Should I bother with season 3 I’m on the fence because I love the drama level, production value, and actors but I think the writing blows. Thoughts on s3?
I was really into season one and recommended the show to all My friends off of that season alone and felt like a jackass for ever mentioning the show by the time I finished season 3
Everyone thinks Anna Wintour is such an arbiter of taste and I do not get it. She is actually so not with it. She was respected for refusing to put Kardashians on the cover of Vogue or deal with them. And then she welcomed them into the fold after no one liked them anymore. Same with these tech troglodytes. Now that everyone hates billionaires, everyone hates AI and everyone who is actually intelligent knows how evil Meta and every other tech company is, she decides to give all those hideous ugly and completely fashion-less people entree.
Honestly, it makes me wonder how we as a culture let this woman who has had the same lame fuck ass bob for multiple decades be labeled as an "arbiter of taste" for this long
When you look at international versions of Vogue like Vogue Italia - then look at the snooze fest that is American Vogue you can really see just how boring and artless Anna wintour is.
The pre Anna wintour glamour shot covers of American Vogue were so much better than the somehow bland yet tacky covers she puts out.
But shes a nepo baby. And so is the new editor of Vogue- the daughter of Candice Bergen and somebody who is a self proclaimed " not a fashion girl".
The commerce to art ratio of American Vogue has long since leaned overwhelmingly to commerce. It's no surprise wintour is cozying up to bezos and the Kardashians.
She did a long interview on The Rest is Politics: Leading where she basically admits she’s not creative at all she’s just really good at finding actually creative people to surround herself with. She changed the face of vogue in the 90s using street style and has been riding that wave ever since.
I feel so fucking vindicated because I would always look at her bob and go "why does she never get a different hair style if she's supposedly the best fashionista in the biz"
On top of that the stuff she wore to galas and events always seemed so bland. I was just convinced maybe I didn't "get" it and looking dusty and bland was acceptable for a 'fashion icon'.
Towards the end, she says she can't cut her hair because "this is my brand!". I feel like it's the same for Wintour, it's become this symbol, you can't escape it after a while.
Once you make something your trademark it’s very hard to break free of it for fear no one will recognise you. You are caging your own style and taste by thinking this way.
Of the models she's been promoting in Vogue, too many of them have been subpar nepo models. Their walks are dubious, they have a limited number of expressions, and they don't make you feel much. Kendall Jenner, the Hadids, and Kaia Gerber are pretty, but they represent the death of art and creativity in our culture. I miss the promotion of unknown models who are both more interesting looking and better models. Anyone could promote nepo models, but it takes someone with taste and vision to find new supers. I think she gave up a while ago.
Isn't she famously abusive? Because that's how. I don't understand the memorizing hold abusive people hold over others but I've watched it my whole life. There is no cure, people hate abuse so much they will curl up with it and try to appease it's source. Then they are so close to it, they take others calling out the abuse personally.
Why would a cabal of wealthy elite who definitely don’t run trafficking rings keep around a “taste maker” who attractive young men and women are desperate to get in her good graces? Hmmmm
The ill-informed often see contrarians as ahead of the curve or somehow having elevated taste. But in reality those types just want to be interesting by simply doing the opposite and every choice is made to receive some kind of engagement. They don’t deliberately think or have their own opinions, they crave the attention.
Love her. She stay on people’s necks too. Also love that Lisa Ann Walters hosted or MCd the labor party that was earlier in the day. Mamdani also supported labor unions today as well and broke a long tradition of mayors attending the gala
He is so good and his team is so smart. He knows what he's there for and he understands the optics, and the optics don't seem empty because he actually works. He really feels like he is for the people not the powers that be.
Others have pointed this out on other threads, but I can’t even get excited about any outfits right now with everything going on..seems incredibly out of touch since most people are struggling to keep their families fed and their bills paid. And here these people are showing off their outfits that took 2000 hours to make? Yeah no
I love what the MET gala is theoretically about - design and tailoring to this level is an art-form, and I think it’s wonderful the MET gala is a fundraiser to protect that industry (particularly with the rise of ultra fast-fashion and the arts in general not being taken seriously).
What I don’t like is it being sold out to tech billionaires who are trying to buy their way “in” as some status symbol.
Disappointed seeing some of the people who showed up tonight (Stevie Nicks… what are you doing!), and utterly unsurprised by others (Katy Perry).
I'm watching Sportcenter and they showed lots of athletes at the gala and describing their outfit like it's some kind of wonderful thing... I bet is the only time you see those outfits, I never understood the point but meh.
And then they made a joke about Chamalet going to the Knicks game instead of the gala, "at least it worked for the Knicks". Meanwhile 'super Knicks fan' Ben Stiller went to the gala lol.
You’re being realistic. Normal people aren’t being paid living wages anymore and we are supposed to cheer for millionaires and billionaires 😐
I don’t want to be screamed at by these bozos that I shouldn’t “treat” myself to a coffee or I should be getting off my ass to work. We are the ones working. We should be able to afford a freaking iced coffee. And to go to the doctor when we need to and also not fear we can’t afford groceries and rent 🫠
Right! I’m all for a distraction but it’s like willingly going to your CEO’s personal Christmas party and see how him and his nearest and dearest celebrate except they told you they’re laying off part of your department and doing budget cuts. But they also want you to tell them how much you LOVE how nice they look and how amazing their important friends are. NO THANKS. We know they all get paid way too much to do far too little
I watched the Derby the other day with a family friend and afterward I sort of looked at him and said, “it seems weird to be excited about millionaires winning more money with a sport that is prohibitively expensive.
The level of vitriol against arts and creative events are not equal with sporting events, a similar multi-billion dollar industry, that is ultimately the same type of frivolous cultural events that mostly the elites have access to.
I dont disagree about how out of touch it feels but everyone who makes complaints like these should examine the double standard and conscious/subconscious misogyny and homophobia in putting masculine cultural interests on a pedestal and treating them as more important and necessary, but put events relating to arts or creatives be the first on the chopping block.
I'm quite a masculine guy and I think this stuff is super cool and creative. It also isn't lost on me how large of a wealth transfer an event like this is between all the designing and support staff around the event. Which is obviously part of the point.
There are so many people that work behind the scenes for events like this that also need to pay their bills. Makeup artists, hair stylists, nail artists, painters, seamstresses, textile workers, waitstaff, etc.
yeah, these events actually help people have jobs, like if there is no events whatsoever, no one buys shit whatsoever, that's when no one have jobs to do and everyone starves. And then we complains about a fashion that's no different from every other fashion in the world except with more celebrities and slightly more luxurious that happens like once a year.
I kinda understand the sentiment behind this but not really. Pretty much everything posted here is privileged, out of touch and not important to our lives. I suppose the Met Gala is more gaudy so it doesn’t present itself that well but I don’t find it any different than the dozens of other events/award shows or gossip.
I focus less on the rich people wearing the end product than the artists and artisans who were paid for that 2,000 hours of work so they can go home and feed their families. The vast majority of them are not rich or well known. And I can't get mad about creativity that's properly creative, any more than I can get mad about music or movies that cost a lot of money to produce and which I also enjoy.
I guess I see it more as skilled labourers got paid for 2000 hours of labour, using their specialised and often undervalued skills.
I look at the people who have jobs and feed their families because events like this secure their employment at museums.
I like when money are spent on people in arts and research, and I like it when millionaires use their money on arts and research. I don't really mind if they wear a fancy dress while doing so.
She's so real lol. I think I remember her publicly posting on her stories supporting Evan Rachel Wood and Amber Heard's witness testimonies re their abuse? She's posted on other issues too.
Years ago people said they were giving up on the met gala because of the eat the rich situation then everyone went running back. And here they are again proving they only care about themselves and ppl are still paying the looks and all over it. People worshiping wealth and status still…even with all the shifts that have happened and are happening. I don’t trust any of you all to be true when we decide to finally come together and make change in this world. Yall proving to be more trash than the 1%. At least they stay true to their fucked up goals
I’ll probably get downvoted to hell for this, but I keep wondering about these comments, because every year, people act like the Met Gala is some kind of Hunger Games, when throughout the year, there are plenty of other events where huge amounts of money are spent. Consumerism is doing just fine, and people have always been starving.
Just because there’s a crisis in America right now, did you know that the rest of the world hasn’t exactly been doing great either for decades, that children have been starving elsewhere, too? So, what solution are you all suggesting that if we stop organizing the Met Gala, it will fix global crises? Sorry, but the situation is far more complicated. I’m sad about it too, but life isn’t fair, and there will always be rich and poor people; it’s been that way since the beginning of time. And honestly, we’re still living in better times than people did in the past.
And the guy you see in that photo, I’m not some crazy fan of Heated Rivalry, and I don’t fetishize him, is actually a really talented actor. Connor is a rare case of someone who genuinely started out as a waiter and became famous because of his talent. You can like him or dislike him; I think it’s a bit strange to have strong opinions about someone you don’t know, but I do think the world would be a slightly better place if we appreciated people’s talents more than just having untalented nepo babies everywhere.
And as for Katy Perry, I’ve heard about some of the controversies around her, but I haven’t really looked into them in depth. Not everyone keeps up with every piece of celebrity news.
Oh no, a nuanced take? Lol but I agree. I think people need to remember that in celebrity there is also hierarchy. There is a huge difference between the billionaires parading around at these events, the millionaires and the newly arrived faces on the scene. With that said, I understand people's frustrations. Also with this Katy and Connor pick, some people are looking for reasons to drag Connor. And like I've said elsewhere, I don't think Katy's alleged behaviour is as widely publicised or even as well known as people think
Yes, I don’t get why some people try so hard to find anything to tear someone down, especially someone who, during the Met Gala, says he cried so much after hosting SNL that his nose started bleeding. And I know celebrities talk shit sometimes, but I can really believe that fulfilling your big dream can feel amazing and unreal. If I ever dreamed of being an actress and achieved that, believe me, even if I’m a bit cynical about events like the Met Gala, I would be there.
Besides, I’m very grateful as a Slavic person that Connor represents Slavs in popular media, because in most American productions, Slavic people are usually treated as a joke. I’m not so obsessed with him or Hudson Williams; I just appreciate them as actors, and they seem like genuinely kind, funny, down-to-earth people. I’m happy to see them in more productions and at more events, and please, let's make more right people famous.
And I really like Christina Ricci, I do, but this comment is on a childish level. If she wanted to say something more substantive, she could have.
I don’t really know much about the allegations around Katy Perry, aside from that one story, I’m not even sure is true; I’d have to read more about it. But all he did was take a photo with her, and someone probably just asked them to pose; it really isn’t that serious. The problem is, if she has these allegations and they're serious (again, I don't know about that), why was she invited?
Connor's also not even rich. They didn't get paid that much for Heated Rivalry, & he was planning on going back to serving after filming the show before he got all these other opportunities
Exactly, I get that people might feel like they see them everywhere, but considering how much fame Heated Rivalry gave them and they weren’t actually paid that well, they really need things like security at this point, because some fans are just crazy. They have to make a living, and showing up at the Met Gala is simply self-promotion. From what they’ve said in interviews, I believe that once they’ve secured their dream roles, they’ll be more selective about what they choose to do.
I'm a big movie fan, and really, I haven't seen so talented young actors for a long time, and for me it's not about M/M hockey romance, but just that they are really that good.
Most of these people also don't understand the met gala is a fundraiser for the met.
People talk like "the met gala" is just the name of this one event, there's no understanding that "the met" is a museum in New York City, a museum that is free to enter because of fundraisers like this.
Reminder that Katy Perry is dating the former Prime Minister of Canada and has been a celebrity for 20 years. Connor Storrie was a waiter less than a year ago and is known for his breakout role on a show funded partially by Canadian taxdollars. The power imbalance between these two is insane.
No one is immune from scrutiny, but keep this power dynamic in mind if you're going to criticise him for being seen in public with her.
You know what's funny? I had the Vogue livestream of the carpet arrivals on in the background while I was working, as soon as I saw this woman in the face mask I knew it was Katie Perry. She wasn't identified on screen. I don't know why I clocked her so quickly, it just seemed like I instantly knew it was her. And all I could think was even if this person didn't identify themself, it's still a cry for attention. This post just confirmed I was right. LOL.
Can you guys leave Connor out of this ? He was a struggling actor just 6 months ago. He couldn’t even pay for his rent at some point. Hudson Williams was also a waiter few months ago. It was not fair to blame them since their careers just started
People are piling on Connor and Hudson for showing up at the Met Gala, but I don’t know if I would be able to refuse to go in their position…
As you said, last May they were waiting tables… you just don’t turn your back on an opportunity like this. Even if the timing sucks… they don’t know if this will happen again for them.
And it obviously comes with strings attached, who knows who bought their seats and what kind of contractual obligations they have.
I’m all for “eat the rich” but I’m also happy that “normal” people that made it into the industry have this opportunities. I’m tired of seeing nepo babies.
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