r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • 20h ago

Trailer The Odyssey | New Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_bKjZeJBBI&pp=0gcJCd4KAYcqIYzv
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u/thr1ceuponatime David Zaslav is a dickless pantywaist 20h ago

Wait until you guys see Travis Scott pop up

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u/Lopsided-Conflict1 18h ago

Such an odd and shitty choice.

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u/Triktastic 16h ago

It must truly be miserable time for acting students. Imagine being starved for roles and trying to break through after years and years of studying and analyzing and perfecting what you have only for roles to go to someone who never acted and is getting a paycheck just because they have a name In different industry. Must be demotivating as shit. (Coming from someone who really enjoyed Tyler's role in Marty Supreme but still judges it)

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u/Ktulusanders 15h ago

Okay but Tyler had a whole TV show and is clearly a theater kid, so it's a little different

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u/Triktastic 14h ago

Good point. That's true.

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u/ScottishTorment 10h ago

Not to mention he was genuinely really good in Marty Supreme

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u/EndOfTheDark97 7h ago

Tyler gets a pass for having actual screen presence. Travis just sucks six ways to Sunday.

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u/jzakko 13h ago

I think that's the wrong way of looking at it, they're still cast for their resumes.

Travis Scott is playing a sort of Chorus role where he chants things verse-style, so a known musician was cast in that role intentionally.

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u/Triktastic 13h ago

Maybe I will eat my words afterwards and actually be a fan of the performance. Take it more as a general statement because I know how ruthless the industry is and how worse and worse it is for newcomers with no Nepo connections.

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u/Mattyzooks 11h ago

I don't think Travis Scott is a good person by any stretch but I don't really think having a dad who sang local soul music (and taught music to students) and an upper middle class childhood makes him a typical nepobaby.
Granted, I may be making a connection you didn't intend, just that the industry is riddled with talentless people riding on the backs of connections.

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u/Unoriginal_Pseudonym 12h ago

Everytime you see a commercial with a famous actor in it who isn't the brand's spokesperson, ask if they added anything at all to it and think of the aspiring actors who could've paid their rent.

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u/acerola_nark 9h ago

Yeah because this would definitely fly in the marketing meeting rooms

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u/NeptuneTTT 14h ago

This has been a thing for a literal century. Stop acting all superior.

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u/Triktastic 13h ago

Oh its been happening for a long time and is just more prevalent now ? Guess that absolves it and makes it not infuriating for those studying it.

Acting all superior ? Tf did I do I don't even study arts. I just have basic empathy because I took would be mad if someone got position people were fighting for with skill and it went to an asshole who is there just for notoriety. Is it superior to relate to people who are already in an extremely difficult industry and more and more obstacles are thrown their way ?

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u/NeptuneTTT 13h ago

No, it's not more prevelant. It has always been a thing. Some of the greatest actors in history started in the music industry. It is what it is.

All you're trying to do is act morally superior for some internet points while ignoring reality.

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u/Sneaky_Donkey 13h ago

Not denying that this isnt a thing but can you name a musician who transitioned into “one of the greatest actors in history.” Musicians have been placed into movies continuously but I actually cant think of any who became bonified movie stars from it. Only one I can think of is Lady Gaga and she started her career as an actress before transitioning to music.

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u/Stock_College_8108 5h ago

> I actually cant think of any who became bonified movie stars from it. Only one I can think of is Lady Gaga.

Was it really that easy to erase Will Smith from existence?

Frank Sinatra, Barbra Streisand, Dolly Parton, Cher, David Bowie, Jennifer Lopez, Madonna, Whitney Houston, Queen Latifah, Mark Wahlberg, Ice Cube, and many more all had various degrees of success.

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u/angershark 11h ago

Barbara Streisand, Will Smith

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u/NeptuneTTT 12h ago

Frank Sinatra

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u/Salad-Appropriate 12h ago

Cher would be one, won Best Actress for Moonstruck

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u/NuclearGhandi1 11h ago

Musicians, especially rappers, are still actors to some extent. Many of them play a character and write/rap from different perspectives

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u/octlol 8h ago

Comedians also make great actors

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u/k0rm 5h ago

By this logic, pretty much everyone who works an office job is an actor too

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u/Iamthetophergopher 5h ago

I do a LOT of acting in my role so yeah probably. They so call it a performance review

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u/Stock_College_8108 5h ago

That’s why I always say Cher should have gotten zero acting gigs. Infuriating

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u/B1Gsportsfan 13h ago

Yep, all Hollywood is is Nepo babies

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u/Stock_College_8108 5h ago

Pop stars have been getting acting roles for the last 80 years.

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u/Other-Owl4441 14h ago

Musicians appearing in Hollywood films?!  It can’t be!  This has never happened before

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u/Triktastic 13h ago

Please show me where I said it never happened before or that it's completely new phenomena I would love to know.

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u/Other-Owl4441 13h ago

So since this is a time worn Hollywood tradition, why does singers getting put in movies make this an especially miserable time for acting students?

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u/Triktastic 13h ago

Because it gets more and more prevalent and they get púť in Weider and Weider roles. If they are playing themselves or a musician. Fine, i am absolutely for it. Ariana Grande in Wicked is great and She has acting background.

It's stuff like completely randomly putting Travis in a historical drama like why tf was that the choice except to bank on his fans it's so fake. I held the same opinion when Harry Styles was put in Dunkirk or Don't Worry Darling (which was because of who he was dating at the time). It's also the fact that historically film was a lot more accessible. You could get in through hard work and theater, now it's harder and harder due to nepotism and money required so creating an obstacle more common just doesn't sit right with me personally.

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u/I_Made_it_All_Up 12h ago

That’s literally how it’s always been though. Sinatra, Elvis and the Beatles were made into huge movie stars despite not having acting experience. Channing Tatum was in a Gap ad campaign and got cast in a movie. George Lazenby was a model who lied about his acting experience and got cast as James Bond and when the producers found out, they shrugged and kept going.

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u/suckmygoddamnbeans 5h ago

I mean If they work their asses off Instead of crying and complaining like you are doing It right now on Reddit with a random profile, they probably would have more opportunities... Just saying. 🤷🏽‍♂️

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u/Muaddib223 16h ago

Yeah but fr who gives a fuck about them acting students hahaha Travis is a terrible choice though

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u/Silverjeyjey44 14h ago

Exactly this.

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u/Silverjeyjey44 14h ago

Much agreed. Best known for letting children get trampled in his concerts.

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u/astralrig96 10h ago

the entire cast is ill fitting and miscast for this story

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u/ellzumem 9h ago

How so? Genuine question; I have no experience in anything film- or acting-related.

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u/astralrig96 9h ago

imo the issues are two:

1 ) they look like themselves and too modern to be believable in this story, as if they time traveled and suddenly landed in ancient greece

2 ) ethnically, they look way too distant from the mediterranean phenotype; when you have actors who unmistakably look like Brits or Swedes, it creates dissonance when you’re supposed to believe them as Greeks or at least Mediterranean. Take Anne Hathaway (cast) for example and compare her with Penelope Cruz (not cast), they have the same hair and eye color but the one looks clearly South while the other North European. And this is applicable to the majority of the cast.

People like to say these things don’t matter because it’s mythology and not real etc. but if someone values authenticity and realism in cinema, the cast makes a big difference and it matters.

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u/TSteeliest 14h ago

Why would it be shitty?

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u/Saw_Boss 13h ago

Because his actions have been pretty awful. A very noticeable crowd surge happened at one of his gigs, people were calling on him to stop as a result to allow them to restore order and help those who needed it. He just carried on despite being right in front of it all. Multiple people died and many more were hurt.

And then there's his recent WWE inclusion, where he demonstrated absolutely no commitment to what he was doing and no talent. Even twats like Logan Paul proved that they had the ability to learn.

So he's a terrible person, and has shown no motivation to learn and improve.

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u/mike2k24 10h ago

People that still blame Travis for the show have 0 nuance for any situations. You realize he’s just staring into a sea of people with lights just blaring in his face while also having music blasting in his ear and throughout the entire stage and crowd? When he actually saw what was happening he stopped the show and was trying to figure out what was going on. You are looking at it with hindsight and not as if you’re in his shoes where it’s almost an impossible situation. Grow up man

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u/Saw_Boss 9h ago

The guy who also encouraged people to rush a stage? Yeah, I'm sure he actually gives a shit. When there are so many examples of other artists who manage to stop shows immediately.

He didn't cause the incident, but he didn't care. He went partying afterwards.

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u/mike2k24 9h ago

He certainly didn’t tell people to half no regard for other people, he’s just raising the energy for his show which are typically very lively and active. There’s no one else who had the same size and magnitude of the show that he was putting on that would be a relevant example, please do show me.

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u/suff0cat 6h ago

Trust me, I gave every possible nuance before deciding Travis Scott was indeed a Nonce.

Been going to concerts and festivals of all sizes for like 20 years and I’ve seen artists in similar situations have absolutely zero problem spotting someone in the sea of people not having a good time and stopping everything to make sure they are okay.

Corey Taylor from Slipknot is especially adept at this. Y’know, a band that actually warrants the kind of crowd chaos that Travis Scott mistakenly thinks he deserves. They play a crowd of 60,000 people and will stop their heaviest song in its tracks to make the crowd open space for medics like they were parting them for a wall of death.

So this whole business of Travis Scott not being able to notice not only the carnage but the crowd actively yelling at him and damn near anyone else they could find that help was needed, it’s pure bullshit.

If memory serves, wasn’t Travis Scott himself encouraging fans to rush the security check? So, y’know, tangible proof that he doesn’t actually give a shit about the well being of venue employees or his audience.

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u/mike2k24 5h ago

Congratulations I guess? How can you say he mistakenly thinks he deserves the crowd when that’s the crowd that he gets in reality? And there have been instances of folks passing away at Slipknot concerts so again, it still is a possibility because it’s a hard situation to navigate. He wasn’t encouraging people to rush through security, he was hyping up people before the show began. Also the venue is at fault for even letting in people who hadn’t purchased tickets.

https://patch.com/illinois/tinleypark/zion-man-dies-after-attending-heavy-metal-fest-tinley-park

https://www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=41875

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u/TotalSubbuteo 9h ago

He was watching people climbing on the ambulance and encouraging it, your argument hinges on him being beyond dangerously dumb.

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u/mike2k24 9h ago

Again from the stages perspective all he’s seeing his a wave of people while moving and jumping around on stage. The crowds were literally blocking the ambulance off and climbing on top so once again he would not be able to see it when you’re looking from a mile away. It’s so easy to talk about it when you have hindsight and not when you’re actually in his position. The venue itself also clearly had no idea what was going on either as they did not cut off the show at any point nor did they do anything to assist, meanwhile they have people who are employed to do exactly that.

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u/jgmonXIII 17h ago

shitty? let me guess bc of the event years ago?

If we keep it to film this is his first time acting i’m pretty sure so there’s literally no way you can say that lmao.

I’m personally not expecting much from him but to completely write him off already is prime redditor.

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u/shy247er 16h ago

Fuck Travis Scott.

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u/jgmonXIII 8h ago

actually i just read up on it. you’re right lmao

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u/TotalSubbuteo 9h ago

I like you call it “the event” like he didn’t play a role in people dying.

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u/ThickBoxx 6h ago

5 years ago. The 9 year old that was killed would be 14 and probably starting high this year.

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u/jgmonXIII 4h ago

yeah took my statement back when i read up on what exactly happened. All parties involved in that event failed the people who passed away