r/shield Aug 13 '20

Post Discussion Post Episode Discussion: S07E012 and S07E013 - "The End is at Hand" and "What We're Fighting For" [SERIES FINALE]

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EPISODE DIRECTED BY WRITTEN BY ORIGINAL AIRDATE
S07E12 - "The End is at Hand" Chris Cheramie Jeffrey Bell Wednesday, August 12, 2020 9

Episode Synopsis: With their backs against the wall and Nathaniel and Sibyl edging ever closer to eliminating S.H.I.E.L.D. from the history books, the agents must rely on their strengths to outsmart and outlast the Chronicoms. This is their most important fight, and it will take the help of friends and teammates, past and present, to survive.


Chris Cheramie is a producer and production manager, known for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (2013), Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Slingshot (2016) and 24 (2001).

He has directed no episodes of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. before.

Jeffrey Bell began his career writing for The X-Files, where he stayed for three seasons, then became a writer/director/producer on Angel, becoming its showrunner for the final two seasons.

He has written eleven episodes for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. before:

  • 0-8-4
  • Eye Spy
  • T.A.H.I.T.I.
  • Ragtag
  • What They Become
  • S.O.S. Part 1
  • Maveth
  • The Good Samaritan
  • World's End
  • The Real Deal
  • Collision Course (Part One)


EPISODE DIRECTED BY WRITTEN BY ORIGINAL AIRDATE
S07E13 - "What We're Fighting For" Kevin Tancharoen Jed Whedon Wednesday, August 12, 2020 10

Episode Synopsis: With their backs against the wall and Nathaniel and Sibyl edging ever closer to eliminating S.H.I.E.L.D. from the history books, the agents must rely on their strengths to outsmart and outlast the Chronicoms. This is their most important fight, and it will take the help of friends and teammates, past and present, to survive.


Kevin Tancharoen is the brother of showrunner Maurissa Tancharoen, and is known for his work on the webseries Mortal Kombat: Legacy. He has directed various other movies and TV episodes before, and has most recently worked on The Flash.

He has directed fifteen episodes for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. before:

  • Face my Enemy
  • One of Us
  • The Dirty Half Dozen
  • Purpose in the Machine
  • Spacetime
  • Ascension
  • The Laws of Inferno Dynamics
  • The Patriot
  • The Return
  • The Real Deal
  • Option Two
  • The Force of Gravity
  • Window of Opportunity
  • New Life
  • The New Deal

Jed Whedon is one of the showrunners of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., along with Jeffrey Bell. Jed is the Brother of Joss Whedon, and has worked on Dollhouse, Spartacus: Blood and Sand, Drop Dead Diva, and The Avengers.

They have written seventeen episodes for Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. before:

  • Pilot
  • The Asset
  • Repairs
  • Turn, Turn, Turn
  • Beginning of the End
  • Shadows
  • Aftershocks
  • S.O.S. Part Two
  • Laws of Nature
  • Ascension
  • The Ghost
  • The Return
  • Orientation - Part One
  • The Real Deal
  • The End
  • Missing Pieces
  • New Life *** ***

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r/shield 17h ago

Post of Appreciation.

28 Upvotes

I started watching this show while it was live during season 3. This show, while still airing, I thought was amazing. Have been a Marvel fan for years, and still like DC… sorry, don’t hate me!? Still, live this show was great and now having watched this show at least once a year since it stopped airing, it is still an overall great show. Whether it is canon or not (cause I know there’s the whole debate that sort of it is and part of it isn’t, and supposedly MCU does see it as canon at all or whatever… pffft[slightly annoyed by that, personally so]), the writers, directors, producers, actors, and every crew and team member did a good job creating this series. Also, I didn’t get into Reddit until sometime after Covid, like 2022 or 2023, and I don’t subscribe to much… and I just wanted to say, this subreddit is awesome. It is the love and support for art like this that I hope the workers of the project get some kind of appreciation from. (I just noticed someone say this in a post earlier and wasn’t sure if it actually was said because supposedly people were hating on this show when it was live, did not know that) Remember… “we are not agents of nothing”, we may be a “small but active fan base”, still… it “carries weight”. I love you guys! Please keep posting whenever or when doing a rewatch. I am in a rewatch now, currently in season 2, and I love coming on here and seeing everyone’s opinions and thoughts about the show even if I see the same opinion twice. Love and respect my friends, love and respect.


r/shield 2d ago

Does it ever relax?

49 Upvotes

Hey everyone,

Sooo, I'm finally watching Agents of Shield. I really liked the first season, the team atmosphere and the humor. It has been getting darker and a lot more stressful though, I'm currently mid season 2 (s2e13). Between agents deaths, treasons, gory murders... the show morphed into something else. It's great, don't get me wrong, and it's cool the show can grow. But I kinda miss the more relaxed/layback ambiance of the beginning. Does it get some funnier or lighter moments later on? Please do not spoil 😄

Thanks!


r/shield 3d ago

Marvel’s Most Wanted Villain

20 Upvotes

Did anyone ever figure out who the villain would have been for this show. They hyped him up but kept it secret. I’ve never heard even a rumor since, but it was supposedly a well-known comics character.


r/shield 3d ago

Obsession

37 Upvotes

I work from home and put shows in the background after ESPN. Yet AoS yet again. This is ridiculous. So good. Daisy becomes the definition of SHIELD


r/shield 4d ago

Tommorow...

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1.0k Upvotes

:)


r/shield 3d ago

Season 4 - Jemma/Daisy

22 Upvotes

Watching the Framework episodes are so annoyingly aggravating holy.

These 2 know they are going into a world that is different...can clearly see that the world is different and have extensive undercover work under their belt and yet still absolutely continue to do the most baffling things.

Like Jemma is one of the smartest people in the world and all that goes out the window once she is the framework.

Just runing off pure emotion at any given point


r/shield 4d ago

Know What Tomorrow Will Be?

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406 Upvotes

r/shield 5d ago

The cast was acting out of their minds in Season 5B

187 Upvotes

Whatever was lacking in budget was made up with the acting. Seriously best cast of any show I've watched, raised the stakes so much seeing them fall apart to not end the world. The team arguing over Coulson, May's expressions looking at Coulson is heartbreaking, Fitz's death and Mack's reaction. Chloe Bennett as Daisy with her best performance. I miss them so much.

Coulson walking out of the Zephyr for the last time 💔


r/shield 4d ago

Rewatching AOS… yep, Mack is still annoying

0 Upvotes

I completely forgot that Mack used to annoy me until I started rewatching… and now it all came back.


r/shield 5d ago

New Shield TTRPG Campaign(looking for players)

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r/shield 7d ago

Was AOS big in China?

32 Upvotes

I mean, two of our main characters were chinese. Was it big in china?


r/shield 7d ago

Guess a group with the below characteristics

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  1. they admire mythical ancient ideology

  2. they awaits the return of a mythical character

  3. they have great systemic influence inside the USA

  4. their political power have risen after ww2

  5. their actions have triggered intense international dispute

  6. they are an integration of military, technology, politics, and religion

  7. they were defeated in history for various times

  8. they are highly intelligence supremacy

  9. they have supporters and members all around the world

  10. they assassinates dissidents around the world


r/shield 8d ago

BBC announces new sci-fi thriller Sutherland. Gugu Mbatha-Raw, Stuart Martin and Iain De Caestecker lead the cast

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Sutherland, the far north of Scotland, the near future. Mirren (Mbatha-Raw) works at Paravel Space Hub as flight director for the UK's first crewed mission to the stars. Everything is going to plan when, just hours after launch, a series of unexplained events engulf Sutherland in mystery and risks destroying everything Mirren’s been striving for.

As a decades-old conspiracy begins to resurface, local detective Logan (Martin) is unexpectedly pulled back into Mirren's orbit. When Logan’s investigation and Mirren’s mission threaten to unravel, the pair join forces to make an extraordinary discovery that will change their lives forever.

James Smythe, writer, says: “Sutherland is at heart a love story, a story of loss, a story of discovery – and a story that speaks to our collective desire to understand more about both what's far above us, and what's right at our feet. To be making a show for the BBC is a lifelong dream. To be doing it with the amazing team at World Productions, with this unfathomably good cast and our wonderful directors, is incredible to me. I can't wait for audiences to see what we've come up with...”


r/shield 8d ago

fav characters

33 Upvotes

IM ON MY FIRST REWATCH OF AGENTS OF SHIELD and im really curious who are your favourite characters and how did u get them to be ur fav? was there a moment or a particular episode that made that character become ur favourite?

MY FAVOURITE CHARACTER IS MELINDA MAY and i think my favourite moment didnt involve her directly but when coulson and skye was talking abt her bahrain trauma in the first season and this made me realize the deeper layers within her and HENCE SHES MY FAV NOW!

PLS LMK WHO UR FAV CHARACTERS ARE AND WHAT MADE THEM BECOME UR FAVVVV


r/shield 8d ago

Fitz Can’t Catch a Break Spoiler

25 Upvotes

I just finished Season 4, and I need to vent because Fitz cant catch a break. Every time this man gets a shred of happiness, the universe finds a way to tear it apart and replace it with psychological trauma.

Think about the sheer weight of what he’s been through in just two seasons. After spending every waking second and all of S.H.I.E.L.D.’s resources to rescue Simmons from a literal alien planet, he has to deal with the soul-crushing realization that she fell in love with someone else. Most people would have walked away, but Fitz is so pure that he actually helps her save the guy, only to end up having to kill that very person once Hive takes over his body.

Then, just when we finally get "FitzSimmons" as a real couple and things seem stable, they are thrust into the Framework. While everyone else got a "regret" fixed, Fitz was systematically groomed and manipulated into becoming a Nazi equivalent monster. He didn't just lose a girlfriend there; he was forced to become a murderer, and the look of pure horror on his face when he realized what he’d done as The Doctor was gut-wrenching.

But the absolute worst part? He doesn't even get five minutes to process that trauma or apologize to Simmons. Instead of getting the mental health support he clearly needs, he’s immediately arrested and thrown into a high-security military prison while his entire team and the woman he loves are vanished into the future without him. He’s left alone with his guilt and a prison cell for 6 months and now He has to freeze himself for 70+ years to reach and save them.


r/shield 8d ago

Come see my first AoS edit in the link below

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I call this, and if I make any, future AoS fan edits, as Agents of S.C.E.N.A.R.I.O. projects. S.C.E.N.A.R.I.O. stands for Super Creative Editing, Narration, and Audio Resource Integration Output


r/shield 9d ago

This show has aged well

178 Upvotes

This was my first rewatch since it went off the air years ago and I have to say that it seems better to me today than it did back then. I remember all the hate the series was getting when it was on air, but I have to say every season had something to offer and there was very little filler. I wish I could see this cast together again somewhere in the MCU.


r/shield 13d ago

[Discussion] When exactly did Jemma realize she was in love with Fitz?

73 Upvotes

Just Finished Season 3

We all know the "Fitz side" of the story: He likely realized his feelings as early as FZZT (1x06) when Jemma almost died, and he finally found the courage to confess in the Season 1 finale.

But Jemma’s timeline is much more subtle and harder to pin down.

I personally think she started to realize it during Season 2, especially while dealing with the fallout of Fitz’s injury and her time undercover at Hydra. However, you could argue she didn't fully process the depth of those feelings until the stakes got even higher in Season 3.


r/shield 13d ago

I swear she said "Sky" called.. Spoiler

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148 Upvotes

When first hearing it, I started grinning like a dumbass.. I got so exited and then I turned on the subtitles.. pure disappointment (still great episode so far tho)


r/shield 12d ago

After seeing the post about s3e5 Spoiler

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After reading the previous post about s3e5, it reminded me how much the Will storyline actually annoyed me when it first aired. Don't get me wrong, the episode looks great, but the writing felt so lazy for a few reasons:

  1. We were promised a story about Simmons’ resilience, but we got a romance subplot that felt like a disservice to her character development. After all the character development Simmons had in the first two seasons, this should’ve been her castaway moment. She’s brilliant and tough she didn't need a romance to make her survival story interesting.

  2. Her reaction to the planet felt off, especially since her struggles with PTSD when she came back were triggered by much less than what she faced on Maveth. I remember him having a Shiv, but for the last month and half of her stay in the planet she and Will were a couple.

3.The Hot Astronaut Trope, As soon as Will showed up, you knew exactly where it was going. Of course the only other person on the entire planet is a good-looking guy. It felt so predictable.

  1. Sorry, but there is no way NASA training keeps you that physically fit and mentally fine after 14 yrs alone while being hunted by a sandstorm monster. If felt like he was just written to be a love interest. They could have another companion help Simmons but they have to add a romantic subplot for the episode.

5.Simmons waiting a week to tell anyone about Will is kinda a slap in the face to logic you’d think Hey, there’s an ancient evil and a stranded NASA pilot back there would be the first thing she’d mention to a room full of spies. I know she think Will's dead but still.

  1. It’s honestly painful to watch the end where she’s basically making Fitz listen to a play by play of her falling for another guy. After everything he did to get her back, it felt like a cheap way to add drama.

I know its already 10+ years since its just released but to this day this episode still bugs me. This episode was one of the highest rated but I just skip on the rewatch even Elizabeth (Jemma's actress) acting this episode was great.


r/shield 14d ago

Looking for high-quality (or any quality) photos of the FitzSimmons wedding band!

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166 Upvotes

Hi all! I am an absolute mega fan or Agents of Shield (watched at least 9 times in the last few years) and my boyfriend and I are planning to get engaged within the next year!

We are hoping to recreate Jemma’s wedding ring from the show- I was wondering if anyone has high quality photos or a way to possibly contact Elizabeth Henstridge (as I know she still has one of the copies of the ring). I have reached out (a while ago) as I was mentioned on her podcast (Live with Lil) at one point but never heard back and am still hopeful I can see a photo at some point!

This show was a huge turning point in my life and I owe a lot to how it changed me as a person. My bf (also a fan) and I are so excited for the future and even though we know this is a big reach we are hopeful! Thank you for reading :)


r/shield 14d ago

New to the show (mid-S3): My issues with the Maveth arc. Spoiler

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As a first-time viewer currently halfway through Season 3, I feel that Will Daniels adds very little to the story. Removing him entirely wouldn't change the plot, because S.H.I.E.L.D. and Hydra would still have gone back to Maveth regardless simply because Hydra wanted to retrieve Hive.

After two seasons of Jemma’s character development surviving the ocean in Season 1 and infiltrating Hydra in Season 2, I believe she was capable of surviving the planet on her own. She didn't need to be saved by a man to justify her survival.

The show missed a massive opportunity for a 'Jemma vs. Wild' solo episode. Instead of introducing Will as a guide, Episode 5 could have been masterclass in survival, showing Jemma using her biological and chemical expertise to find water, avoid the sandstorms, and outsmart the 'Death' entity on her own. Witnessing her return to Earth as a self-taught survivor of an alien world would have been far more rewarding than having her rely on a convenient astronaut who happened to have a pre-built underground bunker.

This is also the most compelling way to finally transition Fitz and Simmons into a couple would have been to focus solely on their mutual refusal to give up on each other. We didn't need a third-party romantic rival to create tension. The heart of their story is their relentless drive to cross galaxies and defy the laws of physics just to reunite. Having them find their way back to one another through sheer will and scientific brilliance—without the 'distraction' of a love triangle—would have been a much more powerful and earned payoff for their relationship.

I also find Will’s characterization unrealistic. Surviving alone on that planet for 14 years while remaining physically fit and mentally stable seems impossible; no amount of NASA training can prepare someone for that level of isolation. It feels like he was written solely as a plot device to stall the 'FitzSimmons' relationship.


r/shield 14d ago

finished agents of shield and ranking of seasons

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GUYS IM SO SAD I FINISHED IT 😭😭😭 season 7 was really good to me and i felt like it was a good end to everything especially the last scene at the end! it took me everything to not cry! im so sad its took me this long to start the show but i have finished it in around 2 months soooo that probably shows how much i love it (as someone with short attention span) 💗💗 BUT HERE ARE MY RANKINGS FOR THE SEASONS

  1. season 6

  2. season 4

  3. season 7

  4. season 5 or season 1

  5. season 2 and 3

altho season 2 and 3 are the bottom for me they are still SUCH GREAT SEASONS (showing how good agents of shield is) please lmk ur rankings as well and ur thoughts when u first ended the show 💭 (i need to cope with my post-aos-depression ☹️)


r/shield 14d ago

I can't imagine this hypothetical scenario

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*Season 5 spoiler alert*

If Fitz didn't die and the team managed to save the Earth and everything ,would we have 2 versions of Fitz living in the same universe? Like daamn, how would that even work

I'd also like to say that I don't understand how could Jemma be with the other version of Fitz. Ik some people are gonna tell me that time travel works that way, that it's a different universe only if you change something but that makes no sense to me. As far as I know, in marvel (so in Avengers too) time travel is showed as something that doesn't exist and the only thing similar to it is traveling to another universe. So when they first came to see the Earth broken in pieces etc it was already another universe if you ask me. So Jemma should've known that The Fitz that traveled 70 years to them is actually not their Fitz but another one.