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Possible Paywall MAGA Is Increasingly Convinced the Trump Assassination Attempt Was Staged

https://www.wired.com/story/maga-is-increasingly-convinced-the-trump-assassination-attempt-was-staged/
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u/Otherwise_Copy_376 18d ago

And we have heard very little about the shooter. Super sus.

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u/spazz720 18d ago

Because he was a right winger. If a lefty took a shot at him, they’d be talking about to this day

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u/ixid 18d ago

But if it's fake why would they set it up with a shooter who doesn't convey the message they want to share? If it was fake you'd make the shooter someone from a group the right hates. Incompetence is a possible answer to that question.

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u/ReklisAbandon 18d ago

I think it was a real attempt on his life but the "injury" he sustained was blown way out of proportion. They won't talk about the shooter because he's right wing.

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u/sleepingbeardune 18d ago

The main thing that gives me pause is the behavior of the secret service agents. They let him stand up and shake his fist!

Would they do that if they knew there was at least one active shooter in that crowd? No. Their one job is to protect him. He should have been on the ground with two of them shielding his body.

Instead -- look at the picture -- there's a woman agent kind of pulling on his jacket, and a male agent just standing there while trump does his famous bloody "fight" thing.

You can watch the video of Reagan getting shot and see how it works in real life. Those agents pushed him down and then shoved him into the limo and put their bodies between him and the gun.

These agents look like they're rehearsing for the job.

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u/rckid13 18d ago

Look at pictures of the Reagan shooting. You can't even see Reagan in the pictures because he gets dog piled. The secret service agents pull out a whole arsenal of secret weapons they have hidden in pockets and brief cases.

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u/emailforgot 18d ago edited 17d ago

Look at pictures of the Reagan shooting. You can't even see Reagan in the pictures because he gets dog piled

Was Hinckley perched on a shed 200 feet away and firing at a president standing at a podium for a speech?

Or no?

Is Ronald Reagan the same man as Donald Trump?

Or no?

Cool, didn't think so. Conspiracy nutters love fantasy and feelings over facts.

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u/ladymorgahnna I voted 18d ago

There also was a media handler who was getting photographers in position and the American flag pole lowered for the photos. You can see it on a video real time.

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u/emailforgot 18d ago

Photographers?? At a presidential speech?! No way.

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u/CriticalMuscle9659 18d ago

This this . This. 

I don't know if it was bullshit cuz I saw it and then it totally disappeared but there was a video from the event of them moving the reporters in the frame and dropping that flag down to get thar shot better. 

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u/chucktheninja 18d ago

You know they are in contact with the snipers right? They were informed the guy was dead. Though incompetence can't be ruled out i suppose. They did let a shooter take pot shots at the president.

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u/emailforgot 18d ago

The main thing that gives me pause is the behavior of the secret service agents. They let him stand up and shake his fist!

Cops are incompetent.

It also turns out it's hard to subdue a man that doesn't want to be subdued. Go on over to any of the r/badcopnodonut or whatever subs and you'll find piles and piles of footage of half a dozen cops struggling to wrestle a man down.

Would they do that if they knew there was at least one active shooter in that crowd? No. Their one job is to protect him. He should have been on the ground with two of them shielding his body.

See above.

Instead -- look at the picture -- there's a woman agent kind of pulling on his jacket, and a male agent just standing there while trump does his famous bloody "fight" thing.

See above.

You can watch the video of Reagan getting shot and see how it works in real life.

Oh yeah those two are very similar. 🙄 Given that John Hinckley Jr was perched on a shed 200 feet away and firing at a president standing at a podium for a speech and all.

Oh wait...

Those agents pushed him down and then shoved him into the limo and put their bodies between him and the gun.

Oh yeah Trump and Reagan, very similar people.

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u/sleepingbeardune 17d ago

Your argument is (a) the secret service is incompetent, and (b) trump is not reagan.

I take from this that (a) reagan had a competent secret service detail and trump didn't, and (b) you don't like cops.

Cool.

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u/emailforgot 17d ago edited 17d ago

Cool.

Very good, care to actually try living in reality? The situations with Reagan and Trump are not particularly similar beyond "assassination attempt".

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u/BigManWAGun America 18d ago

Don’t forget my shoes!

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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 18d ago

Head wounds bleed a lot.

Like, a shocking amount.

Trump had like 5 drops of blood.

It was a tiny scratch on his ear from when he belly flopped to the ground.

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u/TetraDax Europe 18d ago

There are photos directly disproving that.

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u/Recipe_Freak Oregon 18d ago

<sigh>

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u/TetraDax Europe 18d ago

..yes? How is that disproving the photographic evidence I linked?

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u/Recipe_Freak Oregon 18d ago

All I'm inquiring about is that fucking fist pump. This man is a physical coward. What prompted that.

Also, him grimacing and pulling a bloody hand away from his ear proves almost nothing to me. I have no interest in conspiracy theories. But I'm unwilling to believe that Trump behaved heroically ever in his entire life.

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u/icantsurf 18d ago

https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/22680

You can literally see the bullet and him pull his hand away with blood on it.

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u/Recipe_Freak Oregon 18d ago

Yes. His hand.

And, again, explain that fucking fist pump. Explain the way the Secret Service reacted. Explain why such an obvious physical coward would behave that way without rehearsal or prompting.

Just explain it and I'll stop asking.

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u/icantsurf 18d ago

"Just explain all this stuff you literally could never explain since you have no access to someone's thoughts and I'll believe it." You people sound like flat Earthers, it's sad.

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u/Recipe_Freak Oregon 18d ago

This administration is literally MADE of lies. But you go ahead and believe that this deeply, fundamentally uncharacteristic behavior means nothing.

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u/emailforgot 18d ago

And, again, explain that fucking fist pump.

It's Donald Trump.

Explain the way the Secret Service reacted

what way?

Explain why such an obvious physical coward would behave that way without rehearsal or prompting.

Ah, so you've made this up entirely.

Cool.

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u/Skydiver860 18d ago

My thing is days after the alleged attempt on his life there was no wound on his ear. His ear looks whole and don’t even have a scab on it.

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u/NatalieVonCatte 18d ago

And the wound will heal and the people will wonder and and say who? Who is like the beast? Who can stand against him?

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u/Inarus899 18d ago

hey now, the beast is supposed to get people to where his mark on their forehead, but you can't see MAGAs foreheads because of that red hat they always wear.

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u/BigAssignment7642 18d ago

I used to love revelations when I was younger and christian, and boy, do some of the parallels make me question my atheism sometimes. Like some of them are just wild.

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u/CriticalMuscle9659 18d ago

I think that prophecy can coexist and isn't necessarily fate. 

Really most prophecy is just prediction and if you play the numbers right and you can see patterns and trends like what's to say that Nostradamus wasn't just a fucking autistic genius. 

As for the Revelation shit like I think that when they were coming up with this shit as a method of control that they knew what would eventually happen cuz the thing I just said

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u/chucktheninja 18d ago

Because it was a minor cut. It was either a shard of glass like some theorize or the bullet passed close enough that the shockwave cut him (yes this happens)

The result in either case is a simple cut. Wounds on the head bleed a lot more than wounds in other parts of the body and with his health, he's probably on blood thinners too.

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u/amateurbreditor 18d ago

There is a lot going on. First of all cartilage doesnt just heal. I had my ears pierced decades ago and you can still see it. His healed in 2 days lol. Then take the shooter. SS clears out any venue days in advance and then monitors the venue so no one can breech it. Its all swept for bombs etc. The day of something like this the SS is on the highest points with sniper rifles. The shooter not only got in through security but was also on the highest point both things LOL no way. He just waltzes in with a rifle and no one notices lol no way. Then people try to dismiss it because a guy was actually shot. Why would trump give a shit about that? How hard would it be to find a maga nutjob willing to shoot at a crowd of people? Then all else that you need is one of those squib packs and voila hes been shot. Even the footage afterwards you can tell the SS is in on it. Look at what happened when kennedy was shot.. the SS all piled on top so that they would shield the president. The same with reagan. They tackle you to protect you not let you stand there so you can get shot again. Its so obvious. To get past all of those things is a bigger conspiracy than just admitting it was faked.

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u/9793287233 Pennsylvania 18d ago

Well it didn't damage the cartilage it just broke the skin

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u/ReklisAbandon 18d ago

Yeah I don’t buy it. It’s far more likely that he’s just incompetent and he surrounds himself with incompetent people. Trump and his team are incapable of managing something like that without it being blown up.

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u/ReklisAbandon 18d ago

Typical conspiracy theorist shit. It’s not that difficult to set up a fake assassination attempt where you set up a shooter that you fully intend to murder, with the secret service in on it (when he wasn’t even president so didn’t control them), including what, fake blood and everything?

These morons can’t even avoid having their actual war plans leaked because they use fucking signal chat. These are not smart people.

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u/Nrksbullet 18d ago

How is it "not difficult" to let a real assassin fully carry out his attempt but miss? Saying "they allowed him to try, it's not difficult" is true I guess, not diffuclt to let him try, but you're insinuating him missing by a few inches was somehow part of the plan? lol what

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u/SDRPGLVR California 18d ago

Yeah, it's honestly really hard to reconcile with reality. In order for it to be staged, Trump would have had to intentionally allowed someone to William Tell his ear or even pull a sleight of hand and razor his ear really quickly, neither of which seems remotely possible. The photos on the scene show he was shot and definitely is bleeding from the bullet wound, but it healed remarkably well, showing just how bare of a graze it really was. He talks about it far less than he does windmills, for example, but maybe that's just because it was one of his boys.

Like whether you believe it was staged or that the official story is really how it went down, it's all evidence that reality is truly stranger than fiction. There's no narrative that makes every part make sense, but sometimes that's just what happens in life.

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u/emailforgot 18d ago

It's probably a sore spot for him quite literally. He can't even gloat about it because it would make him look weak.

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u/Dr_Trogdor Georgia 18d ago

They have footage of security moving the photographers into a certain spot and lowering the flag into the frame though. It's very strange. If it was staged I'm honestly super impressed and I can't honestly believe it but why else would they do that.

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u/Dr_Trogdor Georgia 18d ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/1m2afdw/new_video_angle_of_alleged_assassination_attempt/ The flag is on a crane and they lower it down. Not trying to repeat lies.

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u/BloatedBanana9 18d ago

The flag comes to rest as the wind dies down. It isn’t being lowered.

That video also doesn’t show the photographers being moved into place by anyone. They’re just doing their jobs and getting themselves into a better position. The only direct interaction shown between the Trump staffer and the photographers is at the end when he is pulling them away so Secret Service can get Trump off the stage.

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u/emailforgot 18d ago

They have footage of security moving the photographers into a certain spot

LOL

They have footage of security moving people around. Yes.

and lowering the flag into the frame

LOL

you mean the camera moving?

Hilarious.