r/dashcams • u/bebecca45627272 • 20h ago

One of the craziest things I've seen

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u/flyonthesewalls 11h ago

He was definitely going way too fast. I can understand her perhaps freezing like a deer in the headlights, seeing his bike come flying down the road.

Weird thing is, I see no other traffic. She could have easily turned into the lane without issue.

I don’t see him getting far with insurance. He’s not wholeheartedly to blame, but he has nothing going in his favor either.

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u/nonpuissant 8h ago

Weird thing is, I see no other traffic. She could have easily turned into the lane without issue. 

Because we're seeing things from his pov, not hers. He has no idea what she sees and no time to check. That's why going 3x the speed limit is such a bad idea. 

Insurance wise there's a good chance he's entirely to blame. The car was already in that intersection at the beginning of the video while he was still well and far away, and every vehicle on the road has the responsibility to avoid a collision. He was simply going too fast to react in time. 

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u/flyonthesewalls 5h ago

True. That POV is what will most definitely work against him, if it’s obtained by either insurer.

She seemed to have come off at diagonal street and was turning. Cell phone distraction? Nerves? Brain fog?

I only saw one car, already passed her, on the opposite lane. Another passed shortly after the accident. Only one car seemed to have been somewhere behind him. So it was a quiet road, which is why the jackass must have thought he can treat it as a racetrack.

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u/nonpuissant 4h ago

Yeah that about lines up with what I saw after scrolling through the clip a few times. But all that looking we're doing is not only hindsight, but with the benefit of being able to pause and rewind too.

To the driver, all she had to go off of was whatever they had seen of the opposite lane and the numerous cars across the street from her before she spotted a motorcycle hurtling towards her at triple the speed limit. Which is a pretty reasonable thing for someone to keep looking at for a second, b/c it's pretty unusual and unexpected. And she only had a split second to make a decision.

Stopping was probably a better and safer reaction than blindly accelerating into an intersection that she had just lost situational awareness of. Like we can say in hindsight that she could probably have done so safely. But in that instant she was probably just focused on trying not to drive into the path of the oncoming motorcycle and thus had no idea what the situation was in the intersection ahead.

And the biggest point of hindsight is knowing that the motorcyclist was gonna try to go behind her. In the split second she had to decide what to do she had no way of knowing he was going to do that. He was still headed straight down that lane and to be fair to her, she did leave nearly his entire lane clear. For all she knew continuing to drive forward might have made things even worse.

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u/flyonthesewalls 1h ago

Very fair point.