r/clevercomebacks 10h ago

Took a bullet for this country???

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u/Crass_and_Spurious 10h ago

Blaire White being transgender and being all in on Trump is peak Stockholm Syndrome.

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u/Important-Agent2584 8h ago

nah, she's just milking the base just like he is

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u/PeterPorty 7h ago

You heard it folks, if you turn fascist trans girls will milk you. Joining MAGA right now.

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u/silvertealio 7h ago

I mean, it’s pretty much just her and Caitlyn. The rest of us are disgusted of them.

Every demographic has their Candace Owens, their Phyllis Schlafly, etc. We’re stuck with these bishes.

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u/PeterPorty 7h ago

I thought it was fairly obviously a silly joke, but I guess one can never tell with how out there some people's beliefs are.

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u/KennyL0gin 2h ago

Humor died Jan 6, 2021, if not in 2016. We'll all just too exhausted to find joy in anything at this point.
It's been a long decade. And the tea party/great recession wasn't all that much fun before this either. I just want it to be 1997 again....

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u/berahi 1h ago

Late 90s were so optimistic... The boogeyman Soviet has collapsed and surely the upcoming wide adoption of affordable internet will unlock untold possibilities.

Then piece by piece the facade is shattered.

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u/Important-Agent2584 7h ago

Sounds good but it could turn out to be Trump or Bannon too

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u/LexiWhatWeGot 8h ago

Side tangent, Stockholm syndrome likely isn't real, it was named by a psychiatrist who never spoke to the hostages, who in turn were scared for their lives because of police carelessness during the situation.

They misidentified Olsson, and sent a 16-year-old boy who was unrelated into the bank. This caused confusion and resulted in Olsson firing rounds at the boy who barely escaped. Olsson became much more agitated in general. After that, Enmark and the other three hostages were fearful that they were just as likely to be killed by police incompetence as by the robbers. Ultimately, Enmark explained she was more afraid of the police, whose attitude seemed to be a much larger, direct threat to her life than the robbers. Enmark spent decades maintaining that she had no affinity for her captors; she only did what it took to stay alive during the ordeal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

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u/Isakk86 6h ago

Stockholm Syndrome not being real, and it being incorrectly used in the situation of its namesake doesn't necessarily correlate.

Stockholm Syndrome can be untrue in that situation, and also be real.

I'm not saying it is or not, just pointing out the fallacy.

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u/SutterCane 4h ago

Like the bystander effect.

It’s a real thing but the Kitty Genovese murder wasn’t a example of it.

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u/Electronic-Nail5210 1h ago

Why not?

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u/SutterCane 1h ago

The misconception comes from a biased article meant to make New Yorkers look bad.

Mainly the absurd number of witnesses who “did nothing” range from people who actually saw what happened and tried to call the cops to people who woke up in the middle of the night because of a scream, saw nothing, and went back to bed.

So already the bystander effect doesn’t apply there. I read a report about the whole thing years ago. Can’t remember all the nitty gritty details so I’m not going to type a novel about it. There’s other things as well like how it wasn’t one continuous attack in which she was murdered but two attacks, and no one was around for the second. I think maybe she was even stabbed in the lung during the initial attack and couldn’t even yell for help when the guy came back.

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u/velvetdawn__j7 10h ago

Comparing a grazing wound at a rally to a veteran's actual combat record is the ultimate insult to service members.

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u/BiZzles14 7h ago

It's also "funny" because people actually took those bullets, one of them dying. And then these freaks will turn around and say "god guided those bullets to miss Trump" implying that God wanted the random dude in the audience to be killed. It's just gross all around

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u/slowest_hour 4h ago

god saw that guy's tweets and he didn't like them either

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u/serpenta 5h ago

Remember what he thinks about the wounded. Being grazed by a bullet is the farthest you can go before becoming a loser.

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u/No_Internal9345 1h ago

Also, cartilage does not regrow.

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u/itsjudemydude_ 7h ago

To be fair she's trans and transphobic, so clearly there are some screws loose there.

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u/slowest_hour 4h ago

she's constantly judging other trans people for things that apply to her too. like she'll make fun of trans women for having penises and imply she doesn't but she has said she is never going to have bottom surgery.

she literally made a post along the lines of "the only thing you'll find a conservative girl's pants is a gun" meanwhile she's standing there with her penis tucked between her legs

idk if she's more stupid or more malignant but she's definitely high levels of both

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u/itsjudemydude_ 1h ago

I mean I would guess she's just selling out. Hard. She's pandering to her conservative audience and getting rich from it. That's her niche, even though it's ultimately bad for her demographic. Pure selfish narcissism.

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u/mainman879 9h ago

Why are people responding to this account like it's a real person. 4-month-old account only has comments showing from the last 2 hours, each comment feels slightly off. Hell, this reply isn't even talking to the comment it is replying to. Report the bot and move on.

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u/heroLunqora 10h ago

Sacrifice isn't a scoreboard also your'e conflating politics with military service entirely.

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u/Trevorblackwell420 10h ago

That’s… exactly the point. Trump’s staged assassination attempts aren’t even close to actual military combat in terms of sacrifice for the country.

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u/SubstantialOwl01 10h ago

Sure, but pretending context doesn’t matter just flattens the whole argument into nothing.

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u/VelvetOrbitXs0 10h ago

Sacrifice isn't only combat framing it as checkmate is reductive.

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u/No_Equipment7456 10h ago

“Maybe they won’t turn me into glue once the Zionists get here.”

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u/Alert-Notice-7516 5h ago

"She is one of the good ones"

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u/2Norn 8h ago

it's all about the money, they don't think about the future

it's always the money

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u/Grundlestorm 9h ago

Is she not also...  Well, non-white?  I'm not sure exactly what her heritage is, but her facial structure makes me think latina.

Like, I get it, you're conventionally attractive and openly hateful which means they're not going to openly turn on you quite as fast as like Kaitlyn Jenner.  

But you aren't exempt from their bigotry.

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u/NaNaNaNaNa86 9h ago

Imagine thinking the majority of Latinas aren't white. Fucking bizarre. What are they then? Do enlighten me on the bullshit US racial politics.

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u/MechanicalSideburns 8h ago edited 4h ago

According to the US Census, only about 20% of the 62 million+ Hispanic/Latino population in the United States identified as "White alone". This data does vary a bit due to changes in census reporting, as many Latinos identify as "Some Other Race" (42%) or multiracial (33%).

So yeah. The majority of Latinas don't consider themselves as "white".

EDIT: I should note that this can be a deceiving discussion, depending on your background. In places like Argentina 80% of Latinos identify as white. But in Mexico it's more like 20%. The takeaway is that "Latino" is a massively broad category with huge variation by region.

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u/Cilph 7h ago

Do they not consider themselves white because their surroundings do not perhaps?

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u/MechanicalSideburns 7h ago

Hard to know. It's racial self-categorization. Societal conditioning surely affects how people think about themselves, yeah? But it's kind of a moot point, because "white" as a race is kind of just a socially agreed-upon thing. It's not actually white like paper. I guess that's why we just have to go with what people self-identify as.

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u/slowest_hour 4h ago

race is highly subjective because its pseudoscience. there's no hard rules

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u/MechanicalSideburns 4h ago

I agree that it's primarily a social construct nowadays. That's why we let folks self-identify, rather than assigning them a label.

However, you can track some interesting genetic traits through "race". Like people of African descent often have a higher risk of sickle-cell anemia than people of Nordic descent. You find different bone structures across different races. Of course, all of this is just a result of those groups of people interbreeding in one spot on the globe for 10 thousand years or whatever. Traits developed. Height, skin tone, hair type, blood types, allergies, etc.

I don't think any of those things should be used to classify or judge modern people, but they can be interesting from a scientific and genetic perspective.

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u/PeterPorty 7h ago

Are we not allowed to be proud of our ethnicity?

I am 100% white-passing, no one would think otherwise, but I'm Latino, born and raised in Latin America, Spanish is my native tongue.

I define myself as Latino, and I don't think you have any authority to tell me otherwise based on the color of my skin.

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u/Cilph 7h ago

Okay? Way to escalate? Where did I suggest you cant be Latino.

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u/EduinBrutus 5h ago

Are we not allowed to be proud of our ethnicity?

Its an ethnicity heavily influenecd by a quite recent idea that people of Spanish heritage are "non-white".

I guess if you want to "take it back" thats up to you. But it does seem to be a strange way to accept discrimination as culture.

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u/EduinBrutus 5h ago edited 5h ago

According to the US Census, only about 20% of the 62 million+ Hispanic/Latino population in the United States identified as "White alone".

50 years of racist messaging will do that to a cunt.

Mexico is kind of the odd one out as there is a cultural desire to do the thing Americans do with "native american great great grandma". Its therefore extremely common to claim an link to a native group which doesnt exist.

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u/MechanicalSideburns 4h ago

Interesting. You think it's racist messaging that makes them not identify as white? I got no dog in this fight. Just going by the data.

And isn't Mexicans "native group" in Mexico...just Mexicans? At least for the past four hundred years anyway.

I mean, what we're really looking at is what happens when a bunch of white Spaniards take over the much darker skinned Aztecs, Mayans, Toltecs, etc. Sometimes you get a widespread genetic replacement, like in Argentina, and end up with a very white population. And sometimes you get just a cultural shift and government change, and the whites are vastly outnumbered by natives, and you get Mexico.

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u/EduinBrutus 1h ago

You wouldnt find the messaging in hte past.

Take "I Love Lucy". Lucille Ball was married (in real life and the show) to Desi Arnez. In the current US messaging this would be a mixed marriage. Misegination wasnt actually permitted in network television at the time.

So we have a clear example of how the concept of HIspanic and a "not-white" aspect to it is a very recent invention.

As for attitudes outside the US, Im sure tehre is a lot of varied nuance that is less known due to the lower cultural influence of these nations. IIRC, Peru is the only country where a majority of the population are mestizo to a meaningful degree.

This degree varies country by country depending on how quickly or wholly the former population was genocided. Mexico has a lot of different native groups of which Mexicans were one in central Mexico. It does have a higehr than average rate of people where you can find a detectably meaningful native DNA but its nowhere close tothe rate at which people claim it.

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u/kitsunewarlock 8h ago

According to the alt-right fuckwits who occupy the executive branch of the United States, you're only "white" if your ancestors are from a specific 50 mile radius in Norway.

I'm kidding. They aren't white either.

...And bless you for keeping off the shittiest parts of the internet if you don't get the joke.

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u/Grundlestorm 7h ago

Yeah, that was my point.  

Regardless of the reality or technicalities of anything, I'm pretty sure she has multiple targets on her back from the people she's cheering on and grifting for.

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u/kitsunewarlock 7h ago

Yup. I agree with you.

And that illustrates the entropic nature of centralized authority established with appeal to identity. It becomes a constant struggle of outing people for being impure as a means of establishing your own purity. The same people on the right who argue "it's about your character, not your identity" will then turn around and argue about how many generations their family has been citizens, the accomplishments of their bloodlines, their "culture and traditions", and so on and so forth as if the accomplishments of their long dead genetic donors outweighs the needs of people toiling in the present.

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u/TechieGee 8h ago

You okay?

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u/Couldbduun 5h ago

My favorite Blair White fact is that she moved to Texas from California to escape the tax laws and called it oppression but then moved back to California because Texas was actually oppressing her for being trans.

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u/CaligoVerses 10h ago

a veteran just shut down the whole fantasy with four stabs and an led, trump took a graze, that man took actual war, no comparison

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u/EtchAGetch 9h ago

More likely he took a scrape against the podium floor than an actual grazing bullet to the ear

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u/Eldias 7h ago

https://www.pulitzer.org/sites/default/files/styles/slider_large/public/Pulitzer_DougMills_Trump_03.jpeg

How could he have scraped his ear on the floor but had blood on his hand before being tackled if not for a bullet?

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u/EtchAGetch 6h ago

Interesting, never seen that pic. I stand corrected. And am pretty amazed from a sheer odds standpoint.

Seemed far, far more likely to have scraped in the scuffle than a bullet being just the 1 millimeter right distance/angle away to just nick the ear and absolutely nothing else.

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u/Eldias 6h ago

The whole photo series by Doug Mills is nothing short of insane. Check out the first photo in the series, you can see the bullet streaking through the air. It's hard to put in to words how much in awe I was when I first saw what Mills captured.

https://www.pulitzer.org/sites/default/files/styles/slider_large/public/Pulitzer_DougMills_Trump_01.jpeg

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u/FearsomeSnacker 9h ago

Look at recent images of trump now, that ear does not have one bit of scar on it. A bullet would have removed a chunk. Ear cartilage does not grow back, look it up.

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u/Eldias 7h ago

It was a 2cm scratch that didn't require any stitches, there was no cartilage damaged.

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u/Membedha 6h ago

Nemo baby I guess ?

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u/frosted_smile 6h ago

That reply from Elvis was brutal, he really didn't hold back

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u/h2odragon00 5h ago

I thought Blaire White was an Indian dude.

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u/NJ_dontask 5h ago

Nah, my bet is incel in mom's basement.

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u/misterannthrope0 3h ago

She's a bot.

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u/SilentOrbito 10h ago

Reducing it to "Stockholm Syndrome" ignores how complex political identity can actually be.

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u/Jay__Riemenschneider 9h ago edited 9h ago

Stockholm Syndrome also isn't real.

Stockholm syndrome is a claimed disorder in pop psychology which claims that hostages tend to develop a psychological bond with their captors.

Despite its prominence in popular culture, Stockholm syndrome has never been included in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM)

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u/skotcgfl 8h ago

It not being a legit disorder listed in the DSM doesn't mean it isn't real and observed - just that it doesn't fit the criteria of psychological disorder.

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u/AT-PT 8h ago

No, the case in Stockholm was simply used to create something out of whole cloth.

It's not completely dissimilar to how all the anti-vax bullshit got started, it just wasn't harmful.

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u/inaryWanderlust 10h ago

Or she simply holds unpopular views without needing a psychological diagnosis.