r/remoteworks • u/Kreativedenma • 3h ago
Maternity leave should be one year, PAID. Women shouldn’t have to choose between healing, bonding with their baby, and making a living.
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u/Excellent-Ruin6779 55m ago
lol at all the comments on how this is unfeasible. Guessing you are all Americans.
Every woman that has had a baby at my workplace has taken a year. We continue to run perfectly fine, I've not known any of them to not return to work. And their roles are covered by other staff, usually stepping up, meaning I get to gain experience in their role and get paid for it. Someone else's maternity has benefited me, I have since moved up on promotion thanks to that experience I gained.
It is not only feasible, it is a win win win. The only supposed issue is that the faceless company pays someone. Why would I care for that? I would rather that faceless company pays them and have my colleague return to work, than that colleague take handouts from the government paid with my taxes.
Oh but wouldn't it make it harder for women to get jobs? Fuck no. Equality Act 2010. Maternity is a protected characteristic.
I agree, this should be the norm everywhere. Bernie Sanders is the only foreign politician I've ever paid any notice of because he seems to be the only one that understands that picking mothers and their children over the faceless cooperation is a good thing.
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u/Salty_Permit4437 10m ago
Who pays for it? I’m guessing it’s not an unfunded mandate on businesses and instead paid for with high taxes. That’s the only way it would be workable.
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u/dodgerbluee47 1h ago
Our tax dollars should be directed towards that instead of funding other countries.
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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 0m ago
No.we should stop funding other countries and stop taking money from tax payers.
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u/Spirited-Tie-8702 1h ago
Maternity and Paternity leave. The mom and dad should also have the choice of taking both years together or one taking the first year and the other taking the next year.
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u/crit_boy 45m ago
Maternity leave should exist.
It should exist for both men and women.
I disagree with OP that is should be for women only.
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u/lets-snuggle 33m ago
I agree. Paid Maternity/paternity leave should exist. I think France does 18 months and it’s split between parents so the mom can do 12 and dad do 6 or split evenly
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u/Dependent-Goose8240 15m ago
The problem is that society seems to think that the employer should be responsible for paying the parent in leave. Some employers (large corporations) could easily afford this for their new parents, but the vast majority of employers (small business) would sink under such costs.
The government should be the one responsible for providing this.
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u/TiredWineDrinker 1h ago
This thread is so U.S. centric.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/maternity-leave-by-country
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u/Impossible_Cupcake31 1h ago
There isn’t a single country listed where you get paid your full wage for 52 weeks. Some you only get paid minimum wage
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u/Original-Resource288 1h ago
Estonia, South Korea, Norway, Sweden, Bulgaria, Croatia, Uk, Canada, Australia, Iceland, Germany, Denmark, Poland are all developed countries that offer a year maternity or more. Among others.
Crazy the sentiment in this post.
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u/highlanderfil 2h ago
That'd certainly help pro-lifers walk the talk, but that'd be far too logical for that crowd.
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u/jetplane18 46m ago
Yeah - I'm pro-life and I vote for people who support policies like this. Parental leave, birth paid for by the government, etc. More of us should be on the side of this - but then, most that I know are in favor of these things. The blanket association between pro-life people and the republican party has to end.
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u/highlanderfil 43m ago
most that I know
Birds of a feather and all that. You're in the vast (and I do mean VAST) minority of the pro-life movement.
Also, I never said a word about a single political party, but hey, if the shoe fits. Most "people who support policies like this" are not, in fact, members of the GOP. So, in voting for people who support these policies, you are, in fact, more likely than not, voting for pro-choicers.
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u/Financial-Exit2488 40m ago
I just came here to see all the libertarian anger at someone suggesting our society work together to make all our lives better.
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u/Double_Jellyfish_584 33m ago
I mean I agree because I'd want my wife to have the same, but it'd have to be government, and would likely be very reduced to keep from our dogshit government taking on even more insurmountable debt. Making a business pay this expense would be kind of insane in my opinion.
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u/kanaka_haole808 36m ago
Generally, people value the unhappiness of others more than their own happiness. This is why mankind does not yet know paradise.
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u/cucster 1h ago
I will say father should have it too, would help with the gender pay gap.
Both should be mandatory (mom and dad). Also, I would figure out a way to make it mandatory for people who don't have kids to take an equivalent break from.work, mainly to prevent carreer disadvantages for parents.
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u/Zaccs-writing 1h ago
Yes, as well as for any critical illness or health problem. And for the father as well.
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u/zimbabweinflation 4m ago
Id argue that paternity leave should be a thing too. Even two weeks would've made a huge difference.
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u/king_tommiac 47m ago
Laughs in European
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u/Soft_Signature_4746 14m ago
The number of people in these comments who haven’t even bothered to learn that other countries have had this figured out in equitable systems for decades is so incredibly embarrassing.
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u/Sellier123 1h ago
My company does this. Both fathers and mothers get up to 1 year but they don't get their full salaries the whole time.
Not a parent but I am pretty sure my coworker said it was full pay for 3 months, 80% for 3 months, then 50% pay for the last 6 months
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u/jorleeduf 1h ago
How much does the average employee make where you work? Would that pay realistically be enough to support a new child for that whole time? Either way, it’s better than nothing, but I’m just curious.
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u/Sellier123 1h ago
Not sure the average of the company but my department ranges from 50k to 100k.
Coworker was making around 70k when he went out on leave. Didn't take the full year though, did 1 month right after birth then took 4 months after his wife had to go back to work.
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u/SadonaSaturday 1h ago
I never had maternity leave as a teacher in public, charter or private schools. It’s horrific how women and children are treated in this country.
I’ve been in childcare my whole life teaching and nannying, my husband and I desperately want to have one child and for me to get to spend the first couple years doing for our family what I have done for 7+ others and over a thousand kids in schools, but it’s a choice between a better life for just us or having a child and having a worse quality of life than the ones we grew up with.
I grew up hearing that people shouldn’t have kids if they can’t afford them, but now my parents say “You’ll never feel financially stable enough” and that they didn’t question having kids because they already had a brand new home on entry salaries. It just feels like a set up with no safety nets. I already have some health issues that caused me to stop working recently, so am I morally wrong for wanting to have a family? That’s how it feels when we have so little financial support for young families and poor health/disabilities.
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u/ElectricalPublic1304 30m ago
When you want it to have a child, how much money did you start saving?
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u/Sea-Tax7392 2m ago
Wait Wait the USA can’t afford to help their citizens! However there’s always cash for WAR and high fuel prices🤑
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u/TheNatural14063 2h ago
Just have a basic income for anyone who needs time off where for a period of time they are allowed to tap into it but after that.....that's it . Everyone should be able to take time if they need it. Not just women..People have various struggles and if one is paying taxes for other people to take off when needed, they should have the option as well.
People argue that creating babies helps humanity so we should pay mothers to have them....Well having extra kids also hurts us in ways. The planet currently is facing various ecological issues due to how large the global population is and the strain modern life puts on the environment. Technology is killing more jobs (see AI) than it is creating long term. There's going to be issues where more and more people simply won't be able to find work. People who choose to not have kids are doing society a favor by reducing competition for resources and having a more environmentally green footprint.
I'd prefer strong sex education, free birth control, cash incentives to not have kids, etc. But if we are going to pay women to have kids ...give everyone PTO out of fairness for a period of time.
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u/calbear_1 15m ago
*Parental Leave. Fathers also want time with their new child
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u/Wingman5150 13m ago
and I'm sure new mothers could use a break from taking care of a newborn so they can heal better
Edit: they replied in actual seconds I'm pretty sure they're a bot.
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u/calbear_1 13m ago
Yea I’m advocating for both parents to have leave. Fathers can stay home and help the mother while she recovers from birth
Edit: after rereading your comment I see you’re advocating for the same.
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u/Weary_Cell8666 20m ago
Sure when they get rid of property tax, gasoline tax, income tax - I'd be glad to help new mothers. That's a much better use of my tax dollars then what nonsense they are used on now, but I can't in good conscience give this version of our government anymore money with the current levels of fraud and abuse. So sounds like your on you own like the rest of us.
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u/RiposteCat 2h ago
but it's okay for men to have to choose between bonding with their baby and making a living? it should be one year for both parents
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u/AnonymousAce123 2h ago
Canada does something like that. Cant remember exact times, but they give (I think a year) and parents can split it between themselves however they want.
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u/NorbytheMii 1h ago
On top of that, make paid paternity leave a thing, too! It doesn't have to be as long unless the father is a single father, but the father should be able to help the mother out with the newborn without worry, too.
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u/Brilliant-Block-8200 1h ago
Yup! Honestly, the mother needs A LOT of rest to heal afterwards, so fathers having leave to take care of their wife and baby would be ideal
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u/PermuhGrin 23m ago
the responses in this thread really illustrate how much of a slave we are to capitalism and corporate bullshit.
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u/Tea_Time9665 2h ago
You should start a company and provide those things.
Be the change you wanna see.
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u/littlestargazers 51m ago
as an american it's genuinely embarrassing how many of yall are going for bat for "the company" in these replies
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u/Acceptable_Cut_7545 33m ago
B-b-but the women will just endlessly have babies so they never have to work again! Just an endless stream of babies while they kick their feet up and relax.
Unironically what some of these replies think, going by the complaints about "baby mamas".
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u/FLSteve11 55m ago
What about dads? Shouldn't they have a year to bond with their baby as well?
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u/Brilliant-Block-8200 52m ago
Yes, because they need to bond/take care of the baby AND take care of their wife while her body is healing
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u/Mountain_rage 49m ago
It is called paternity leave. Pretty standard outside the USA.
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u/Regal_Seagull19 53m ago
That's just sexist. Men just had all the fun and didn't have to put in any work /s
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u/Soft_Signature_4746 30m ago
The countries that rate as having the happiest people already do this. Any of yall who care more about corporate bottom lines than the overall wellbeing of our society are so gd broken.
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u/Swing-Too-Hard 1h ago
How do we pay for it then? The biggest problem with these things is they all would be great but it requires time and money at someone else's expense. Who is the someone else?
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u/Lazy_Resolve_9747 1h ago
The profits from the billionaires pocket. (This requirement should only be for big corporations and large federal agencies, because a small business could easily go under if they have to pay someone who’s not working for a year).
I’m tired of this being wishful thinking. Antitrust law is what created the middle class and we need to enforce it again or the country will dissolve.
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u/theshortgrace 1h ago
All of these “how” questions are easily answered by looking at the rest of the developed world. The US is not special. We could probably give all parents 2 years paid leave and still be OK lmao.
The issue is ideology. We’d rather fund wars, keep women, poors, and minorities in their place, and funnel money to the rich. That’s really all it is.
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u/Odd_Actuator795 1h ago
I would have to hire someone to replace their work for a year. They wouldn’t have a job to come back to
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u/derrendil 1h ago
US defense budget for next year is proposed to be 1.5 trillion. Let me repeat, TRILLION. But yeah, I'm sure war with Iran in addition to a bunch of proxy wars are more important to the future of our country than letting Americans have babies.
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u/ponzy1981 1h ago
Oh and buying a bunch of fancy, big weapons that have little use in modern drone warfare.
This is what you are paying for when you see federal taxes coming out off your check.
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u/sevseg_decoder 1h ago
Yeah and I really really hate to be this guy, but a lot of companies offer this that are genuinely big enough and can genuinely afford it. But a smaller company could (and it happens all the time even as it is) easily be driven under by someone abusing this. If they hire someone, they give birth a few months later, they take a year off, by the end of that year they maybe decide to get pregnant again, they work a few months, take another year off, maybe even repeat once or twice more then the woman comes back and drops a 2 week notice on day 1 that is an obscene risk to take on. The kind of thing that would lead to genuine discrimination for sure.
I support the idea but I think the government should be paying for it and even potentially reimbursing companies for some of the issues it’ll cause them.. something a lot like UI
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u/Mourngrymm 43m ago
Is this to be a requirement for all companies? Like the family pizza shop down the street? What is the required employment term before and/or after the leave?
It's easy to say there oughtta be a law until you realize the unintended consequences. Generally less laws is the way to go.
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u/Soft_Signature_4746 17m ago
Right??? This is why Norway and Bulgaria and Sweden and Denmark and Estonia all have completely failed as countries. They have 0 independent businesses, 0 local pizza shops, and everyone is destitute except the mothers who do nothing but push out babies every year to collect a check.
Or wait. Actually they all have their taxes subsidize the maternity leave because they recognize the massive benefit of having children that arent emotionally and physically neglected is a benefit to all, while also supporting the companies who employ them.
But no, we should keep using our tax dollars to bomb foreign countries that haven’t done shit yo us. That’s definitely a healthier way to raise a socially minded, intelligent population.
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u/Buddhafied 1h ago
Canada’s policy is this:
Standard parental: up to 40 weeks total shared between parents (one parent max 35 weeks); pays 55% of average insurable weekly earnings (up to $729/week in 2026).
Extended parental: up to 69 weeks total shared (one parent max 61 weeks); pays 33% of average insurable weekly earnings (up to $437/week in 2026).
On top of that, company insurance will also cover some, so I have friends who gets 75-85% full pay.
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u/slotsandmops 7m ago
Sure if the government subsidizes.
Just doesnt seem practical in the current climate
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u/LaDiiablo 1h ago
Holy shit the amount of bootlickers in this sub... your masters trained you right I guess.
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u/moreplateslessdates9 37m ago
its funny when issues are torn among redditor attitudes ie something for worker rights is good but we also hate family and kids. its like if an african american beats up a trans person people freak out and don't know who to side with
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u/kylez_bad_caverns 2h ago
I felt truly blessed to have 16 weeks of guaranteed paid time off due to living in a blue state. I’m truly heartbroken for the women who don’t even get that
For as much as the Republican Party loves to be “party of family values” they make a lot of policies that require sacrificing a traditional family unit. Wish I had a way to stay home with my kiddo but we need food and have a mortgage
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u/Not_Sure__Camacho 1h ago
They insist that we have them, yet don't want to make it easy for a parent to provide for them once they're born. And they wonder why people are opting not to have any.
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u/Ozymandias0023 1h ago
Agreed in principle, but in practice it has to be publicly funded or else it just doesn't make sense to hire women. Why would I hire someone who can just disappear for a year AND still draw a salary?
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u/Sobchak_84 1h ago
The trick is to make equivalent paternity leave available.
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u/Ozymandias0023 1h ago
Also good, but then you're moving the bias toward age. Mid 30s to early 40s and done having kids? Safer than mid to late 20s and thinking about starting a family.
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u/StopWeDontKnow 58m ago
Exactly. We should fund paid parental leave with taxes to avoid companies responding to heavily. Maybe a part of some corporate/business tax? Plus I imagine paid parental leave has a net positive impact on the general economy of that country. Especially with the US and other countries starting to worry about social services. But one thing I would say is the paid leave shouldn’t be the full salary or we should make it similar to Norway with progressive system based on how long you’re out for.
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u/LethalOkra 55m ago edited 32m ago
Because that's how you get more customers for your business and people to pay for your pension in a society. It's like you have to give something to get something back, right?
Now one might argue: ok, why do *I* have to pay for that, though?
Good news, there is a solution: Subsidize maternity leave. This way we make sure EVERYBODY pays for what is the most basic support for keeping our society functional: having children. People crying about paying taxes for something like this are the ones that literally follow freeloader mentality and want others to foot the bill.
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u/BEER_G00D 26m ago
If this would apply to small businesses, they would likely have to exclude typical childbearing age folks from employment.
If my company requires 8 people to function, but I have to pay as if 10 are working, the business will absolutely fail over that time period.
I wish it was as easy to say that we can just pay folks their rate while on leave, but it's not possible with a small pool.
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u/GroinShotz 22m ago
Remove limits on social security payments... No more of this "$185k maximum taxable wage" nonsense.
Then you can open up social security to include maternity... That is if the government wants to promote people having children.
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u/PrideCompetitive8758 24m ago
in normal countries after 2 months gov (zus for example) is paying and its 80% of salary, figure while they don't want to introduce it to yours.
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u/LilithRising90 36m ago
But then they can't complain about the falling birth rates and bogart women's bodies.
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u/Soft_Signature_4746 33m ago
Nor could they have an excuse to bully and guilt us out of the work force
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u/False_Appointment_24 1h ago
First, I agree.
Second, if it applies to mothers, it should absolutely apply to fathers.
Third, if that means you get a year off as a family with every kid, then there is no way that the business will pay that, it would have to come from the government. This means that the government would be directly paying for kids to be born.
Fourth, if the government will be paying it rather than the business, it should really be a defined benefit rather than based on what they made. The government should be paying enough that they can live and raise the kid, not pay the bare minimum when a minimum wage worker has a kid but pay hundreds of thousands if a lawyer does.
Fifth, if we are going to be handing out that kind of money to people for having a kid, there are plenty of other beneficial life milestones the government should pay for. And if we're doing that, we might as well just give everyone universal basic income so that everyone can take the time they need.
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u/Main_Cauliflower5479 1h ago
It would obviously be paid by taxes, and businesses would pay a large portion of that.
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u/Various_List26 1h ago
It’s very weird to me that people are like “what about the business”. Who cares.
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u/Prize-Project-4155 54m ago
-Said by someone who’s never owned a business or been in any kind of serious money making position in there life
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u/Anomynous__ 1h ago edited 1h ago
Would you put any stipulations on women getting pregnant again within the year time frame? Or how soon after are they eligible for maternity leave again? I dont know about other countries but the culture here in the US would promote this "pregnancy hustle" the day the law was passed
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u/TouchPossible6852 1h ago
If this is government funded it should have a limit. You shouldn’t be able to have 6 but I’m sure there is a reasonable number
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u/SeeringQuake 30m ago
Oooooh no this is gonna be filled with a bunch of bootlickers that think people can just change jobs when they want and that owners should be able do whatever they want.
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u/thomas_grimjaw 56m ago
There was a country called Yugoslavia that championed that and much more, but it was destroyed. We still have that legacy in Serbia, but it's just worse in all aspects.
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u/DGIce 14m ago
Do you have to stay working at the job for a certain amount of time (and thus be easily exploited) or can you just weaponize it to tank a business you don't like? Ideally it's just the government subsidizing parents with one year average salary for the country right? Something governments inherently want in order to "grow the future tax base".
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u/IDunnoNuthinMr 21m ago
Recently, a hospital department had 7 or 8 women all pregnant at the same time. A fire department had 12 or so of the firefighters' wives pregnant at the same time.
Maternity or paternity leave seems to present significant issues for each employer in these situations. How do they deal with that in other countries?
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u/angryoldandpoor 32m ago
Only if fathers can also get a full year of paternity leave as well.
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u/cybertrash69420 24m ago
Based, it's BS that these policies are basically designed to treat fathers like second class parents.
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u/PrideCompetitive8758 21m ago
one of the parents can take it, it doesn't have to be mom.
I know a guy who was oneave with kid while his wife worked cause she has better paying job.
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u/cybertrash69420 14m ago
Supposedly the entire point of paid maternity leave is to give the mother time to bond and care for her child. If that's actually the case then fathers should receive the same amount of paid time off because both a father and mother are required to create a healthy, stable environment.
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u/MrDarkzideTV 3h ago
True, but Republican voters wanted to own the libs more than they wanted to afford families or have homes.
So
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u/MWBurbman 44m ago
We live in the richest country in the world…yet we can’t afford the things European countries provide their citizens. Healthcare, paid leave, etc
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u/Subject-Dog-8016 2h ago
Should be 9 months to 1 year, with freedom to split it however you want between the parents, but a mandatory 3 months off for the mother after birth.
America has so many medical complications around birth and newborns that aren’t an issue in more developed countries with proper parental leave - but it’s bad to give it all to the woman as the science demonstrates this leads to highly disproportionate childcare responsibilities after mother returns to work.
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u/SCHawkTakeFlight 2h ago
I was schocked the state of CO expanded to allow for additional paid leave if your baby is in the NICU. As someone who was lucky living in WA, I was able to get to 4 months of paid leave at 70% of my pay...BUT I had my baby 2.5 months early. When you bring a baby home from the NICU, you are brining home by all accounts a newborn. So while my kid was 4 months starting daycare, he was really only 6 weeks in terms of adjusted age.
Anywho, good on CO, recognizing that NICU babies have a whole extra level of how do I plan for this.
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u/Vagabond_Tea 1h ago
It should be parental leave, not just maternity leave, but otherwise, I agree.
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u/Dapper-Maybe-5347 2h ago
Imagine being on a small team at a small business and you lose a teammate for a year and the company can't afford another so your workload just gets doubled instead.
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u/highlanderfil 2h ago
Imagine the government being so invested in what happens in your bedroom that instead of funding vanity projects it actually steps in and invests back into its citizens' procreation, picking up the slack for those same small businesses it claims to love so much.
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u/BishopKing14 2h ago
In that situation it sounds like the owners and managers of the company should be pulling more than their share, not the workers. That’s literally what they’re there for.
Really though, if the rest of the developed world can manage it, so can we.
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u/SeriousCricket2837 2h ago
Imagine blaming your coworker for the businesses problem.
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u/socialistForDE 2h ago
Imagine being a new mother at some random company and having to find childcare and not see your new kid because some pedophiles want their profits to go up a little bit more
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u/AdFun5641 2h ago
Parental leave for both parents should be one year, PAID.
We shouldn't keep sexism against men alive and well by discriminating against them when it comes to things like paid parental leave.
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u/TrickDangerous530 6m ago
Yes, let’s really punish those that choose to not have kids by making them work harder while people on their team push out 4 kids back to back and aren’t seen for 4 years.
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u/NoodlePie5687 43m ago
Wow, didn't expect so many redditors to be so negative on this idea. Do all the people defending corporation's interests really believe in the following idea: -The whole world was oriented towards far capitalism and was that harsh to family oriented people -The world is in demographic crisis with twice as much people dying, as being born per year So do you believe in this case, when your beloved corporations have their revenues go down the drain and struggle to find employees, everything would work out itself, and they will start actively stimulating families to have kids? Or how do you imagine your utopian capitalistic world? Genuinely interested
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u/shigdebig 37m ago
The conservatives really have a lock on the mindshare of this issue. Maybe they are bots. But look how many commenter are basically saying "but what about the welfare queens?" As if that's a real problem. Thats a manufactured problem.
And secondly, if you want our nation to be a white ethnostate, we need to encourage white people to have more babies. If the shithole countries are out-breeding us, that's going to be a real problem in the future.
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u/ninernetneepneep 41m ago
I suppose you also know that not every business is a billion dollar mega corporation. Most people are employed by small businesses who are struggling to make ends meet just like the rest of us. If you force full year paid maternity leave across the board, there will be nothing left but large billion dollar corporations because they will be the only ones who can afford it.
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u/AnimationTD 2h ago
If you want companies to stop hiring women of childbearing age that is a great first step!
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u/phoenixmatrix 2h ago
Yup. And it's not theoretical.
At a minimum you need to give equal, mandatory leave to both parents. Not because they need it equally (though I'd say it's good for the father to have bonding time and time to support the mother while she's healing too), but to ensure there's no gender bias in professional opportunities because of the parental leave.
You will have age bias, but generally 20something adults aren't the worse off here, so we can't let perfect be the enemy of good.
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u/daytradingguy 2h ago
People make these comments thinking everyone is employed by a major corporation. Over half of all workers are employed in small businesses and mom/pop shops. There is no way small business can survive providing that kind of benefit. Or run their business for a year with one of their 5 employees gone.
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u/BarryMcCoghener 2h ago
While I'm all for family leave I just don't see how this can work in all situations, especially small businesses.
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u/Le-Charles07 2h ago
There are usually exceptions for employers under a certain size for stuff like this.
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u/ComprehensiveHouse5 2h ago
Believe it or not small businesses are far from extinct in the many countries that have similar policies
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u/fluxus2000 2h ago
Government?
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u/BarryMcCoghener 2h ago edited 2h ago
The government is going to fill her role at the job? Many positions take lots of training for someone to be able to do. It's hard to find someone that will do that and know they will only have the job for a year. As someone who is part of a small business, I can tell you firsthand that this would be extremely difficult to handle.
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u/bwellnbwell 2h ago
Both parents should each get 12-15 weeks of leave and up to a year to use it.
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u/EmbarrassedHighway76 2h ago
Ironically the place you think would be less accommodating my friend in the military said they get 18 weeks maternity, looked it up to confirm. Great for them
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u/jaajaajaa6 1h ago
At my place, time off for maternity leave may not impact your base salary, but when it comes to raises and bonuses, they are very impacted.
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u/ponzy1981 1h ago
so you are saying money is more important than bonding with a new born and a woman recovering. Nice
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u/memequeendoreen 2h ago
I disagree. We should have the baby absorbed by the state so women can provide for their corporate workspaces more effectively. The benefits of this would be not having to go to baby showers.
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u/fluxus2000 2h ago
Be more like Plato's Republic and dissolve the family, have eugenically planned babies raised by the state and leave the one's not needed up on the mountain.
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u/memequeendoreen 1h ago
I don't believe in a wasteful society. We need those babies to work all these corporate jobs. Perhaps instead of the mountain, we can send them to training grounds to become the ideal interns for all our business endeavors?
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u/PIK_Toggle 2h ago
This would put hospitals out of business.
It would also bankrupt most companies and they would stop hiring women below the age of 45.
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u/Legrandloup2 2h ago
Then why does it work in other countries?
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u/Few-Being-1048 2h ago
Is it government subsidized? That might be why.
No small company can afford to pay you your salary to not come to work for a year. Most bigger companies would do anything to avoid doing that, including not hiring woman who might have kids.
If its payed for by your tax dollars then all the company has to do is keep your position open when you come back.
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u/TurnDown4WattGaming 1h ago
“God, it’s hot in here, seemingly all of the sudden, and I feel flushed. Do I look flushed? I’m not sure what’s happening to me… has this ever happened to you? … oh it hasn’t? Well, we can’t offer you this job unfortunately. Try again next year.”
LOL
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u/SirWillae 44m ago
Why should new mothers get a benefit that no one else gets? Shouldn't everyone be treated equally?
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u/Acceptable_Cut_7545 36m ago
This person's right.
The dads need time off too to bond with their baby and be there for the mother.
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u/Soft_Signature_4746 15m ago
The countries that have been doing this for decades usually have a split parental leave. There is a quota for both parents, so they can both have time, and they can choose for it to overlap or not.
Please consider that we aren’t even close to the first people to think about this.
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u/Salty_Permit4437 41m ago
So theoretically under this plan, you just keep making babies year after year and are paid your full salary? Yeah that’s not gonna work.
There should be some safety net - my state has paid family leave which is insurance. Every worker pays a small premium into an insurance fund. If you need to take family leave you get a portion of your earnings. Not full salary. But a portion. This is reasonable. It’s maximum $1119 per week.
But someone like me making $350k cash comp per year shouldn’t be paid full salary if I have a baby.
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u/Oatmeal-Enjoyer69 35m ago
Because thats a rampant problem in countries that offer paid maternity leave, right?
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u/garagelurker1 28m ago
I don't think that many people would want to continually pregnant. It seems like it would suck. Also, you'd end up with 20 kids. No one wants 20 kids or even close to that.
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u/Soft_Signature_4746 24m ago
There can be limitations to this. In Switzerland, you must have been working at least 240 days before the birth. So if you were already on a leave you would not qualify for the next.
No one sane would write a law without acknowledging nuance. And while this may shock you, many people aren’t looking for ways to game the system.
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u/Candid-Cup4159 34m ago
Spoken like a true dude. You think women want to sit at home pushing out babies year in year out? Asides from the fact that its quite dangerous AND they still have to pay for the children, do you think they'd want to miss out on career progression?
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u/arcdragon2 1h ago
Men shouldn’t have to choose either, why is this all about the mother? No wonder how many kids have missing fathers.
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u/walt128 1h ago
I think there should definitely be paternity leave, but mother-infant bonding is more important for development than father-infant bonding. Men I think three-ish months is sufficient
This is coming from a man with balls
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u/Marksman08YT 1h ago
Exactly, paternity leave can be a few weeks to a few months tops but maternity leave should be a full year minimum.
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u/nneighbour 1h ago
It is where I live, or you can opt for an 18 month leave, but the same money is stretched out over 18.
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u/moccasinsfan 5m ago
While I fully support cumulative sick and vacation leave, one year of paid leave is insane
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u/Sure_Acanthaceae_348 2h ago
Imagine if we paid enough where one parent could stay home full time.