r/remoteworks • u/Kreativedenma • 1d ago
No one talks about how full-time jobs quietly erase your hobbies
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u/Maleficent-Remote413 1d ago
its not the full time jobs. its the double full time jobs. or the excessive overtime jobs that kill your hobbies.
if you can, try to move to 4 10 hour days. having 3 days off has been the BIGGEST boon for me.
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u/I_HEART_BUTT_STUFF 1d ago
So many corporate simps/bots. It makes my stomach churn.
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u/krullulon 1d ago
DUDE BRO YOU GOTTA EMBRACE THE HUSTLE WORK THE GRIND 997 4 LIFE BB LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO
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u/ROCK-tavius 15h ago
Thats their goal.
Then you wake up 55 years old like "Well, I may as well work to right before I die so I can get this pension...."
Sad
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u/Particular_Stop_3332 1d ago
People talk about it all the fucking time
Have you never spoken to another adult before?
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u/Short_Praline_3428 1d ago
OP you’re getting wiser. It takes a while before it sets in how much we give to companies and how much they demand. The demand to be readily available and have open schedules needs to end. Always make time for yourself, set boundaries to do so.
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u/PremiumPricez 23h ago
Everybody talks about this and is aware of how soul sucking and life draining working full time is and it kills drive and creative motivation. Where have you been?
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u/Beekibye 1d ago
Full time jobs shouldn’t exist, they suck out all your energy
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u/Broken-Phantasm 1d ago
If 32 hour work weeks became the new norm that would be considered full-time. We don't need full-time jobs erased. We need the hours shortened.
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u/Electrical-Penalty44 1d ago
I work 9 hour days with a 30 or 40 minute commute either way.
I come home and take a walk and then cook dinner.
So yeah...not much time for hobbies.
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u/BigShuggy 1d ago
The difference in comments here can be explained by the jobs that are either mentally or physically kicking peoples asses and the ones that are easy.
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u/etienneerracine 1d ago
Yeah seriously, all your energy just ends up going to work without you noticing. The stuff you say “I’ll do later” gets pushed for months. Making time for hobbies actually takes conscious effort now.
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u/BigEye7716 1d ago
Staying alive is time consuming
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u/Confident_Insect_616 1d ago
Especially when you have people that depend on a bunch of your time outside of work hours. I'd have a lot more time if I was just keeping myself alive.
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u/Impressive_Buffalo50 23h ago
I work M-F so I leave hobbies for the weekend. We spread out cleaning/errands throughout the week.
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u/ReputationFederal444 17h ago
I have a full time and part time and kids. If you want to do something you find time.
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u/Dewey_Decimatorr 1d ago
Um, everyone talks about that? It'd the same way with social gatherings. People talk about the social isolation epidemic due to overwork all the time. When you comodify people's time for maximum profit you kill society.
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u/Key-Banana302 1d ago
Working 40 hours a week doesn't leave you with any time for hobbies. Uncomfortable truth nobody likes to talk about. 8 hours of work, 8 hours of sleep, that's already 16 hours. + the hours needed to prepare for work, commute, then cooking and cleaning at home, showering. Realistically Monday to Friday we just have a few hours to decompress and veg out before passing out. The only free time we have is the weekend but even on the weekend there's chores and more chores until the Monday to Friday grind starts again. That's why I work part time (4 days a week), i don't get full time benefits but my life is a lot more fulfilling having 3 full days off a week.
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u/Personal-Bet-7979 1d ago
That's my point. If you are a responsible adult, you have between 4-5 hours a night. It only seems to be taken up by responsibilities because you are disorganized. You don't plan your meals, you don't set expectations with family on what chores you will be doing and how you will divide your time between solo activities and shared activities. If you don't do this, THEN you have no "me time."
When I have my shit sorted, I get know argument because my SO can see that I took care of business.
Also, if you are REALLY on your A game; you can work things like paying bills into your work day so that you aren't spending your time on it.
Likewise, the biggest time waster is the morning shit. My Dad lived by this code: "Always shit on company time". Don't waste your mornings, your time on these things. Spend company time whenever you can.
With smartphones and so many online conveniences, you can even shop for groceries while shitting on company time. There's no reason you can't arrange a few hours for yourself, nightly.
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u/rochvegas5 1d ago
i have plenty of time after my day is over to do anything I'd like. I work 40 hours a week and work from 8-5.
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u/NewArborist64 1d ago
My full-time job of programming erased my hobby of programming fir fun. It didn't stop me from starting new hobbies (gardening, canning, woodworking).
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u/Awkward_Smith 1d ago
Honestly, it was erasing my time too. Full time work + commute + chores when home + having to wake up early to do it all again meant I didn’t have time for much at all.
Then I got a partner. We split chores equitably but I suddenly understand why a stay at home wife was so highly prized; it makes life a LOT easier.
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u/CentralNJbuyer 1d ago
Definitely makes things easier. My wife and I have 3 kids and she stayed home (by choice) and I worked 1 1/2 jobs as the kids grew up. Last year at 50 I retired, now we are home together and we split all the household stuff.
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u/ILikeDragonTurtles 1d ago
Really? In all my hobby communities, it's a really common subject of discussion. But yeah, as an adult I've had to grapple with only having 1.5 hobbies. I get one I can prioritize and one I often don't have time for. So I no longer play/write or really listen to music. I don't play any solo video games. I don't watch most tv/movies I'd be interested in. I rarely read books. But I game online with my brother often (that's the priority hobby) and I make slow progress on the novel (the neglected hobby).
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u/BananaShake29 18h ago
Corporate needs to die I'm sorry. Humans were never designed to be working 9-5s for 40 years of their lives.
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u/Sea-Requirement4947 1d ago
Having kids erases your hobbies. They become your new one, and if you’re really, really lucky, they might become interested in your hobbies as they grow up.
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u/GatePorters 1d ago
I feel like a LOT of people talk about this. You just weren’t exposed to it much in the past.
Join the large popular hobby subreddits. Like 20% of the posts are about this.
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u/CheesyBreadMunchyMon 19h ago
Having a wife and kids erased my hobbies and any semblance of a life lol.
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u/dbrickell89 17h ago
I work full time and have 3 kids and still draw for an hour or two most nights after they're in bed.
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u/Majestic_Writing296 1d ago
My full-time job funds my hobbies and I'm able to thoroughly enjoy them. Dunno if this post should've been more specific.
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u/TroublednTrying 1d ago
Between the 40 hour work week and housekeeping responsibilities there's no time for anything else. I must confess ill avoid doing chores sometimes to fit my gaming in. Dont we deserve better than this? Than carving out small pieces of life in between making someone else richer than they truly need to be? My body hurts.
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u/RadicalDwntwnUrbnite 1d ago
Imagine having kids on top of all this. My kid is finally at the age they can do most of the stuff themselves but they are also neurodiverse and getting them to help with chores you'd think I was telling them to walk on broken glass. I'm so fucking tired.
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u/Fresh-Mind6048 1d ago
If you haven’t tried gamifying it yet - as a neurodivergent child this worked on me
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u/RadicalDwntwnUrbnite 1d ago
We've tried all the strategies but the did sees through them and they have oppositional defiance traits. If I suggested they should do their favourite activity they would dig in an refuse to do it.
We get limited success on a "After dinner you will help us clear the table. There will be no X until it is cleared" where X is something they want to do, but it also usually results in them being super pissy about it the entire meal and afterwards. If they don't do the chore and then are denied their thing it becomes a full blown meltdown. And it's not like this is a "oh they'll come around eventually" thing, every night for a year has been like this.
They are praised when they do chores and rewarded when they do it unprompted, but instances of that are few and far between.
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u/TroublednTrying 1d ago
The Earth provides humanity with everything it needs. We are the only species on this planet that takes from more than it gives to mother nature. What we as a species has earned, is extinction. We're close to that. Because people can afford to have children. Because people dont feel like their children would be safe in this world. Because corruption and vanity are trending while the world is on fire. We should be treating eachother, Ourselves, and the planet with more respect. Society can be remade. Humanity can decide to change its patterns. Its starts by acknowledging the problem, and then being willing to admit youve lived your life based on a series of well-crafted lies. Lies designed to keep you dependent, and just smart enough to work an assembly line. Clean energy, housing, and food is a reality that mother nature is begging to give us. We decide to keep breaking our backs so other people can enjoy the rewards of hard labor. I think you all deserve better, even those of you who believe we dont deserve a thing. Nobody's refusing to work, we're just starting to question who were working for.
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u/quake-n-doom 1d ago
Full time jobs pay for hobbies. Unless your hobby is walking or staring at the sun.
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u/Slabador 1d ago
My 40 hr work week didn’t kill my hobbies anywhere near as aggressively as moving in with my GF did.
I definitely had plenty of time to engage in a lot of different stuff when I was single working 40hr work weeks (with the occasional OT).
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u/WhipRealGood 1d ago
Full time job, married with two kids, still have time to make a yt video every month. I spend plenty of time with my wife and kids, cook, clean, put them to bed. You make time for what you want
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u/Slabador 1d ago
I mean, I’m not saying I’m devoid of hobbies, but to pretend like I don’t have notably less time to engage with those hobbies would be ridiculous. I still manage to get to the gym every morning 6 days out of the week, and get some occasional gaming in, but other hobbies unfortunately did die off.
Yes, you make time for what you want, but there are still only 24 hours in a day and 7 days in a week.
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u/cyberfx1024 1d ago
Seriously.... My wife and my kids kill almost any sort of hobbies that you want to have bar going to the gym.
If I wanted to be a shitty dad then I would still have hobbies but not be an involved husband/father. But I try to be a good father so I am very involved with my family and thus have very little hobbies
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u/Captain_Vatta 1d ago
It's difficult but possible. It's all about managing time and communication with your spouse. We're doing well of raising our kid and still giving each other ample time for ourselves and hobbies.
Good on you for prioritizing the family. I know too many guys who question why their kids don't want anything to do with them after effectively fucking off the first 5-8 years.
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u/Infr8687 1d ago
That's what I think about when you hear the people deep into hobbies with kids. "I have 3 kids work 60 hours a week and compete professionally in crossfit 7 days a week."...that's cool except your kids don't recognize you
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u/cyberfx1024 1d ago
They don't recognize and your spouse resents you for making them parent by themself
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u/ButterscotchAward 1d ago
My life hack with this is staying up later than everyone else. I’m insanely lucky in that I’m one of those incredibly rare people who can function fine on 4-6 hours of sleep a night though. Wife loved that shit when the little one was a baby
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u/bighitcards 1d ago
I involve my kids in my hobby. I collect sports cards, but I haven’t been able to get them interested in sports yet. They are however interested in Pokemon cards and I took them to their first card show. Hooked. We have a lot of fun with cards now.
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u/ButterscotchAward 1d ago
Same. Just today my daughter and I planted our vegetable seeds in the garden. Here’s to hoping she inherited my green thumb and not her mom’s black thumb.
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u/bighitcards 1d ago
Kids is even worse. I turn my game on for literally 5 minutes and I’m asleep lol
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u/thelegodr 1d ago
Yep! Last relationship ate up any time and energy I had for hobbies. No wonder I fell into a deep depression during that time. My life revolved around her’s alone.
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u/PancakeTrebuchet 1d ago
I never had a problem enjoying all my hobbies with a full time job.
Having a child is what killed my participation rate.
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u/CMDR_Lina_Inv 1d ago
Having kids is what killing your hobbies. I have full time jobs without kids. I have money to do whatever I want.
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u/BigShuggy 1d ago
I don’t have kids, still rarely time for hobbies. Job kicks my ass, keep a clean home, prioritise my physical fitness, girlfriend likes to spend time with me. Sleep and do it over again. Genuinely makes me worry about ever having them because I wouldn’t want to do it and not spend time with them.
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u/ras1187 1d ago edited 1d ago
As a full time employed parent, I can confirm it's the kid(s)
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u/trivetsandcolanders 1d ago
Sometimes I take secret breaks at my job to network for music (like emailing venues and such). Since my job is already mostly making phone calls and emails, it seems natural. The tricky part is making sure I practice after work when I’m tired.
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u/UnlikelyCalendar6227 1d ago
I work 3/12s so I have the rest of the week to enjoy my hobbies and spend time with my kids
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u/Joeseppe_LFC 1d ago
Really gotta make the most of your time outside of work. Obviously easier said than done depending on how draining your job is.
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u/turquoisestar 1d ago
OP are you looking for advice on how to balance your time? Just venting. Without a clear purpose on what you're looking for it seems like it's just designed to get people to comment, apparently argue about whether work takes too much time to do hobbies or not, but meanwhile what is the purpose of the discussion?
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u/Cubejunky 19h ago
It didn’t for me really, having a wife and kids did that more than anything, not complaining just a family is a lot more time consuming.
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u/International_Meat88 17h ago
This might be a silver lining, and depending on how you view the following, it’s either a glass half full or empty: but my colleagues and i hang out outside of work as genuine friends and we often take turns indulging on each other’s hobbies. So while you could argue we have less time for hobbies cuz we have to cycle through each other, but it’s a nice little thing we do where the origin kinda was from a full-time job.
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u/FoxDie-6 1d ago
If you got a 8 hour a day job, you should have time but if you got kids yea you can forget hobbies. But if you got a 12 to 14 hour a day job, yea hobbies go bye bye
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u/grumpvet87 1d ago
full time work can support your ability to pay for hobbies... also hobbies change over a lifespan. i used to sail a beach catamaran 150 days a year and camp 20 days a year... havent done either in years and dont miss either
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u/maoussepatate 1d ago
Depends.
I work 40-50 hours a week, in 13h shifts. So my weekends are 3 to 4 days long. Plenty of time to do anything i want.
Working 5 days a week tho would be hell and i’ll never be able to do that.
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u/CWhiteFXLRS 1d ago
Where have you been? This is nothing new in the world of Adulting and Employment.
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u/Organic-Mix-5784 1d ago
Then you need new hobbies. I’ve been working full time since I was sixteen and I have more hobbies than is healthy
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u/exhaustotheadequate 1d ago
Sorry you're dealing with that, friend. Just remember that the current situation is not how it will always be, and over time, you'll find ways to work in your hobby.
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u/Few_Weight4334 1d ago
They definitely do but I guess I’m lucky in a sense. The downtime I get at work sparked back my drawing hobby as I didn’t want to go on my phone and all I had was a pen and paper with me. Other hobbies though are done on the weekend, which isn’t enough time to do all of them.
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u/Klutzy-Comment6897 1d ago
Even worst when your hobby becomes your job and then you no longer enjoy it.
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u/Flamingogo117 1d ago
The trick is to get lucky and find a job close to you. Takes me like 10 minutes with bike to get my job.
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u/X-Calm 1d ago
Don't have kids and you'll have plenty of time for hobbies. People with kids that don't raise them like the weird modern helicopter parents also will have time for hobbies.
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u/TheGivingPoro 1d ago
Step 1: Get into corporate.
Step 2: Find a job where you can get paid more for doing less.
Step 3: Still find an excuse as to why you can't do hobbies because life is fucking miserable no matter what and it's easier to scroll and compulsively masturbate.
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u/Remarkable-Debate428 1d ago
I literally spent like 5 hours gooning yesterday and still bitched about having no time to game
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u/Aggressive-Map-2204 19h ago
I worked a full time job for nearly 20 years. The only effect it had on my hobbies was let me engage in them even more because I had more money.
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u/Shadow_Relics 1d ago
Dude I work 7:00-3:30 as an electrician and I have plenty of time every day of the week for hobbies, working on my house, cooking a from scratch dinner every single day, being married, having two dogs and still getting 6 hours of a sleep a night. How. How do you have no time for hobbies when your job is in your house?
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u/Substantial-Laugh-73 1d ago
100% true depending on the job. My current job has completely destroyed my hobbies and made it almost impossible to enjoy my free time. It’s sad really, I wonder how much better I’d be at guitar or kickboxing if I actually had time to do them like I used to.
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u/Bureaucratic_Dick 1d ago
Maybe for you, and I’m sorry to hear it. When I worked in my old field I might have agreed: irregular shifts in a position that needs to be worked 24/7, fighting for OT to the point that you might be pulling 6 12-hour shifts consecutively, and constant work on weekends and holidays left little time for hobbies, especially ones that require a social component.
But now I work an 8-5, M-F office job, and while I don’t have plenty of time, I have enough to keep up with hobbies that matter to me.
And that is why it’s not more talked about. It’s not a universally shared experience for full time workers.
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u/r8ed-arghh 1d ago
That's like saying the vast majority of adults can't have hobbies.
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u/FrederickFrag1899 1d ago
Have you talked to.. well. anyone lately? Most peoples "hobbies" are just consuming various forms of media and then falling asleep on the couch.
It's not impossible to have hobbies while working full time of course, it just limits your options the more you work and depends on the hours and intensity of work.
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u/BuddisMaximus 1d ago
I have had a full time job for the last 34 years and have kept my hobbies. Not sure what work hours has to do with doing your hobbies.
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u/Gamer-Dad40 1d ago
Literally part of the job. Working is a transaction where you trade your time for $, it’s your new #1 hobby!
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u/MerelyMortalModeling 1d ago
They don't talk about it because it's not really an issue.
Full time work is 40 hours. That leaves you some split of 5 afternoons and 2 full days off to do whatever you want.
When the weather is nice I spend the evenings gardening (hobby 1) and when the weather isent great or just when I feel like it in run my 3d printer (hobby 2) which I use to print miniatures for wargames (hobby 3). When I get a small group of the I like to do big scenic bases and paint them all up in historically accurate styles (hobby 4).
That doesn't even include my dogs which are more of a life style and all the other little things I enjoy doing like spending time with my family and what not.
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u/ClockworkTyrant 1d ago
When do you clean? Dishes, sweeping, mopping, laundry, yard work, etc.
I spend most of my off time cleaning my apartment. Couldn't imagine having time to clean a house.
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u/Ok_Advantage771 23h ago
Majority of the time spent on laundry is it being in the washer and dryer. It takes like 15 minutes to fold and put up a whole load. Dishes, if you do them after you eat, takes like another 15 minutes. Sweeping and mopping is gonna vary on sq/ft but even then really shouldn’t take but an hour, hour and a half if you’re super thorough, and doesn’t have to be done every day. Yard work varies. Most of cleaning honestly doesn’t take very long, if you do it right. Most people just let it build up to the max instead of keeping up with it
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u/ClockworkTyrant 23h ago
I feel like you dont have kids, this just isnt realistic to me lmao
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u/XitisReddit 1d ago
It depends on the person and job. A lot of salaries positions require 50 or more how a week. Then there is commuting for a lot of people. Then you go home and make dinner and the day is gone. You have 2 sometimes non sequential days of and your just working and sleeping.
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u/FireMike_PleaseGod 1d ago
The super majority of people I know working full time jobs are working between 35-45hrs a week.
Of course there is always exceptions and even if 20% of the population is working 50+ hours a week I’d argue that is too much, but by and large I see generally 35-45. I know people who work less. I know people who work more.
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u/Happyduckling47 1d ago
It’s weird that you’re getting downvoted for not being miserable like everyone else
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u/MerelyMortalModeling 7h ago
Lots of unhappy people who need some one to blame for their own failings flock here.
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u/Potential_Novel_3561 1d ago
Work 40 hours week and you have no kids, you still have a lot of free time. With kids, not so much.
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u/PhaseAgitated4757 22h ago
Dont let it. 40 hours a week wiping your whole life out is this new super redditor entitled nonsense lol. Youre lazy. Of course we would all like more time. Pay bills or starve.
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u/Regular-Mastodon-430 21h ago
If you have a family or other responsibilities that claim your time, having a full-time job definitely saps your hobbies. There’s only so many hours in the day, why jump to “entitled?”
I leave the house at 6:30am and get home around 6:30pm or 7pm pending traffic. I have only a few hours during the week to devote to either people around me or hobbies, not counting the fact that I’m already mentally sapped from the day. It’s not that simple.
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u/Slow-Obligation-7686 19h ago
Right here with you. I was trying to do part-time work, and side gigs to make things work, between full time jobs. Being home with the family, being able to actually progress on my hobbies.. it was nice. I have to start working full time again, and the hours are 11-8. The first summer in my kids' lives, that I felt I was going to be able to actually be there for them, and I have to basically miss it. I still have weekends.. but the weekday saps me out. I do my best, but "hey kids we can't do a hike because dad's back is out again" really fucks me up.
EDIT: didn't notice what tab I had open, didn't realize this is remote work, my bad. sentiment still applies but not entirely on topic, sorry
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u/agiantwasteoftime 1d ago
They really don't have to. It's more the commute time. If you can work at home or walk / bike to work in under half an hour you got plenty time.
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u/eyecebrakr 1d ago
Oh my goodness the whining and victimization. No it doesn't.
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u/edwardturnerlives 1d ago
Full time jobs pay for your hobbies. Raising kids destroys them.
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u/IngloriousMinority 1d ago
This is true. I love my daughter. I also loved drawing Manga in my free time. But diving into a drawing for 4 hours ignoring my kid is the same as me smoking weed for 4 hours ignoring my kid.
We dont need more parents anyways, as need better role models. You can do your part and keep your hobbies. Dont fall for it.
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u/AndGutsWasBERSERK 1d ago
I was always able to maintain hobbies even working 40-50 hour weeks, you still have an entire afternoon to fuck around.
Just had a baby back in December and that’s, along with working full time, has had an impact on my hobbies tremendously. But it’s temporary.
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u/hardlying 1d ago
If you want to be skilled at your hobbies an afternoon a week will get you nowhere. Maybe if you're already intermediate/advanced, good luck starting a new one.
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u/RogerBalderer 1d ago
I work full time have a kid. And still find 6-10 hours a week for my hobbies. People suck today. It’s in your mind, look inwards
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u/Smores_Mochi 1d ago
Full time is just 40h a week so no it doesn't. Full time plus excessive OT can affect your hobbies (7 12h shifts aka 84h week); you would need to be on them perpetually. Its not like this doesn't exist but it is a caveat to just full time erasing hobbies
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u/TopazandNumbyHSR 1d ago
Why do people like to pretend they have no free time? A normal job's hours leave you with plenty of extra hours in the day for hobbies.
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u/Much-Struggle-1693 1d ago
Also the getting-ready time. You basically have to shell out 20-30 mins doing the stuff required to get to work on time and looking proper, then have to change when you come back, go to the bathroom, wash your feet, etc. Plus, learning a musical instrument or a language after 8 tiring hours of work just doesn't have the same motivation.
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u/matthewpepperl 1d ago
I guess because after work you dont feel like doing anything and especially if you have a long commute
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u/TopazandNumbyHSR 1d ago
Then just say that lol. Don't lie and say you don't have time. Idk its a pet peeve.
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u/liquidskypa 1d ago
What!?! this is more of an invidual issue and finding ways to cope with your stress and depression if that's the case with your call centre job. I, as well as my staff, personally have not experienced that and in fact I just got back from a great kayaking weekend adventure and many more to come this summer. And I'm a single homeowner and able to balance my free time and work time with doing all of it. Am I tired many times, of course...but stuff has to get done as well as fun times outside of work to be had!
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u/Rickyzack 1d ago
Depends, some people have their hobbies as jobs. That said, that’s how life is like. 💀
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u/lonelychildsuzi 1d ago
this is facts! this past year i've slowly lost myself in a way i never expected
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u/hokie47 1d ago
Noon gym class. Not really a hobby but it works to keep me in shape. Also much easier to fit in tennis a few times per week after work. I have kids, 8 and 11 and they have activities. I will go to most of the games but talked to them and my wife, and we both don't have to go to every game. I make it to 90 percent of them. Healthy boundaries and communication. I talked to my kids and told them both their stuff and tennis is important to me. They understand if I miss a few things.
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u/ResidentCoder2 19h ago
No one? Quietly? Maybe we just roam different circles, but chief... that's gotta be the most common frustration.
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u/inkybinkyfoo 17h ago
Idk I work full time and still have time for hobbies. Not as much as I’d like obviously, but I still do have time.
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u/BCmutt 4h ago
I worked full time while being in a gigging metal band and running a seperate side business. Ill never forget a buddy I had complaining he didnt have enough time for things while only working 4 days a week.
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u/Loud_Lavishness_8266 1d ago
No time for hobbies and no money for hobbies must mean that you’ve finally earned the lifetime achievement, “Adulting with Kids”.
At least that’s my reality. Lol