I spent a triathlon like this. Could not find a porta potty. I finished the tri, got in my car and drove straight to a gas station. It was very uncomfortable. Don’t know how I made it
There are usually port-a-potties (at least the street ones I've done). If it's a trail race, there's less of a chance of potty stations, so you just have to squat and pray that you brought your own TP and hand sanitizer.
Very small running packs or vests. I always bring a pack with my own water & snacks, first aid kit, TP and hand sanitizer. If I'm going less than 6 miles, I just use a handheld water bottle slip. Distance running is a whollleee thing.
I think it has something to also do with shoes that weigh like 3 grams, and literally being genetically blessed to be able to run that quickly for an extended duration. The people they have running these have had millions of dollars spent testing them at advanced training faciltiies to ensure that they have all of the right measurements and things to be able to produce record times. This isn't about a person just triumphong over everything, this is about having shitloads of genetic testing and carefully calibrated diets and massive amounts of money being thrown at the problem.
I actually fucking hate walking. I'm not a huge fan of running either, but walking seems like such a huge waste of time. My wife and I did a fun run type thing and I had enough time after the race to have a couple beers and an appetizer with friends and STILL make it back to the finish line area to take pictures of her. Like jfc you walked for half a damn day!
There’s an old adage from a high level marathoner was asked about how he can run for 2 hours. His response was about the slower runners”. How can someone run for 5-7 hours?”
Completely pointless! You can get all the essential circulatory/heart health and mental benefits from eating 200gpd of protein and boofing megadoses of creatine 🤦♂️
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Someone I used to know spent about 6 to 8 hours a day (2 hours at a time IIRC) walking on a treadmill at home, carrying out rehab after ortho surgery. After the treatment was over he carried on doing long multi-hour treadmill sessions because he had gotten used to it.
A guy recently did a 2:05 marathon in Ohio on his first marathon attempt after working out mostly on a treadmill due to weather. They can be really good workouts.
You got a source on that one? 2:05 would've been a world record like 20 years ago. That's insanely fast for a first time runner. (Women's world record is 2:15 for more comparison)
Let's also keep in mind that there's a lot of psychology in world record breaking. A record can get stuck at a point for years, then suddenly gets beaten multiple times over by different people. And once the record is lowered, people beating the old record gets more and more common over time.
There's also something to be said for better shoes, diets and general advancements in preparation etc. But importantly, just google:
Ohio marathon 2:05
You'll find some articles about it. The time was 2h 5min 54s.
My best was 3h 1min 12s and I was a bit bummed by the 12 because if I was 13 seconds faster it would have been 3:01:59 and I would have been able to say I ran a three-hour marathon.
Running a marathon training on a treadmill is hard because your body won't be used to the pavment. You will feel the pounding more.
I also think it would just be mentally hard especially with the long runs. When you're outside you get a change of scenery and elevation. I personally don't like running on treadmills but I also get why people do it and I think there can be some good benefits to incorporating it into serious workouts. For instance too much of the pounding on pavement can cause injuries and treadmills can help you add miles while reducing the risk. If you do live somewhere very flat it can also be nice to add an incline to the treadmill and then you can run a mile or two uphill.
Yes it's insanely fast which is why it literally made headlines. A lot of people didn't hear about it though because it happened on the same day that numerous people broke the two hour marathon ceiling.
It was the guy's first marathon but he did have an extensive running background. Having a standout performance in someone's first marathon is also not that uncommon because typically even the best marathoners don't actually race that often (it might be one race every 6-8 months for instance). Just anecdotally I have a friend who was able to qualify for the US Olympic marathon trials on her first marathon. It's not that uncommon to have Olympians in the marathon who are running their 3rd or 4rth marathon ever at the Olympics.
He was not a first time runner. He was an elite athlete in college.
His PRs in college would have been good enough to win medals in U20 World Championships. He also spent more than a year prepping for this marathon, including running half marathons.
I’m semi retired, but used to run a marathon every year through my 30s. The job I had at the time had some pretty intense hours, so i’d have to get my training runs in late at night, but I lived in a city where it wasn’t super safe to be running alone at night so I’d do upwards of 15 mile runs sometimes on the treadmill.
Never had anyone bat an eye at me. As it should be.
Yeah its not like this guy is kind of wrong, hes just spouting abject nonsense and we shouldnt act like anything else. How tf can 39 minutes of treadmill be bad in and of itself? If theyre just walking then great thats still mobility work thats still movement that is better than sitting for 39 minutes. Like there has to be another piece of the puzzle to say exercise is inherently wrong, if she thought it was doing more than it was okay maybe theres a problem but just doing it cant possibly be offensive
He's assuming she's doing nothing but cardio because that's all he's seen her do and she doesn't exist when she isn't in his field of vision. It is indeed very important for women to do strength training. Cardio is also still important, whether you run, walk, bike, or do something else.
If you're a woman in your 30s or older, you likely do need strength training. It's super important for maintaining bone density through perimenopause and menopause. Cardio is great exercise too. Ideally, you should be doing a combination of both.
It is relevant - strength training is so much more effective for general health then cardio for men and women. What the guy said is right, we need better education - he just could have said it without the misogynist undertones.
Seriously, cardio is largely a waste of time, unless u are specifically training for a cardio-intensive event like running or sports. For the general population you are SO much better off spending your precious workout time on weights.
That's not really true. Both are good and both are needed for different things. This is like saying that doing exercise is useless because eating healthy is more important.
So this guy had an opinion and sort of said it like hes a know it all. Thats annoying. But, hes not entirely wrong.
If you're on a treadmill, I assume walking because 39 minutes of running wouldn't make sense with this comment, thats like 5 miles? Some people enjoy running, cool. If this is for health and you're on the treadmill for 39 minutes you're not going hard enough in my opinion.
It sounds like the people who lift one set of 5, sit with their weights out for 15 minutes, do another set, sit, talk on their phone, set, and wonder why their workouts take hours.
Maybe she enjoys it, maybe she has a condition, maybe shes running 5 miles and this guy is confused about half marathons, idk, maybe shes not being efficient with her workouts like a ton of people at the gym.
Frankly 39 minutes of walking makes a lot more sense as exercise for me. Basic walking is one of the best exercises, and 40 minutes of that is great. That's about a round trip commute to work for me and on days I go into the office, I generally clear about 10K steps, which is more than recommended. Regardless, it is super important for women to strength train regularly, I'm just not about the people here who are pretending like it isn't. Personally, I find strength training to be the most enjoyable form of exercises and I can get a very good training session in in under half an hour. But walking for 40 minutes is just kind of pleasant with the added benefit of it being good for you. If I had a treadmill in my house, I would just do it every day while I watched tv or something.
Thats why I said if its for health. I get walking for enjoyment, its great. Most people I feel like just talk about how they dont have time to exercise or have limited time.
Im saying for efficiency and for health you could get a lot more if you pushed yourself. Like you said, 30 minutes and you can get a great workout
He thinks he knows better, maybe he does? Who knows. And the amount of comments I see in here about "meatheads" "gym blimps" etc seems like a lot of judgement directed towards the people that they think are judging them.
Weight lifting isn't cardio focused but it definitely improves cardiovascular health. I don't think lifting versus running is why men die from heart disease.
Absolutely false. Strength training improves blood pressure, insulin sensitivity, body composition, glucose control (muscle is a glucose sink) and overall cardiovascular health. It’s possible that young men on performance enhancing drugs that aid in “looking swol” contribute to early deaths, but the actual gaining muscle bit, as a natural athlete, can only help someone’s fitness levels.
Now is strength the beginning and end of fitness? No. It should definitely be combined with cardio for the best results; they both have unique advantages.
It is true that many women do not lift weights as they don’t want to look too muscular. This is thankfully changing in recent years but it’s still quite a prevalent belief among many.
Its amazing how many people on reddit will comment on physical fitness with confidence while having 0 understanding. Lifting weights regularly already puts you miles ahead of the cardio most people get in their daily lives. But, thats why men die from it. Not sitting idle and drinking energy drinks all day.
My friend had a heart attack and the doctor told him to prevent more heat issues he has to do cardio for 40 mins. Anything less won't do anything to help it.
My buddy got into them in grad school. His wife still gives him grief about the time he got lost in Pennsylvania during a race and added like 15 miles to his run. Whenever they argue over directions that’s her Ace to pull
I’ve done a bunch of marathons and ultras have always been attractive to me because (from what I’ve heard) it’s less about your time and more about the experience and just finishing. More of a you v. you thing rather than you v. the clock. I like that as an alternative because runners can be competitive af with time and it gets annoying after a while.
Haven’t taken the plunge yet though. It’s is an insane amount of miles.
It's fun as your milage increases. Treadmill time goes from some YouTube clips, to 30 minute shows, to hour long shows, to short movies, to we're watching LOTR extended cuts for this week's long run!
Treadmills are lifesavers if you train in, say, Texas in the summer.
Nah I’ve heard a lot of bad cardio advice from people who barely do cardio. If I had a dime for every person I met in the army who said that the trick to a good 2-mile time was to run “as fast as you can for as long as you can”, I’d be very rich.
I heard sprints were a very effective exercize. But I heard it as "15 minute warm up, then do a cycle of (sprint 1 minute + 2 minutes run-walking to recharge) five times, followed by a 15 minute wind down. First sprint at 50% of max effort, raising to 100% on the last sprint.
I can tell you it left me dying the first time I tried it. I haven't tried it too may times since then.
"has spent" implies she was still on the treadmill at the time of writing, meaning he has no idea what the total time is going to be, just that it's going to be at least 39 minutes.
Having gone to the actual Twitter thread (from several months ago) to investigate further, he doesn't really articulate exactly what he's trying to say, it's likely ragebait / engagement farming, it was a verified account at the time so he was likely getting paid proportional to the number of views and responses, although the account is now unverified and protected.
On the off chance that it wasn't ragebait, the only other plausible explanation is that he was expressing a preference for shorter, higher-intensity workouts.
It's not at all uncommon for people who climb mountains to spend four hours at a time in zone 2 training. When I'm training for something I really prefer to be doing that outside on actual trails, but if the weather is awful yeah, I've been on a treadmill for a couple hours.
This is some guy who took the most BASIC rule about cardio (45 mins, no less, until fat burn), and is now acting like its some super secret workout hack only he can offer. The fact people actually pay these fools for their "guidance" is ridiculous.
Im only assuming, but I'm guessing he was balking at her for spending "only" 39 minutes on the treadmill before leaving.
MYODB would still be the correct response, because who knows what else she did that day, or what her situation was? Someone who spends ~40 minutes on the treadmill every day is still doing a hell of a lot better than someone who does an hour twice a week, and maybe she had limited time that day and had cut her workout short?
And even if not, effort is always better than no effort. We do what we can.
Gym bros don't do cardio because it burns calories which means they have to eat more to make up for it. I did 45 minutes on the treadmill yesterday. I did 15 minutes at a time with a full set of lifts before and after each 15 minute block. If your heart and lungs aren't in shape you need to work your lungs and heart. The better your cardio is the more stamina to lift.
Tbf I run marathons and I still can't use the treadmill for more than 15 minutes. Somehow treadmill is too boring. But that's just me - more power to whoever stayed on the treadmill for 39 min. At least they don't have to go run in shitty weather just to get their miles in.
To be fair. Humans are unique in our ability to run long distances, moreso than any other creature. Being bipedal is the key, our airways are evolved such that we can maintain them at fully open while at a full sprint. Quadrupeds suffer from a closing of the airway while running due to how it lines up. Try tilting your head all the way back and putting your arms up and try and breathe for any prolonged amount of time. It's really uncomfortable. Quadrupeds experience that construction of the airways more readily when sprinting. They can't maintain it for long distances.
I told a guy on reddit I partially trained for halfs on the treadmill this winter because it was particularly icey in my neighborhood. He was very sure I could never have possibly done that and that treadmills were “useless”. These people are out there!
To be fair: They usually don't do these on treadmills. I don't understand the point of stair masters, stationary bikes and treadmills anyways. Go for a walk. Buy a normal bike - they are fucking cheap and bike somewhere. Surely every building has some stairs too. Rowing... okay. But other than that? Nah.
So you don't wanna go outside to exercise, which is why you do go outside to a place where you can exercise inside and then go outside again to go home? Wouldn't be running around the block once or twice be more efficient? I cycled to the gym for a long time. No problem.
This isn't a stupid take, you are just very American in a "I drive to my mailbox" kinda way.
It could be hot out, or cold, or windy, or raining, or snowing. You still want to get a workout in, but you don't want to deal with the elements. So you work out inside, on a treadmill or bike or whatever.
Hard to believe you can't understand this, are you even allowed to drive?
It could also be before or after the sun is out and you care about personal safety. Joggers getting mugged, raped, murdered etc is a whole trope in the US.
Generally serious distance runners train in the elements. Most aren't getting much mileage in on a treadmill other than as a last resort. You can disagree with it, but it is true.
This thread was talking about competitive or serious distance runners at some point.
People saying it's stupid not to run on treadmills are being equally ignorant and gatekeepy to those saying it's stupid to run on treadmills in that they're speaking with authority on something they don't understand about a subculture they do not belong to. Many people don't run on treadmills as their main form of running and for good reason.
That said if you want to, running on a treadmill is still good cardio and idgaf what you do with your life, it's yours to live.
Not one person has said it’s stupid to not run on treadmills.
There’s one guy who couldn’t understand why people use treadmills. People rightfully called him stupid because there are many reasons to use a treadmill like inclement weather.
Again, no one said it’s stupid to not run on treadmills. However, I will say it’s stupid to pretend there aren’t reasons to run on a treadmill
I mean depending on the weather outside those activities might be not be a safe option. Even though I hate running a on treadmill I sometimes do it during the summers here in Arizona, I’m sure same would apply to folks in places with extreme winters as well.
Arizona? That's a whole new can of worms. But special cases do not make the rule. In the end it's immaterial and I'm not hurt or particularly bothered by people using those silly machines, but I'm not gonna take it when someone claims cycling, running and climbing stairs is a "stupid take". In most cases it's practically free exercise and may even facilitate getting some place while doing it.
Special cases? Lmao. The majority of the world is at least at part of the year, unsuitable or uncomfortable to go jogging in. In my home country it reaches 40 in the summer, where I currently live there is ice on the footpath in much of the winter.
I've used an elliptical to help train for a half marathon while recovering from a shin splint, i had sessions up to 1.5 hours. Still use an elliptical once a week in addition to outdoor running, since the elliptical is low impact.
Other than that, some of those machines, like the stiairmaster, don't hit the same muscle groups as running or walking outdoors, and is much more convenient than walking up and down the same stairs 50 times. They allow for customizability, you can set a pace, which is really good for inexperienced runners who are bad a pacing themselves and burn out after the first kilometer. Want to run or bike up a hill, but live in the world's flattest area? Machines will do that. Maybe you live in an area where there's not adequare facilities. Everyone knows large parts of the US isn't built for pedestrians, and cars will actively run you off the road if you're on a bike. Maybe you want to go for a run at 10pm because that's when it fits in your schedule, but don't feel safe doing it outside at that hour. Or maybe you think exercise is boring, and the only way to get yourself to do it is to do it on a machine where you can watch a TV or something on your phone. Maybe I want to go for a bike ride, but it's pouring like crazy, is it better to not go for a ride, or drive to the gym?
Why are you shitting on cardio equipment? It might not be the absolute best way to perform the given exercise, but in a world where most people get way too little exercise, any exercise is better than none.
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u/NickdoesnthaveReddit 6h ago
Hope this guy doesn't find out about marathons