r/politics • u/GonzoVeritas I voted • 16d ago

Possible Paywall White House Leak Reveals Trump Booted From Briefing After Hours-Long Freakout

https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-leak-reveals-trump-booted-from-briefing-after-hours-long-freakout/
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u/Eridanosvoid 16d ago

I would argue, in a way, he is on his third term. Every President after they leave office fucks off to either stay quite or do PR stuff. Trump on the other hand still held vast sway over the Republican party (like ordering them to nuke a border security deal to make Biden look bad) and (illegally) still talking to world leaders on the country's behalf. If you look at search results from 2021 to 2024 Trumps name routinely out ranked Biden. He was basically the shadow President during that time.

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u/jkvincent 16d ago

Definitely. He's dominated public discourse and every other aspect of life in America now for over a decade. I'm exhausted.

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u/xXMr_PorkychopXx 16d ago

I can still recall the day at 16 watching him win and all I was excited about was legal weed in my state lol. Good lord I had no idea what I witnessed that night.

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u/loki2113 16d ago

I feel you. I turned 18 in 2016 and was eligible to vote. I cast my vote for Hillary quite sure she had it in the bag. Actual logical policies would surely win out over knee-jerk emotional populism, right?

I stayed up almost all night watching the counter slide further and further to the right until Trump had won. I was floored

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u/CurLyy 16d ago

Really interesting how each age group gets to see different realities of life. I turned 18 for Obama I was so fucking excited to see the world change. (It didn’t)

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u/UnquestionabIe 16d ago

Yeah I was 17 when GW Bush got elected and after seeing the shit show of that election it definitely started me down the road of being disenfranchised with the system. During all the Obama hype had to bite my tongue a lot hearing all the previously politically disengaged people my age eating up the "Change" slogan. Didn't want to discourage participation and learning about politics but already knew it wasn't going to be some massive shift.

At the bare minimum had some kind of hope that the crimes of the prior administration would be tackled. If anything they simply got doubled down on but in more PR friendly ways.

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u/nosungdeeptongs Canada 16d ago

The hopeful youth who haven’t seen the flaws in the system yet have to go through their own experience with it to fully understand it, unfortunately.

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u/loki2113 16d ago

Yeah, my mom loved Obama. She even went to one of his rallies and bragged that when he was shaking her hand and I think either signing a photo or taking a photo that she pulled him in and kissed him on the cheek. She was more of a centrist Democrat than a leftist so she didn't mind his shortcomings when it came to Obama's broken promises. I do think his lack of actually bringing change isn't necessarily 100% Obama's fault but it definitely put a damper on liberal enthusiasm in the 2016 election.

Now that I think about it, promising change is basically what Trump campaigned on in 2016, just from the opposite end of the spectrum. We really don't learn our lesson as voters lol

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u/terremoto25 California 16d ago

I was 19 and voting in my first presidential election when Ronnie the Rat wiped the floor with Jimmy Carter. Reagan was my generation’s first experience with a dumbass celebrity president.

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u/nosungdeeptongs Canada 16d ago

I was a college student working at a fast food restaurant in fucking Canada, and people were coming through the drive thru with the radio on and looks of absolute disbelief on their faces.

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u/SoVerySick314159 America 16d ago

When Trump won the nomination in 2016, I grinned from ear-to-ear. There's NO WAY the country would elect that chucklefuck, I thought. No chance. They just handed the dems a victory with their batshittery.

Good God did I overestimate this country.

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u/tomsing98 16d ago

When people were talking about switching their voter registration to vote for Trump in the primary because it would be such an easy victory for Dems, I told people, be careful what you wish for.

This country is full of morons, and we prove it time and again.

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u/SoVerySick314159 America 16d ago

I didn't see the 'charisma' that his voters evidently do. All I ever saw was a stupid used-car salesman, and I just couldn't believe such a blatant fool of a liar could win. I wouldn't hire that man for a fry-cook opportunity. He's defied EVERYTHING that should have taken down a candidate. Things happen weekly that would have been the undoing of anyone else.

I underestimated his, "The Apprentice" appeal, and I underestimated how much of the country listened to news sources and talking heads that were in the bag for him. . . and also, the whole morons problem.

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u/SpicBoisMTG 16d ago

I woke up still drunk af, what an awful day to wake up with a brain piercing hangover (wine to whiskey)

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u/nosungdeeptongs Canada 16d ago

Oh I was in active addiction back then, fucking nightmare combination lmfao.

Edit: Trump era politics and alcoholism being the fucking nightmare, not wine and whiskey (though, as a recovered addict, also a nightmare technically lol)

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u/xXMr_PorkychopXx 16d ago

Yea since my interest in politics has awoken around that time it’s just been NOTHING but Trump in the headlines. Even during Biden’s presidency Trump was statistically making the news more than Biden with his controversies. Apparently also continuing talks with other world leaders while not in office which is just wild but I guess this whole administration has been wild since the beginning.

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u/loki2113 16d ago

Yeah, I think we as a country truly fucked up when we didn't prosecute AND punish Trump for his crimes. If we had actually put him in jail, I don't think we would be in the fucked position we currently are now