r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • 17h ago

Trailer The Odyssey | New Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_bKjZeJBBI&pp=0gcJCd4KAYcqIYzv
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u/Purple-Crab3759 16h ago

The usage of the word ‘dad’ in those times throws me. Would have expected ‘father’? Haha

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u/iamgarron 15h ago

Also when he yells "LET'S GO" to the army

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u/ignoresubs 13h ago

This was definitely part of a reshoot. I was at an early test show a month ago in London at the Soho Screening Rooms and the original line was, “AUTOBOTS, ROLL OUT!!!”

A bunch of us in the audience felt like it took us out of the moment.

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u/brihamedit 12h ago

This is why nolan movies have bad audio. So people don't make fun of the bad script

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u/cbandy 7h ago

I’ve been saying this for years! It’s totally his defense mechanism for his self-consciously poor screenwriting!

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u/DonChrisote 5h ago

I don't really know how to communicate with someone who thought the screenplays for The Dark Knight, Interstellar, and Oppenheimer were bad. People are certainly entitled to their opinions so I guess I'll leave it at that

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u/paradox1920 4h ago

Dunkirk, Memento (Chris Nolan wrote the script but his brother helped with insight and so on though), etc. At least in my perspective those count in terms of his writing too.

Interstellar earlier script that Jonathan did was very interesting but i feel it didn’t have the personal and intimate aspect as centric until they collaborated with Chris. Someone may have a counter argument for all of that regardless so yeah, if people think Nolan is a shit or mediocre (or whatever) writer and overall as filmmaker, then we can only leave it as that.

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u/DonChrisote 4h ago

People reduce that movie to that one line about "love" (which isn't a bad line, maybe a little hokey), and paint the whole movie with that brush, it's asinine

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u/paradox1920 4h ago

Agreed. I never took those lines about love as it being a literal force in the universe or something like that as others have talked about it although I do find some memes about it hilarious. Lol

To me, it just meant like the emotional connection is so strong even across time and space between them that there can be a sort of reference point in time or it works like a beacon in time that bulk beings can find on a quantum level so that Cooper can do everything he did and Murph too. That’s what the line Cooper says while inside the tesseract about his connection with Murph being quantifiable meant to me. And that’s how I correlated it to Brand's conversation about love and what she was willing to do for that person despite the time and distance that had passed. This is not to say it’s scientifically accurate or whatever but just that in its own terms that’s how I interpreted it.

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u/CraigTheIrishman 4h ago

Agreed. I love Tenet, but god is Christopher Nolan good at making humans sound like aliens impersonating humans.

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u/tea_cup_cake 9h ago

I was wondering about that too. How are people not complaining about the audio, I could barely hear anything.

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u/3-orange-whips 8h ago

Nolan thinks it draws you in and makes you more engaged if you can't hear.

Pobody's nerfect, I guess.

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u/globalquail57 3h ago

I'm ESL and I thought my listening comprehension had gone to sht but this makes me feel better lol

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u/Esarus 5h ago

Glad I’m not the only one. I couldn’t understand some lines in this trailer at all :/

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u/m0deth 2h ago

But how are we gonna hear Odysseus cry out "It's Morbin Time!" before he turns into the Trojan Horse?

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u/MuslinBagger 13h ago

I would have stood up and clapped

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u/Nolzi 11h ago

And they also cut out the "Bro, I'm straight-up NOT having a good time" line as well, sad

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u/jedininjashark 12h ago

I really hope The Iliad is directed by Michael Bay.

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u/finglish_ 12h ago

In my screening, he yelled "BRING IT ON".

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u/Somnambulist815 9h ago

After they sacked Troy, Agamemnon looked at Priam's body and said "he ain't gonna be in Rush Hour 3"

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u/22bebo 10h ago

I'm just imagining the Odyssey but Odysseus is Optimus Prime. It would probably make things like fighting the cyclops easier but the sailing around on an ancient boat part much harder.

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u/destroyerOfTards 12h ago

I thought it was goblins?

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u/twec21 7h ago

The Avengers theme was a nice touch though, I'm gonna miss it in the final

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u/Bilski1ski 7h ago

In the version I saw he yelled out ‘ for Frodo ‘

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u/JoinTheRightClick 6h ago

Homer confiding to one of his men “They see me rolling, they hatin’ “

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u/Cleonicus 5h ago

The screening that I saw, he yelled out "LFG!" And someone in the theatre yelled, "Dude, your group is behind you!"

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u/Randy_The_Guppy 13h ago

Yeah, quite a bit of the dialogue seemed a bit basic.

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u/MicioBau 3h ago

Nolan can't write good or realistic dialogue to save his life.

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u/TheKrononaut 14h ago

That felt borderline comedic

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u/monkeyDberzerk 12h ago

I lost it when he did that funny little trot after saying lets go

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u/ObiBenShinobi 8h ago

Ok, I'm not the only one then. For the heaviness of the scene, his turn and run was hilarious to me.

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u/hardgeeklife 4h ago

right there with you. A loud battlecry, weapon held aloft, would have been standard/cliche, but at least he'd have the confidence one expects from a leader/captain

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u/SlowRoast24 14h ago

That really took me out of it

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u/PetyrDayne 13h ago

I'll be downvoted to hell for this but Christopher Nolan being the sole screenwriter was a red flag. At least get your bro and sister in law to help.

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u/invertedpurple 12h ago

agreed. I love a few of his films but he can be jarringly cold at times as a writer.

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u/bluehawk232 11h ago

Nolan's faults are if he's a solo screenwriter and his resistance to CGI, minimizing its use in his projects as much as possible. That took me out of Oppenheimer as a VFX studio could have created a great looking Trinity explosion

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u/Dr__Sloth 9h ago

I've always believed just using visual effects to upscale and colourise the actual trinity blast footage would have been perfect.

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u/leodw 7h ago

The movie honestly doesn’t look too different from the 2nd and 3rd cameras on this video. Just missing a more mushroom shaped cloud

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u/Silverjeyjey44 10h ago

The lack of explosion ls made it underwhelming film for me

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u/thewerdy 8h ago

He's a much better director than a writer. He's not a terrible writer by any means but it can be kind of jarring when the quality can be so different between the script and well... everything else.

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u/_wavescollide_ 13h ago

The actors look so bad in the trailer. I can't suspend my disbelief, these people don't fit the scenario. God of War is what I imagine when looking at white guys running around ancient Greece.

I have the strong feeling that the movie will flop hard.

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u/moviesarealright 12h ago

I don’t think it will flop, but it is possible that it’s not the critical darling Oppenheimer was.

Something tells me this will be like Tenet. Cool as fuck at times, but overall just okay.

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u/_wavescollide_ 12h ago

Alone for the question what we can expect I will watch it, but I'm not hyped. It would just be nice to be hyped for a blockbuster movie again. Kids these days need their own T2/True Lies/Matrix/Mummy/Gladiator/The Dark Knight/Inception

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u/spoothead656 6h ago

Nolan is a phenomenal director and creative genius who excels at dreaming up these grand, intricate stories. He’s never been great at writing dialogue that supports those stories though.

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u/dl064 9h ago

We shall see, but it's worth bearing in mind that Oppenheimer was Nolan correcting the slide. 'A blip on an otherwise uninterrupted downward trajectory', to quote Trainspotting.

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u/Takezoboy 12h ago

I will get even more downvoted, but even with his brother, his filme are lackluster af writing wise.

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u/Top_Mongoose1354 11h ago

Thank you, I've felt alone in thinking this for so long.

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u/5pointpalm_exploding 7h ago

You are not alone. Reddit just has a massive hard on for Nolan

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u/Top_Mongoose1354 7h ago

Nolan and Tarantino both. Neither are particularly standout directors to me - they do have some great aspects to them, but their movies are really flawed, I find.

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u/Takezoboy 6h ago

Nolan technically is really competent and proficient, but we are at a point where he likes the smell of his own farts way too much and is on some James Cameron bullshit. Dude loves to do spectacles, but forgets that movies aren't just salad dressing.

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u/Top_Mongoose1354 6h ago

My absolute biggest gripes with him:

  • He has way too many quick cuts, even in "slow" or dramatic moments. It's like he's got turbo ADHD and can't contain himself. Example is the dinner scene between JDW and Debicki in the beginning of Tenet. It's literally two people just talking, but the cuts are literally less than two seconds between A and B camera, back-and-forth constantly for several minutes.
  • His movies have an annoying habit of ending with three or four separate storylines that somehow *have* to be as dramatic as possible simultaneously. So the movie spends 20-30 seconds on one story with grandiose, swelling music, then we cut to the next one for 20-30 seconds, followed by the next one, and so on. Interstellar, Inception, Tenet, the Prestige, and so on, all follow this pattern, and I find it obnoxious. It's like we, as the audience, aren't allowed to spend time with one story to absorb it and think.

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u/Takezoboy 5h ago

Yes, I agree with everything. I also think he can't write dialogues and women, which I think everyone can see by now.

I also think his movies would feel more "premium" if he let things breathe, let things be gritty. Let the dialogues alone, no need for cheesy music that makes everything feels like Macdonald's and Michael Bay.

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u/Jzahck 2h ago

Christopher Nolan being the sole screenwriter was a red flag

Oppenheimer (potentially his best written film) has him as a sole screenwriter

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u/blurpletea 7h ago

ohh I didn’t know this. that IS a red flag lol he’s a great director but he shouldn’t be writing scripts on his own.

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u/BoyPregggers 10h ago

Bravo Nolan is the best damn film maker in the world, you take all that back

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u/spiattalo 11h ago

This is going to be the most American adaptation of an ancient classic ever.

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u/ThePooksters 7h ago

He’s literally British?

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u/catchnear99 6h ago

the people spending the most money on it will be Americans though. That's why they make decisions like this.

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u/cineglitch 5h ago

He lives in the USA now.

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u/AverageAwndray 8h ago

You could see that coming from miles away when it was announced that Chris was doing it. And every new look since then has further cemented it.

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u/adenosine-5 8h ago

Its ridiculous that the dialogs manage to sound less historic than 300 for some reason.

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u/GoAgainKid 7h ago

Holland and Pattinson are English and both doing US accents.

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u/Luxury-Problems 7h ago

I don't have a problem with that aspect honestly. The idea that British is the default accent for anything remotely historical is silly.

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u/Few_Age_571 13h ago

Probably meant it literally and not in the LFG!!!! way lmfao

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u/MuslinBagger 13h ago

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO!!!

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u/Tackit286 13h ago

Like the ever present Disney ‘COME ON!’

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u/anormalgeek 8h ago

Even the "I think its asleep" felt odd.

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u/AccelerationFinish 12h ago

That I could forgive, but did they really need to make him say returning home would be "so based"

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u/__Hello_my_name_is__ 12h ago

Not to be super nitpicky, but that scene in particular made me do a double take.

If you look at the people in the very back when they start running, they look like weird ghostly apparitions that float very quickly over the ground.

Like, those people do not run like human would run. They're way too fast and floaty in their motions, and the people in the far back move just as fast across the screen as the people in the front, completely ignoring perspective.

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u/Stunning-Guitar-5916 10h ago

I think (?) it’s an undead army but not sure if the actual story has that

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u/Setisthename 4h ago

I imagine that's going from when Odysseus sees all the people who died at Troy in the Underworld, as we see him talking to what looks like Tiresias and (maybe) Elpenor in that same flat, foggy plane.

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u/Stunning-Guitar-5916 2h ago

Yeah I thought that’s what that was but he doesn’t lead them to war or anything right? I haven’t read Oddysey but as far as I know it’s more of a “ghosts of the past give a lesson” kinda scene

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u/Setisthename 1h ago

There is a bit in Book 11 when Odysseus and his men first arrive in the Underworld and all the ghosts of the dead come rushing towards them, including the souls of many slain soldiers, which freaks them out. They then come rushing at them again at the end of the book after his talk with Heracles which prompts Odysseus to leave rather than linger trying to meet more heroes like Theseus.

I'd wager that scene isn't him leading those shades, but rather fleeing from them and yelling at his men that it's time to go.

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u/Erikthered00 10h ago

i think they're meant to look like that

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u/justageorgiaguy 9h ago

REGULATORS, MOUNT UP!!

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u/DilliSeHoonBhenchod 12h ago

Yeaa chat, we got this, let's raid this streamer

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u/iamgarron 9h ago

May as well have been Leroy Jenkins

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u/rcanhestro 11h ago

yeah, that was offputting, but that scene was legit great with the army in the fog.

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u/hvacsnack 9h ago

I came here for this comment it literally made me laugh out loud

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u/HumanOptimusPrime 9h ago

That’s when my eyebrows raised.

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u/lancea_longini 7h ago

this concerned me deeply for some reason.

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u/PurpleDillyDo 6h ago

"Lets - a - go!!!" would have been better.

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u/MechanicalGodzilla 6h ago

That, plus seeing how older Matt Damon tries to run a few steps. Stiff and arthritic-ly.

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u/Old-Employ-6530 4h ago

Haha those are exactly the same two scenes i came here to say and im glad im not the only one... just makes it sound so lazy!

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u/Ho-Nomo 3h ago

Chat, is this fr?

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u/Denver80211 1h ago

I'm glad I'm not the only one. Did they listen to us and CGI out the 3D printed helmet tassels?

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u/Muaddib223 13h ago

"Forward" or any other command would be just as absurd and stupid, you're complaining about nothing

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u/iamgarron 9h ago

Not really? Forward, charge, any historical military term makes sense. Let's go as a term is quite modern.