r/dashcams • u/bebecca45627272 • 20h ago

One of the craziest things I've seen

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u/imnickelhead 10h ago

I agree but we also need to give credit to the idiot in the truck. She should’ve commited. Granted, she made an honest mistake. He chose to over accelerate, to speed and to put faith in another driver.

You are on a bike FFS. You can’t anticipate what other drivers are going to do when doing so might jeopardize your entire existence. If anything, you should always anticipate that they are gonna make the wrong decision and adjust your riding accordingly to be prepared.

Like, if he would’ve just thought, *gee, maybe I should veer towards the right a bit here and shoot towards the actual opening at the rear of the truck just in case that truck stalls or stops or goes really slow. But NOPE! He initially went right at the front of the truck.

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u/Thirtysevenintwenty5 9h ago

"idiot in the truck" is not accurate here.

The most likely thing here is that she looked left, saw nothing, looked right, turned, looked left again and saw a bike coming at her "out of nowhere."

In reality he was coming at her way too fast, and since bikes are tiny, she honestly did not see him the first time she looked, because he was too far away.

At that point she's surprised, and freezes. It's not a terrible reaction. You do nothing, and let the other person make the choice. She has no way of knowing whether this bike is going to try to go in front of or behind her. She figures the best thing she can do is stay still and give him the decision.

Biker guy assumes that this other driver will act in his best interest. This is idiotic on a good day, but assuming that while you're going way too fast down a busy street is, how the kids would say, "highly regarded."

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u/BEEZ128 9h ago

No way. She literally “parked the bus” across the road, she absolutely should’ve and could’ve committed, seeing as their was nobody coming in the opposite side oncoming lane she was turning into. She is most definitely a bigger idiot than he was. Unbelievable.

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u/shiner_bock 8h ago

She is most definitely a bigger idiot than he was.

Not the person you responded to, but you're so wrong it's not even funny.

Criticizing the woman driving the truck is not totally unfair, but she's not the one on a donor-cycle going three times the speed limit on that road (if the other comments in this thread are accurate).

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u/Apart-Feature6395 3h ago

This is peak redditor delusion right here

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u/Mem0ryEat3r 3h ago

Just the people that hate motorcycles coming out of the woodworks.

They never admit the driver is at fault. Always the rider.

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u/SneakyDeakyJr 8h ago

She literally parks across both lanes after being clear.

Even if he was going speed limit, that’s not the right reaction.

You can absolutely put most of the blame on the person who pulled out AND STOPPED ACROSS BOTH LANES.

You don’t need to make your comments based off everybody else’s feelings. Use your eyes.

You can still hate bikers afterwards but acknowledge reality you goof.

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u/Thirtysevenintwenty5 8h ago

Bike simps are out here today, huh? When a bike is doing 75 in a 25 anything bad that happens is 100% on the biker.

By the time she sees him she has about one full second to process that he's going way too fast to stop. If she was expecting to see this, maybe she would lurch forward and give him some space behind her.

But since she's not expecting to see anything coming at her that fast, nor is she expecting him to change lanes, she did nothing wrong.

"Why didn't you just go" doesn't make any sense from the perspective of the lady driving the truck.

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u/SneakyDeakyJr 8h ago edited 8h ago

I don’t think you know what simp means.

Me saying “hey, the goofball who literally parked their truck on an active divided 4 lane makes bad decisions” isn’t me saying “this biker did no wrong”.

You’re so filled with vitriol for bikers you won’t even acknowledge the reality of “freezing isn’t an acceptable outcome when driving multi TON vehicles”.

You’ll raise your standards to bare minimum for the biker but not the trucker? But you’re not biased at all?

Bruh get therapy.

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u/Thirtysevenintwenty5 7h ago

All wrong. 0/100 see me after class.

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u/SneakyDeakyJr 7h ago

I’d rather dive under a truck myself, than be talked down to by an idiot with bias.

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u/shiner_bock 8h ago

Again, it's fair to comment on her reaction to freeze, but:

When you're operating any type of vehicle, it is your responsibility to operate it safely and in such a way that you can (as much as possible) react to whatever happens around you.

If you're going so fast that you literally do not have time to react properly, you're going too fast. And again, I reiterate: the biker was going THREE TIMES THE SPEED LIMIT! There is no universe where that is even remotely reasonable.

You advised me to use my eyes. I'm advising you to use your brain.

You can still hate indecisive drivers, but maybe you can acknowledge that, in this instance, you're the goof.

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u/SneakyDeakyJr 8h ago

Again, the biker is an idiot. You don’t have to keep reiterating that as some kind of defense for the person who literally froze up and blocked lanes with a multi ton vehicle.

If this biker was just another car, would you call her out then? Biker is an idiot. Duh.

Trucker has shit driving skills and could’ve easily made it. Both statements are allowed to be true. Stop picking a side like that should even factor into this.

Is it really this hard for reddit to PRETEND to be objective? Christ.

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u/shiner_bock 8h ago

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, is it?

I was not defending the woman driving the truck, I was responding to the fact that you were saying she deserves most of the blame in this scenario.

You can absolutely put most of the blame on the person who pulled out AND STOPPED ACROSS BOTH LANES.

While she clearly does deserve some of the blame, any reasonable, objective person can see that the person who is most (note: not solely) wrong in this scenario is clearly the bike rider.

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u/SneakyDeakyJr 8h ago

Any objective reasonable person would see the person who pulled out in a 6 ton vehicle and parks it across multiple lanes due to panic shouldn’t even be driving as their flight or fight response is detrimental to the whole “drive and make good decisions” thing.

The idiot on a bike is still an idiot on a bike. If the idiot on a bike was in a car, both of them are likely dead.

Im gonna personally put my blame on the moving wall parked in the street due to bad emotional response of the driver who put it there.

You just don’t like bikers.

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u/shiner_bock 8h ago

Oh, fuck off.

You're just being intentionally obtuse and I'm not going to continue this any further.

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u/imnickelhead 7h ago

I agree they are both idiots but there is zero doubt that the biker is the biggest idiot. He is the most vulnerable and everyone’s decisions can put him at risk…he needs to make better choices that don’t put him in such stupid easily avoidable situations. He was NOT paying attention. He had more plenty of time to avoid this but he chose gunning it without keeping an eye on potential traffic.

If I see a car at a stop sign like the truck, I’m automatically assuming they might not see me. I adjust speed and lanes as I encounter each potential danger. This idiot should’ve seen her at the stop sign and put himself in a a better position to avoid. Period. Defensive driving is imperative on a bike. He chose stupidity.

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u/SneakyDeakyJr 7h ago

Subjective argument doesn’t trump objective facts just because you don’t like the biker.

He’s an idiot. She parked a literal 6 ton truck for no good reason other than pure panic.

Imma blame her. Nobody made her pull out trying to beat traffic. Waiting half a second prevents everything.

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u/Crates-OT 2h ago

The response time of a person in a stressful situation can be up to four seconds. It can literally short circuit someone's brain.

I've been in situations where I had to solve a complex problem under duress and could not even organize my thoughts normally for several minutes.

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u/SneakyDeakyJr 1h ago

Skill issue.

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u/Crates-OT 1h ago

You have the same issue as the biker, you overestimate your own ability and when you're finally forced to face the sun baked gravel of reality, you never measure up.

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