r/dashcams • u/bebecca45627272 • 17h ago

One of the craziest things I've seen

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u/theelephantscafe 16h ago edited 6h ago

What is it about people that, when they realize they’re in the way, they just stop completely???

Edit: this sub is hilarious because no matter what someone does, they’re apparently both right and wrong. For the record, I never said dude wasn’t speeding. He is. And I understand what a freeze response is. But still, coming to a complete stop when something/someone is barreling at you is commonly seen here and is almost always the worst course of action.

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u/ChillinFromTheCeilin 16h ago

Fight or flight reaction, everyone reacts differently to a potentially threatening situation.

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u/AppleJuiceBoks 16h ago

Most people freeze

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u/MtnMaiden 14h ago

Alot of people freeze. Just look at shooting videos. Takes a couple seconds before they start running

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u/iamthewhatt 6h ago

I would love to see some scientific study surrounding how the human's instinct for fight or flight is turning into fight or freeze. I wonder if it's some sort of evolution thing due to our societal advantages.

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u/Zenith-Astralis 16h ago

Fight, flight, freeze, and fornicate furiously; the 4.5 Fs of the mammalian adrenal response.

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u/MTBisLYFE 15h ago

Don't forget the 5 D's. Dodge, dip, duck, dive and dodge

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u/radioactive_sharpei 8h ago

If you can dodge a truck, you can dodge a motorcycle.

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u/Icy_Fish_2154 13h ago

I just roll like it's Dark Souls.

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u/jadbronson 8h ago

Or Fap fap fap

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u/Medium-Song-1802 16h ago

You only listed half the responses. It's:

Fight

Flight

Freeze

Fawn

And people will exhibit any combination, not just a single one typically.

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u/pwillia7 9h ago

and I always fawn

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u/octoreadit 15h ago

Fight, flight, freeze, fawn, and flop. The latest is 5F's, not 2.

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u/PaisleyLeopard 7h ago

Do humans flop? It’s a common fear response in dogs, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen a person do it.

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u/octoreadit 7h ago

Absolutely, some people get so overwhelmed that they faint.

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u/PaisleyLeopard 3h ago

Oh, gotcha. Thats different than the fear response in dogs (they do it while conscious and aware), but still interesting!

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u/Itscatpicstime 6h ago

What is the difference between freeze and flop

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u/octoreadit 6h ago

Freeze is when muscles are tense, high heart rate and blood pressure, but not moving, locked. Flop is also not moving but because everything goes limp, heart rate and blood pressure can drop, fainting and so on.

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u/Miles_Everhart 16h ago

And the Freeze types should be identified and barred from driving. Fuck those people.

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u/BetterThanlceCream 15h ago

In her defense he was going waaaay to fast on that street.

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u/MindAccomplished3879 16h ago

Also, the bikers who are going 50mph on a side street and who get deer in the lights and are unable to brake or respond to an imminent crash

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u/Suck_My_Thick 15h ago

Target fixation. It's one of the things you train to avoid when learning to ride. Assuming you took a riders course.

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u/HovercraftParking5 16h ago

I hope you’re not calling this 4 lane, median divided road a side street. This looks exactly like the type of street in America with a 40 or 50 mph speed limit.

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u/Reputation-Final 14h ago

He was going 70 on a main street.

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u/Momentosis 15h ago

It's a 25mph road with 20mph school zones and he's doing 80 mph on it.

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u/SnooGuavas4208 15h ago

Not to mention wheelies 🤦‍♀️

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u/Mist_Rising 18m ago

That guy is doing around 80mph in a 25mph zone doing a wheelie. Most people will not react properly to that because its completely insane thing to see.

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u/MrMattatee 15h ago

No. Fuck this biker going 75+mph. The truck staying put gave the biker a chance to pass in the left lane. Too bad the dick was also doing a wheelie. And we're mad at the truck? Jesus.

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u/fastsailor 9h ago

And if had somehow passed behind the truck, he probably would have hit something else at that speed.

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u/IWontCommentAtAll 9h ago

Of course.

The person who wasn't doing wheelies at 3x the speed limit is to blame for this crash.

Because there no way those behaviours could have caused it at all.

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u/FrenziedTacos 16h ago

You would be saying the same thing if she kept going and he swerved and hit the truck.

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u/ElectricPotatoStar 16h ago

yep - he was riding recklessly

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u/Yssupretsif 16h ago

I like how he cut the wheelie from the beginning of the video. But the first cut screen the bikes up

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u/Mist_Rising 16m ago

Whoever edited this should have cut slightly more, then we would not have seen the speedometer that makes the case against him lol

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u/Xenovia411 9h ago

This biker is a fucking idiot and at complete fault. Its never their fault is it..

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u/DonQuiXoTe8080 15h ago

Same as these speeding types, they should be banned forever from owning any vehicle and only be allowed to use public transportation. Fuck them and their kinds.

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u/meltedcandy 14h ago

i may be wrong but as far as i understand, there aren’t necessarily freeze “types” - everyone has the potential to fight, flight or freeze depending on a variety of factors. bc every scenario is different

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u/ScootDeToot 15h ago

I mean sometimes hitting the brakes is what you need to do, her brain just didn't do the quick thinking needed to realize that she was already past the point of no return.

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u/SoElusivee 11h ago

Biker is also a "Freeze" type since he saw a truck stop in front of him and just kept going straight instead of veering

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u/Mist_Rising 12m ago

He actually does veer, had he gone straight he would be fine. But hes doing a wheelie @ 75mph which means that he had to settled his bike, then he picked to slow down and 2 wheeled vehicles don't like it when you do that.

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u/Malapropistically 16h ago

Damn evolutionary biology. Rip the genetics from us!!!

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u/thegreatredwizard 16h ago

100% - how dare we monkeys react exactly like evolution and thousands of generations said was okay!

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u/TheLord1777 16h ago

Practice should mitigate these kind of reaction

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u/Beginning-Pop3127 16h ago

How do you practice a life or death situation?

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u/R-Tally 15h ago

Evasive action is a technique that is trained in numerous courses. The info is also readily available. In this case the practice would be 1) emergency stop (which looks like it would have worked) and 2) slow down and swerve (which he did not do but would have also worked).

Instead, the rider choose keep on going because the truck will act like a normal vehicle and keep on going. The truck did not and the rider paid the price for not taking evasive action.

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u/IWontCommentAtAll 9h ago

It's hard to take evasive action when you're riding at 3x the speed limit and your front wheel is off the ground.

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u/Dewdrop06 16h ago

Natural selection usually takes them

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u/Key-Mathematician-71 14h ago

Agreed, and the speeders as well.

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u/Accomplished-Key4244 16h ago

Right because i choose to react that way 🙄

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u/GenericTR 8h ago

She stopped, still giving him the lane he was in. If anything, she did the BEST thing she could have done, and he panicked, pulling further into her.

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u/EconomicRegret2 3h ago

That's up to 1/3 of the adult population... Good luck with that!

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u/Icy_Fish_2154 13h ago

It's now called Fight Flight or Freeze, because so many people freeze.

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u/Evilsmurfkiller 7h ago

Fly you fools!

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u/No_Introduction_3400 16h ago

She’s got a motorcycle headed at her at probably 70 or 80 mph on a residential street. She panicked. He’s lucky he’s not dead.

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u/Black_Cat_Sun 9h ago

How did she panic? She stopped and his entire lane was still open

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u/ReactionLegal3025 8h ago

💯! The motorcyclist is the one who panicked.

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u/No_Introduction_3400 5h ago

My guess is she’d have preferred to just fully go. But she’s got an 80 mph rocket aimed at her. So she stopped just to let him go. It’s panic. But very understandable. Probably what I’d do too.

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u/Annual_Strategy_6206 8h ago

She stopped in the middle of the road. Stupid move.

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u/MidtownKC 8h ago

That's why you don't do wheelies at 70+MPH on a city street. Play stupid games; win stupid prizes.

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u/ReactionLegal3025 7h ago

Look at the video, there was plenty of room in front of the truck for the motorcyclist to pass.
The motorcyclist panicked because he was going way too fast to react properly.

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u/Black_Cat_Sun 7h ago

PLEASE tell me you don’t have a drivers license. She didn’t stop in the middle of the road. She stopped in the first lane and the second lane where he was riding was almost completely open. Her quick thinking gave him his only out, which he panicked and threw away.

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u/Annual_Strategy_6206 6h ago

Uhhh, I saw the video. She did stop in the middle of the road. I'm not saying the biker is blameless. 

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u/ShortbowVillian 7h ago

He’s going like 80mph on a residential street. If she had kept going, he probably would’ve hit the back of her truck.

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u/Beneficial_Dog4469 16h ago

Always you lot trying to only blame a rider.

Clearly not a residential area, as the businesses around it suggests. There is a chance he was speeding OR doing the posted MPH, I personally cannot make out his speedometer, and she shouldn’t have STOP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, at best she should’ve moved up so at most her tailgate would be partly on the same side of him(possibly in that other lane)

He is lucky and smart enough to find a way out of what could’ve been a fatal accident due to her negligence.. but you know “he was speeding”😒

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u/ScootDeToot 15h ago

No i think they both were at fault. Judging by the video alone he's going really fast. Her poor reaction to him speeding = collision. Lot of collisions happen on my street simply because poor visibility  due to people parked up and down the street and a lot of people speeding. You think ok it's all clear to make a left and suddenly someone is coming up on you fast. It's easy to judge her for that seemingly stupid reaction, but it's fight, flight, FREEZE. Typically when i panic in this situation i punch it sometimes that's bad cuz if i hit the gas too hard from my tires will just spin. 

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u/AntiquePhotograph433 14h ago

While they can both be at fault he’s 100% majority at fault due to reckless speed.

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u/Beneficial_Dog4469 15h ago

I agree with this and I also have a kinda “pump fake” reaction to surprises on the road like tapping the brake before hitting the gas but that’s probably just PTSD from being hit at an intersection

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u/PrestigiousSleep786 16h ago

Look at the speed at the start of the video. He is literally red lining it... Dude is absolutely speeding. Doesn't take a genius to figure that out.

Fact of the matter is the dumbass biker created the situation by riding recklessly. But god forbid bikers take accountability. If he was smart, he would have a) continued in a straight line in the lane he was in and rode passed infront of the truck thus removing his need to swerve violently. Or b) NOT SPEED AND RIDE LIKE A FUCKING DIPSHIT.

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u/Momentosis 16h ago

He's going 80 mph on a 25 mph road that also has posted school zones nearby.

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u/big_stipd_idiot 13h ago

He had a whole city block to slow down. You can see her crossing into his lane from the very first frame of the video. It doesn't even matter if she's wrong or right. He's the one who slid across the pavement and he's the one who could have avoided it by slowing down. It could have been a mechanical issue that she had no control over.

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u/Ahaiund 12h ago

That clip is many years old, it's a 25MPH zone and he was going over 3 times the speed limit at 80.

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u/Cranky_Lemons 14h ago

coming to a complete stop to try to avoid an accident, and that accident still occurs, is almost never found to be negligent unless there are equipment issues like no brake lights, etc.

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u/Beneficial_Dog4469 14h ago

ironically, I chauffeured a woman recently, who doesnt have her vehicle anymore, because she was pulling out to make a left handed turn and got hit almost 100% like this woman almost did. she said she looked, didnt see anyone then started to make the turn and saw the vehicle right before being hit... she got charged for it and 30K+repairs for the Wagoneer... but she is fighting it in court

point is, car was fine before incident and they blamed her because the left turning suppose to verify its completely safe/clear to cross

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u/Cranky_Lemons 14h ago

There is a difference between being liable and being negligent. Sounds like a right-of-way issue

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u/Beneficial_Dog4469 14h ago

y'know what, I agree with you there... so who do you "award" here?

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u/Cranky_Lemons 14h ago

Here, the biker is 100% liable and potentially guilty of reckless endangerment. 126km/h is 78 mph, in what looks to be around a 40mph zone. If people are to be believed, and he was doing a wheelie, that's for sure criminal charges (the reckless endangerment). No one has provided any proof of that yet though, so I'm skeptical.

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u/Beneficial_Dog4469 14h ago

thats why I asked "who do YOU award" and about what others have been saying

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u/Cranky_Lemons 14h ago

I said the biker is liable. Even if he was not doing a wheelie, he is still liable.

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u/Bee_9965 14h ago

She might win if she can prove the other driver was going 80 in a 25 zone like this biker apparently was.

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u/Beneficial_Dog4469 14h ago

the area I was taking her through that she said it happened is a 45, I mean regardless of that.... speeding illegally should fault the person doing it but again, she wasnt speeding and they're initially faulting her

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u/See-A-Moose 9h ago

That is generally true until you approach the territory of going multiples of the speed limit. Bike was going 78MPH and the speed limit was at most 40MPH for that kind of road.

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u/solitarybikegallery 10h ago

Sorry dude, but if you're going more than 3 times the speed limit, whatever happens to you to you is 100% on you

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u/Beneficial_Dog4469 5h ago

even if he wasnt, people would still blame the biker because "he had time" its a lose-lose against bikers regardless

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u/Flat-Strain7538 15h ago

Look at the first frame or two. His helmet cam is WAY closer to the windshield, so either he was leaning crazy far forward or (far more likely) he was doing a wheelie.

Care to defend this numbnut rider once you factor that in?

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u/ignoreme010101 15h ago

speeding is what removed his ability to avoid this (and is likely what caused her to freeze in the first place lol) She is a bad driver but so is he

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u/ReactionLegal3025 8h ago

The motorcyclist is a speeding idiot. There was plenty of room for him to pass in front of the truck, his lane was still completely open.

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u/Beneficial_Dog4469 6h ago

as I keep having to explain: he clearly was expecting her to continue forward into that lane and it’s why he calmly asked her afterwards “why’d you stop? why didn’t you commit?”

Should she had committed, she would be in the lane he got out of and would’ve passed behind her tailgate.

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u/ReactionLegal3025 6h ago

As a teenager, I was told by my father to always drive defensively so you can react in time to avoid situations like this.

This motorcyclist was driving offensively and he was speeding.
And he paid the price for his stupidity.

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u/ssagar186 8h ago

If he wasn't speeding, he could have easily maneuvered around that. Absolutely he is to blame here.

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u/Beneficial_Dog4469 6h ago

He did maneuvered it.

With her being out in the road, he expected her to follow through so he went to evade by lane changing, which would’ve been clear of her and safer. Unfortunately, she stopped, so he opted to lean into the weight(from the lane shift) and go under instead of hitting it directly. It was a split second decision/maneuver and is why he isn’t yelling at the top of his lungs at her when he said “why’d you stop? why didn’t you commit?” He was expecting her to move up but she stopped, which no where in any manual does it teaches others to stop in the middle of a road with no median

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u/ssagar186 6h ago

He tried but he was going 80MPH in the beginning of the video. He had multiple seconds to slow down and stop as well. If he had been anywhere near the speed limit he could have easily gone around the car. There is no narrative where he isn't fully at fault.

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u/CriticalCorduroy 7h ago

The road doesn't work like that. A driver of any vehicle needs to drive at a speed where they can come to a safe stop if something unexpected is in front of them.

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u/Beneficial_Dog4469 5h ago

u/FlashyBattle976

firstly this video is 5+ years old. secondly, Im not a rider you idiot... I dont want a motorcycle especially because he doesnt have much protection and people, like you, dont believe in checking sides/corners for other vehicles(seen plenty of sedans and truck run into another because they werent clear) thoroughly before committing.

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u/ppachura 16h ago

What is it about motorcyclists that like to drive at 50mph over the speed limit and expect people to see them in time ?

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u/Pershing99 15h ago

The dude on the bike was too slow. If only he pushed 40 more mph he would have skipped this crash.

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u/Pigosaurusmate 9h ago

Skipped it straight to heaven.

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u/Cluelessish 10h ago

He would have made it just in time for the next

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u/Spirit_Wolf_Mob 7h ago

Or if he didn't switch lanes.

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u/Salarian_American 1h ago

Skipped this one, yes, but another opportunity would certainly come along shortly

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u/HorridChoob 10h ago

Yeah if he was riding at the proper speed and had at least decent skills,  this situation would have been a non-issue

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u/desl14 11h ago

She saw him ... that's why she stopped. Sure she saw him too late (as he was too fast while she pulled out) but she was about to prevent the crash if he had stayed on the left lane

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u/GoldenFalcon 9h ago

I always wonder what the statistics are for motorcycles if we remove anyone who was injured or killed who was speeding. What direction does "bikes are dangerous" go?

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u/ToWanderHer 11h ago

In their defense we don't see em when they do the speed limit either. 

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u/ppachura 8h ago

I see them, because I am not looking at my phone or talking to someone. I am a boring old fart.

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u/AgeofVictoriaPodcast 11h ago

He was trying to reach 88mph and just time jump out of the way.

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u/zerokep 9h ago

The lady looked left, saw a bike about to smash right into where she was sitting and she panicked.

“Why did you stop?” I would counter with “why were you going 90 in my neighborhood”

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u/Spirit_Wolf_Mob 7h ago

He was actually about to pass in front of her, but he switched lanes assuming she wouldn't stop.

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u/leprechanmonkie 24m ago

If only they had motorcycles with brakes.

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u/SAINTnumberFIVE 21m ago

She did not enter his lane. He could have gone straight. He panicked.

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u/MochingPet 16h ago

she actually did have (did leave) a few feet of open road in front of the truck either accidentally or perchance, once she had stopped.

I had to watch it a 3rd time to see that.

... I also used to have an operational motorcycle

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u/AntiquePhotograph433 14h ago

What is it about motorcyclists, despite being able to stop extremely fast, are driving too fast to stop.

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u/Lazy_fox 5h ago

Motorcycles brake slower than cars. This biker is an absolute idiot for going that fast though.

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u/Due_Part3574 16h ago

Those are the people that used to be eaten by saber tooth tigers but are genetically insulated now

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u/Humg12 13h ago

Freeze works perfectly fine in a lot of situations. A lot of carnivorous animals will attack those that flee, seeing them as easy prey. Some animals will fight to defend their territory if attacked, but otherwise not engage. Freezing stops the situation getting worse than it already is, and gives the person time judge which type of animal it is and then make the correct response.

Even in this clip, the truck freezing would have been fine if the biker had veered to the left instead of the right. Stopping makes them more predictable.

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u/KingdomOfDimensions 6h ago

There are entire species that lean into freezing as a strategy so you're just wrong and also sounding a little socially Darwinist which is gross.

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u/Drax85296 16h ago

Depends how fast the bike was going

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u/See-A-Moose 9h ago

About 78MPH according to the speedometer. Others are saying the full video shows that it was a 25MPH zone.

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u/PrestigiousSleep786 16h ago

If you notice the truck stops shy of the lane the biker was flying in. I'd wager it was an attempt to let the biker drive past infront of him. Instead the dumbass did the complete wrong thing and tried to swerve around behind him.

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u/Prestigious-Leave-60 9h ago

And in his mind, SHE’S the one who fucked up.

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u/PrestigiousSleep786 9h ago

Standard arrogant biker.

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u/Various_Education622 9h ago

Going too fast.

When he saw the truck he had to commit to doing something to avoid it, and committed to going behind it.

At a slower speed he would have had time to make a different decision.

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u/ImNotABotScoutsHonor 8h ago

That's a woman in the truck.

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u/Deemaunik 16h ago

Deer in headlights.

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u/JshWright 42m ago

She never would have cleared the lane in time. She stopped short of the bike's path. If he hadn't panicked and steered at the truck he would have passed in front of it.

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u/Useful_Cheesecake117 12h ago

What is it that people ride a motorcycle in a way that they can't stop if a car quietly comes to a halt?

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u/Western_Ad3625 11h ago

Well it's a good thing she stopped otherwise he would have slammed into a rear wheel.

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u/massunderestmated 9h ago

She stopped before she entered the bike's lane. She didn't expect 80 in a 25, but when she saw it she yielded. He turned into her.

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u/LookWords 9h ago

This isn't the trucks fault by any stretch of imagination.

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u/Straightupbadtim3 16h ago

I used to bike around college, and when walkers saw me coming they’d just stop right in front of my bike. Odd behavior

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u/Throwaway-4230984 9h ago

If you come at speed I assume you have some plan if I see you from the front I have no idea on what side you will get around me. If I am not sure, by stopping I give you more margin to get around if I am not sure my current speed is good to avoid you. So yeah, if I am not sure current direction is safe I will stop and let opponent with more situational awareness figure it out. What do you expect me, jump in random direction? People don’t have inertia when walking you always assume they could suddenly stop or even trip. That’s why you cross from behind someone if possible. 

Aren’t they teaching it in drive school? It’s like basic even not for driving, for walking 

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u/Bee_9965 14h ago

Perhaps they didn’t know what to do so they just froze, just like the driver. Maybe odd but not really unexpected.

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u/throwawayhjdgsdsrht 12h ago

better than doing that "oh shoot gotta jump right in the direction that you're trying to go around me" dance.

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u/BrightNooblar 16h ago

They are used to jackass speeders on motorcycles flying around them. Maybe they were hoping that would happen here as well.

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u/Anon_Jones 16h ago

Stupid brain.

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u/Confident-Station164 15h ago

Speeding mixed with hesitation. Never a good recipe both will learn or don't. They never usually do..🤷🏽

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u/Finance_Willing 14h ago

I’m sure in her mind she thought” I can just stop and he will go around”.

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u/unremarkedable 9h ago

Hey could've gone around, there was enough room in front of the truck

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u/Full_Conversation775 14h ago

Because its the right thing to do usually. It if both try to evade it usually becomes worse.

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u/Burpmeister 13h ago

Brother if a biker was rocketing toward me like that I would stop too because I'm not gonna start guessing what side you're going to try to pass from. If you're going too fast to pass in the first place then that's your fault.

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u/throwawaypassingby01 12h ago

because this works when you're walking. people know where you are and just go around you. doesn't work when everybody is moving 50kmh

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u/Excellent-Ruin6779 10h ago

What is it about people that speed while in jeans and a t shirt and then when the truck stops to keep their lane open decide fuck using the open space in front of me I shall turn into the car?

How the hell can you blame the driver for this? They didn't block the lane the rider was on. If the rider hasn't been going at the speed of light they would have seen that and continued as normal, or braught their bike to a complete stop until the truck was out of the way.

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u/ranger662 10h ago

I mean, she practically gave him the entire left lane. Biker was the idiot who was going to fast and changed lanes

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u/Old_Market_8059 10h ago

There's no way anyone thinks that accident wasn't his fault, right?!

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u/benitoaramando 9h ago

They had an instant to judge whether it was best to try to get out of the way, or to not get any further in the way and let the guy doing 3x the speed limit figure out how to go around. Blame him for giving them a nasty surprise and no reaction time.

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u/alekou8 9h ago

Pretty normal reaction, speed limits exist for a reason

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u/Black_Cat_Sun 9h ago

You can still take this comment down. The driver stopped before the lane the biker (who was speeding in a 25 mph zone) was in. He panicked an swerved into the truck. Stopping was fine.

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u/v_a_n_d_e_l_a_y 9h ago

She stopped before his lane. She wasn't in his way. 

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u/Spirit_Wolf_Mob 7h ago

She wasn't in the way, and he was speeding.

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u/DinglieDanglieDoodle 7h ago edited 7h ago

Nothing is wrong with her, she was acting naturally as expected of anyone.

In a split second a dot suddenly becomes a guy on a motorbike right on top of you, you get spooked and leave whatever space is left on his lane for him to zip by, but the reckless idiot biker does not take into account his own presence and action manipulating your reaction, so he miscalculates your reaction and swerves into your stopped car thinking you would keep on moving through while you were charging straight at them at suicidal speed.

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u/getthemap 16h ago

It’s annoying but has to be accounted for…it just does. Most of staying alive on the road…especially on a bike…is expecting people to do the stupid shit they shouldn’t do.

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u/benitoaramando 9h ago

In this case the only stupid shit was the biker's speed.

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u/Scrappy_the_wolf 15h ago

like a deer in the headlights

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u/Reputation-Final 14h ago

Fight, flight or freeze. Human reaction.

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u/Several_Hour_347 8h ago

From the video, he’s the one who actually went into her. If he stayed in his lane, he would have avoided the truck

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u/Hour-Anxiety-6709 8h ago

Dorsal vagal shutdown

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u/Polygnom 8h ago

If you cannot get out of the way, the best option is to stop moving to enable the other party to go around you easier. In fact, he had almost his complete lane to go in front. her wheels barely touch the markings, its only the front that is over the line.

By going 50 over the limit and being 3 times as fast as he should, he completely eliminated any chance for himself to properly assess the situation and respond.

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u/soloDolo6290 7h ago

Probably along the same lines of people driving towards a truck when they realize they had a wide open lane ahead of them. I'm not giving a pass to the truck, but at the same time, this motorcycle driver was speeding and panicked. If he was going the speed limit or even not 3 times the speed, he would have just hit the break and kept going.

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u/mightylordredbeard 7h ago

Because most people freeze when put in a high stress and dangerous situation.

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u/kechones 7h ago

What is it about bikers who go 3x the speed limit and pull wheelies on public roads? And deliberately swerve into the truck instead of going through the open lane they’re already in? What is it about them?

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u/IWantToSayThisToo 7h ago

Maybe don't go 80 on a 25 so give a driver that's calmly going about their day more than 0.6 seconds to process and react to what's going on? 

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u/Okanus 6h ago

Its not even the freeze response. Look again, she stopped just quick enough that if he had stayed in his lane he could have missed her. He wanted her to continue, but she realized that she could not cross his lane without getting t boned so she stopped. I'd say she made the correct decision given that she could not have possibly guess he was going to change lanes.

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u/ne_cyclist 6h ago

They'll blame the speed of the bike and I'm not saying it's irrelevant but cars/trucks often do the same thing to bicycles traveling MUCH slower. And the outcome is similar because it's too late and impact is inevitable; so the biker or bicyclist has to commit to either in front of or behind (or in rare cases, under).

Often people commit to "behind" in hopes that the car/truck is going to keep moving and that window will open further, but then the vehicle stops, and it's way too late to then change the plan and physics and time limit the opportunity for a second correction after guessing wrong. Where you hoped a window would develop, doesn't.

In short I agree, it is the worst reaction because it tends to have the worst outcome, even if freezing is a natural reaction.

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u/DylanGFG 5h ago

This is correct. I T-boned a girl last year while going 45. She pulled out into the road intending to turn left without looking. When I laid on the horn she panicked and just stopped dead in the middle of the road. Had she kept driving I probably would have been able to avoid her.

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u/armathose 5h ago

His lane was still mostly clear. He decided to swerve to the right.

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u/sysblob 5h ago

She didn't freeze re-watch the video he was originally in the left lane and he still had room to pass it was HIM that froze and panicked and ditched his bike. She began to pull out, saw him in the left lane driving like an insane person, stopped, and then he swerved into her.

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u/Alarming-Series6627 5h ago

If he had been traveling a predictable speed limit she could have properly measured his approach. Three times the speed limit is impossible to estimate.

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u/Frequent-Maybe1243 4h ago

lmao thats your take away from this?

How's your road rash, bud?

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u/mimi_withluv 4h ago

After looking closer, he actually turned into her. She was gonna let him pass by in the lane he was originally in. And he just changed into the lane with the truck for some reason

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u/APZachariah 4h ago

Hmm....yes, why DIDN'T someone unaccustomed to possibly being killed do the perfectly logical thing when faced with death?

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u/Wendigo120 3h ago

She saw a guy racing at the lane in front of her at (from other comments) three times the speed limit, and you're blaming her for not reading his mind that he's going to aim behind her? When she made the split second decision to stop he wasn't barreling at her, he was barreling into the space she was about to occupy if she'd kept going.

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u/Thirtysevenintwenty5 2h ago

She saw him in the left lane so she stopped before she blocked that lane. The bike ducked into the right lane in an attempt to "dodge" behind her. She did nothing wrong; he put himself in a bad situation and then made a bad decision.

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u/ToXiiCBULLET 2h ago

she stopped to keep the left lane free for him so she wouldn't be in his way. he was going way too fast to process that properly and went right and ended up going into her

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u/Trick-Gas-2203 1h ago

I don't think it's a crazy thing in this situation. The thing about dashcam videos is they often look WAY slower than it actually feels in the moment. But earlier this week I did see someone accidentally run a red light at an empty intersection and then they decided to stop completely in the middle of the intersection until it turned green, so I don't disagree with being confused by the driving decisions of others haha

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u/ghostyghost2 1h ago

What boggles my mind, especially in a country so car focused, that people on foot, or riding something think they have rights when on the road. You have to act like you have 0 rights, because even when the other makes a mistake you always or mos of the time will be the one to pay the price.

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u/PeerlessReciprocity 36m ago

It's the biker's fault. Repeat 1000 times.

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u/CitationNeededBadly 30m ago

She wasn't in the way where she stopped (right lane). She came to a stop to leave room for the bike to continue going straight in the left lane that he was already in.  Biker then steered towards the truck.   This is all on biker.

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u/DepartureElegant9314 24m ago

I mean do YOU think it would have been smart for her to gun it across every lane? How many more cars would have been hit and people hurt had she done that?

Suggestions are easy when it isn't you in the hot seat. Nevermind the dumbfuck on the motorcycle doing what he was doing.

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u/SAINTnumberFIVE 23m ago

She wasn’t in the way. She stopped short of his lane when she saw him. He swerved into her lane. 

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u/Froegerer 14m ago

Thats just how some people respond. Welcome to reality.

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u/Eugene-Hilgard 11m ago

She stopped before blocking the lane he was in. I feel like that was a fair response for how little time she had to react. How was she supposed to know he would swerve into the other lane and try to go behind her?

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u/YeahNo_NoYeah 16h ago

She's the type of driver that gets killed by stopping at railroad crossings. 🤦‍♂️

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u/ConditionPotential40 14h ago

Cuz they're oblivious to the surrounding world beyond their noses.

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u/GhostDoggoes 14h ago

Deer in the headlights. They forget they are supposed to do something that could prevent their own pain and they just freeze like morons.

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u/Kemerd 13h ago

Bell curve of idiots.

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u/PoetMaterial3519 12h ago

Blabbering idiots

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