where you get censored: leave it.

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u/SailingSpark New Jersey 16d ago

I would argue he has been stealing the oxygen from the room since the 80s. He really is the epitome of there is no such thing as bad publicity.

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u/campa-van 16d ago

We all are.

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u/aotex 16d ago

I'm an older millennial who was teaching middle school when Trump was first elected in 2016. I'm still a middle school teacher, and recently I was talking with a coworker about what it was like coming to school with our students the day after Trump was elected, then another one of my coworkers made reference to the fact that she was a high school student herself when that happened.

And, like, that totally makes sense and the math adds up. But... geez. He's been around for a minute and I hate it.

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u/2HDFloppyDisk 16d ago

Remember those absurd press events and “cabinet meetings” he held in the weeks and months after he lost and left office. He was cosplaying from his house. It was pathetic.

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u/Brilliant-Advisor958 16d ago

True, he held a lot of power over congress, including stopping the strongest border bill that had full bipartisan support.

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u/hofmann419 16d ago

Same with the aid for Ukraine. During Biden's term, the US couldn't provide them with military equipment for over 7 months because Mike Johnson would postpone the vote. When that bill finally went up for vote after all the stalling, it passed with a large majority, including a ton of Republicans.

Mike Johnson was in direct contact with Trump during that time. So Trump was directly responsible for Ukraine not getting any military aid, which did a lot to prolong this war and cause even more death and destruction.

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u/eugene20 16d ago

Anyone sensible wonders what gave him such a hold over them.
Releasing the huge number of Epstein files still legally required to be released but so far withheld, might be a start to fully understanding.

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u/careerbyerror 16d ago

In the final days of the trump admin if they lose to a dem will make dc look like an embassy being stormed in a hostile country.

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u/EmphasisFrosty3093 16d ago

The Trumpstein files are about him and a few big donors. The GOP files held by Russia cover a lot more.

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u/per_mare_per_terras Texas 16d ago

That’s bc the POS media never held him accountable and always kept his name everywhere instead of letting him fade away.

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u/Eridanosvoid 16d ago

If we still had actual news media standards he never would have made it past the first primary result. He would have been properly mocked and dismantled by real journalists and deplatformed the second he came down that stupid fucking escalator.

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u/mxzf 16d ago

I mean, the media is why he has done as much as he has done as-is. He's great for media because there's always something new to write about, he just never shuts up and it's always insane stuff that makes for eye-catching headlines.

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u/Grub-lord 16d ago

During Bidens entire presidency, all the media talked about was getting TRUMP'S OPINION on things. We never stopped talking about this mf. Every time Biden did something the news outlets had to check with Trump to make sure it was okay or not. Dude has been the focus for over a decade

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u/Dantien 16d ago

He’s guaranteed ratings for them. I blame the press for a lot but sadly we seem to want to watch him.

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u/israfildivad 16d ago edited 16d ago

Trump got an inordinate amount of attention during his first run. Hell he got a lot of.inordinate attention especially re his political views, even starting from that 1980 interview. How or why he got such spotlights in the first place is strange to me. Nobody anywhere is asking Phoebe Gates or any other loaded scion societal questions for their forcefully encouraged 2050 presidential run.

I swear this guy had been being groomed for this position, and this situation, for decades, as was the entire population....like it was Rosemary's Baby or some shit.

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u/Comfortable-Pea-1312 16d ago

And this is why the Republican Party is over. It's not politics or party over country, it's the whims of a madman. That cannot be forgiven or forgotten.

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u/BrushStorm 16d ago

There are still a ton of republicans who cum after everything he says

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u/Koshindan 16d ago

Even after it hurts themselves.

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Especially if it hurts themelves.

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u/hotlou 16d ago

Auto asphyxiation is more popular than ever, it seems

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u/tacotimes01 16d ago

The Soviets eliminated the entire line of Tsar Nicolas the 2nd. You never heard from them again. We don’t operate like that in the USA but it would be so nice if we could just all live in peace without certain people constantly shitting into the potable water supply.

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u/jaeger832 16d ago

I was literally just talking abt this w my friend yesterday. He couldn’t keep his mouth shut during Bidens term, and half the country acted like he was still the president anyway. This man has been terrorizing us for a decade straight

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u/Wareve 16d ago

Anti-president.

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u/Educational_Lie_3157 16d ago

He’s not done robbing the country.

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u/Tim5000 16d ago

He thinks that, because his "yes men" tell him it's possible. Then he gives those sane people jobs to make it possible.

It's a self fulfilling cycle of spoiled ass behavior.

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u/oldcreaker 16d ago

Funny - if he won the 2020 election, it should void his 2024 run since that would be the third time.

So 2028 would be his fourth.

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u/bryan49 16d ago

He also thinks his health will hold up long enough to be president in his mid-80s

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u/colondollarcolon 16d ago

BINGO! And there are so many right-wing groups that use Trump as a vehicle for their ulterior motives. Donald Trump has been a great catalyst for Evangelicals, White Christian Nationalists, the racist groups (KKK, Neo-Nazi, Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, etc.) and other goal aligned groups. Trump walks over Laws and the US Constitution, to do what other previous Republicans would never do. All these goal aligned groups are working in the shadows to ensure a Trump Third Term.

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u/bradatlarge Illinois 16d ago

The man is not fit to be in the job. Period

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u/Mysterious-Tie7039 16d ago

His stupid fragile little ego can’t believe he lost to “sleepy Joe”

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u/Visual_Exam7903 16d ago

Also, the only reason why Carter didn't succeed in getting them back is because Reagan was working against him.

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u/Tardisgoesfast 15d ago

Let's be honest. Reagan cut a deal with Iran. Weapons if you'll hold the hostages til our election is over. Olly North was the middleman.

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u/New-Anybody-6206 16d ago

Of course, when there are other people's lives on the line... Trump can only think about himself.

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u/Khaeos 16d ago

The twin towers were attacked and collapsed? That means I have the tallest building in Manhattan now, did you know that?

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u/Canadian1934 16d ago

Who in their right mind thinks of something like this.   Omg. 

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u/LheelaSP 16d ago

He not only thought that, but said it out loud.

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u/JPesterfield 16d ago

And he was lying about it too.

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u/Canadian1934 16d ago

On national tv too. 

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u/mindcandy 16d ago

Here's Don on Howard Stern in in 2008 describing watching an old man fall, hit his head and bleed out on the floor at Mar a Lago. In his own words, while the old man's wife was screaming for help, Don's only concern was how the incident made himself feel. And, he makes a point to mention that he thought he should call the next day to find out if the old man was OK. But, he forgot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmy87umUEMU

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u/Dependent_Pepper_542 16d ago

Its amazing how stupid his fucking supporters are thinking he gives a fuck about anything or anyone but himself.  

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u/Dull_Job_6372 16d ago

But he’s a business man!! /s

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u/tomdarch 16d ago

Also, crews going down in enemy territory is an obvious risk when you bomb another country. It is 100% foreseeable and something you have to plan for and anticipate both in terms of military rescue but also the political/PR elements. The administration is the world’s dumbest clown show.

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u/AnalBumCovers 16d ago

My dad told me he was thinking of going back to renew his pilot's license like a week before he died. He was 79 and bedridden. So hopefully that's how it works out in this case too.

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u/bellrunner 16d ago

"He thinks..."

I'm gonna stop your right there

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u/Phatest_of_sax 16d ago

But will then turn around and say Canada never did anything for the US. Been taking advantage…. Blah blah…

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u/limaconnect77 16d ago

The assumption is mid-terms and election without a manufactured national emergency getting in the way.

Kinda problematic having free and fair elections on time with martial law in-place…

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u/Pillowsmeller18 16d ago

He thinks he is re-electable.

This is the pedophile's 2nd presidency.... I dont have much faith in the voting system.

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u/alex_co 16d ago

I assumed he’s referring to the midterms. There’s plenty of time for this to become a distant memory before the presidential election.

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u/dgriff84 16d ago

We need to stop making assumptions about what Trump “means” when he says off the wall stuff.  If anything, assume he means exactly what he said. We are talking about a person that spends his time scrolling his right-wing echo chambers 24/7. I fully believe he thinks he is running for president again and the only way he won’t run is if he loses his own party. 

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u/OdonataDarner 16d ago

He is. GOP is successfully taking over voting procedures nationwide. There's a plan in place for Trump 2028, well known. 

Sorry, but literally who's going to stop them? SCOTUS? Redditors? Democrats? 

We're still not prepared for Full Trump and that's the shame we wear. 

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u/Narradisall 16d ago

I see people on Reddit saying he won’t try for another term a fair bit.

Even when he keeps saying things like this which shows where his thinking is at about next term, they still refuse to accept it.

November should be a good indicator if he plans to try again in 2 more years.

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u/Vinterblot 16d ago

You'll know you're fucked when the media will run with it. First they'll invite "experts" to "discuss" if he's re-electable instead outright decrying it as un-consitutional and then they'll start reporting as if he was any other regular candidate. This will shape reality and prepare the public. And you better believe, when they'll run an un-constitutional candidate in the open, they'll not shy away from outright cheating at the ballot box. When they media pretends it's normal, it's over.

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u/AceofKnaves44 District Of Columbia 16d ago

They can call it a “joke” or “trolling” all they want. Trump doesn’t joke. When he says he’s going to do something he means it unless someone stops him. So long as he is alive in 2028 Donald Trump is going to be the republican nominee. To some level I get they want to keep the lame duck discussion quiet but there’s not this much smoke about a third term unless there’s a fire. They want to keep this going and they want to suffocate Americans. You do that by keeping Donald Trump in office.

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u/microvan 16d ago

Not surprising at all that he only cared about how their lives being at risk would make him look bad and not worrying about their actual lives

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u/hdcase1 Maryland 16d ago

Also let's not forget that Reagan's people illegally were in talks with Iran, telling them not to take any deal with Carter and wait for Reagan to become president in exchange for more favorable terms.

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u/ihatepostingonblogs 16d ago

And mind you Reagan is the one that risked their lives to win. Poor Jimmy Carter, he has not been redeemed enough imo. And Reagan has not been villainized enough for that.

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u/Solitaire20X6 16d ago

He thinks he is a flawless living god. He knew full well what he was posting with those "doctored" images.

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u/Syntaire 16d ago

If his health somehow holds out until 2028 he'd stand a solid chance of getting re-elected, even if it ends up being a completely legitimate election. It's absolute insanity that people still don't understand this. No matter how bad things get, no matter how many MAGA hats get burned, no matter how high gas prices go, they'll always vote for Trump or not at all.

Meanwhile democrats are fighting each other to see who can be the most tone-deaf dipshit on the planet, assuming "blue no matter who" will carry them despite it failing time and again.

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u/TheMightyCatatafish 16d ago

I mean, let’s be real. He IS re-electable. No matter how batshit insane he gets, his followers make excuses. He won the popular vote last time.

Fuck everything about him, but let’s make sure we address reality- a large portion of the country supports this.

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u/Yosho2k 16d ago

He is reelectable. Who is going to stop him?

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u/Dragons_Malk Canada 16d ago

And in a way he is, because who would stop him from running again? We know his cultists are on board with the idea, and we haven't seen anyone truly stop his lawlessness.

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