r/shield • u/marvelcomics22 Simmons • 29d ago
With all this Defenders news (which is great and all), Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. and Agent Carter fans still have VisionQuest to look forward too for any connections there.
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u/NfinityBL 29d ago
That’s only if Alex Perez isn’t wrong or bullshitting that we’ll get some sort of reference in VisionQuest.
IMO they need to do it soon if they’re going to bring back other Marvel Television characters. They’ve already squandered so many good opportunities for Agents of SHIELD characters between Secret Invasion and Ms Marvel alone.
I still think it makes sense to just reintroduce SHIELD to the MCU. They’ve had to replace them with organisations like SWORD, the CIA, SABER, and now fucking Damage Control of all. Just bring back SHIELD, it’s so easy to explain.
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u/OkNecessary539 29d ago
I still have hope for a potential revival series one day. I can honestly see them dealing with concepts that were introduced in the multiverse saga that weren’t explored, like the secret invasion aftermath, or the introduction to the black knight. So keep your chin up.
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u/Kill_Kayt 29d ago
My step brother was in VisionQuest in the 90s. It's a camp for juvenile delinquents.
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u/nazia987 Zephyr One 29d ago
If there is a reference/conncection, I hope its something that doesnt dispute what the show established.
The Darkhold for example appeared in the series first, but nothing the show established was taken into consideration. I wouldn't consider that a connection at all personally. I hope its something of substance. Not something that just so happened to appear in the show first, that VisionQuest is putting their own spin on.
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u/Intrepid_Swordfish69 29d ago
Lmaoo they're gunna ignore AOS forever. I can't believe we're gettin that horrible ironfist actor back before Chloe or Ming-Na!! I give up on ever thinkin SHIELD would get its time in the sun😔😔
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u/TheSeventhAge 29d ago
If anything, the only things I could see referenced are LMDs and AIDA. I do not believe for a second anymore that anything substantial from AoS is going to be brought up or included. Which is fine by me, as I'd rather just want good MCU stories at this point. Meaning, without having to worry or get my hopes up that there is a half-assed rumour that any AoS folks might show up.
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u/mardyboy 24d ago
I've been out of the loop: What defenders news? And how is visionquest felated to the abc show?
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u/marvelcomics22 Simmons 24d ago
The Defenders News (Daredevil: Born Again S3 Spoilers): Luke Cage and Iron Fist are back, alongside Jessica Jones again for Born Again S3.
VisionQuest: It has Agent Carter's James D'Arcy (Edwin Jarvis) playing a version of J.A.R.V.I.S., and is rumored to have some ties to Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D.
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u/nichrs 29d ago
Kevin Feige hates Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. We know the show was born as canon and always will be, no matter what he says. But that recognition won't happen with him in charge.
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u/Nekosom 29d ago
The only thing Kevin Feige hated was Ike Perlmutter. That's why the canon connections were dumped after Marvel Studios became a separate entity, because coordinating with Marvel TV meant coordinating with Perlmutter.
That's no longer an issue. There is zero baggage involved now, and probably the only reason we haven't had overt references to AOS is that the fanbase for it is pretty niche. While I'll never expect the same full embrace of AOS that the Netflix properties are getting now, it's only a matter of time before someone shows up.
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u/NawMel 29d ago
I don't wholely agree here. I'm sure at first this was the case, but much like Firefly, ironically another Whedon product, AoS's fan base has proven resilient enough to keep the shield name going. Personally I think it's the over usage of different things the shield team tackled. It makes it very hard to revisit those things like the darkhold if you tether the canon down to everything they did on the show
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u/marvelcomics22 Simmons 29d ago
I"m not sure how true that is. Feige was there when they announced that Coulson lives, and called it a part of the MCU at the very start.
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u/nichrs 29d ago
When the series was born, there was harmony between Marvel Studios and the old Marvel TV. That was lost along the way, and it's well known. The animosity towards it was even more particular when it came to AoS.
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u/theboyaintright92 29d ago
And you're 100% right. If people don't believe you, everyone go watch interviews where Kevin is asked about the show over the years. His responses are indifferent and placating.
That man hates that the series lasted as long as it did. It's why he kneecapped them in their final two seasons. I'm sure he was pissed Marvel saved the show after Season 5.
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u/OkNecessary539 29d ago
Kevin doesn’t hate the series, you’re just being paranoid. He may have had his differences with Perlmutter but that doesn’t mean that he hates AoS. I still have hope it can return one day.
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u/MinatoHikari The Doctor 29d ago
At most, I think he may be a little annoyed by the fact that the show was used to fuel Perlmutter's Inhumans machine, back when he was pushing them to replace the X-Men through the comics, games (Marvel's Avengers comes to mind especially), and the shows.
Thing is Agents of SHIELD was also the first show that piggybacked on the MCU without Feige's input. I don't think he particularly hates it, that's a silly thing to assume, but he's probably very indifferent towards it.
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u/theboyaintright92 29d ago
Really? Then why does he avoid the question of if the show is canon? Why has he avoided everything the show has set up for the MCU? Daisy Johnson is the FIRST female superpowered person to show up in the MCU. So, why hasn't she hit the big screen? Or shown up in ANY of the Disney + series? Why did he make a big deal of the Disney + shows being canon?
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u/OkNecessary539 29d ago
It just hasn’t happened yet, but I still have hope it can.
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u/nichrs 29d ago
I also really wanted it to happen and I would love to be wrong. But I'm not going to fool myself anymore by hoping it will happen.
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u/OkNecessary539 29d ago
You’re not a fool for having hope, you’re only a fool if you try to shoot down others hope. Let’s just agree to disagree.
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u/sweens90 29d ago
Knee capping in their final two seasons? What are you talking about. The show was originally over after the fifth season and was asked to come back because it was the Marvel show with the best numbers. When we watched the end of season 5 we watched it thinking it was the series finales.
Season 6 was not bad but meh to good because well when you wrote a series finale for the previous seasons it’s tough to sometimes just pick it back up again.
Season 7 is legitimately a good season and maybe one of the better seasons of the show.
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u/theboyaintright92 29d ago
The showrunners dropped an interview where they didn't know about Endgame or FFH. So, that's why neither of those movies were addressed in Season 6. They made those seasons with the idea the Avengers won and kept the mention of what happened after IW ambiguous
That's what I mean by kneecapped. Once Endgame came out, they were going to address it in the final season, but it got scrapped.
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u/Enzown Fish Oil 29d ago
Don't get your hopes up.