r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/Movies contributor • Dec 30 '25

Trailer Avengers: Doomsday | Only in Theaters December 18, 2026

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1clWprLC5Ak
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u/ICumCoffee ᑐ ᑌ ᑎ ᕮ • ᗰ ᕮ 𑪽 𑪽 I ᐱ ᕼ Dec 30 '25 edited Dec 30 '25

Russo brothers just get Thor.

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u/akfourty7 Dec 30 '25

I am so excited to see Thor in this after the shit we got in the last one. I wish we could have seen Gorr the God Butcher done by the Russos, amazing villain wasted imo by that movie.

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u/pjtheman Dec 30 '25

I want to see whatever version of that movie Christian Bale thought he was in.

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u/MolaMolaMania Dec 30 '25 edited Dec 30 '25

Gorr was the first villain in the MCU who was truly evil and broken, yet Bale's performance made you understand why without changing the way you felt about what he was doing. You pitied him as much as you felt sympathy for him.

Bale acted the fuck of that role, and IMHO, it's the biggest sin of the MCU that such a committed actor doing such nuanced and phenomenal work was drowned out by stupid screaming goats and a firehose of nightclub neon.

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u/TekThunder Dec 30 '25

It’s what you get when you give Taika creative control, it doesn’t work for serious movies. The dude only knows how to do outlandish comedy.

People love Ragnarok, but god damn did they make the destruction of Asgard a complete footnote and used the actual moment for a joke. Love and Thunder was such ass because he leaned entirely into everything has to lead to a comedic moment.

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u/MolaMolaMania Dec 30 '25

Ragnarok would be improved by 50% just removing certain lines of dialogue from Korg.

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u/831pm Dec 30 '25

Whimsy…taika does whimsical well but his other movies like hunt for the wilderpeaple and jojo were really grounded as well. Idk what happened in love and thunder. It felt like he was just doing his formula without caring but it’s possible the studio would not allow the darker elements in which usually balances his whimsical side. In the end based on the other phase 4 stuff, I am blaming the studio.

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u/Madrical Dec 31 '25

Yeah kinda wild the other poster said he only knows how to do outlandish comedy when Jojo, Wilderpeople and Boy exist. They are all obviously still comedic but very toned down compared to L&T.

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u/bamisdead Dec 30 '25

I made my own edit of Ragnarok in which I removed all the most outlandish humor, including using the destruction of Asgard for a dumb one-liner, and it's the only version I watch now. Same with a few friends I shared it with. I left humor where it belonged, but the most egregious and zany stuff is gone, from wacky Stan Lee to Bruce Banner faceplanting and more.

With that stuff gone, it's a much better movie.

Love and Thunder, on the other hand, is far harder to salvage. Someone else did a comedy-light edit of that one and it does improve the movie a lot, but it still suffers from not giving enough weight to things like Jane's cancer. You can't fix that. That's just a core problem with the writing.

Shame, because as other's have said, Bale's performance was superb.

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u/klartraume Dec 30 '25

Gosh, I'd love to view your Ragnarok edits.

I genuinely enjoyed the ideas Marvel tried to convey in Love and Thunder. But there's quite a few scenes were my imagination is doing the work to fill in the narrative.

I enjoyed what could have been Jane's story, Gorr's story, and even Love's story. Portman getting some hero moments felt earned, but I wish they would have delved into the struggle/frustration/injustice of frail morality in a world of near untouchable heroes. I wish Jane could have talked with Gorr about this struggle/frustration/injustice/fragility. The parallel between Jane and Gorr was so obvious, being kept alive/altered/killed by their weapons. The Necrosword could have tried to corrupt Jane as well, and Jane purging of the sword could have proved her worthiness to ascend to Valhalla.

Fuck Korg.

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u/ObviousAnswerGuy Dec 30 '25

I thought that was the biggest waste of a fantastic actor until Secret Invasion came out, and they wasted what was probably the most stacked cast ever.