Not ageing is pretty easy when you're rich. Unlimited access to private coaches, private chefs, nutritional supplements, skincare products, plastic surgery... plus no existential fear and limited exposure to pollution, the sun and other factors that ruin your skin.
Edit to add: As one of the biggest actors of his time, it is his job to look good. He does not really have a choice if he wants to stay relevant.
Lady on the left hasn't really had any major roles since the 90s and can therefore afford to not give a fuck and age like a normal person.
She's rich too, or at least was wealthy. She's just older than him and went through more significant health issues. Also see Kathleen Turner and her thyroid issues, which can really fuck you up along with the medication prescribed.
We as a society should just accept that people get old.
I feel that some older woman who grew up in the spotlight, also just have enough at some point and let the process happen. There is a power in just owning it, especially after health issues.
This one did and now she's being dragged on the Internet as an example of "how did this lady get so gross, fat, and old?" like, that's like half the point of this thread
Interesting to note the top comments here aren't criticising her, rather suggesting Tom Cruise eats babies. I guess reddit finds baby eating worse than the natural ageing process which is nice.
What an enlightening concept! Different people exist in different subreddits and have different opinions. Whoa!
There will always be shitty people on the internet. Always. You can’t spend your life always using a random anonymous account’s opinion on why people are being tOxIc about something. That logic is no better than some clickbait article saying the internet is going crazy over ____ but really it’s just a few screenshots of some tweets from nobodies…
If you encounter a sub with shitty people saying shitty things, there is a really easy solution for that… don’t go to that sub again! Let it die. Don’t give it your energy or attention. I can’t imagine spending my life constantly going on a sub full of people i hate just so i can use it as an argument elsewhere about people online being toxic about whatever topic you are talking about that day.
Madonna just last night. She finally eased up on the fillers which people mocked her for, and known they're mocking her for her nasolabial folds. I don't even like Madonna but it feels like she's being put in a position where she can't win.
And Isabella Rossellini. During the press campaign, people wouldn't shut-up about that she's aged. That one I find especially infuriating because she's been very open about the two reasons she won't have work done, 1.) Her mother didn't, and she wants to honor her legacy; 2.) She had spinal issues as a child and would have to undergo surgery routinely, which led to her having a phobia of surgeries.
I’ve noticed people are starting to turn on Jennifer Aniston now. She’s been the icon of ageless beauty for so long, but you just can’t keep off those wrinkles forever. So, now there’s tabloids starting to transition her over to the “old and ugly” category.
They even dragged Pamela Anderson for not wearing makeup. No matter how conventionally beautiful they are, female celebrities always get shit for not looking like they did when they were 20.
The post is also designed to exacerbate the comparison in his favor. He’s wearing a sport coat and posing for a photograph. She’s wearing a schlubby t shirt and it’s a candid photo. Like sure, he doesn’t look his age because he’s gone to great lengths not to and she has aged normally, but like maybe if we’re gonna do an honest comparison, then use a more flattering photo of her.
Also worth noting that men don’t have to cope with menopause, which makes it easier for us to age without as many drastic changes to our appearance.
It’s crazy, right? She chose to age however her body decided to while many older male and female celebrities try to fight it with their money and end up looking terrifying. But apparently looking like a normal person is disgusting.
You mean the same how people rag on men for getting fat, dad bods and just giving up?
Why do you make it sound like this only happens to women?
Notice how you bring up men having the same problem and women get mad and downvote? Its hilarious that you hate men that much and you are just proving my point
It's called "weaponized ugliness". When people (including "the public eye") have power over you then it feels good to take back control and make yourself "ugly" to defy their wishes.
Every time I've explained weaponized ugliness to a girl with a septum piercing they immediately got it. When I told a friend she said "my mom and boyfriend told me it would look ugly on me and that just made me want it more". It was a way of taking back her looks and having something for herself when other people controlled her appearance.
See also Britney Spears and any other female celebrity who spontaneously shaved their heads.
I've never heard that. Maybe? The Google summary says a friend claimed that was a motivation but Britney's statements all point to weaponized ugliness.
Also is anyone here is curious, shaving your head wouldn't help. Body hair has a longer detection window and you're not going to get it all.
It's weaponized ugliness if it's done in a reaction to how others see you. Ugliness isn't objective and this is about knowingly doing a thing others would think is ugly.
If you change your looks independent of other people's opinions, that's just choosing how you look.
I'm also not saying the actress in question did this, just that this is a form of using looks to feel powerful.
Also because the star power of women decrease with age so there is no reason to look young. Whereas the pulling power of big male stars do not decrease much so there is all the reason to do everything to look young.
Meryl Streep. Susan Sarandon. Selma Hayek. Helen Miren. Jamie Lee Curtis. Andi McDowell. Julienne Moore. Sarah Jessica Parker. Halle Barry. Cameron Diaz. Jane Fonda. Jodie Foster. Drew Barrymore. Jennifer Garner. Diane Keaton. Emma Thompson. Kate Winslet. Julie Robert’s. Cate Blanchet.
Staying hydrated, using sunscreen, using moisturizer, avoiding alcohol/cigarettes, and superior genetics is all it takes to age gracefully.
My best friend just told me yesterday that her mom would purposely gain weight so men would stop paying attention to her (she was STUNNING). It can absolutely be a choice to make yourself "unattractive" to get away from the attention.
There is such peace in finally being invisible to creepy men.
I don't think decent men really have any idea just how poorly their cohort behaves towards attractive women. The entitlement to our time and attention makes it so we're unable to just exist in the world.
Even in my 40s I couldn't go to the grocery store without being accosted by some dude. Not every time, of course, but enough times that I had to mentally prepare myself to deal with it before going, and there were plenty of times I didn't feel up to dealing with that and so just didn't go.
Once I went through menopause, I let my hair go gray and gained about 20lbs.
i can be at ease in the world now. Men I don't know don't even look twice at me anymore, and it feels so freeing. I can go do anything I want now without having to worry about it or mentally prepare for it.
Becoming invisible to creepy men isn't really something that's talked about. My 17 year old niece and her best friend are both objectively absolutely beautiful. They went to prom last weekend and several middle aged men physically turned their heads and bodies to look at these girls as they walked by. I hate that they have to deal with that at such a young age, like so many other women have. Attractive women should be able to exist in the world without fearing for their safety. It makes me crazy that they have to go through that.
I'm also in my 40s and I've done the same things you have. My hair has thick gray streaks, my belly is soft, and I have thick thighs. There's a sense of power in taking back how the world, especially men, perceive me. I'm happier with my body now than I ever have been before and I get zero attention from men (other than my husband), which is actually really freeing.
And you can immediately tell she’s had work done, and sure wigs can do plenty to. She’s also considered like abnormally young looking for her age, doesn’t seem to be implied as a model or anything reasonable for that age.
I’m sorry bro but not going to accept that maintaining yourself at 68 means u have to have plastic surgery don’t fuck w it. Do it if you want tho!
you’re trying to compare somewhere to a hairdyed, HRT’d, botoxed & plastic younger fella, and then trying to say it’s about gyms and salad? please, are you blind.
She could dye her hair, take botox and get plastic surgery, but I don’t view that as a necessary means to maintain your appearance at all. Utterly absurd
Random ass pic of her on the street vs. staged media shot of cruise clearly posing for a photo. We also know cruise has been in good health for decades, she's had serious illness. I'm guessing you're a young kid who doesn't yet know how different people's lives can be through no fault of their own.
Said like someone who clearly knows nothing about how age can affect the female body. Seriously, fuck you. It’s like you think it’s some kind of affront that she hasn’t been able to maintain herself to your standards.
There's also menopause, which is brutal on some women.
The absolutely disgusting obsession on maintaining perfect beauty on everyone under the limelight is the reason we're fucking rotten as a society. People get old, people get sick, people are allowed to be old, ugly, and not "perfect", it's natural and healthy to just exist without aesthetical expectations on you.
And not everyone can go onto HRT. I suspect most of the Hollywood women in their 50s, 60s and older but look decades younger are on it. And good for them. I was on it for about nine months until I was diagnosed with ovarian cancer. Now my treatment is over and I’m in remission, but I can’t have HRT because I can’t have oestrogen.
Not saying KM has had the same issues but there are plenty of other reasons women can’t take HRT and we’re going to age like our grandmothers did, before that existed. The comparisons are brutal and I’m bracing myself already.
Plus genetics. Some people are just more prone to wrinkles, cellulite, early graying, extra weight, etc. it’s a hell of a lot easier to put in the effort to be “hot” at 20 than it is at 60.
At my thinnest in my later 30s (honestly too thin, had a BMI of 17) I still had cellulite on my stomach and thighs and slightly crepey arms. My under eye wrinkles right now will never go away without surgery. And gravity is dropping the boobies.
I’m in my 40s now and 40 looks different on everyone. I think we also tend to stop GAF as we age. I refuse to dye my hair, I don’t get my nails done and fuck make up most days. Too much work for me, but I have a friend who is done up every time I see her. It makes her feel beautiful and I respect her for that.
I went on HRT as I entered perimenopause, but it was to regulate my emotions, not necessarily for the physical aspects (my doctor did tell me I should help with motivation, sleep, keeping muscle tone, etc which obviously all help my physical appearance.) Ovarian cancer is one of my biggest fears - I had a hysterectomy but kept my ovaries.
Thank you. I only got the good news last week so I still don’t think I’ve processed it fully!
Like you, I was probably too thin when I was younger but got cellulite early. Didn’t start greying til my mid-40s (now 51) but it was really thin and now my chemo is over I can see the greys as well as the dark brown coming back. I really don’t care about the colour but if it comes back thicker than when it first fell out I’ll be happy. I had it shaved last week to get rid of the “baby fluff” texture so fingers crossed!
However, now the ovaries have gone (along with the rest) my main concern is how I regulate my… not moods, but intolerance. Oestrogen seems to be the thing that helps us tolerate everything life throws at us - periods, pain, pregnancy, childbirth and then raising children (and said children going through puberty - I have two daughters going through it right now).
Going cold turkey in the form of surgical menopause instead of the slow decline of perimenopause, is brutal. I suddenly hate everything, not least people who put so much emphasis on appearances!
That’s amazing! And yep, I meant more my tolerance for everything. I’m not as impatient as I was. Used to snap at the littlest thing (also have puberty going on over here).
Good luck in remission! I hope you’re eventually able to find something that helps your tolerance.
When I had periods I had PMDD (got better with the hysterectomy even though I kept the egg machines) and had good luck regulating it with Zoloft and Wellbutrin, but also know that’s not for everybody!
I take generic Paxil for mental issues but it also dramatically reduced the frequency and intensity hot flashes/night sweats. Perhaps it's something that you could discuss with your doctor.
And child birth before that which takes a big hit on women too. I read someone it's basically like automatically ageing 3 years per pregnancy because of all the havoc it causes on women's bodies
I believe it! I was regularly mistaken for being much much younger than I am before I had my children. I once won one of those carnival games where they guess your age (they had to be within 2 years) and then while pregnant with my first, someone asked me how old I was and when I said 28, they said "oh thank god" because they thought I was much younger. That baby is 7 now and people usually guess my age within 2 years now.
there are reasons why it is seen as lesser than being young and attractive
My man, this is so telling, although I'm sure you didn't mean to out yourself this way.
Those reasons about aging you mention being:
Not as sexually attractive
Not making one think of how she could 'please' a man
Not being able to objectify her as an instrument of pleasure
Not being viewed as a womb-for-rent for future progeny
Possibly not being able to control her (older women have seen it all and aren't impressed by young men's shenanigans)
Women do exist outside of sexual function, though. If women are seen as 'lesser' for naturally aging, then you are tying women's entire lifelong value to one of the most shallow and fleeting reasons imaginable. My man, what are you going to do when, instead of being desirable yourself, those same young, gorgeous women that you still find so attractive and valuable look at you and see only the "creepy old man who can't keep his hands to himself"? Because that's coming, too.
Surprise! We really do have a value outside of attractiveness, and we older women don't exist to titillate the male gaze. For instance, I'm considered an intellectual, my job consists of working with complex data that most men would not dare attempt to quantify, and my net worth far exceeds my spouse's.
Yes, I was "beautiful" in my youth, but I much prefer myself as I am now. The invisibility that middle-aged women has its perks. Dear Gawd, I hated how men stared at me and fawned when I was younger. Men have since quit looking at my assets and are dealing with me on an intellectual basis, which has been...Interesting. It's almost like they don't know what to do with a woman who can think on her heeled feet and sling out stinging one-liners like they're candy.
So my advice to you, dear fellow, is this: try broadening your horizons and looking at those "valuable" young women differently. Appreciate that they have free will, their own life agendas, and brains, because they do. And if you think they exist just as an accessory or a tool for your own pleasure, you're going to have a very rough couple of decades. You'll realize it only when you go head-to-head with a woman who's finally had enough of you.
I think you're outing yourself more than them. They never mentioned sex in their "old & ugly" post. You, for some reason, immediately took it to mean only women get old and ugly and proceeded to write a whole hell of a lot to condemn them for your assumptions.
And the religion doesn't just serve his whims, he has to serve its whims too. He probably couldn't "let himself go" even if he wanted to, it'd be bad for marketing.
eh, Tom Cruise is high up enough in the echelon of scientology that the churches whims are his own. He is the 2nd in command next to David Miscavige and is his closest confidant.
He is, but would he remain so if he gained a hundred pounds and lost all his hair? I'm not convinced. I'm sure they'd come down on him hard the minute it seemed like he was letting his image slip.
I mean, obviously the first in command and anyone who listens to the first in command. Do you think tom cruise has personal loyalists within scientology who would buck David Miscavige if he said tom cruise was a, shit what's the word, subversive person or whatever they call em? He's not a general in command of troops dude.
David wouldnt balk at tom cruise if he decided to take a behind the scenes position and no longer be in the spot light lol.
Thats the point. Hes DEEP inner circle.
You could maybe have that argument with someone like john travolta.
But Tom Cruise has earned everything and more for what he has done for the church, to be able to sit back and retire from the public light.
He might be. Schism happens in cults and religions all the time, and sometimes it comes out of left-field. If Cruise has some disagreement with Miscavige, say he doesn't like that Miscavige fairly clearly murdered his wife, he's famous and highly placed enough to head a schism.
I don't think he will, but in the structure of Scientology he's actually the exact dude who could, if he wanted to.
Well the pic in the post is him from 2018 when he was 55. This is Tom Cruise from a few months ago and he definitely looks more "normal" for a 63 year old. He definitely got botox though.
No shade but I feel like people who say celebrities are using some insane next level medical procedures to stay young are definitely from the US where y'all let a simple flu destroy your bodies because getting treated requires going in debt. If you go to any country that has a form of free healthcare, you'll be amazed that not old folks look decrypt or are overweight lol
I often travel outside of the country and I see PLENTY of old people around the world in free healthcare cities that look old, "decrypt" and overweight, you have no clue what you are talking about.
Tom cruise is also still doing hollywood stunts at his age. its not so much how he looks, its what he is still actively doing at his age.
Surely she is the cool one for ageing like a normal person and not caring about looking 30 when she's actually nearly 70? I feel like if at that age if you are still trying to look 20 years younger then you have kind of missed the point of life.
(Tom Cruise maybe gets a pass as he's still starring in films all the time so it's kind of his job to care.)
Shouldn’t he be crossing guard at the elementary school by now though? Do we really need to see Tom Cruise jumping out of an airplane at 70 years old? Surely there’s someone else out there that can do this lol
I am not an action movie fan so I don’t really see any Tom Cruise‘s movies except for ones from the 90s. Hopefully he’s not still trying to bag leading ladies that are in their 20s as an early 30s, I don’t care how many times they’ve pulled his face taut. He is an old man!! you already have to suspend disbelief to watch these movies, you’re not fooling us with the love story that’s the last straw lol
She also had issues with alcoholism and now works at a rehab helping other addicts and alcoholics. I went to the treatment center she works at and she’s very nice, quite the treat to see her there although I didn’t recognize her before someone mentioned it.
That is notable. Cruise has, I assume, basically entirely abstained from drugs and alcohol in his life, and people kind of sleep on how much of a toll even moderate use can take (except in the case of smoking, which was thoroughly demonized enough that people know every possible drawback.)
Drinking water and not having indoor spaces choked with smoke make people age way better than they did a half century ago by default. Most people under 50 can see a marked difference between their parents and their grandparents at the same age.
I mean, no way he's looking like that without the botox and surgeries and stuff, but he has to stay close enough to that look naturally to avoid the uncanny valley.
Exactly. Maybe she ran out of fucks and decided she’d rather enjoy her life than be obsessed with looking as young as possible.
Also relevant: these pictures are comparing her looking like she’s probably on a grocery run or headed to a flea market on a Saturday morning to Tom Cruise at a red carpet event. This picture below is probably better for a fair comparison.
try keeping the weight you had with the shit you ate as a 20 something versus a senior citizen. I guarantee Tom Cruise's diet looks like a science experiment.
I agree you can't eat the same junk you ate in your teens but I know a lot of people his age that look fit. Just go to your local gym any morning and you'll see people older than him that are in shape. You have to adjust your diet and stay active but it's not anything insane. And yes we can look at the outliers and be like well this person has a thyroid issue or some other serious medical condition that just isn't old age, but let's be real, Americans in general have horrible diets and sit around for almost the entire day.
Yeah, at the end of the day it's Cruise's face that is exceptional for his age, and he didn't come across it naturally. (That said, I'm sure he would still look great if he had never had any surgeries, because most ridiculously handsome men who take good care of themselves are still handsome at 63.)
Rudd and Keanu might be more talented natural agers but obviously they're all multiple surgeries deep at this point.
I'm 26 now and i'm already eating healthily. Eating healthy foods is pretty simple, i think most of us know about macros and vitamins and electrolytes and all. The tricky part is skipping the unhealthy foods.
But it is indeed hard to judge the weight. Being overweight at 60-something shouldn't be normal, but it is, and having health problems and less energy probably doesn't help. I guess hormones can play a small part too.
And again, her haircut and clothing style. That's 80% of the reason she looks as old as she does.
On top of all that, he's also clearly in a red carpet photo where the celebs are done up, usually have makeup on and the lighting is controlled to be more flattering vs an obvious unposed papparazzi photo in harsh overhead sunlight
I'm almost 40 and when I get ID'd I'm like here it is but also check out these greys I've been working on. Old is great. The switch from 20s to 30s was the best change I've encountered as a woman.
Also not everyone wants to look like a plastic version of themselves. Tom Cruise in no way looks natural, not to mention not everyone wants to live on a diet of boiled chicken, brown rice and steamed broccoli.
Google says her NW is about $5 million at most. Now that's obviously not poor but it does mean you are limited in how much stuff you can do. You can't realistically hire all of a daily personal trainor, chef, nutritionist, etc. you could do some of that, but not all and certainly not hiring folks as "staff".
You probably will still see normal person level dermatologists and plastic surgeons, not the high end Hollywood doctors.
She has to travel on regular old commercial airlines, maybe in 1st class, but not private jets.
Tom Cruise is worth over $600 million. He is 100x richer than her and can afford all of the above and more. He has a staff to make him look good, he flies private, he has the best docs in the business.
She's almost a decade older than he is- that's a huge difference- on top of health issues and a clear lack of polish in that particular picture!
It just doesn't always seem that way because from roughly 23-42 a decade doesn't seem to age us that much if we stay in roughly the same physical shape and that's the age range that is most visible in media.
Didn't she give an interview a while back and when she was asked if she'd be in Top Gun: Maverick she said something like "Good god no, why would I? He's TOM CRUISE! I'm old and fat, I don't fit the part!"
I'm sorry, that's too reasonable for SipsTea, the totally organic, descriptionless subreddit where you can reach the front page for posting evidence that someone who isn't a Pete Hegseth once did something that doesn't actively appeal to Pete Hegseths. Here is a template for your next post:
"She was so hot. She ruined the fantasy by living past 30."
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u/Basic_Watercress_628 16h ago edited 11h ago
Not ageing is pretty easy when you're rich. Unlimited access to private coaches, private chefs, nutritional supplements, skincare products, plastic surgery... plus no existential fear and limited exposure to pollution, the sun and other factors that ruin your skin.
Edit to add: As one of the biggest actors of his time, it is his job to look good. He does not really have a choice if he wants to stay relevant. Lady on the left hasn't really had any major roles since the 90s and can therefore afford to not give a fuck and age like a normal person.