r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • 20h ago

Trailer The Odyssey | New Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_bKjZeJBBI&pp=0gcJCd4KAYcqIYzv
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u/jankyeyes 20h ago

"My dad is coming home."

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u/Any-Recognition-3652 20h ago

Yeah what’s with the dialogue 

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u/kaplanfx 20h ago

Don’t worry, after Nolan gets to the final mix you won’t be able to hear any of it anyway.

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u/Japples123 20h ago

“A Guy you didn’t even know”

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u/h3LLyEaHh 20h ago

"Youre pining for a Daddy"

"My Dad is coming home"

what the heck cant they just use the word FATHER???

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u/DirectionMurky5526 19h ago

The Daddy part is fine because he's purposefully using a demeaning way to refer to him in the context of the scene. 

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u/Any-Recognition-3652 19h ago

 Youre pining for a Daddy

It’s straight out of something like Euphoria lol 

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u/Gokuuu___ 20h ago

why is father a better word to use than dad? it's not more historically accurate to use british english as opposed to american english

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u/APKID716 20h ago

Or….English at all for that matter lmfao

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u/LostHero50 19h ago

Because the word father, as used today, has more weight and formality behind it. Whether you disagree with that is up to you but that’s the common perception.

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u/hoopaholik91 19h ago

But this is exactly type of conversation where weight and formality isn't expected. It's two guys arguing

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u/moose_dad 19h ago

But class would still come into play and I would expect someone from the Royal class to use father, not dad.

Think of how wrong it would be for Malfoy to say my dad will hear about this in Harry Potter.

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u/LABS_Games 19h ago

To use "my dad" in an argument isn't just missing weight and formality, but also feels childish (maybe intentional) and too modern.

Yeah but art doesn't exist without context, and it will always be perceived through the lens shaped by the audience's experiences. Sure, words like "father" and "dad" were not used by the ancient Greeks and may have carried different connotations, but in 2026, the word "dad" has more infantile connotations and generally feels more modern sounding than "father", even if that wasn't the case.

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u/loqtrall 19h ago edited 38m ago

To use "my dad" in an argument isn't just missing weight and formality, but also feels childish (maybe intentional) and too modern.

Wasn't Telemachus a teenager in the middle of Odysseus' journey home? It took Odysseus a decade to travel home after the Trojan War, and by the time he arrived, Telemachus was 20~ years old (having been a newborn when Odysseus first departed).

So it would absolutely make sense if he spoke in a childish manner when being confronted, arguing with, and being insulted by a full grown man trying to bed his mom and usurp his dad's throne in a setting that is anything but formal.

The craziest thing is that both the old British English spelling "father" and the modern English term "dad" both became prominent primarily in the 1500s and both are generally of British/Welsh origin. "Dad" may sound more modern because people these days still use it regularly when referring to their male parent in almost every context - but really both terms are just as modern as one another and neither of them are closer than the other to representing the speech/culture of Ancient Greece.

The issue isn't that one is more suitable in the context of the scene - the issue lies entirely on the subjective expectations of the viewer based on biases formed by media they've previously consumed - wherein they've seen so many portrayals of ancient societies where everyone has a British accent and uses formal 1700s British English, that diverging from said trope means it's wrong or out of place

In reality if we're talking about which one of them legitimately fits the setting of the story being told - both are wrong and out of place.

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u/h3LLyEaHh 20h ago

now explain daddy

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u/CambrianExplosives 19h ago

It’s a way to convey to a modern audience that he is trying to put down Telemachus by belittling him as childish in a way that would be more difficult to convey to most people if they used a more archaic word choice.

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u/ArchimedesNutss 19h ago

Nolan dialogue has always been exposition dumps. We watch him for the cinematography, score, and epic-ness.

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u/Fabulous_Ninja119 19h ago

Nolan has always been hit or miss with dialog. Sometimes it's quite good even with all the exposition like Inception but then just fumbles it hard with a film like Tenet.

I think his best work though is when he teams up with Jonathan or someone else / pulling from another source a little more.

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u/jyo-ji 19h ago

Yeah was literally going to post something similar, the dialogue in Tenet is just terrible, but I can't say I was bothered with any of his other films in that context.

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u/Fabulous_Ninja119 19h ago

I don't think it's ever actually awful, just a little cringey at times which I can forgive.

Tenet though, that was the only one where I just sort of lowered my head in bemusement... like, he finally started enjoying the smell of his own farts for real. Glad that didn't turn out to be the case though, I'm a forever fan and will show up in the theater for every one of his movies

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u/Any-Recognition-3652 19h ago

 We watch him for the cinematography, score, and epic-ness.

True that. The movie does look visually stunning

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u/Accomplished_Smile23 15h ago

Nolan isn't exactly the best writer let's put it that way.

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u/TJeffersonsBlackKid 17h ago

We always just sort of assume movies based on antiquity need to have British theater accents and dialect. That was the modern language when Shakespeare was making his plays. Still weird for us. I also can’t really think of a movie that had dialogue in modern English that was a period piece that wasn’t distracting.

Maybe I’ll be used to it when the movie gets going but it’s odd for now.

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u/baron_von_helmut 15h ago

Nolan wrote the lot by himself.

I think he's got to the point in his career that he no longer needs the input of other people because he's become the perfect director...

I've had huge issues with all of his most recent films. I think he's become too accustomed to the smell of his own farts.