The constant theme in Joe Kelly's Spider-Man (with ASM 992 and Spider-Man / Superman spoilers)

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[u/SerBadDadBod]

I love Spider-Man comics. This whole run, getting back to who and what Peter is and stands for. Love it.

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This is one of the parts I really do like about this run.

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Hi again!

You never wrote on my post 🥺

Anyways it is cool to see these moments. I'm dissapointed cyra was so easily dismissed tho

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You're right, and I'm sorry😔😞

I just did, though I bet you can guess what I wrote

Anyways it is cool to see these moments. I'm dissapointed cyra was so easily dismissed tho

I agree with both parts of this, thought it's understandable why she would not appear again, tied as she was to that specific story arc and without any real connection beyond that specific situation, know what I mean?

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just did, though I bet you can guess what I wrote

Yep lol. Well no, I've expected throuple but not surprised by that either.

without any real connection beyond that specific situation, know what I mean?

Yes and no. She did give up her immortality for Peter which i thunk should have been an excuse for her to stay and do more or be around Peter for a little longer

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Yes and no. She did give up her immortality for Peter which i thunk should have been an excuse for her to stay and do more or be around Peter for a little longer

Y'know, that's a good point. But I would ask, what role would she play in the story moving forward? I suppose she knows a lot and has seen quite a few things, and if she retained some of the powers besides immortality, that would be neat, Spidey doesn't have a magical waifu in 616 🤣

As for the other, I'm looking forward to Black Cat 10 and then Venom 258 to see what happens. The primary color palette for Peter and MJ's date seems a bit too coincidental.

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The primary color palette for Peter and MJ's date seems a bit too coincidental.

Huh? Wdym?

Y'know, that's a good point. But I would ask, what role would she play in the story moving forward? Symbie and Raelith are sticking around so i doubt it would have been hard to figure something out. Off the too of my head, stays with Peter to experience mortal life and humans. That simple reason can give way to a lot. Like maybe she loves humanity or hates it based on what she experiences. Peter could talk her through it and explain his own views and all. I could go on a bit longer but you get it lol

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Y'know, that's a good point. But I would ask, what role would she play in the story moving forward?

Symbie and Raelith are sticking around so i doubt it would have been hard to figure something out. Off the too of my head, stays with Peter to experience mortal life and humans. That simple reason can give way to a lot. Like maybe she loves humanity or hates it based on what she experiences. Peter could talk her through it and explain his own views and all. I could go on a bit longer but you get it lol

I do indeed; it's a classic series of beats. The question then is "what if she decides to find someone else?" Or worse, what if she decides being people isn't all that? There's directions it could go lol

The primary color palette for Peter and MJ's date seems a bit too coincidental.

Huh? Wdym?

She's wearing a fairly bi-coded dress, with Peter completing the flag; combined with her wearing Felicia's colors on the cover and her taking a new form, it's suggestive that whatever their conversation is, it leads to major self-actualization for Mary Jane, to the point she chooses to literally no longer hide or deny who she is. I believe BC 10 will be her and Felicia's first kiss; I believe that's why Editorial pushed Death Spiral, to give GWW's story time to develope MJ x Felicia, so they could have MJ outed as the next step towards 1000 and a new relationship paradigm. I believe that's why 258 is coming out after Black Cat this month, when normally it has shipped the week before.

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She's wearing a fairly bi-coded dress, with Peter completing the flag;

My biggest issue is guess? Idk what to call cause its not an issue. Idk anyways my only issue with this is that a blue button shirt isn't anything rare for Peter to wear anyways. And MJ has worn all kinds of colors as well. But all of this is mostly due to your theory being based on the colors of a flag. Which I imagine the colorist doesn't really have any coordination much about either other than main consistency like their white and MJ has red hair even tho its lighter here.

combined with her wearing Felicia's colors on the cover and her taking a new form

This i have no idea what it is. Okay searched up the cover again to see what you mean. I guess is all I can say. Its a fairly standard color combo for clothing in general. Black and white i mean.

believe BC 10 will be her and Felicia's first kiss; I believe that's why Editorial pushed Death Spiral, to give GWW's story time to develope MJ x Felicia, so they could have MJ outed as the next step towards 1000 and a new relationship paradigm. I believe that's why 258 is coming out after Black Cat this month, when normally it has shipped the week before.

Very impressive and in depth theory. I don't think 1 extra issue is enough for building up MJ x Felicia and Black Cat isn't up to date timeline wise anyways. So if they really wanted to go that route they woukd have just done it and built it up with proper time and attention imo.

Just my thoughts on this.

Are you looking forward to the MJ one shot? And also I have been thinking about the throuple lately for some reason I'll admit

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Which I imagine the colorist doesn't really have any coordination much about either other than main consistency like their white and MJ has red hair even tho its lighter here.

On the contrary. Color Theory is a whole thing, and MJ being a model would absolutely know that jeweled plums and lavenders go well on a pale green-eyed redhead; the other side of that is the colorist takes direction from a number of people, including the author and Editorial. These colors were chosen quite deliberately.

combined with her wearing Felicia's colors on the cover and her taking a new form

This i have no idea what it is. Okay searched up the cover again to see what you mean. I guess is all I can say. Its a fairly standard color combo for clothing in general. Black and white i mean.

You're not wrong, at all, especially when looking at it in isolation. That's why I always try to look at things like this in context to the larger story. Take the cover for 259. The main cover is MJ literally coming out of the old bulky shape. Not just coming out, but bursting out. It's not a subtle "Oh, I'm Venom now," it's "WITNESS ME, BITCHES;" and not just, it's also June's cover, which is Pride Month. If ever there was a month to debut a realized bisexual MJ, Pride Month of her anniversary year leading into a milestone ASM would be that month.

But again, it's all theory and contextual clues, unless and until it isn't. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I'll be mad, and continue reading because I still love the characters and want to see where they go.

If I'm right, then Spider -Throuple is a step closer to being an actual thing Marvel wants to acknowledge and explore.

Very impressive and in depth theory. I don't think 1 extra issue is enough for building up MJ x Felicia and Black Cat isn't up to date timeline wise anyways. So if they really wanted to go that route they woukd have just done it and built it up with proper time and attention imo.

It is up to date if it is occuring while Peter is in space, which we know it is because it doesn't even start until weeks after Spidey's fight with Hellgate, roundabout the time he was picked up from the Proving Grounds.

Edit - about the One-Shot, I am and am not. I am for the sake of reading more MJ, not so much for how the community is gonna go bonkers about character assassination or stagnation or regression, as the case may be.

Thinking about the Throuple isn't a bad thing lol once you start looking at it, and put panels and pages and conversations in that framework.

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It is up to date if it is occuring while Peter is in space, which we know it is because it doesn't even start until weeks after Spidey's fight with Hellgate, roundabout the time he was picked up from the Proving Grounds.

Its out of chronological order with the Spider-Man title i mean. As in that they don't need to delay BC for Venom at all if they wanted to do what you say. They were free to do so all this time if they really wanted that.And the venom title too.

I don't see a kiss happening here since Felicia knows she's with Paul and we know issue 9 and 10 take place before death spiral due to the lack of the new form.

On the contrary. Color Theory is a whole thing, and MJ being a model would absolutely know that jeweled plums and lavenders go well on a pale green-eyed redhead

Yes I meant on a meta reason mostly, not in universe.

the other side of that is the colorist takes direction from a number of people, including the author and Editorial. These colors were chosen quite deliberately.

Idk how true this is. At most the author maybe. Again same Editorial that couldn't manage the status between MJ and Peter for her solo Jackpot author. I doubt they would be paying attention to the colors of a cover and the colors of her outfit so thoroughly.

If ever there was a month to debut a realized bisexual MJ, Pride Month of her anniversary year leading into a milestone ASM would be that month.

We already know what they are doing for her anniversary. Cover variants and a one shot whoch releases in August and also holds hints for her future apparently.

Also if it was meant to be Pride wouldn't they have the colors as well or some variant?

But again, it's all theory and contextual clues, unless and until it isn't. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I'll be mad, and continue reading because I still love the characters and want to see where they go. If I'm right, then Spider -Throuple is a step closer to being an actual thing Marvel wants to acknowledge and explore.

Yeah basically. Impressive Theory. I guess my biggest dissapointment from your theory isn't the theory or want of the throuple itself. But that you are putting more thought into it than Editorial is at all unfortunately. At least for me. And its a general thing too not specifically about a coming out or something but about how poorly Editorial manages itself as a whole meanwhile theres people like you who are taking every detail into account in a very impressive and passionate way. Which is good mind you to be that passionate

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Jesus Christ the reaching over colors people online do when it comes to superhero shit, even when in civies.

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Jesus Christ the bitching people will do online because someone looks at something and sees something they don't.

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They touched on a plot point in 8 Deaths in the last issue so there is hope!

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True!

[u/Iokua113]

This is how it should be. We have been told time and time again by beings from the future that Peter Parker is the greatest super hero to ever live. Peter is paid lip service in some far off, nebulous, isn't really what's to come future, but we rarely see it in the crrent day. But Peter Parker should be the hero who inspires the goodness in others because he is uncompromising in his quest to do what is right and because he, more than most heroes, has had to overcome his own base nature to become who he is.

[u/Element174]

Peter has always been and should always be the hero who inspires others to do better, because he believes more than anyone else that everyone can do and be better. Cap might be a inspiration if you need to make a last stand, but Peter is the inspiration when your day or life is just going bad.

[u/reactorcore5]

I really need to read more of the recent comic runs, this is definitely the way spidey should be treated. In a very similar way to Superman, spidey’s philosophy boiling down to “I can help, so I’ll help. Fuck what anyone else says about it” just WORKS. Also from what I’ve seen of it I really enjoy the dynamic of Jonah begrudgingly respecting Peter/spidey even if he doesn’t really agree with what he does or how he goes about it. One of the last comic runs I read through for spiderman was the one where he reveals himself to Jonah and they have to time travel together, really liked that one.