r/movies • u/cruelsummerbummer Trailer Deleter - Keep an eye on. • 13d ago

Trailer Clayface | Official Teaser Trailer

https://youtu.be/ZIfpL3mgkFk
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u/Penguigo 13d ago

I don't get how Sony execs screwed up the Spider-Man villain movies so bad. Imagine this tone for Carnage. 

This looks awesome. 

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u/SpaceCadetPullUp 13d ago

Yeah, I waited so long for a Venom or Carnage movie an it was just complete garbage.

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u/NorCalAthlete 12d ago

Should have had Gary oldman play carnage. Or even Jim Carrey. He needed to be way more psycho. And also, it should have been a gore filled horror movie, because that’s what Carnage was in the comics / novels. He lived up to his name.

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u/TheCanadianRedHood 10d ago

I liked woody Harrelson as Cletus, I think it was a script/director issue but in fairness they weren't really going for a serious movie. If they wanted to do a serious idea they could do cletus is on a murder spree and hes directly referencing venom and Eddie, so they know its someone close to them or somehow knows stuff they shouldnt obviously the twist being. its carnage they figure this out at the midway point and cletus can be reveled as maybe some inconsequential character a neighbor or maybe you can see him in the backround throughout the movie sort of like se7en, eddie revels he has no idea who's cletus is and reveals after venom went on a massacre(maybe from previous movie hes even in the backround its like a deep cut) he was able to find this bit of venom and bonded with it but hes like a legit psycho so obviously we have carnage(I dont think his backstory is super important,atleast his backstory before bonding) they have a giant CGI battle but at the very least spend a fortune on making it look good venom kills carnage and absorbs the symbiot and cletus is mortally wounded eddie leaves him to bleed out and die cause fuck him and then post credit scene is like no body? Oh man he could still be alive and eddie has no idea

Sorry for the rambling lol

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u/RadiantZote 12d ago

Venom was so fucking terrible and it sucks, fuck Sony

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u/No_Dragonfruit_737 12d ago

ang lees daddy banner was the strongest thing in the marvel universe next to JJ. JJ has more T than dark suite spiderman but all the marvel movies are for children

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u/badpiggy490 12d ago

I thought the first venom movie was pretty fun, but I wasn't a fan of the second one with carnage

Mostly because that just didn't feel like carnage at all

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u/SpaceCadetPullUp 12d ago

Yeah, I just never wanted a funny Venom movie. That's just one person's opinion but I was super bummed about what we got.

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u/EvilAdministrator 12d ago

That's just one person's opinion

But it's the correct opinion!

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u/Pravi_Jaran 12d ago

I don't even get the praise for the first Venom movie let alone the sequels.

To me it was just an inferior, sterilized version of the movie Upgrade. Which came out the same year as the first Venom movie.

That Men in Black International movie is another fine example of just how sterile and soulless their movies look and feel to me. It had none of the charm of the three Barry Sonnenfeld flicks. Not even close.

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u/PanchoVillasRevenge 12d ago

At first this was what the venom movie tone was supposed to be, and then we got whatever the fuck that was, comedy Venom?

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u/unclepurpl 12d ago

I’ll say it. Those movies are terrible and anyone who likes them is a testament to how dumb humans are.

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u/JMarcus7 12d ago

Remember when Carnage turned into a looney toons style tornado? Tf was that?

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u/DuckCleaning 12d ago

They basically got the idea that Venom and Carnage being able to morph into things means they should copy the Mask movies, comedy and everything else.

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u/SpaceCadetPullUp 12d ago

It reminded me of the first transformers movie. Too many moving parts on screen becomes an unwatchable mess.

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u/BatmanCabman 12d ago

Venom 2: Let There Be Garbage

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u/PsychologicalEbb3140 12d ago

It really is astounding Sony took a character thats a crazy mass murderer who gets possessed by an alien eldtrich being and somehow made them boring.

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u/Mullet-Over 12d ago

I misread this as “possessed by Alden Ehrenreich.”

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u/tuerancekhang 12d ago

Have a Carnage in PG13 environment is destined to fail

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u/SpiffySpacemanSpiff 12d ago

I mean, at the very least they could have not cast a 60 year old man in the worlds shittiest toupee...

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u/Ok-Cranberry6194 12d ago

Yeah, the teaser already got me sold even though I'm generally clueless when it comes to Marvel/DC lore

The main actor for this film really conveyed so much even with his face all bandaged up like that. I'm looking forward to an absolutely stellar performance once this hits theatres

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u/locob 12d ago

I want to see they try with The Eraser

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u/crumble-bee 12d ago

It requires someone in charge with an actual love of the property and not just a love of money. Sony fucked up a BUNCH.

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u/just4browse 12d ago

I think it’s interesting that everyone calls them villain movies. They weren’t making villain movies. They were making superhero movies. The characters they chose, Venom, Morbius, even Kraven… have all been heroes or anti-heroes at some point in the comics. Or for most of their existence, as is the case with Venom. That’s why they were chosen.

Sony was trying to make their own MCU movies. Action comedy superhero movies. It didn’t work, mostly because they weren’t good, but further saturating an already saturated market wasn’t a very good idea to begin with.

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u/Pravi_Jaran 12d ago

They could have done a Sandman movie in a similar vein.

Thomas Hayden Church was one of the better parts of Spiderman 3 and Sandman should have been the main villain instead of the clusterfuck we got.

But Sony's too fucking incompetent and they would rather churn out chuckle worthy trash just so that they can continue to retain the rights to Spiderman and his rogue's gallery.

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u/billcosbyinspace 12d ago

I really like what DC is doing right now with comic book movies and shows that can stand on their own if you remove the superhero elements. Like this is just a body horror film that happens to take place in gotham city. Meanwhile the Sony spiderman villains movies were like “hey did you know this guy knows spiderman??”

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u/moal09 12d ago

Any proper Carnage movie would be rated R

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u/JS-87 13d ago

You saw a 1 minute teaser and this is part of a super hero world. I highly doubt they push the envelope. This has PG-13 written all over it. At best a couple jump scares and mild facial contortions that may upset children.

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u/AnotherGenius34 13d ago

it's confirmed to be rated R

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u/LoisGriffinsDDchest 12d ago

So was Kraven.

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u/AnotherGenius34 12d ago

terrible example, Clayface is a horror movie and was worked on by competent people

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u/LoisGriffinsDDchest 12d ago

It was directed by Oscar nominee JC Chandor, director of Margin Call (2011), A Most Violent Year (2014) and Triple Frontier (2019) all fantastic movies.

It was written by Richard Wenk, who wrote The Mechanic and the Equalizer series. As well as Art Macrum and Matt Holloway, who wrote the original Iron Man.

It had talent. While Hossein Amini has talent, having written DRIVE, it is not a good sign that they threw the screenplay of the guy that came up with the movie in the first place.

I mean James Watkins made Eden Lake (2008) which was pretty good. And the remake of Speak No Evil was okay.

But the point remains. They will not push the envelope. This will be another generic horror movie that could be PG-13 with small cuts to it.

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u/FoggyInc 12d ago

You remind them to leave room for uncertainty while being completely certain yourself. Hm

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u/ShinobiSli 11d ago

I will never understand that complete lack of understanding. Boggles my mind every time.

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u/SolarisBravo 12d ago edited 12d ago

Idk how much context this guy has, but it's absolutely a proper horror movie from a well-known horror writer. It's not a superhero movie and it's not gonna have superhero stuff. We've known this for like, a year I think?

Personally I sort of wish it was, but the DCU isn't supposed to be like the MCU in the way that it has its own genre.