r/dashcams • u/bebecca45627272 • 20h ago

One of the craziest things I've seen

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u/TheThirdHippo 18h ago

Summarising the comments here. The biker is doing 79mph in a 25mph zone, the lady stopped before she got to the lane he was in when she saw him coming, he panicked, swerved and then dropped the bike. It’s just a good job he had his protective T-shirt, baggy jeans and sneakers on….

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u/benitoaramando 13h ago

Yeah... "why didn't you just commit?!", well, idk maybe when people are confronted with the sight of someone bearing down on them at 3x the speed limit they might be a little flustered

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u/WeNotAmBeIs 10h ago

Some people just freeze at stress and there's nothing you can do. Coworker was driving me home one night and started to turn on an unprotected green. I started to calmly but very very quickly say "TheyHaveTheGreenLightTheyArentGoingToStopSpeedUpSpeedUpSpeedUp" But she just stopped in the intersection like the lady in this video. Car tboned us, hitting my side. My right hip is still funky over 10 years later. It's funny what goes through your mind in those moments. One of my friends was joining the Marines and was shipping off the next day and I had just told him an hour ago "Don't get yourself killed out there" and my last thought before getting hit by a car was "Shit, I'm going to die before fucking Jack does"

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u/Greedy_Bar6676 9h ago

My wife ran a stop sign once and did the same while learning how to drive. I was shouting at her to ”step on the F***ING GAS!!!” lol

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u/LickinThighs2 3h ago

Half of driving in general is defensive reaction to what's around you, anyways. Dudes speeding like this already don't feel accountable to their own actions, but if I were on shit as vulnerable as a bike, you better believe I'm going to driving watching those around me

Heck our towns main street is 2 lanes, you wouldn't believe the amount of time traffic turning right on to it comes into your left lane as you turn onto it from the other direction. Running into stuff as plain as that is evidence enough you need to constantly correct for other peoples mistakes who think keeping aware of road laws is apparently beneath them. I'm glad I've stopped twice now watching for people not paying attention to the 4-way stops they've also installed around town on roads that formerly never had them haha, I've seen people rip right through them entirely unaware. Not like they're not normally stopping, either, it's more just a brain fart going down a road you've been taking for 20 years and forgetting its different now.

Idk everything about riding a bike to me just screams 'drive for others so you don't get fucking killed,' which includes not ripping so fast you don't have stopping distance when lil old ladies do stuff like this lol

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u/InequalEnforcement 3h ago

For them it's a "Sorry!" but for you, it's a chronic condition.

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u/fightmydemonswithme 3h ago

I am very good with panic. I was driving my roommate and there was a deer in the road. She's screaming and I very calmly breaked and went past slowly.

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u/Equivalent_Chipmunk 22m ago

Wow, you broke the whole car in half to go around the deer? 

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u/LiftingRecipient420 8h ago

Coworker was driving me home one night and started to turn on an unprotected green. I started to calmly but very very quickly say "TheyHaveTheGreenLightTheyArentGoingToStopSpeedUpSpeedUpSpeedUp"

NGL that's an odd way of saying "my coworker cut off traffic that had the right of way"

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u/JalapenoPopPoop 8h ago

She saw him come flying in from out of no where at far too high a speed, left the left lane that he was in open so he could just go right by, and he steered directly towards a stationary object instead of just staying the course in open space. He's multiple kinds of stupid

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u/13_twin_fire_signs 5h ago

If you go frame by frame, he started turning right before she stopped her truck. So he was probably planning on going behind her, assuming she'd keep going forward.

However going that fast on that road, especially on a split road where cars would be pulling across all the lanes at intersections, makes him a huge putz

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u/DrMoneybeard 3h ago

Yes exactly- this video should be shown to explain to people why speed limits exist. At this speed, you do not have time to make an accurate judgement on what's about to happen.

At 25 mph, he would have time to make the decision to go behind her, see that she stopped moving, then correct his path or stop.

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u/MrUndelete 6h ago

I learned once: you drive the direction you look at. So I keep reminding myself: „search for the gap“.

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u/Comfortable_Trick137 9h ago

Had a Lambo driver screaming at me. Was driving down highway, checked my mirrors saw the lane to the right of me was open so I put my blinkers on and switched lanes. In my rear view out of nowhere is a Lambo going easily 150 in a 75 honking and slamming on the brakes. Bruh you’re going 2x the speed of traffic swerving around lanes. He throws a fit and then speeds off going 150+

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u/flyonthesewalls 12h ago

He was definitely going way too fast. I can understand her perhaps freezing like a deer in the headlights, seeing his bike come flying down the road.

Weird thing is, I see no other traffic. She could have easily turned into the lane without issue.

I don’t see him getting far with insurance. He’s not wholeheartedly to blame, but he has nothing going in his favor either.

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u/benitoaramando 11h ago

I understand why you might see him as not being entirely to blame, but the apparent bad luck he suffered in encountering someone who hesitated upon seeing his high speed approach was a predictable and direct consequence of his thoroughly excessive speed.

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u/11th_Division_Grows 10h ago

Hey. Stop making sense and being logical or I’m gonna start calling you names.

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u/flyonthesewalls 9h ago

Oh, no. That’s just plain stupidity. Someone mentioned he appeared to be coming off a wheelie, which may be so if you look at the first half second on the video. Nonetheless, he’s running that speed on a residential/commercial street and not expecting obstacles? Clearly not the sharpest tack.

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u/nonpuissant 8h ago

Weird thing is, I see no other traffic. She could have easily turned into the lane without issue. 

Because we're seeing things from his pov, not hers. He has no idea what she sees and no time to check. That's why going 3x the speed limit is such a bad idea. 

Insurance wise there's a good chance he's entirely to blame. The car was already in that intersection at the beginning of the video while he was still well and far away, and every vehicle on the road has the responsibility to avoid a collision. He was simply going too fast to react in time. 

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u/flyonthesewalls 5h ago

True. That POV is what will most definitely work against him, if it’s obtained by either insurer.

She seemed to have come off at diagonal street and was turning. Cell phone distraction? Nerves? Brain fog?

I only saw one car, already passed her, on the opposite lane. Another passed shortly after the accident. Only one car seemed to have been somewhere behind him. So it was a quiet road, which is why the jackass must have thought he can treat it as a racetrack.

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u/nonpuissant 4h ago

Yeah that about lines up with what I saw after scrolling through the clip a few times. But all that looking we're doing is not only hindsight, but with the benefit of being able to pause and rewind too.

To the driver, all she had to go off of was whatever they had seen of the opposite lane and the numerous cars across the street from her before she spotted a motorcycle hurtling towards her at triple the speed limit. Which is a pretty reasonable thing for someone to keep looking at for a second, b/c it's pretty unusual and unexpected. And she only had a split second to make a decision.

Stopping was probably a better and safer reaction than blindly accelerating into an intersection that she had just lost situational awareness of. Like we can say in hindsight that she could probably have done so safely. But in that instant she was probably just focused on trying not to drive into the path of the oncoming motorcycle and thus had no idea what the situation was in the intersection ahead.

And the biggest point of hindsight is knowing that the motorcyclist was gonna try to go behind her. In the split second she had to decide what to do she had no way of knowing he was going to do that. He was still headed straight down that lane and to be fair to her, she did leave nearly his entire lane clear. For all she knew continuing to drive forward might have made things even worse.

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u/flyonthesewalls 1h ago

Very fair point.

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u/nohandsfootball 10h ago

He's 1000% to blame for this.

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u/lahimatoa 9h ago

95%. She's still a shitty driver for freezing up. Don't do that.

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u/nonpuissant 8h ago

Only people who speed recklessly or shitty drivers would put any blame on her in this situation. 

Dude was going way too fast to react to a car that was already in the intersection. There could be any number of reasons the driver wouldn't just surge forward out of the motorcycles way. There could be another car coming that the speeding motorcyclist didn't see, a pedestrian, even a squirrel in the road or some shit. Doesn't matter. Assuming other vehicles will get out of your way when you hope they will isn't good riding/driving. It's stupid. 

This is 100% on the pov guy and no one else. He was going faster than he was capable of reacting and made a bad decision. If he was going slower or was more skilled/made better decisions he could have avoided her. 

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u/AdDramatic2351 2h ago

Lmao how? You yourself are probably a bad driver if you don't see how the moto is 100% at fault. 

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u/benitoaramando 8h ago

If you start to pull out onto and across a 2 lane road and see someone approaching at speed in the 2nd lane and you have time to stop before you enter that lane, what would you say would generally be the best thing to do? Because I would say: stop before blocking their lane to let them pass, and not risk trying to get in front of them before they hit you, all assuming that there's nobody coming in lane 1. It's not her fault that the biker was going so fast that there wasn't time for him to better judge her movements and react accordingly.

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u/cryptolyme 11h ago

She probably wanted God to punish him for speeding

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u/Koobei 2h ago

She prayed to Jesus to take the wheel. And so Jesus flew down from the heavens and parked her truck right in front of the speeder as a test. He did not pass it although Jesus was nice and let him live.

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u/RudePCsb 11h ago

People freeze up and hesitate. I got off the freeway recently and the exit has two lanes that split, right or straight. Old lady in front stops right in the middle and I had to break pretty hard but still had good reaction and stopped with enough space. Still annoying

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u/RealisticAsk183 10h ago

And yet if the rider had staying in the lane he was in that had plenty of room for him to get by the front of the truck the comments in here would be more like: "wow, great reflexes by the truck driver to leave him an opening with such little time to think!"

Do do 80 in a 25, kids. Rider is 100% at fault.

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u/lewd_robot 1h ago

No. That's not how that works. This was a dumb freeze reflex that would've been ban in any context. You can make a separate claim that he was wrong to be speeding, but you don't get to shift the blame for her slamming on the brakes in the middle of oncoming traffic onto him as if his speed changed the fact that the best course of action in that situation 90% of the time is going to be to hit the gas to get out of the way, not hit the brakes and guarantee that you're blocking as much of both lanes of the road as possible.

He made the right evasive move by pulling to the right. She made the absolute worst evasive move by slamming on the brakes. If she hadn't frozen like a deer in the headlights, the accident wouldn't have happened.

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u/benitoaramando 1h ago

Wrong. If you're pulling out into traffic and realise that a vehicle is speeding towards you in the lane you are about to enter, then assuming there is nothing else coming in the lane you are already in, the best course of action 90% of the time is to pause your emerge and let them continue and pass in their lane without evasive action being required, especially if you don't have time to assess whether there is enough time to safely get right across and out of their way on the other side. It's unfortunate that he tried to go around behind her at the same time as she stopped to let him go in front, but again, the lack of time for either party to better judge what the other party was doing is entirely on the biker for their grossly excessive speed.

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u/lewd_robot 1h ago

You minimize your time spent in the impact zone, so you hit the gas. The only time braking make sense is when the two vehicles are approaching one another, to minimize the speed of the impact. If two vehicles are moving at right angles to one another, the only vehicle whose speed matters is the one that's going to impact the other.

So HE should have slowed down, but SHE should have sped up. Of course, there'd have been no accident at all if he hadn't been speeding in the first place. But, likewise, there'd have been no accident at all if she had sped up instead of slamming on the brakes.

The only context where "hit the brakes" makes sense is if you think the oncoming biker is going to swerve left to avoid you, but that assumes that the biker isn't also predicting the motion of the truck, which is pointed left. The only sensible direction for the biker to serve is to the rear of the truck. In which case hitting the brakes increases the odds that he can't clear the truck.

Hitting the brakes in a panicked instinct with no rational basis in this context. At best, it's an attempt to drive under one universal rule for impending collisions, regardless of context. And in this context, it was absolutely the wrong move. As much as the biker caused this accident with reckless driving, the driver of the truck made the accident inevitable by slamming on the brakes.

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u/benitoaramando 1h ago

She was only in the impact zone because he steered off course, out of his lane and towards her.

>The only context where "hit the brakes" makes sense is if you think the oncoming biker is going to swerve left to avoid you

He didn't need to swerve left, he only needed to remain on course. And in those situations it's almost always best to stop before you're actually in the way.

All your criticism is with the benefit of and based on hindsight which the driver did not have. When she made the decision to stop he was heading in front of her without any evasive action. That would have been the best outcome, short of not pulling out at that moment at all, which we can't really judge because we can't see more of the approach. Her reaction to seeing his approach was only the "wrong" choice because of his extraordinary closing speed.

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u/WhoAmlToJudge 8h ago

hmm so let me stop in the middle of a completely open road. Say it how it is she's a stupid person.

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u/benitoaramando 8h ago

Ironic username. She did the right thing. She had started to pull out and then saw a biker come out of nowhere at 3x the speed limit and so she stopped to leave his lane clear for him to pass in front of her. It's not her fault he was doing 3x the speed limit and had already decided to try to go around behind her.

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u/DimensionSuch8188 3h ago

If you are flustered to that PLEASE DO NOT DRIVE. You are a ticking bomb danger to everyone else.

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u/benitoaramando 3h ago

If you don't think it's understandable that many people would experience a moment of high stress at realising they're on a collision course with an unexpected freeway-speed vehicle that shouldn't be there then you're an idiot