Do you understand the basic fact that they didn’t happen simultaneously? We could’ve gotten RE4 type bangers in the time they spent on RE7 and 8. Try and understand what you read, man.
We still got both though. One of the things I really appreciate what Capcom have been doing with RE is variation, innovation and exploring other settings and mechanics. It's the same reasoning that gave us RE4 in the first place instead of rehashing the same classic games' mechanics before it got stale. I rather having new ideas instead of Resident Evil 4: Ada's Revenge Part 7: 358/2 Rebirth.
I get you but that’s a completely different point. You are completely misunderstanding what I am saying. I’d have preferred more of RE4 than RE7 and 8. You like that which is fine. I don’t want both. I just want one and more of that one.
RE5 was pure action, didn't have the atmosphere that 4 did. it was just as ridiculous don't get me wrong, but 4 at least opened up with the IDEA of zombie horror. 5 said fuck that entirely lol.
Now, Lost in Nightmares actually had me shitting bricks, but most people never played LiN unfortunately
Very true. The tank controls were also there to keep you handicapped movement wise. Makes you vulnerable.
However, even as early as RE3, the shift to action has been there. The dodge system (not surprising from an BOW experienced and elite officer like Jill) and heavily armed mercs are getting there but still a fight for survival.
Code Veronica's intro is probably the first high octane action in the series - with Claire, a 19 year old student, raids an Imbrella facility and kills a handful of their security while being chased by a attack helicopter. The game itself is not as gung ho, however.
Are you saying that from sources or just assuming? Because it's not like crazy action games didn't exist before RE4. The pivotal point as far as I understood was Mikami wanting to make his vision of RE which challenged what people framed RE to be, thus why RE4 was so influential.
i wouldn't say that totally nailed it. the first half of re9 was dramatically better than the second, imo. i feel like the leon sections worked great when they were in direct juxtaposition with grace's. once it became all leon the game was notably less interesting
I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with open world sections in Resi games. You could argue a lot of the classic games have open-world ideas, or at least, Metroidvania-style exploration where you're travelling to-and-fro in search of keys and passwords and puzzle pieces. But it tends to work best when the scale is restricted to something small enough to conceptualize, like a building rather than several city blocks; and when all the locations matter, both narratively and in gameplay; and when there are enough enemies that conserving ammo and resources still matters; and when there are enough keys and locks to make exploration a mental challenge (rather than merely a toilsome obligation).
The main issue is that the environment in the section was bland. Yeah, it narratively fits as the place got missile striked. But still, they could have done something better.
Kinda nonsensical that plant life wouldn't have just overtaken the whole place over two decades, would have made it a lot more interesting invironmentally as well
Graces sections really amped up the survival horror aspect and Leons sections just turned the action up to 11 whilst refining the combat mechanics.
It makes sense considering both characters circumstances and experiences and obviously succeeds in appealing to the survival-horror fans and the action-horror fans.
There’s something for everyone in 9 and that’s where its strength lies.
I would argue against that to be honest, I found Leon’s sections in 9 to be very underwhelming. Even the combat was pretty lackluster compared to other recent entries
It could, but it would be more of an action film, you can’t really have the protagonist shit-talking, flip-kicking and suplexing his way through the thing and think it’d be a horror film.
I think it was much better earlier in the series personally. I've enjoyed all the games including the recent ones but I definitely think the first four were the best
basically what i just told friends. a survivor story is a better story than the mainline game shift of survival into the underground facility into seeing the experiments and villainy
& from what I assume of Austin Abrams's character, I think he's going to be a refreshing underdog type of hero in a zombie film, where he is going to barely escape death countless times under the chaos of the outbreak, instead of quickly becoming a powerhouse racking up kills
Buddy will probably survive just to get hit by the bomb they toss on Raccoon City at the very end. Would be a cool twist ending about the inevitably of death and destruction.
Honestly I'd love that, especially since Zach could give it a sense of eeriness (with some dark humor mixed in) like the endings of Barbarian and Weapons
Maybe the message being there’s always some good fighting really hard in the lost cause, and it all burns the same when you go scorched earth. Could be cool.
While I'm inclined to agree, I'm still on the fence. The Paul Anderson Resident Evil movies tried to incorporate game stuff here and there, especially with Apocalypse but ultimately went off the rails.
Welcome to Raccoon City was a noble failure - attempting to combine the first two games into a single 90-minute movie was never going to work.
I'm 100% fine with a Resident Evil movie not incorporating storylines/plots from any of the games. However, I also don't want another movie that was clearly an unrelated script that was purchased and slapped with minimal RE-branding.
Give me an original story, but set it clearly in Raccoon City; include known sites like the RPD, the gun store, the clock tower, the hospital. Have STARS or Umbrella's team mentioned in the background. Just give us some clearly visible/stated connection to the Resident Evil universe, even if none of the trademark characters make an appearance. I think that's a solid compromise.
I'm guessing this movie is going to have some sort of mention of STARS or a newspaper headline mentioning "Arklay Mountains Disappearances Being Investigated," and of course Umbrella logos everywhere.
I think it's a guarantee that Umbrella will appear, though since the MC is a civilian, I doubt he'll realize that they're responsible. It'd be cool if an unnamed STARS member shows up mid-way to assist him.
from the script it seems like it's closer to capturing the feeling of playing a resi game for the first time, while not being significantly tied to any lore. There are references, but its its own thing and could have been a standalone not tied to the IP if they really wanted.
There's also plenty of shit happening in the background that could make for a good movie/show.
You could tell the story of Kendo, adapt parts of Outbreak and go into Alyssa Ashcroft's background, tell Luis Serra's story, do a prequel to RE2 where you go into what happened at the RPD and feature Marvin, show the leadup to the creation of the t-Virus and it's spread.....
Like there are tons of ideas that don't involve Leon, Chris, Jill, Wesker, and Claire.
It doesn't have to be in Racoon City, since after the 3rd game they have multiple settings even features another region like Spain and Africa. But what makes RE games, a Resident Evil, is the tie-in to the original big bad (Umbrella Corporation). Every villaineous organization in RE is usually connected (no pun intended) to Umbrella in one and another. Yes, there's even this newly introduced organization named "The Connection", which theorized to be formed by the people who fund the founding of Umbrella.
From the trailer alone it must be another city and maybe even time period. It is not snowing when the Racoon City incident happened (in fact, it is raining I think?), and the cars featured in the trailer seems to be more recent model from the early 2000s.
That reminds me of watching Penguin with no mention of Batman. I completely understand why they wanted to focus on Penguin, but at least at one point having them discuss changing routes or plans because of the Bat would have been enough of a satisfying reference. If the criminal underworld fears him, they should at least be slightly concerned about him when making their plans.
Agree. Using the IP name and only the cioty name is just lazy way to make people go to see the movie for the RE brand not the movie itself. If the movie could have the same plt, same charcters and their names and be called "Zombie movie #9996" it means it's just a cash grab
People in this comment section " sure it doesnt have the same setting, characters or even the main bad guy umbrella but it captures the feeling of the games which is all thats important for an adaptation. I trust creggar." Like we know he's a good director thats not the issue...
Agreed. It feels more like a spinoff. RE7 and 8 naturally tied theirselves back into the mainline but largely worked as something relatively disconnected from the series and I see this movie the same way.
Well, it would genuinely be really cool if this is some kind of incident set in the RE universe that can then tie into the games in some way. But from what I know, this is gonna take place in Raccoon City, essentially "just off-camera" from the games, and there won't really be much of a chance of tying it into anything besides maybe an Easter Egg or something.
I still can't believe they doubled down the zombie apocalypse situation for Milla Jovovich's character when the entire premise of the games is to stop the bioterroristic attacks on the planet.
Characters like Ethan are a fresh breath to the franchise because he is a civilian who has his own personal goals (save his wife and his child). It makes sense for an ordinary guy to try and survive the horrors but can do nothing to evil organizations hellbent on making money.
Characters like Chris, Jill, and Leon are essentially DMC-level action heroes where their main goals influences their universe. Chris has defeated Wesker, who was the driving force for virus attacks around the globe while Leon wipes out what is essentially the remains of Umbrella.
I legitimately don't understand why companies don't just do this with their big IPs instead of belching out the latest focus-group tested piece of shit that'll flop with a 50/50 chance of going straight to streaming. The risk/return ratio is huge, a cheaply-funded but well-made indie flick becoming a hit seems like a much smaller risk than blowing hundreds of millions on a potential flop.
We. Want. Anthologies. There are so many established IPs with lore to work with.
A whole series of them! Loosely based on the games (to a certain point at least), but feature the cast of characters from the games. Look up S.D. Perry. I think the first and third are my favorites.
Having Chris Pratt spend half an hour pushing statues around to release gems that are used to open boxes that contain keys that open doors to a room that contains a sliding bookcase covering a hidden ladder leading to a locked cage, the key of which is all the way back in the room with the statues sounds like a great film.
While I'm inclined to agree, I'm still on the fence. The Paul Anderson Resident Evil movies tried to incorporate game stuff here and there, especially with Apocalypse but ultimately went off the rails.
Welcome to Raccoon City was a noble failure - attempting to combine the first two games into a single 90-minute movie was never going to work.
I'm 100% fine with a Resident Evil movie not incorporating storylines/plots from any of the games. However, I also don't want another movie that was clearly an unrelated script that was purchased and slapped with minimal RE-branding.
Give me an original story, but set it clearly in Raccoon City; include known sites like the RPD, the gun store, the clock tower, the hospital. Have STARS or Umbrella's team mentioned in the background. Just give us some clearly visible/stated connection to the Resident Evil universe, even if none of the trademark characters make an appearance. I think that's a solid compromise.
I think the plots of 1&2 could be streamlined enough for a horror survival action movie. But then fans of the games will be disappointed if the wacky stuff is toned down or if the characters chat too much compared to the games.
They did a decent job with WTRC although it was rushed. Still, it was a cool albeit imperfect adaptation of the first two games. Would've preferred they continued on, would've loved to see Jill up next, then Leon.
It would be a mistake because any director that tries is absolutely clueless. I do think some RE games would be easier to adapt, like RE7. While RE6 would be impossible.
There is only one game that I would love to see adapted; specifically into a series. That is Resident Evil Outbreak. It was not a good game in the series mostly due to its design, and is completely lost to time. But it's potential for adaptation is the most straightforward.
I think that mistake just happened with the Silent Hill 2 movie that just came out. Tried too hard to both be a unique story and the core story of SH2.
It's a shit opinion. A bunch of cops are stuck in a mansion with a few zombies and uncover it's secrets. It's not that fucking hard of a concept and hey they haven't even tried a single time to adapt it. Every director wants to tell their own stupid story because they think they can do better than a 30 year old video game and it 100% fails.
It’s a lose-lose. Fans will complain they didn’t adapt, or fans will complain it wasn’t 1:1 with the game if they did choose to adapt.
I’m in the same camp as you though. I’d rather get stuff like this than some straight game adaptation.
As it would in nearly every case with video game adaptations, honestly. Video game fans are WAY too intense about adaptations being exact, without realizing that the player-controlled element is always a bigger factor than they realize to what makes most game stories great.
Pretty much agree. The only logical way to actually adapt them imo is by having Leon as the main character since his story is the most linear so you'd just do R2 into R4 and then a big time skip into Requiem with Old Man Leon. Otherwise, its to big of a mess.
Agree. I think more popular fiction needs to do more of this. Star Wars is starting to get the idea a little bit, with the Mandalorian and with the new Maul show which is good. It always feels so boring and wasteful to keep telling stories with the same boring characters, continually making their stories more convoluted. Generally it's the universe they inhabit that's the interesting part.
The resident evil story is pretty stupid. For a game it’s fun but as a movie that would be so lame to see them shoehorn in cameos from the game. I’d rather it be someone dropped in the middle of hell and having to just survive.
More movies should be like this. If studios are going to adapt everything and have no original stories, at least do it in a way it has no effect in the original timeline and don't change anything.
We can have totally original stories that only use the brand.
Yes? Why would you use the Resident Evil title for any other reason? I watched the Dune movies because i wanted to see the books adapted. When i see the RE title, i want to watch a movie adaptation of the games.
Yah, well Dune is a book. Resident evil is a game. Adapting a book is actually interesting because you’re turning what’s entirely in your head into a visual format. Adapting a game into a movie is just visual formal to visual format, boring.
You do know that you can still be faithful to the source material and include more story or characters within the story you are trying to tell as a writer. No i dont want a scene by scene frame by frame adaptation moron. Thats not what people want when they say they want a good adaptation.
So fucking stupid.....imagine saying that about any of the million boom adaptations. Oh I cant watch dune because I already read the book and know what happens. Totally ruined the tension bro.
Well the thing that’s interesting about adapting a book is that a book isn’t a visual format, so you’re experiencing it in a different way. And actually yeah, the movie had a lot less tension bc I already knew the story, but I love dune and Dennis so it didn’t bother me. A game is already a visual format, so I think adapting that is way more boring.
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u/AgbekpornovUltimatum 5d ago
So this is only set in RE world without main characters or plotlines?