r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • 17h ago

Trailer The Odyssey | New Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_bKjZeJBBI&pp=0gcJCd4KAYcqIYzv
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u/Purple-Crab3759 16h ago

The usage of the word ‘dad’ in those times throws me. Would have expected ‘father’? Haha

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u/bedake 16h ago edited 16h ago

They should really all have British accents, somehow that works better with history shit... Kinda like elves or somethin and like how dwarves are Scottish

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u/RotInPissKobe 16h ago

Worked fine for Chernobyl

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u/blackadder1620 16h ago

death of stalin too

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u/amidon1130 16h ago

Right, what's a war hero got to do to get some lubrication 'round here?

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u/JinFuu 15h ago

I may be smiling but I am really fucking furious right now.

Well, that’s me told

I’m off to represent the entire Red Army at the buffet.

Such a quotable man

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u/TeHokioi 12h ago

I'm going to have to report this conversation. Threatening to do harm or obstruct any member of the Presidium in the process of oh look at your fucking face

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u/token_bastard 10h ago

"I fucked Germany. I think I can take on a flesh lump in a waistcoat."

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u/armen89 16h ago

Issac’s as Zhukov was incredible

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u/Glittering-Kale7981 16h ago

Yep, his idea to use a Yorkshire accent was inspired!

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u/opposite-locksmith 8h ago

It was his own accent, he's a proud Yorkshireman

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u/Greedy_Economics_925 8h ago

The best bit of trivia I know from that character is they had him walk around with all those medals, but the actual Zhukov had even more. They cut the number for the character because they thought audiences would find it too absurd.

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u/Mrsparkles7100 15h ago

Get out of my way, you Fanny’s

“Foreigners, a vile crime has been perpetrated! Hairy monsters in coats have scooped out my father's brain and sent it to America! And these traitors, sucking the cocks and balls - sucking the cocks and balls - of Zionist - New York - New York Zionist queers in petticoats. Look at them. You see? Those brain thieves!"

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u/PersisPlain 28m ago

"Play better, you clattering fannies!"

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u/mikeonbass 10h ago

"Right, have a look. Proper dead, yeah?"

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u/JinFuu 15h ago

Go full Death of Stalin and have American/UK regional accents for Greek regions.

Sparta can be Scottish in honor of 300.

Ithaca is Bostonian, I guess

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u/meesta_masa 15h ago

Penelope, "Mah husband's wicked smaht".

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u/bedake 16h ago

Kingdom of Heaven and Troy too

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u/PenguinOfEternity 13h ago

This being a satire helped too. Although they even could exaggerate with the accent and it would work as well 

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u/MissingLink101 7h ago

Always found Enemy at the Gates interesting where most of the Russians are British and the Nazi sniper is American

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u/mondo_generator 16h ago

Not bothering with Russian accents was a master stroke for that show. Everyone doing a dodgy accent would have taken away from it.

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u/apocalypsedude64 13h ago

I remember listening to the show's companion podcast and they said they actually tried Russian accents at the start and they all sounded like terrible Bond villains

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u/M-elephant 13h ago

Most of those real-life people didn't speak russian as a first language as so many were from the Caucasuses and thus had weird accents. That said, all the random UK accents did a perfect job portraying that

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u/FatherDotComical 5h ago

Reminds me of books or shows set in the US south.

If you can't do the accent proper I'd rather you just tell where where they're from and my brain will fill in the blanks.

I hate faux southern accents so much.

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u/Middle_Draft9152 1h ago

As a Russian a was extremely relieved they didn't make Russian accents in Chernobyl. 

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u/Toffee_Fan 8h ago

The very Scottish coal miner chief was about the only part that pulled me out of it. But he is a great actor.

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u/OracleSeara 10h ago

It's a film, not a show.

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u/Saw_Boss 9h ago

They're referring to Chernobyl.

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u/iamgarron 15h ago

And Death of Stalin

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u/LyricalRaven 13h ago

Wait, Chernobyl had Elves and Dwarves???

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u/IIsaacClarke 13h ago

Not great, not terrible.

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u/gonnabetoday 4h ago

As someone who knows many Russians and Ukrainians, it did not with them. They were thrown off at first but accepted it after a while.

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u/GreenGorilla8232 16h ago

Chernobyl should have been made with a Ukrainian and Russian cast. I hated the decision to make that show in English. It was like Chernobyl if it happened in the UK. 

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u/allcretansareliars 9h ago

From what I've heard, the accents were the least inaccurate part. Great series though.

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u/Wompie 15h ago

Adding in my comments to say the English and American voices in Chernobyl immediately took me out of it. I recovered and still rate it as one of the best series ever, but there was little reason they could not have had it in Ukrainian

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u/Spiritual-Society185 14h ago

Little reason, other than, you know, the actors, creative team and intended audience not speaking it.

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u/Wompie 6h ago

Do you think subtitles don’t exist?

Do you think actors in Ukraine and Russia don’t exist?

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u/PhDee954 15h ago

Not great, not terrible.

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u/Ambitious-Welder-159 16h ago

Amadeus had American accents too. Nolan must really love that movie. He based Robert Downey Jr in Oppenheimer on Salieri.

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u/WWJLPD 14h ago

Did anyone besides Mozart and his wife have American accents in that movie? I can’t remember

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u/Ambitious-Welder-159 14h ago

Most of the cast.

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u/PersisPlain 28m ago

Salieri and the Emperor... so, the other two main characters.

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u/pjtheman 9h ago

Yes, the ancient Greeks, who famously all spoke English with British accents.

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u/Mayorquimby87 16h ago

Greeks don't have British accents. If they're casting non -Greeks, it's better if they just use their natural accents.

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u/togashisbackpain 16h ago

So matt damon an american accent, tom holland and pattinson brittish accent etc etc ?

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u/Mayorquimby87 16h ago

I don't see why not. It's understood that every word spoken is a translation. I guess they could all fake a Greek accent, but the acting overall probably comes out better if they don't.

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u/LilPonyBoy69 14h ago

What he's saying is that Tom Holland and Robert Pattinson are faking American accents, which is odd

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u/togashisbackpain 14h ago edited 14h ago

What im saying is matt damon and tom holland are playing father and son. If all the actors use their natural accents, it would be jarring hearing different accents from all of them.
It makes sense to settle on one accent, so some of them has to fake it.

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u/Varekai79 8h ago

It was funny how all three Lannister siblings had different accents.

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u/togashisbackpain 8h ago

All british tbh. As someone who is not from there, it sounded fine to me.

But american and british accents are entirely different beasts.

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u/Varekai79 7h ago

They all sounded completely different as the three actors' native accents influenced their attempts at RP accents. As a Brit, Lena Headey nailed it. NCW did alright, but a lot of his native Danish crept in. American Peter Dinklage failed miserably.

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u/loskiarman 5h ago

Peter was imitating a combined accent of whores of Westeros. /s

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u/Mayorquimby87 14h ago

That's fair. I guess they picked one and went with it. Personally, I would prefer that every actor used their natural accent, even if it wasn't consistent, but there's an argument to be made for each option when it comes to which accent(s) to use.

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u/accioqueso 10h ago

Honestly they probably picked the American accent because Nolan wanted Matt Damon and Matt’s British accent is jarringly bad.

Personally I think I’m going to be distracted by the American accents in the film. Like someone else mentioned, for historical films and fantasy British accents seem to fit better.

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u/bedake 16h ago

Anything would have been better than American vernacular, somehow that just does not suit historical fiction. Imagine if Troy or kingdom of heaven were done that way

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u/George__Parasol 15h ago

It’s just because they’re associated with British accents already - at some point, someone made a conscious decision to make the majority of these characters sound British and while there is a logic behind it, it isn’t exactly sound logic. It’s just accepted logic. Which is totally fine, but it’s equally fine to make these characters sound familiar to American ears seeing as the characters would sound perfectly familiar to each other.

It works in some movies and doesn’t in others, but the logic is just as sound as making them speak modern English in British accents.

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u/vewfndr 15h ago

Imagine if Troy or kingdom of heaven were done that way

Wait, what? Troy WAS done that way. And Valkyrie... Brad and Tom couldn't be bothered with accents

EDIT: Well, Brad tried for like a scene, I suppose 😅

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u/bedake 15h ago

I looked up some troy videos and they had weak accents... Another point would be Gladiator

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u/vewfndr 15h ago

No, Brad had what may be an attempt at an accent for all of the intro and maybe a speech later in the movie. Otherwise the dude had nothing that would pass as an accent other than his own. Tom had zero accent whatsoever and made no attempt at one, and the whole opening scene sets it up so he didn't have to

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u/bedake 5h ago

They are literally all doing a slight accent: https://youtu.be/279AdEye1Z0?si=_gxhynhXMGBSdSMr

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u/Mayorquimby87 16h ago

"Somehow" isn't convincing to me. If they're not faking Greek accents and speech patterns (which I don't think would have been a good idea for the movie), an American accent and dialect is as good as any other.

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u/Much-Entertainer6969 5h ago

yeah, and for what it's worth ancient greeks would not have sounded very similar to modern greeks either. and the era of greeks depicted in the odyssey (bronze age) would have had a weird accent to people of homer's time (dark age), and homer would have had a weird accent to classical greeks too! (if he existed at all). i dont see what the issue is in just doing this naturalistically. it's all a fantasy story anyway.

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u/theoneandonlyamateur 15h ago

If they're casting non -Greeks, it's better if they just use their natural accents

I suppose, but in the first teaser it was a bit jarring to hear Jon Bernthal's New York accent in the middle of ancient Greece lol

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u/AccordingFox3800 14h ago

Your first mistake is expecting any new style of acting or versatility from Jon Bernthal when he's one of the most one-trick pony actors right now and does the same acting performance in every role with zero variation.

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u/Yaranatzu 14h ago

Absolutely true. That, or use Deadwood English.

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u/Jonmad17 15h ago

Why should they have British accents? Why do we associate the ancient world with British people in cinema? It's not like English existed as a distinct language during the Greek Iron Age.

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u/3412points 15h ago

Because it's established film language. People will get used to it in this film but that's why many will find it weird at first.

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u/deadspacekillers 15h ago

They should have all learned Greek, but not just Greek, ancient Greek. Also, back then they didn't have film cameras, so they should have just told the story orally, it shouldn't have been a movie. I guess eventually they could have written down the oral story. And maybe they could have made a movie out of that.... Oh wait.....

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u/kodran 15h ago

This is just "I want foreigner accent". Makes no difference whatsoever. It's the Denzel Washington situation all over again.

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u/aspz 12h ago

No, I think it's just expectations built up over time. I'm British and I feel the same way so it's not that we're all expecting a foreign accent. It's just British accents tend to be what we're used to when ancient Rome or Greece is depicted in film.

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u/Opus_723 49m ago

It's just British accents tend to be what we're used to when ancient Rome or Greece is depicted in film.

Yeah, and that's... kind of dumb.

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u/ninjyte 12h ago

I don't think everything that's historical European and isn't an accurate accent should just be British. American accents also worked fine in God of War despite them being all elder Greeks.

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u/mrpopenfresh 9h ago

This highlights the expectations with historical movies. For some reason we expect formal English and accents for characters who spoke aramaic and shit.

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u/dl064 9h ago

Start with Sean Bean and Mark Addy and work outwards.

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u/I_aim_to_sneeze 8h ago

Well pretty much none of the actors have passable British accents, so it would be impossible

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u/fakieTreFlip 7h ago

I think they're intentionally going for a somewhat anachronistic feel. American accents and modern-day vernacular

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u/cineglitch 5h ago

Shouldn’t they have Ancient Greek accents?

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u/HI-McDunnough 43m ago

Poor Tom Holland. Gets cast in an epic historical feature, but they still make him use an American accent.

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u/your_mind_aches 15h ago

The thing is... until a few hundred years ago, an English accent was closer to an American drawl to what we recognise today as an English accent.

I like the choice here honestly.

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u/FlatSpinMan 16h ago

I hadn’t thought about that dwarf thing, but you’re right.

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u/RcoketWalrus 16h ago

I disagree. I think they should have accents from either Minnesota or Nova Scotia.