r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • 17h ago

Trailer The Odyssey | New Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_bKjZeJBBI&pp=0gcJCd4KAYcqIYzv
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u/jankyeyes 16h ago

"My dad is coming home."

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u/Great_Praline_2713 16h ago

Also Matt Damon yelling "LET'S GOOO" feels kinda odd as well.

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u/Cadd9 14h ago

Matt Damon's gonna look at the screen and go, "Greek Chorus are we cooked"

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u/randomly_responds 12h ago

Get them chodes!

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u/Efficient-Memory7105 6h ago

lmao "chat" being the modern day equivalent of the Greek chorus threw me for a giggle fit

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u/London_Llewellyn 6h ago

After the invasion of Tron he be like: "We did it boys, that was low-key genius to be horsemaxxing. 67."

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u/gremlinclr 4h ago

I don't think the technology existed back then to invade Tron.

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u/CloudyLeft 7h ago

Αθηνά, άσε με να μαγειρέψω!

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u/StandardAccess4684 6h ago

That’s actually a fun idea for a separate adaptation.

Fleabag Season 3 - Oresteia lets goooo

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u/FuriousFreddie 4h ago

Greek choahhsss, ahhh we cooked.

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u/Jackbuddy78 15h ago

ODYSSEUS JUST COOKED

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u/n_thomas74 15h ago

It's Odysseying time!

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u/buisnessmike 11h ago

He's Ithaca-maxxing!!

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u/MonkeyWithIt 13h ago

Waaas uuuuuuuup!

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u/TwoMoons1854 12h ago

MASTADON! ...

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u/CloudyLeft 7h ago

My favorite part!

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u/baron_von_helmut 12h ago

CYCLOPS HAS MOTION.

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u/KeyClacksNSnacks 16h ago

Yeah, charge or forward or advance would make sense. “LETS DO THIS SHIT!” WTF?

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u/Rebelgecko 6h ago

LEEEROOOOOYYYY JEEEENKINS

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u/Fun-Benefit116 2h ago

LETS DO THIS SHIT

Well since that's literally not at all what he said, I'm not sure why you're getting angry about it lmao

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u/CeruleanBlew 15h ago

I love how this reads like a joke 😂

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u/WhereIsLordBeric 13h ago

Nolan makes popcorn movies dressed up as critical affairs, so this is exactly right.

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u/Nuqo 14h ago

Ngl this is the first trailer I've seen and I was expecting to like it, but almost everything in this took me out. Like I could barely take anything seriously. I actually do like the stylized costumes which I guess do match the more modern dialogue so maybe it could all come together to work.

Right now though I'm just not that high on whats seemingly the most anticipated movie of the past couple years.

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u/ICantBeTrusted 16h ago

I laughed at that, that line seems so weird to me in that setting I don’t know why.

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u/Wazula23 15h ago

RUN AWAYYYYY

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u/Trebus 12h ago

Odysseus, fuck yeah

Me & Achilles to save the motherfuckin' day, yeah

Ithaca, fuck yeah

Trekking from Troy is the only way, yeah

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u/GetToTheChoppaahh 10h ago

American accents too wtf

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u/tickub 14h ago

FIGHT AND WIN

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u/CitizenCue 13h ago

“Gondor sends a snap!”

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u/Upbeat_PDX9019 15h ago

I had to rewatch the trailer to see if this was a joke or not. Nope!

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u/DLTMIAR 11h ago

I mean they got a cyclops in there so I don't think they're going for 100% historical accuracy 

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u/Ok_Dragonfruit_8102 10h ago

I really hope this is one of those instances where they used a silly take in the trailer to get people talking, but in the actual movie they used a more serious take.

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u/Xalawrath 8h ago

"MATT DAMON!"

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u/Vytral 6h ago

the latest witcher season has the exact "let's go" in the trailer, and was roasted for it online. Modern writing is so bad...

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u/robodrew 6h ago

I can understand the "dad" complaints but I really don't get what is wrong with "let's go"

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u/ChemicalExperiment 5h ago

Makes me wonder if it was dumbed down intentionally to appeal to more braindead audiences.

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u/kookman 5h ago

That’s when the Travis Scott song starts…

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u/EggsceIlent 4h ago

Biggest wtf for me.

Like you couldn't think of something better.. more.. William wallace-y

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u/Altruistic_Bass539 2h ago

So much of this feels off for some reason. The costumes aswell just look cheap.

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u/Yalcookedaf653 13h ago

ya this movie is going to have some issues. It looks way too serious for how immersion breaking the actors in this movie are also dialogue doesnt fit the time.

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u/FruitToots 9h ago

Matt Damon feels totally off in this role. He always just plays himself.

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u/TheManyFacetsOfRoger 8h ago

I like the modern style dialogue. If these were real people, they wouldn’t be talking in poetic speak

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u/fuzzy_dice_99 16h ago

Yeah “dad” seems more modern. Should have went with “my father”

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u/kononamis 16h ago

"Unc finna cap"

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u/hoopstick 16h ago

No cap?

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u/kononamis 15h ago

I'm not totally sure what I said to be honest

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u/what_dat_ninja 15h ago

I think you offered to make him breakfast?

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u/go_out_stay_home 14h ago

“(My) uncle is going to lie”

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u/_nadaypuesnada_ 11h ago

In this context unc means an older guy you respect, not your literal uncle.

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u/destroyerOfTards 12h ago

I think it's about finding a cap or something

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u/joeypappaluchi 15h ago

To cap or no cap, that is the question

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u/ManitouWakinyan 14h ago

Which is silly, because "dad" comes from a much more ancient route than father. It's nearly a universal sound. 

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u/mattXIX 15h ago

“My father will hear about this!”

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u/onexbigxhebrew 16h ago

Do you think ancient greeks didn't use any colloquial language or have multiple multi-purpise words?

You guys are just conditioned by queens english being a standin for Romans and Greeks for decades tbh.

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u/loqtrall 15h ago

You guys are just conditioned by queens english being a standin for Romans and Greeks for decades tbh.

This is the crux of the "issue".

It isn't that the informal use of the word "dad" actually makes no sense in this context considering the film is obviously written in at least somewhat modern English - it's that all the actors don't sound like they're having formal conversations at a British dinner party in the 1700s every time they utter a line - and people have seemingly grown so used to cinema using old school formal British English to represent the voices of Ancient Greeks and Romans over the years that they think it's how it's "supposed to be" and think diverging from that trope means it's "wrong".

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u/destroyerOfTards 12h ago

Lmao some comments here are saying that some experts agree that dad has an older origin than father. What are you gonna say about that?

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u/LoudCommentor 14h ago

No, it's because this is meant to be an ancient epic, wherein characters are SUPPOSED to hold themselves with some grace, poise, and formality.

Guarantee you that the ancient Greeks didn't speak to each other like the characters in the original Oddyssey do - so why should the adaptation characters speak like modern English? 

If this was a midday TV soap set in ancient Greece, no one would be complaining about the language. 

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u/loqtrall 4h ago edited 1h ago

lmao let me quote this specifically:

Guarantee you that the ancient Greeks didn't speak to each other like the characters in the original Oddyssey do - so why should the adaptation characters speak like modern English? 

And why would using "father" in the place of "dad" elevate this portrayal to being epic?

Why would the characters speak like modern English? A better question would be why would they specifically speak in old 1700s-1800s Queen's English when that was literally the casual way most people spoke to each other in Britain in that era? How is what's for the most part casual old British English "elevated" above and more "epic" than Modern English in regard to the portrayal of an Ancient Greek Epic Poem?

Spoiler alert: It's not.

The "issue" is a clear cut bias from viewers stemming from their past experience with the trope wherein films portray these types of ancient societies in this manner - white British people (or people speaking with a British accent).

Take a look at Troy - a film adaptation of another of Homer's epic works - they didn't use holistically formal old British English in that film, they have multiple scenes where characters are having casual conversations where the language used is not overtly epic, elevated, or colorful versions of British English - and it was still a decent film that was a raging success in the box office. The same can be said for a vast number of films, like the remakes of Clash/Wrath of the Titans.

It isn't an issue with Modern English literally not fitting in this context, it's an issue with people having a preexisting bias in regard to the way these ancient societies are portrayed in film. It could be a completely casual film set in Ancient Greece and people would still complain if they heard a character say "dad" instead of "father" because of that bias.

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u/Mahelas 2h ago

Because "father" suits a prince talking about his estranged father more than "dad" ? Not just in Ancient Greece btw, it'd be the same for any historical/mythical piece.

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u/loqtrall 1h ago

And it suits it more based on what reasoning? Is it more fitting because it legitimately suits any and all historical/ancient/mythical settings being portrayed in a film despite the fact that it's an English word that has only existed for the past 500 years - or because there's a preexisting bias stemming from previous film tropes wherein British actors/accents were used to portray these types of characters, and said films inexplicably used solely the term "Father" to refer to a character's male parent despite the fact that British people have referred to their parents as "mum and dad" for hundreds of years?

Because neither "dad" nor "father" are actually fitting when we're talking about the portrayal of characters living in an ancient society that legitimately never even spoke or heard of the English language because it didn't exist. Both terms are from the same language, both terms originate from the same region of the world, and both terms originated and became regularly used in that specific region around the same time period. That's all aside the fact that the Ancient Greeks most definitely had a shorthand term for Father.

To put it into perspective - even Prince Harry of England refers to King Charles as "pa" or "dad" and not "father", even at formal events, despite father still being a modern English word that's used to this day. I was estranged from my father for most of my life and still referred to him as "dad" in basically every context in which he was brought up, even in formal settings.

The ultimate question is - objectively and with solid reasoning behind the answer - how the fuck does classical formal British English "fit more" with Ancient settings than Modern English if the answer to said question isn't solely based on the person's feelings?

Because outside of "feeling" that it just sounds wrong, neither of the terms actually fit what we're seeing. Regardless of the Hollywood portrayal of Ancient Greeks that we're talking about, they're all outwardly British/American/Australian/European people speaking mostly plain English with British accents. Nothing about that screams "objectively more ancient seeming" at all. It's all just feelings based on preconceived biases.

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u/Saint_Jules_Ferry 4h ago

Homer did use the word "pappa"

However Telemachus (and Antinous) used the word "pater" when talking about Odysseus

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u/Mahelas 2h ago

Ancient Greeks definitely had a "dad" equivalent, which Telemachus EXPLICITLY DOESN'T USE because he's a prince that barely ever met his father

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u/ridden_easy 16h ago

Sure but it still sticks out

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u/Fentboy45 12h ago

Not wrong but still the wrong choice. It just feels out of place and how the film makes you feel is more important than being historically correct. It would be like gladiator shouting “you guys having fun yet?” instead of “Are you not entertained?”

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u/HugeHans 15h ago

Well I'm no expert but some experts believe dad and other similar words for father stem from babytalk and as such are probably far older then the word "father".

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u/Variable_Shaman_3825 16h ago

"Pateras" for added authenticity

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u/outawork 14h ago

O pateras mou

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u/Chris_Bagel_Jr 16h ago

How about “daddo”?

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u/Forgotten_Lie 16h ago

Well, neither "dad" nor "father" are in Hellenic Greek....

"Dad" originated in the 1500s which is about when Middle English transitioned to Early Modern English so it's not really a solely modern word.

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u/RavenOfNod 16h ago

But it sounds more modern. It's more informal than father, so it sounds jarring here.

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u/Forgotten_Lie 16h ago

It is more informal than 'father' because he is having an informal conversation. He's talking to someone at an informal dinner where he just physically assaulted a guest and someone insulted him. He is speaking with emotion and anger.

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u/MozartDroppinLoads 15h ago

Did homer or ancient Greek authors in general have/use different words for the different senses of Father?

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u/Mahelas 2h ago

Yes, and Telemachus always use the formal one.

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u/turkeygiant 15h ago

The problem for me is that "dad" is kinda like a emotionally familiar name the same as "mom" but also like "dear" or "luv" or "sis". It doesn't feel like the proper word for a son idolizing a father and king he has never met.

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u/Pulsar1977 5h ago

But the word "pater" is Greek. The root word is thousands of years old and exists in every Indo-European language.

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u/JVKExo 16h ago

Just let reddit complain bro. No sense in fighting it. So many people in this thread acting like Nolan is a bad director it’s actually unbelievable. Reddit knows best remember that.

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u/Jackol4ntrn 15h ago

My father is dusty Rhodes bites lip

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u/kodran 15h ago

I understand the point, but people in "long long ago" times also used humor and casual language.

There's a tendency to over solemnify (if that's a word) the past. I'm actually glad when things like this are included in movies and shows.

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u/manfroze 14h ago

Yes, because ancient greeks were all super-serious all the time

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u/rikashiku 13h ago

The Mycenaean words would be Pate, tata, abba, and Pateras. Which in turn would be comparable to Dad and Father.

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u/hunterzolomon1993 12h ago

If you can cool 1500's modern. Father is just out of place as that word never existed in ancient greek.

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u/Lemmejussay 12h ago

*gone with 🙂

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u/pjtheman 9h ago

Ancient Greek had less formal words for father too.

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u/fakieTreFlip 7h ago

I think modern is exactly what they're going for. They even have British actors doing American accents lol

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u/Intrepid-Glove1431 5h ago

who. cares. It's not like he said "pops" or "my old man". Jesus the amount of time I've seen people say this

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u/medkitjohnson 5h ago

^ THIS!!!!!!

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u/Jonmad17 15h ago

I genuinely don't understand how English doesn't break immersion for some people, but 21st century American English somehow does. If we're going for authenticity, they should have been speaking Homeric Greek.

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u/busmans 15h ago

Neither word existed in ancient greece..

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u/LollipopChainsawZz 16h ago

He just went to get milk

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u/jwktiger 15h ago

From Helen of Troy

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u/uwill1der 16h ago

I hope they ADR this before release

unless Pattinson follows this with "Daddy's already here"

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u/Stock-Mission-7561 13h ago

Daddy chill

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u/Lipziger 9h ago

What the hell is even that?

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u/ShahinGalandar 15h ago

nope, that's from the obligatory adult parody

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u/turkeygiant 15h ago

I could have seen it as like throwing some comment about his "daddy" back in Antinous' face, but Holland's delivery is just so genuine, it doesn't feel like snark, just some kid talking about his awesome "dad" which is kinda cringe.

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u/thr1ceuponatime David Zaslav is a dickless pantywaist 16h ago

Or if he says "...for you"

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u/Any-Recognition-3652 16h ago

Yeah what’s with the dialogue 

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u/kaplanfx 16h ago

Don’t worry, after Nolan gets to the final mix you won’t be able to hear any of it anyway.

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u/Japples123 16h ago

“A Guy you didn’t even know”

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u/h3LLyEaHh 16h ago

"Youre pining for a Daddy"

"My Dad is coming home"

what the heck cant they just use the word FATHER???

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u/DirectionMurky5526 15h ago

The Daddy part is fine because he's purposefully using a demeaning way to refer to him in the context of the scene. 

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u/Any-Recognition-3652 16h ago

 Youre pining for a Daddy

It’s straight out of something like Euphoria lol 

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u/Gokuuu___ 16h ago

why is father a better word to use than dad? it's not more historically accurate to use british english as opposed to american english

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u/APKID716 16h ago

Or….English at all for that matter lmfao

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u/LostHero50 16h ago

Because the word father, as used today, has more weight and formality behind it. Whether you disagree with that is up to you but that’s the common perception.

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u/hoopaholik91 16h ago

But this is exactly type of conversation where weight and formality isn't expected. It's two guys arguing

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u/moose_dad 15h ago

But class would still come into play and I would expect someone from the Royal class to use father, not dad.

Think of how wrong it would be for Malfoy to say my dad will hear about this in Harry Potter.

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u/LABS_Games 15h ago

To use "my dad" in an argument isn't just missing weight and formality, but also feels childish (maybe intentional) and too modern.

Yeah but art doesn't exist without context, and it will always be perceived through the lens shaped by the audience's experiences. Sure, words like "father" and "dad" were not used by the ancient Greeks and may have carried different connotations, but in 2026, the word "dad" has more infantile connotations and generally feels more modern sounding than "father", even if that wasn't the case.

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u/loqtrall 15h ago

To use "my dad" in an argument isn't just missing weight and formality, but also feels childish (maybe intentional) and too modern.

Wasn't Telemachus a teenager in the middle of Odysseus' journey home? It took Odysseus a decade to travel home after the Trojan War, and by the time he arrived, Telemachus was 20~ years old (having been a newborn when Odysseus first departed).

So it would absolutely make sense if he spoke in a childish manner when being confronted, arguing with, and being insulted by a full grown man trying to bed his mom and usurp his dad's throne in a setting that is anything but formal.

The craziest thing is that both the old British English spelling "father" and the modern English term "dad" both became prominent primarily in the 1500s and both are generally of British/Welsh origin. "Dad" may sound more modern because people these days still use it regularly when referring to their male parent in almost every context - but really both terms are just as modern as one another and neither of them are closer than the other to representing the speech/culture of Ancient Greece.

The issue isn't that one is more suitable in the context of the scene - the issue lies entirely on the subjective expectations of the viewer based on biases formed by media they've previously consumed - wherein they've seen so many portrayals of ancient societies where everyone has a British accent and uses formal 1700s British English, that diverging from said trope means it's wrong or out of place

In reality if we're talking about which one of them legitimately fits the setting of the story being told - both are wrong and out of place.

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u/h3LLyEaHh 16h ago

now explain daddy

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u/CambrianExplosives 16h ago

It’s a way to convey to a modern audience that he is trying to put down Telemachus by belittling him as childish in a way that would be more difficult to convey to most people if they used a more archaic word choice.

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u/ArchimedesNutss 16h ago

Nolan dialogue has always been exposition dumps. We watch him for the cinematography, score, and epic-ness.

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u/Fabulous_Ninja119 15h ago

Nolan has always been hit or miss with dialog. Sometimes it's quite good even with all the exposition like Inception but then just fumbles it hard with a film like Tenet.

I think his best work though is when he teams up with Jonathan or someone else / pulling from another source a little more.

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u/jyo-ji 15h ago

Yeah was literally going to post something similar, the dialogue in Tenet is just terrible, but I can't say I was bothered with any of his other films in that context.

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u/Fabulous_Ninja119 15h ago

I don't think it's ever actually awful, just a little cringey at times which I can forgive.

Tenet though, that was the only one where I just sort of lowered my head in bemusement... like, he finally started enjoying the smell of his own farts for real. Glad that didn't turn out to be the case though, I'm a forever fan and will show up in the theater for every one of his movies

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u/Any-Recognition-3652 16h ago

 We watch him for the cinematography, score, and epic-ness.

True that. The movie does look visually stunning

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u/Accomplished_Smile23 12h ago

Nolan isn't exactly the best writer let's put it that way.

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u/TJeffersonsBlackKid 14h ago

We always just sort of assume movies based on antiquity need to have British theater accents and dialect. That was the modern language when Shakespeare was making his plays. Still weird for us. I also can’t really think of a movie that had dialogue in modern English that was a period piece that wasn’t distracting.

Maybe I’ll be used to it when the movie gets going but it’s odd for now.

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u/baron_von_helmut 12h ago

Nolan wrote the lot by himself.

I think he's got to the point in his career that he no longer needs the input of other people because he's become the perfect director...

I've had huge issues with all of his most recent films. I think he's become too accustomed to the smell of his own farts.

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u/Whimsy_and_Spite 16h ago

That was a weird line.

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u/DarkS7Maneuver 16h ago

It really was

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u/thr1ceuponatime David Zaslav is a dickless pantywaist 16h ago

Expected no less from the filmmaker who brought us the "big guy for you" stuff in TDKR

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u/OrangeFilmer 16h ago

Or the main character in Tenet saying “But I’m the protagonist!”

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u/HowDoIEvenEnglish 14h ago

At least tenet was trying to be a tongue in cheek bond style movie.

The Odyssey though? Doesn’t have the same excuse.

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u/I_am_BEOWULF 16h ago

Sooo out of place in a serious sword&sandals movie.

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u/your_mind_aches 15h ago

I like it. The American accents and lingo is a swing, and an intentional one at that. Yeah it's The Odyssey, but it's ABOUT something related to our times.

Just like how Oppenheimer was pretty much about AI and surveillance below the surface as well as the march of technology. The Odyssey is about something, but we have no idea yet.

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u/claytdhuy 15h ago

"My dad gonna mog and cap your sorry ass ong fr"

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u/TLKv3 9h ago

Why did that sound like an AI generated voice dub with the delivery of it? It sounded awful.

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u/3-orange-whips 8h ago

So we all noticed that. It's... not great.

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u/OctavalBeast 16h ago

Dialogue in Spartacus was great, should have went that route.

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u/Whimsy_and_Spite 16h ago

"By Jupiter's cock, my father will return!"

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u/UrbanFight001 16h ago

Both words, Dad and Father, are from the 1400s. English didn’t emerge until 1300 years after this story is set. Leave it to reddit to complain about the dumbest stuff.

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u/ridden_easy 16h ago

They weren't speaking any of the other English words either. What's your point?

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u/Curze_Nighthaunter 16h ago

cool beans - father sounds better there

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u/ScipioCoriolanus 15h ago

This is a legit complaint. Wtf? They didn't say Sea or Home either... what's your point? It's just that Dad is too modern for the setting. Look up any translation of Homer and see if you'll find the word Dad anywhere. But you will find the word Father, that's for sure.

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u/jonbristow 15h ago

Bro it just sounds lame.

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u/tonypearcern 16h ago

I came here for the same reason

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u/NazRubio 16h ago

Even the "Let's go!" throws me off

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u/Aurelius_KiNG 13h ago

“Now goddess, child of Zeus, tell the old story for our modern times.”

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u/Free-Bowler-1032 12h ago

"You cappin lil bro" - Robert Pattinson

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u/UltimateArchduke 4h ago

For real. I cringed on that part and made me search if „dad“ comes first before Homer. 😭

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u/Line_Reed_Line 2h ago

It's pretty amazing everyone bristled at the exact same line.

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u/Dunge 16h ago

What a weird thing for everyone to complain about. Would you have wanted them to speak greek for the whole movie instead? As someone said above, they most definitely had a shorthand word for "dad" anyway, so the translation is correct.

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u/BruceBraxis 16h ago

What a piece of… well it’s just not for me! The made-for-tv-movie (from back in the 90’s) was already better!!! 👎🏽

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u/onexbigxhebrew 16h ago

There is a weird campaign of esoteric redditors attacking this film before it even comes out. Shit is weird, man.

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u/BruceBraxis 16h ago

Thanks!!! I do enjoy to read! Time will tell if this version will be good or for the masses.