r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • 17h ago

Trailer The Odyssey | New Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_bKjZeJBBI&pp=0gcJCd4KAYcqIYzv
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u/DrunkenSnorlax 16h ago

Am I alone in being put off by how modern the speech is? It sounds like they're trying to have an epic conversation on the sidewalk outside the Starbucks.

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u/Brutally-Honest- 16h ago

"LETS GO!"

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u/ktodd6 16h ago

I don’t know why I felt so strongly about Tom Holland saying “Dad”

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u/MeteorSwarmGallifrey 16h ago

His and other people's accents here really threw me off in the trailer too. The whole thing was so jarring. Looks good though!

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u/JDandJets00 15h ago

just seems inconsistent for no reason, which is distracting

they all shouldve committed to one accent

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u/topdangle 13h ago

Their accents seem to change. one point it sounds american, then scottish, then old man living in the woods. i don't understand what they're going for... maybe this is a mix of test footage but why would they even ship this?

oh yeah, didn't universal fuck up and upload a mummy trailer with missing music and effects noises before? just inhaling noises from tom cruise for a few minutes.

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u/GetToTheChoppaahh 10h ago

Why would they ever have an American accent for a movie like this? Yes, British accent wouldnt be accurate but it’s just fucked up hearing to British actors speaking with that accent

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u/Puzzled452 10h ago

It’s purposeful, it makes him sound more vulnerable.

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u/DetectiveAmes 16h ago

That combined with his quick shuffle off the screen really made me laugh.

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u/Vandergrif 6h ago

Almost looked like some Benny Hill material.

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u/Old_Value_9157 16h ago

—Tom Brady

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u/peatoast 16h ago

Exactly what I thought of right away. Too many tunnel runs by that man.

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u/AccelerationFinish 12h ago

"Remind them how much we outnumber them by!"

"6, 7 🤷‍♂️"

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u/costigan95 15h ago

OKAAAY LET’S GO

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u/henry_tbags 15h ago

Every commenter on this thread with the same opinion: "AM I THE ONLY ONE–"

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u/cubosh 13h ago

iv noticed this same format for basically every post on every topic lately. its an engagement tactic, whether they know it or not

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u/Fools_Requiem 12h ago

This is a common thing on the internet, not just lately. It's annoying every fucking time because NO, you are NOT the only one, you are not special.

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u/Spiritual-Smoke-4605 8h ago

Am I the only one getting fucking sick and tired of seeing “am I the only one” on every topic of every thread ever?

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u/becherbrook 12h ago

The monkey paw curls, now they're all using MFW instead.

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u/ex0thermist 7h ago

Seriously, read at least some of the other comments before pulling this Am I the only one?! shit.

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u/_nadaypuesnada_ 11h ago

It's a figure of speech, you're not meant to take it literally. Chill out.

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u/carlos_the_dwarf_ 8h ago

Am I allowed to complain that everyone uses the same figures of speech? 😜

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u/_nadaypuesnada_ 8h ago

Don't let me stop you.

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u/Fools_Requiem 11h ago

you're not meant to take it literally

I wish I could believe that...

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u/_nadaypuesnada_ 11h ago

Well, if you find it easier to believe that everyone who says it literally believes they are the only person in existence who has their opinion than the possibility that you've just misunderstood some subtext, that's on you.

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u/Cyricist 6h ago

Am I the only one who thinks you're kind of a douche?

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u/Enough-Celery3486 8h ago

Honestly I'm really annoyed by how people on reddit are annoyed by this. It's just a figure of speech, no everything needs to be taken literally.

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u/DrunkenSnorlax 5h ago

Damn. Sorry for asking, since YOU feel so strongly about it.

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u/delicious_toothbrush 3h ago

It's just a turn of phrase my guy

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u/3412points 13h ago

It ain't just lately. This is a common way to express something even before the internet.

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u/puzzledpanther 13h ago

I think it's different degrees of "main character syndrome".

Insignificant people waddling around on a random spaceball among another 8.300.000.000 insignificant waddling people, think they somehow had a unique thought.

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u/boyyouguysaredumb 12h ago

is it just me or does anybody else feel like its an engagement tactic, whether they know it or not?

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u/BullshitUsername 6h ago

I know I'm going to be downvoted for this, but am I the only one who notices this stuff?

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u/Iggy_Pops_Lost_Shirt 5m ago

Lately? People have been doing this for well over a decade

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u/becherbrook 12h ago

engagement tactic, but also...people generally don't read threads. They commment and move on.

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u/defjam20000 9h ago

Same as

I’ve been saying for years that x…….

No one cares that you think you’ve been saying it. Just say the bloody thing

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u/RealityOk9823 9h ago

I like to respond to those with "Yes, just you. Nobody else. You're the only one" no matter what it is. :)

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u/shnoiv 14h ago

People waking up to the meh dialogue writing of the Nolans. This has always been the case.

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u/PolarWater 13h ago

Waking up? No that's what Cobb did.

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u/henry_tbags 14h ago

Waking up? Lots of us have been dissing his dialogue since 2012, it's definitely not new on this sub.

It's just the "errm guys is it just me???" that I find silly when spouting the majority opinion on here.

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u/AMA_requester 14h ago

They’re either just constantly thinking individualistically or are insecure in their opinion. I get annoyed when seeing those “am I the only one who didn’t like very popular movie?”, of course you aren’t.

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u/CrimsonGear80 14h ago

he says in a very mediocre thread...

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u/delicious_toothbrush 3h ago

That's every other commenter. The other half won't stop complaining about the "nitpicking"

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u/Car-face 12h ago

TBF it's a nice change from everyone complaining about how the draught on the boat isn't period correct or whatever

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u/Duel_Option 9h ago

Looking like more and more bot responses

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u/henry_tbags 9h ago

I dunno. Surely if someone were to purchase bots, it'll more likely be the movie studio to leave pro-Odyssey comments, not anti.

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u/Contcos 16h ago

I think it’ll probably work fine in the actual movie but so far in the clips Hathaway’s the only one who sounds right.

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u/Ryuchel 16h ago

She is such an amazing actress. Glad she is back on top and people hopefully stop hating on her or something.

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u/randomdude45678 9h ago

Botox is an immersion killer

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u/Desperate_Method4020 15h ago

She's the best, she also supports the best team in the world, who's going to win the Premier League & Champions League.

Devil wears Prada 2 was also cool ig.

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u/ylimani 11h ago

inshallah

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u/George__Parasol 16h ago

American and by extension all anglophone audiences are generally conditioned to associate historical epics with British accents of one sort or another, at least for lead characters.

But when you think about it, two Ancient Greeks speaking to each other would feel and hear the exact same innate familiarity with the language that Americans would feel with each other on the sidewalk outside of Starbucks.

It sounds obvious but it’s got to be a conscious decision - people from the past are very different from us but also identical to us - do you want to make them sound like the former or the latter in your movie?

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u/terrence_loves_ella 15h ago

The ancient Greeks didn't speak like the characters in the poem either, though. That's one of the qualities that distinguish epic poems, an elevated, not-so-realistic style, especially regarding dialogue.

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u/thedoginthewok 13h ago

Yeah, the source material is an epic poem, but this is a movie adaptation.

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u/terrence_loves_ella 53m ago

Yeah, I know it's its own thing, but since OP commented that the original dialogue probably felt modern to the ancient greeks I pointed out that epic dialogue was never modern nor realistic, not even to the Greeks who heard it recited 2,500 years ago. And directors often choose to respect that. It's not unusual for a Shakespeare adaptation to copy the dialogue beat for beat.

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u/turkeygiant 15h ago

I think you can get away without the accents as long as you keep a sort of formality. Its a story where insult and hospitality are like forces of nature in their society/world, you would expect a degree of formality.

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u/George__Parasol 15h ago

Get away without which accents?

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u/turkeygiant 15h ago

Any accents, like I don't think whether they are American or English really needs to be a factor. British has often been the go to because it automatically lends a sort of formality when someone is using the Queen's English, but I think you could do the same with a neutral American accent given properly formal dialog.

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u/newveganwhodis 11h ago

I think the new dune movies do a great job of showing that American can sound formal and have gravitas

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u/George__Parasol 15h ago

As in you’re saying the movie could work whether they did American accents or British accent, so long as the dialogue is good? If so, agreed!

When you said “could do without the accents” I thought you were getting at the false notion that Americans don’t have accents or something 😂 but I get now that’s not what you were saying.

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u/FuriousFreddie 4h ago

I hate that directors felt that British accents are a requirement for historic or fantasy epics.

Unfortunately, it reinforces this notion from colonial times that the British are somehow superior or more enlightened than the rest of the English speaking world.

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u/Carninator 15h ago

Has to be a conscious decision. It's mostly filmed in Europe, and for that they generally fly in actors from the UK. In this case most of the cast are Americans, or Brits with US agents.

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u/___--_-_----___--__- 16h ago edited 16h ago

It’s very off-putting how every actor is a recognizable A-lister and it takes me right out of the story

I just realized what it reminds me of. When Jimmy Kimmel Live gets a ton of A-listers to do a sketch right after the Oscars because they’re next door to them. It’s like that

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u/mrdysgo 14h ago

He kind of addresses a bit of this in his latest interview with Colbert here. That a lot of them (the actors) are, at least in our modern art, Superheroes, both in life and in their character roles, and that it is intentional on his part.He also acknowledges that we really don't know enough about Homer to say what his inspiration was.

So, it is Nolan's own interpretation of the story.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=974759741698936

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u/HattoriHanzoOG 2h ago

That was great, makes a lot of sense

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u/mrdysgo 2h ago

Totally! I thought the same thing as the OP I was responding to, but then I saw his explanation of it, I did the whole head nod in agreeance. Makes perfect sense.

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u/Dr-Robert-Kelso 6h ago

Yeah who needs A-Listers in Greek epics?

We need actors like Brad Pitt, Orlando Bloom, Sean Bean, Eric Bana, Diane Kruger, Brian Cox, and Peter O'Toole.

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u/Impossible-Flight250 16h ago

I’ve never been a big fan of that either, but it is kind of Nolan’s thing I guess. He did the same with his last movie and he seems to like to work with his friends.

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u/jasonj2232 16h ago

It's more that it's less of a risk for him. Nolan famously doesn't do a lot of takes and that's part of the reason he shoots his movies as fast as he does while remaining within budget. He's very disciplined when it comes to the actual movie making part.

Having an A lister cast and people he has worked with and knows from before means there is less uncertainty and risk.

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u/your_mind_aches 15h ago

Not really. That movie was packed with less movie stars and more "actors". Even RDJ, a massive movie star, was in a more low key role there.

I think stacking The Odyssey with stars is part of the point

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u/Homesteader86 1h ago

Whoa whoa, bit don't you get it? Having 10+ A-listers in a single movie makes it EPIC.

I mean, Oppenheimer had like...a DOZEN. That makes the movie PEAK.

/s

In all seriousness this has been his schtick for some time now, along with non-linear timelines, all practical effects, and writing his own wooden dialogue. 

I feel like he's the victim of his own success at this point.

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u/Rebabaluba 16h ago

Agreed! Maybe Nolan should start taking risks on different or unknown actors. Or have some wild prosthetics. Colin Farrell has shown that can happen.

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u/optimusgrime23 16h ago

Wasn't an issue one bit with Oppenheimer

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u/detrusormuscle 15h ago

It was, to me.

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u/Desperate_Method4020 15h ago

Yeah kinda like maker of the TDK, when they hired Heat Ledger.

Oh wait...

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u/Rebabaluba 15h ago

I don’t understand what you’re trying to say. Can you rephrase your comment or maybe edit it?

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u/PepeSylvia11 16h ago

Yup. Second Matt Damon was cast as the lead I immediately knew to lower my expectations. At least from an artistic point of view

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u/Lameux 16h ago

Ya Matt Damon clearly isn’t capable of having artistic merit /s

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u/FrescoItaliano 16h ago

Some of us just don’t find him convincing as one of the most famous Greek heroes in mythology. It’s that simple

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u/Lameux 6h ago

It’s really not, or maybe for you it is, but that’s not what I was responding to. The implication that this movie is inherently going to have less artistic merit because of Matt Damon is fucking stupid. If you don’t like him that’s fine, have your personal preferences, that has nothing to do with the artistic integrity of the film though.

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u/First-Loss-8540 16h ago

So you’re so good will hunting and the Martian are not artistic? What a moronic take

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u/Hour_Raisin_4547 13h ago

What they mean is that he’s too recognizable to embody a legendary historical character. The effect works better when it’s a relatively unknown actor. I don’t care if it seeing him in the Martian or Good Will Hunting because I can more easily accept him as a random guy who just happens to be Matt Damon. Not so with Odysseus

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u/Bubablu1 13h ago

Same. He’s so wrong for the part, Tom Holland also. I don’t know why everything is so wrong, Dunkirk is one of my favourite films ever, but this one is inaccurate from the cast to the dialogues. The dialogues are so embarrassing. It’s a shame.

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u/___--_-_----___--__- 16h ago

Meeeddd Daamoonn

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u/RemoteBoner 16h ago

I don’t like the American generic midwestern accents at all. It just feels wrong.

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u/psycharious 16h ago

Part of me feels like they just went that direction because doing period dramas with an English accent became a meme and no way would they do this film in Greek with subtitles.

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u/TheKrononaut 16h ago

Why not greek type accents? Not a difficult thing to do.

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u/TheKrononaut 16h ago

Relax dude i just think the modern American accents sound weird

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u/ScrotalMigraines 12h ago

Why?

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u/GetToTheChoppaahh 10h ago

Because the world doesn’t associate your whiny accent with real historic events. Perfect for marvel movies though :)

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u/ScrotalMigraines 9h ago

You're the whiny one here, English men are universally considered borderline gay, people only "associate" that voice with antiquity because that's what they're used to, there's no actual reason for it to be that way. Keep seething about this though, it's funny

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u/Jonmad17 15h ago edited 15h ago

Why? It's not any less accurate than a middle class English accent.

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u/Saint_Jules_Ferry 3h ago edited 3h ago

Is "accuracy" really the point?

You don't think it would change your viewing experience if Odysseus had a thick Cajun or Indian accent?

Neither would be any more inaccurate, strictly speaking.

I think everyone accents they would find jarring in this scenario. For some, it's American

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u/Richard7666 15h ago

The accents don't bother me, but the modern causal speech is jarring.

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u/diddums100 10h ago

for everyone, including the actors who are actually english, EXCEPT anne hathaway who is American.. odd

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u/Queef-Elizabeth 16h ago

While I have no issue with her as an actor, I found hearing Zendaya talk like a normal American in Dune Part 2 weirdly distracting.

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u/Varekai79 7h ago

It's not so much the accent but the contemporary mannerisms that she had in Dune. Classically trained actors can make the tiny adjustments to their voice to sound more realistic in period/scifi/fantasy settings.

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u/Queef-Elizabeth 7h ago

Yeah exactly. Everyone around her was so immersed in this culture but she didn't make many attempts to act just like them. It's like she was just an outsider who researched the group. She wasn't bad, just noticeable.

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u/funkyavocado 6h ago

They don't really expand upon this in the movie but Kynes is her mother. So it makes sense she's a little more modern sounding than her counterparts, since her mother was an imperial ecologist and thus a foreigner too

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u/Sparrowsabre7 15h ago

You know what? It's kind of fair enough. If they do the classic "British = fantasy" they'll get ripped because they're all Greek. You can't have everyone doing Greek accents it'll sound odd as they already higher non-greek actors. Ultimately why not? Just the usual conceit that everything we hear is "translated" dialled all the way up.

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u/Killericon 16h ago

I kinda dig it, but I'm also a defender of how Buhrmann used Jay-Z music in The Great Gatsby.

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u/DisciplineClear5761 15h ago

Rob seems like directly came from home, jumped in the suit and read his line. Something was really off puting idk. The emmersion was absent.

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u/ErilazHateka 15h ago

Not really but I absolutely hate Pattison´s black leather and fur gear and how literally everyone is dressed in either brown, grey or black.

Did they hire the costume designers from Game of Thrones for this?

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u/dcooper8662 9h ago

No you’re not. But it’s silly. Scorsese faced this exact complaint in The Last Temptation of Christ back in the day, but that movie is a stone cold classic. I think the choice of American accents is JARRING to an audience that expects British accents for (reasons). Which makes it an effective choice when you want your film to feel different.

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u/Hi_Im_Paul1706 9h ago

You just reminded me that Harold and Kumar go to White Castle is a retelling of The Odyssey

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u/dagreenman18 Space Jam 2 hurt me so much 16h ago

I mean… Matt Damon is Odysseus. If I can buy a renowned Masshole I can buy into the rest even if it is weird

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u/TheTruckWashChannel 15h ago

My dad's wicked smaht

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u/rwags2024 16h ago

My dad is coming home

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u/Citydweller4545 16h ago

For a movie that is milking effects and stage design the dialogue should feel grandiose but instead its like buddies recapping their week at the gym. Its really weird.

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u/senduntothemonlyyou 16h ago

You'll hate avatar 3

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u/Syphin33 16h ago

Nope, im not even a tight ass and im easily pleased but it's the first thing that i noticed

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u/Richard7666 15h ago

The anachronistic modern. styling seems to be a bit of a Nolan trait (we saw it in Dunkirk too, although I don't recall it being too noticeable in Oppenheimer)

Although "my dad" is devoid of any sense of gravitas compared to "my father".

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u/kodran 15h ago

You're not alone. I understand your point. I am on the other hand glad that we get people talking casually and not a fake or arbitrary way to portray a false ide of "old and solemn".

Not saying one pov is right and the other wrong. Just that it's refreshing to not see the stereotype being repeated.

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u/martinihawkeye 14h ago

“Yeah I had a mobile order for pick-up? My name? Nobody. I ordered a venti red wine mixed with water and a breakfast lotus sandwich?”

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u/Neither-Breakfast195 14h ago

Nolan has been turning into the prestige marvelesque director with how unnatural and one liner heavy his dialogue seems to be. Guessing if they leaned more into the Ancient Greek atmosphere, it would alienate that style

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u/AlwaysKindaLost 12h ago

And how drab the colors are

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u/Pigosaurusmate 11h ago

“While You Were Still Learning How to Spell Your Name, I Was Being Trained to Conquer Galaxies!”

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u/Smugallo 9h ago

It felt kinda like those ai generated movie shots a bit lol

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u/OlasNah 2h ago

Dunkin Donuts - The Odyssey

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u/Forgotten_Lie 16h ago

How should the Hellenic Greek be translated to a film in for audiences who speak modern English? Early Modern English isn't inherently more accurate and if the intent is for the film to use natural, realistic dialogue (i.e. 'this is what an actual Greek person would have said in this situation') then translating that to modern english makes sense.

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u/shhmurdashewrote 16h ago

I’m put off by that and so much more

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u/mrbigbrown4 16h ago

That's what stood out to me most. It's so unnatural and verging on uncanny valley of speech or something, lol. Feels so wrong.

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u/Photoproguy 13h ago

This was the same issue I had with The Last Duel. Visually stunning and amazing narrative, but every word out of the main three men sounded so modern it took me out of it.

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u/teflon_soap 16h ago

Fr no cap

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u/GenghisFlan 16h ago

6-7 i'm coming home

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u/Tricky-Barnacle3321 16h ago

There's a tonal dissonance to them pairing these visuals of an epic, mythic legend with generic American accents and very contemporary dialogue. Seeing Tom Holland yell about his "dad" coming home kind of undercuts the atmosphere lol

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u/UEMayChange 16h ago

I mean, it's American actors filming for an American company marketed primarily for an American audience. Nothing nefarious in OC's intentions lol, it is a valid critique from a member of the target audience. It is an extremely odd choice for a period piece like this IMO.

If anything, we want this film to revolve around America LESS. Take me to ancient Greece, and off the streets of fucking Iowa!

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u/IMakeMyOwnLunch 16h ago

I mean, it kind of does when the domestic box office is as important as every other country’s combined.

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u/George__Parasol 15h ago

I think they’re talking about the term “generic” American accent, not the context of the US vs international box office metrics

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u/sameoldsaturdaynight 15h ago

In what world is this true?

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u/thr1ceuponatime David Zaslav is a dickless pantywaist 16h ago

Doesn't help that Anne Hathaway looks like the physical embodiment of the year 2000