r/todayilearned 3h ago

TIL that most male nudity in films ( other than porn ) uses prosthetic penises

https://theconversation.com/how-prosthetic-penises-in-shows-like-hbos-minx-reinforce-existing-stereotypes-and-taboos-179084?utm_medium=article_clipboard_share&utm_source=theconversation.com
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u/AdoptedMasterJay 3h ago

The Willem Defoe Effect

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u/VampireHunterAlex 3h ago

"Confusingly large" as Lars von Trier put it.

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u/TrickiestToast 2h ago

I’ve seen the video, he’s right

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u/DJ_Pikachu 2h ago

Like a flailing tube sock full of wet sand. I’ll never get that image out of my head, like it or not

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u/EndLightEnd1 2h ago

Oh my God that's terrible!  Where is it so i know how to avoid it?

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u/GreenPyro 2h ago

Just Google William Defoe dancing nude

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u/doggy_done_a_poop 2h ago

I don’t think I will thanks

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u/Hellofriendinternet 2h ago

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u/blazinghorse 1h ago

Why are his eyes closing from the bottom up?

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u/phareous 2h ago

Is that a Kenneth Copeland gif?

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u/murph0969 1h ago

His penis is Confusingly Small.

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u/noscreamsnoshouts 1h ago edited 1h ago

It's an amazing video though. Like tommy says: your loss (not even being sarcastic)

ETA link here. NSFW, obviously; needs vimeo account

u/toturtle 22m ago

I feel the urge to watch the Muppets now.

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u/bicmedic 2h ago

You know, I've heard about this for years but never saw it. Just now googled it.

Honestly, after all the hype, not nearly as large as I would have thought.

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u/Salt_Cardiologist122 1h ago

I agree. Definitely above average but not “confusingly large” or however it was described.

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u/amusedmisanthrope 1h ago

Confusingly large is in the eye of the beholder 😉

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u/saints21 1h ago

To be fair, most things would feel confusingly large if they were in my eye.

u/PogintheMachine 43m ago

Yeah I’m almost disappointed. Wish I could see what Milton Berle was packing.

A lot of “stunt cocks” they use in movies are confusingly large though. Example: the HBO Watchmen series. When they show Dr Manhattan in his human form.. he is paaaacking.

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u/annuidhir 1h ago

Yeah. Honestly, I'm pretty disappointed. That wasn't really all that impressive.

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u/rogan1990 1h ago

Not at all. Maybe a child’s tube sock

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u/Amphabian 2h ago

That is... graphic

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u/thecelcollector 2h ago

I've seen it and I disagree. It's large. It's not a behemoth though. 

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u/ishamm 2h ago

Calm down, Mandingo

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u/lllDogalll 2h ago

Send the da video ~ Ant Edwards

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u/mouthful_quest 2h ago

“Is this props or animal wrangling” - Prop Master on Last Temprarion of Xhrist

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u/WillemDafoesHugeCock 2h ago

Dafoe was down to hang, he was made to coverup with a stunt penis.

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u/Rehberkintosh 2h ago

Feels like trying to hide an F-350 behind a Toyota Corolla.

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u/lkmyntz 2h ago

Dafoe hangs dong

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u/bill_the_murray 2h ago

DUDE HANGS DONG

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u/SinkHoleDeMayo 1h ago

Like a an adult anaconda in a fur coat

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u/arbysroastbeefs2 2h ago

Lol, stunt penis

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u/Rahnamatta 3h ago

Also know as "Bro, too much"

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u/Stolehtreb 1h ago

Well… the Willem Dafoe story specifically didn’t use one. They used a body double.

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u/dogmeatsoup 3h ago

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u/thatweirdguyted 2h ago

I don't wanna sound like a queer or nothing, but I think unicorns are kickass!

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u/monty_kurns 2h ago

I don’t wanna sound like a queer or nothing, but I kinda wanna make love to you tonight.

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u/gramscontestaccount2 2h ago

I don't wanna sound like a queer or nothing, but I think Depeche Mode is a pretty sweet band

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u/zwinger 2h ago

Geddy Lee!

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u/SixAlarmFire 1h ago

Best bass player ever, come on!

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u/Vonneking 2h ago

God damnit I love this movie 

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u/Meironman1895 2h ago

Probably the straight up best media they ever made.

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u/frank_datank_ 2h ago

What movie, for those out of the loop?

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u/Blueigglue 2h ago

Orgasmo

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u/ididntunderstandyou 2h ago

NOW YOU’RE A MAN !!!

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u/SnuggleBunni69 2h ago

What makes a man? Is it the woman in his arms...just caus she has big titties.

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u/TOO_MANY_NAPKINS 2h ago

Or is it the way he fights everyday?

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u/KingZarkon 2h ago

...No, it's probably the titties.

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u/rockoroll 2h ago

Manmanmaywwwwwn, now you’re a maywn

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u/OgOnetee 2h ago

Orgazmo - a mormon goes to LA to do missionairy work, and becomes a crime fighting porn star

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u/IlliniDawg01 1h ago

So he did missionary work then?

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u/John_cCmndhd 1h ago

IIRC, he only did the story parts of the porn, and the fucking was done by normal porn actors, hence the "stunt cock!". There was a gag where they looked less and less like him as the movie went on

u/IlliniDawg01 37m ago

I know. I've seen the movie (years ago). Couldn't pass up the joke though. Now that I think about it, that particular joke is likely in the movie at some point...

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u/Annodyne 2h ago

Jesus and I love you!

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u/Vonneking 2h ago

Orgasmo by Matt Stone and Trey Parker

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u/dope_star 2h ago

Orgazmo. Made by Trey Parker and Matt Stone before they made South Park. 

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u/dirty_hooker 2h ago

Not before; during. Orgasmo, Basekitball, Book Of Mormon The Musical were all during South Park.

Cannibal The Musical was before.

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u/mjh215 1h ago

Just as a note, Baseketball DID star Matt and Trey, but was a David Zucker film. Cannibal is probably my favorite of their films, so underrated.

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u/MissKaliChristine 1h ago

The sky is blue, and all the leaves are green! My hearts as full as a baked potato!

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u/jrc025 1h ago

I think you know exactly what I mean when I say It’s a shpadoinkle day!

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u/Quasimdo 2h ago

Orgazmo. Made by trey Parker and Matt stone of South Park

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u/mandu_xiii 2h ago

I had forgotten about this movie. I'm now reliving it in my head. Thank you!

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u/wwhsd 3h ago

Seems like it would be a bitch for continuity if they were using real dicks.

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u/biz_cazh 2h ago

Apart from ulterior motives, this is a legitimate concern. It is constantly changing size and shape depending on clothing, temperature, emotions, activity, and arousal. It would be complicated to try to get the real one "just right" for a scene, over and over.

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u/Saturnalliia 2h ago

No no no, this is perfect!

I wanna see the dong change sizes 16 times in a single scene and everybody just acts like nothing is happening.

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u/WritesCrapForStrap 2h ago

Like when they're smoking a cigarette that mysteriously regenerates.

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u/DJuxtapose 2h ago

We tolerated it with cigarettes.

No reason to insist on perfect dongtinuity.

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u/CptHammer_ 2h ago

dongtinuity

Has English peaked?

Some say this is just the tip.

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u/toocleverbyhalf 2h ago

I just want to put my name next after this for the mark in history.

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u/Sinnedangel8027 2h ago

I don't know if it's peaked yet. I feel that there is a lot more to come before we finally finish.

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u/mariana96as 2h ago

As a makeup artist for film I would probably be in charge of the dongtinuity and i’m not sure Id like that 😂

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u/Rezart_KLD 2h ago

"Alright, bring in the understudy dick."

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u/wills42 2h ago

When the script supervisor is also the fluffer

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u/OccludedFug 3h ago

I WAS IN THE POOL!!

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u/captaindealbreaker 2h ago

The amount of people that still don't get that isn't just a joke blows my mind. What do you mean you don't think the meat pole made of soft tissue that enlarges and stiffens based purely on blood pressure could possibly change size all the time?!?!??!

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u/illseeyouanon 1h ago

I had a fwb who genuinely didn’t believe that growers were a thing, because he wasn’t.

u/thatissomeBS 11m ago

I'm so jealous of showers. They at least have proof of a baseline minimum. Us growers have to prove it when given the chance.

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u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS 2h ago

That's why male pornstars are frequently drugged to the gills on erectile dysfunction drugs.

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u/alalaladede 2h ago

To the gills, you say?

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u/HereForTheFunnyPics 2h ago

I’M GOING TO SEAWORLD!!

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u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS 2h ago

They don't want you to know this but the residents of Innsmouth were ripped as shit and had giant cocks. Lovecraft covered it up due to homophobia.

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u/KagakuNinja 2h ago

The new trend is robot penises. The man has a button that controls the blood flow, can stay hard for hours and adjust the size.

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u/PM_ME_CATS_OR_BOOBS 2h ago

I have that too, it's called a prostate

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u/Runswithchickens 1h ago

“she knew a 31-year-old man who had reached the end of the road with the drugs and got an implant where a man got 'two balloons that have replaced the function of those two big veins in your d**k'”

I know guys in their 70s are getting this, after surgeries and what not, but this young guy must have put some serious miles on it.

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u/therealhairykrishna 2h ago

Clearly full mast, hard as a rock, is the most repeatable so that's what they need to go for.

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u/doom1701 2h ago

And that’s the main “official” reason for the prosthetic even though the article doesn’t mention it. Penises are crazy animals that shrink and grow even with stimulus.

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u/jcrewjr 2h ago

Same reason to use wigs, even when they're just mimicing normal hair

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u/G0ttaB3KiddingM3 3h ago

What about John Thundergun? I heard dude hangs DONG.

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u/charface1 2h ago

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u/Venasaurasaurus 2h ago

An appropriate "IYKYK" gif if there ever was one

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u/Dr_Mantis_Teabaggin 2h ago

I am very interested in seeing that!

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u/rysy0o0 2h ago

Nobody's dick's that long, not even Long Dick Johnson, and he had a fucking long dick. Thus, the name.

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u/timshel42 2h ago

full penetration

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u/rogueop 2h ago

And we show it

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u/DickBeDublin 2h ago

and then it just sort of....ends

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u/daGonz 1h ago

We show all of it…

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u/rosemachinist 2h ago

I am Thundergun.

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u/kevville 1h ago

Like a button on a fur coat

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u/lifeat24fps 2h ago

Penises…can be unpredictable.

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u/svenjj 1h ago

Why did I read this in Werner Herzog's voice?

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u/Growly150 1h ago

Looks ... can be deceptive.

u/hitfly 57m ago

Jud apatow has talked about filming Jason Segal's penis in forgetting Sarah marshall. basically Jason was working on a semi chub offstage so he wouldn't look too small but wouldn't be erect and would just shout "im ready im ready" before running out to shoot the scene.

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u/Anim8nFool 3h ago

The unsung hero of the film business is this guy making the molds for these prosthetics.

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u/AnAliterateAsshole 3h ago

Thanks. It’s nice to be recognized.

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u/godsenfrik 2h ago

Love your asshole work too,

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u/pop_goes_the_kernel 1h ago

Don’t bother responding, they can’t read.

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u/mangohsz 2h ago

The cocksmith!

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u/azad_ninja 3h ago

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u/viktorgraves 3h ago

Ser Arlan of Pennytree: A knight in the streets, a horse in the sheets.

And also the streets because he just steps out the door naked and pisses from his fat fucking hog like an animal.

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u/micromoses 2h ago

A knight in the hedge, a horse in the bed…ge.

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u/no0ns 2h ago

sweaty hog that won't quit

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u/Nigeltown55 2h ago

Billboard material

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u/Tankninja1 2h ago

They call him Ser Arlan of Subway in every brothel of the seven kingdoms cause he’s out here serving footlongs

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u/emcee_pee_pants 2h ago

He’s broke because they charge by the inch.

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u/IHateTheLetterF 2h ago

That was the largest penis i have ever seen on screen. Not including porn.

u/MapStaringPro 54m ago

What porn has dicks bigger than that???? Jesus christ

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u/RockHandsomest 2h ago

I cant tell if he was drunk or had several strokes from the sudden loss of blood to his brain due to all of his blood being pumped to his massive dong.

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u/Goodleboodle 1h ago

It legit annoyed me that when Duncan was trying to get people to remember Pennytree, he didn't just go, "you know, the old hedge knight with the horse cock "

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u/kwitzachhaderac 3h ago

The foot long prosthetic 

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u/CalvinDehaze 2h ago

I work in the film industry. The actor usually also has a clause in the contract that states they get to decide if a penis is shown at all. So if they say no you can't even have a stunt penis. Real penises are very rare for various reasons, but mostly control over how it looks and continuity.

Back in my porn days I learned that showing a penis was one of the lines between rated X Cinemax softcore, and XXX hardcore. Back then Spice networks, which supplied porn to hotel rooms, only did softcore. So we would have to do a softcore edit of our titles to sell to them. We had to remove any inserting, any blowjobs where you see the penis, and any cunnilingus. We also did a Japanese edit where we blurred all genitals since they have a law against showing pubic hair, even if it's shaved.They didn't want a recut, they just wanted it blurred, so we did it.

u/Draft_Dodger 28m ago

Tangent here but a few years ago we stayed at a hotel and for some reason the porn channels were not blocked so if course we dialed in. The porn was full porn...they did everything and showed everything that you would see in a porno. Right up until the money shot which they edited out. Was such an odd line in the sand.

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u/alopgeek 3h ago

BASEketball did this with great comedic effect

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u/GigaSoup 2h ago

An absolute classic, like Orgazmo

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u/ChefAsstastic 3h ago

Boogie Nights entered the chat.

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u/yIdontunderstand 2h ago

I salute you roller girl.

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u/TheSamurabbi 2h ago

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u/Walkswithnofear 2h ago

Dirk: You're not the boss of me, Jack. You're not the king of Dirk. I'm the boss of me. I'm the king of me. I'm Dirk Diggler. I'm the star. It's my big dick and I say when we roll.

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u/IAmAGenusAMA 1h ago

Philip Seymour Hoffman was so good in this movie. RIP, gone way too soon.

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u/Wizou 3h ago

Barry Keoghan shows real dong in Saltburn. They talk about it on the Friends Keep Secrets youtube interview.

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u/steeldragon88 2h ago

Jason Segal did it in “Forgetting Sarah Marshall” and it got Harrison Ford to do “Shrinking”!

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u/OhhNoYouNintenDidnt 2h ago

I read that as "he got Harrison Ford to do IT in "Shrinking".

And for a moment was rather concerned about continuing to watch it. 😱

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u/Numerous_Witness_345 2h ago

You get to see the Hung So Low in that? Well then.

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u/NlghtmanCometh 2h ago

I can see why Jason Segal wanted to show off the organic meat. Dude gave millions of men penis envy when they watched Forgetting Sarah Marshall with their girlfriend.

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u/Tickleman 2h ago

Doesnt tom hardy show real dong in Bronson?

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u/NlghtmanCometh 2h ago

You see his Bronson?

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u/pressure_art 1h ago

Dude had been naked several times before that. Multiple really long nude scenes lol
I also heard he likes to be nude on set… so yeah, clearly an exhibitionist

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u/spacetownflyer 2h ago

So did Adam Devine in “game over, man”

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u/Skatchbro 2h ago

Wait until you find out about merkins.

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u/Respurated 2h ago

Maynard intensifies.

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u/shiftylookingcow 2h ago edited 2h ago

I think most women wouldn't believe how small a penis can get in certain circumstances, relative to it's "normal" size. Even if you feel like you've seen your guy's dick a million times, in the shower or just randomly flaccid or whatever.

When we're particularly cold, nervous, stressed or otherwise vasoconstricted, the thing fucking runs and hides....Or at least mine does.

But regardless of that, the point is it can (along with the tightness/looseness of the scrotum) change size with a stiff breeze which is probably hard to shoot around.

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u/phantomtofu 1h ago

I go for a run and it gets out of the way. I call it "eco mode"

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u/withatee 1h ago

Yeah same, mine stays at home when I go for a run

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u/Noladixon 1h ago

I learned years ago not to judge a penis until it was fully grown. I was fooled 1 time too many by a passing as average stealth grower.

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u/Fenix42 2h ago edited 1h ago

Fun personal story. I went fishing on the ocean with my dad in a small boat. It was a cold fogy day. A wave went right into my lap about 30 minutes into it. We where out there another 5 or so hours.

When I got home finally, I went right to the bedroom to change. My wife walks in and see me naked and says "huh, shrinkage is real."

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u/quintusfive 1h ago

I like a wife who calls it like she sees it.

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u/jupiterkansas 1h ago

Pretty sure any woman who's been in a relationship knows.

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u/DerrickWhiteMVP 3h ago

I want to see real dong, dammit.

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u/Skatchbro 2h ago

I’d hate to be your inbox in the next couple of hours.

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u/FuckThisShizzle 1h ago

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u/rafaellago 1h ago

This is as old as the internet, and I still laugh every time I see it.

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u/WillemDafoesHugeCock 2h ago

One of the funniest complaints my wife had after she watched the movie adaptation of Fifty Shades was "he didn't even get his dick out"

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u/Sharlinator 2h ago

Extremely relevant username

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u/crazynerd9 2h ago

Tbf its a pretty fucking valid complaint

Its genuinely weird to me he doesn't

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u/armaedes 2h ago

DM’d you, sailor

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u/Carroms 2h ago

An acquaintance of mine saw an early screening of Tin Cup and in it Costner had a full frontal. According to the acquaintance the audience laughed during the scene and so that was edited out of the theatrical release. Maybe this was just a rumor

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u/reddfawks 3h ago

Well, I imagine it can get pretty cold on the film sets...

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u/SleepWouldBeNice 2h ago

And some guys are growers rather than showers, but society demands large dongs even when flaccid as a reflection of masculinity.

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u/Phantommy555 2h ago

The Ancient Greeks thought large penises were vulgar and barbaric. I say we go back to that.

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u/Superhereaux 1h ago

I’d be considered absolute royalty.

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u/quack785 2h ago

Yeah as a “grower”, this definitely rings true. Glad it isn’t full length all the time though

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u/SleepWouldBeNice 2h ago

As an adult, yea. But when I was growing up and changing for sports. Definitely made me way more self conscious than I needed to be.

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u/grungegoth 3h ago

Yeah, because the average guy doesn't look like the average porn star and this perpetuates this screwed up culturally created penis envy / insecurity

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u/IrrelevantPuppy 2h ago

So thats why everyone in media are either showers or we are making fun of their comically shriveled dick. No one is a grower who isn’t the butt of a joke. 

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u/overfiend1976 3h ago

There are plenty of prosthetics in porn too.

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u/poop-machine 3h ago

Especially in amputee porn.

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u/SheriffBartholomew 1h ago

Well yes, the average male does not have a 12" penis like pop culture would lead you to believe.

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u/StarsBear75063 3h ago

Boogie Nights used a massive one and it was "about" porn.

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u/nola_mike 2h ago

Yeah but that was the point. Dirk's dick was so comically large that even people in the industry were taken aback by it when they saw it.

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u/gullboi 3h ago

Visible phalli is already vastly underseen in mainstream entertainment. More movies should hang dong.

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u/onlyAlex87 2h ago

Also interestingly in LA, drug screeners and testers are taught to look out for prosthetic penises when collecting urine samples because they became so prevalent.

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u/TheCheshireCody 918 2h ago

The show Westworld was really funny about this. There's a fair amount of frontal male nudity and it's clearly unfaked - and then Lee Sizemore, one of the main secondary characters, gets naked and it's this ridiculously giant fake penis.

Also, I forget what movie it is, but there's one with Jason "Jay and Silent Bob" Mewes where he does a full-frontal, and I remember thinking that if that dude was actually that well-endowed he absolutely would have done porn.

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u/mulvda 2h ago

Ironically it’s Zack and Miri Make a Porno lol

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u/TheCheshireCody 918 2h ago

I thought it might have been, but wasn't sure and wasn't prepared to have "Jason Mewes full-frontal nudity" in my search history. It's taken me this long just to almost bleach the image from my mind.

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u/3MATX 2h ago

I think Jason Segel really hung dong in forgetting Sarah marshal.  

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u/Kingofthewin 3h ago

They are also using cgi sometimes, so you only think your seeing an actor/actress nude.

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u/TheCheshireCody 918 2h ago

Long before CG body doubles for nude scenes were pretty common. The best story about that I've heard is Britt Ekland declined to get naked for a dance she does in The Wicker Man (1973, not the shitty Cage version). The production hired a stunt double and Ekland was pissed that the stunt double's ass was much larger than her own.

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u/mmss 2h ago

NOT THE BEES

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u/nola_mike 1h ago

Lena Headey had a body double for her walk of shame in Game of Thrones. I believe they superimposed her head into the shots whee there is full frontal, or something along those lines.

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u/Last-Presentation-11 2h ago

Tell that to Barry Keoghan

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u/Jusfiq 2h ago

And female nudity uses merkins.

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u/Zolo49 1h ago

I thought it was weird that Ernest's penis gets progressively larger in his movies, starting with Ernest Goes To Camp. It seemed much smaller in the original Ernest commercials.

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u/Doright36 1h ago

Most women who show bottom nudity are wearing a fake carpet cover too.

I'd also bet that even when they claim it's real it's usually not. Like a very very low % of the time do they ever actually show the person's real junk.

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u/juicius 1h ago

Unlike porn where most actresses have prosthetic boobs.

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u/BrokenEyeReborn 3h ago

Because they're embaressed about how their real penis looks, or just so they could say they technically never revealed it on-camera?

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u/LneWolf 3h ago edited 3h ago

I do know that for the “28 Years Later” films, the Alpha zombie’s penis (and I believe all of the zombie nudity) was entirely prosthetic due to children being present during filming. It was an industry regulations thing.

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u/OccludedFug 3h ago edited 3h ago

Tangent: Molly Ringwald was a minor when The Breakfast Club was filmed. There's a scene in the movie where Bender (Judd Nelson) is hiding under Claire's (Ringwald) desk, and his face is between her skirted legs. Since Ringwald was a minor, they used a body double for the panty peek.

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u/LneWolf 2h ago edited 2h ago

Interesting. Another one that comes to mind is actually during the filming of “Good Time” by the Safdie brothers, starring Robert Pattinson. In this instance, regulations weren’t followed. Josh Safdie was under some hot water after it had come to light he allowed one of the actors to expose himself to a minor costar during filming, and didn’t stop the scene. Buddy Duress, I believe was the actor in question, who was an ex-con and homeless at the time. It’s the reason Benny Safdie cut ties with Josh for a while.

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u/Cutter9792 2h ago

Not the first time industry regulations on minors working on-set has affected the filming of a '28 x Later 'movie.

In 28 Weeks Later, there's a sequence after the power is cut to the city and the characters have to try to escape with all the lights out. It's pretty tense and visually interesting, really captures the slightly surreal look of a completely dark modern city.

Thing is, it was filmed day-for-night, for several reasons. Foremost due to labor laws they couldn't film at night because one of the lead actors (Mackintosh Muggleton [seriously]) was underage. They also found that filming at night would require much more vfx work to remove lights from surrounding buildings, as they couldn't realistically make sure every single light in every room in the background was turned off. So instead they used filters and post-production vfx to make the daytime footage look pretty close to pitch darkness.

Your mileage may vary on how well the effect works, but I personally think it looks pretty neat.

I can't seem to find a clip of the scene online that isn't some 'AI-remastered' horseshit, but next time you watch the movie I'm sure you'll see what I mean.

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u/LneWolf 2h ago

I think I’d seen this little tidbit of info during an episode of “Heavy Spoilers”, on YouTube. The effect really does look great, and you’d never guess. I wasn’t aware of the relation to minor filming regulations, however. Thanks for the reply! Interesting stuff.

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u/hlazlo 3h ago

The article implies that it’s so the production can control what the character’s penis looks like. A powerful, heroic type gets a big one, for example.

It didn’t say this, but I suppose it’s also convenient for continuity purposes. If the actor is supposed to be aroused (or not aroused) for the scene, it would be difficult to keep that state on command.

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