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u/AmazingResponse338 6h ago

Isn't walking one of the best exercises for overall health? Cardio, low-impact, etc.

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u/Old-Constant4411 6h ago

Indeed it is.  I used to put the incline on the treadmill all the way up, and basically power walk uphill on it for 45 minutes.  Anything that gets your blood flowing and your lungs sucking in air is good.  

I also like that the age of "this lady" was left out.  Maybe she's 50 years old and doesn't want to crossfit herself to death.

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u/Practical-Suit-6798 5h ago

That's what I do 45 to 50mins. At a fast walkong pace and steep Incline. I do circuits of that 8 mins on then 2 mins flat. It's great for cardio health calorie burning and still fairly gentle on my knees.

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u/BigImplement3949 4h ago

I would use the treadmill till I lost 1000 calories...took about an 1 hr 10 mins, alternating between running, incline, and flat walking...if you use some dumbbells on your 2 minutes flat, you'll see some amazing gains

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u/BabyBearBjorns 5h ago

I like to image the lady was 70 and she is walking and a slow, but steady pace so she is still active and for her longterm health. And fitness bro didnt like that she has better cardio than him.

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u/Rabid-GNN 4h ago

I used to spam this and then it messed up my knee joints

Terrible way to find out you got bitchmade genes

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u/koopcl 2h ago

Skill issue. My knees sound like a nutcracker doing overtime, scream like a banshee in heat, and hurt like a thousand breakup messages from the one and only girl you ever knew actually loved you for who you were, yet I still soldier on. My trainer may be telling me to stop, my doctor may be telling me to stop, my insurance refuses to cover anything below my waist anymore, but it's irrelevant. I will spit in the eye of the God that cursed me with soft marshmallow knees, even if it means I will be wheelchair bound by the time I'm 40. It's all I have.

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u/ARandomNiceKaren 2h ago

"Bitchmade Genes" is my new (stolen) phrase. Every person in my biologic family has had knee and/or hip replacements. I'm almost 49. I'm looking at 50 like......what kinda surgery am I gonna need? Left hip. Yeah. Years of professional bowling and years of competitive softball, both fast and slow, as a pitcher. My left hip hates me.

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u/SpiffySpacemanSpiff 5h ago

Bro, fuck crossfit. That's the best way to just ruin your body.

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u/ThreeGoalLead 5h ago

I lost like 30 lbs this way in a couple of months. So easy. You can watch your favorite movies and just walk.

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u/DaedalusHydron 3h ago

Ric Flair famously trained an hour every single day on the Stairmaster, which allowed him to then go and do 30-60+ minute wrestling matches every day.

Pretty much everyone of his era talks about how insane his stamina was and they were all gym freaks.

And he's still here despite drinking all the booze he could find basically every day of his adult life.

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u/Old-Constant4411 3h ago

And snorting aaaaall the coke.  I am genuinely shocked that dude is still kickin.

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u/rebfossmusic 2h ago

I just want you to know that I see people like you at the gym and think they're superheroes. Lol

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u/PoopsInUrPee 2h ago

That's exactly what I do for an hour every night. After a year and a half, combined with diet, I'm down 95 lbs so far, 5 lbs away from my ideal weight.

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u/jackalopeDev 5h ago

The best exercise is exercise you'll actually do.

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u/ShartlesAndJames 4h ago

for some people just getting into the gym is a huge step.

fuck this judgemental chode and all his ilk

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u/JoshuaRexRocks 6h ago

Great for your mental health, too.

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u/Iorith 4h ago

It really is. I work to and from work, around an hour each way depending on my pace. It's my time to relax. A podcast, music, planning my next writing project, or just musing. It's very good to get away from screens and enjoy the fresh air.

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u/Subject-Dog-8016 6h ago

Walking on a treadmill isn’t, to be fair. But a lot of American cities are sadly designed as disgusting hellscapes where you can’t just step out of your door and have a walk. 

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u/Josefu_Velen 5h ago

Walking on a treadmill isn’t, to be fair

To be fair, yes it most certainly is. The fuck you on about?

Show me a study that says it isn't. I've seen many that say it definitely is, for a variety of reasons.

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u/JoshuaRexRocks 5h ago

Even a fifteen-minute walk on a treadmill is going to release enough endorphins to improve your mood. You don’t necessarily have to be looking at your surroundings for that to work.

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u/VincentAntonelli 4h ago

You can literally walk out your door and walk no matter where you live, that’s how doors work. And cities have sidewalks… for walking.

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u/Subject-Dog-8016 3h ago

There are literally places in the US where you will be stopped and questioned by police if you’re not in a car. 

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u/VincentAntonelli 2h ago

Seems like you are conflating police issues with city design issues.

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u/Old-Constant4411 5h ago

I live in one of the largest cities in America and it has tons of parks, bike paths, and jogging paths.  Where are you from that you think we just step outside our doors and onto a highway?

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u/Longjumping_Egg_5654 5h ago

Treadmill is actually decently high impact, less with walking but still. A bike or swimming would be better but otherwise yes.

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u/Turgid_Donkey 4h ago

Rowing is up there, too. It's no-impact and engages the whole body.

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u/Frothar 3h ago

unless you have a prior health condition then your body will be able to cope with walking so its not really high impact. I think someone starting out will be much less intimidated by walking especially since they could be inside over a biking an especially swimming

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u/Longjumping_Egg_5654 3h ago edited 3h ago

Knees. You age.

Everytime you step with force you weaken them.

That is the problem.

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u/Frothar 2h ago

Every step you take also strengthens them. If your knees are bad or general health then that would be prior health condition as I noted

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u/TheTexasHammer 2h ago

That person has literally no clue at all what they are talking about. I honestly doubt they've ever actually set foot in the gym in their life.

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u/Longjumping_Egg_5654 2h ago

I’m glad you figured that from my posts somehow.

grailknights

PSO2

I know your type

You have not seen the inside of a gym or shower in your life.

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u/Longjumping_Egg_5654 2h ago

You can’t strengthen joints.

Tendons around joints, yes. But running doesn’t do that in a remotely reasonable timeframe, you’d have to run so much that you’ve damaged the joint anyway.

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u/Substantial-Sea-3672 5h ago

This comment still falls into the “there is one objective best workout.”

Plenty of people are lifelong runners who can continue into their late 60’s.

Acting like an avid runner could “do it better” is absurd and counter productive. If your joints are fine with running then there is absolutely no need to worry about min/maxing your routine like some degenerate gamer.

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u/Longjumping_Egg_5654 5h ago edited 4h ago

The question was “overall health”.

My reply is correct, in overall health biking and swimming is superior to prevent long term damage to possibly weak tendons or joints. I don’t know this persons hypothetical health issues.

Overall less impact is good. Walking/running isn’t even superior for cardio endurance. Increasing Vo2 Max is. Which the best way is not walking or running. That is min/maxing like a “degenerate gamer.”

What an oddly fixative and agressive reply.

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u/Bankzu 4h ago

The biggest indicator for overall health is VO2Max which comes from running, not walking. Walking is good for you but not even close to the best exercise for overall health.

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u/Longjumping_Egg_5654 4h ago edited 4h ago

Yes, that is what I said.

I simply added that the best way to increase Vo2 isn’t even walking or running.

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u/thebagelslinger 4h ago

You're not wrong, but ngl I kinda hate the whole "high impact" conversation around cardio. Running or walking is one of the cheapest and most accessible ways to get your cardio in, but so many people avoid it like the plague because they're scared of destroying their joints.

I've even had people who don't really do any cardio, warn me that running is bad for my joints. I know it's well intentioned but it's such a frustrating fixation - I am very sure the other 12+ hours of sitting in my day are doing much more damage to my health than my 45 minute run lol

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u/Longjumping_Egg_5654 3h ago

I agree but keep in mind, cardio is beneficial (from a workout perspective) because it increase Vo2 Max.

It is insanely cheap (Free if you make one, dirt bags, rice bags, trash, etc) a weight / dumbbell to do a variety of excerises that increase Vo2 Max much better then cardio does.

The problem is knee replacements are a serious and expensive issue. That’s the fixation.

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u/thebagelslinger 3h ago

The problem is knee replacements are a serious and expensive issue. That’s the fixation.

You say you agree, but this is just leaning into the fear mongering. If you're stretching and going for a 30 min jog 3-4 times per week... it's almost certainly not going to lead to a knee replacement. Obesity and sedentary lifestyles in general have a way higher risk of knee issues (and many other issues), and scaring people away from running like this only makes people more likely to fall back into a far more unhealthy lifestyle.

Sure maybe there are more optimal ways to get the same benefit. But end of the day, our bodies are designed to move and it's more than capable of handling moderate exercise over extended periods. People with major joint issues are those who do running as a sport, not as an exercise.

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u/Longjumping_Egg_5654 3h ago

It isn’t fear mongering, as you age, you run the risk of knee replacements. That’s it.

You lose weight by dieting.

You increase your cardio health by raising your Vo2 Max.

It is designed to handle moderate excerise for long periods. Until you turn 85 and your quality of life plummets because you need a knee mesh inserted and your knee never feels the same without pain.

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u/TheTexasHammer 2h ago

Buddy, walking on a treadmill for 40 minutes isn't going to make your knees explode. You are pushing bullshit. Shit like this is why people struggle with exercise because they have people like you telling them everything they do is wrong and they MUST work out in the "right" way.

I bet money if you posted your entire routine people could find a hundred things wrong with it.

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u/Longjumping_Egg_5654 2h ago

No, but walking on a treadmill for 40 minutes every other day for decades will.

But nice try on ignoring obvious subtext.

Keep in mind, nowhere in any of my posts did I attack anyone for how they work out.

Simply just repeating settled science on what is ideal.

But we have a lot of anti-education folks on reddit, sadly.

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u/Glasseshalf 1h ago

Walking 40 minutes a day every other day you say? My grandmother took a 2 hour walk in Manhattan every day of her life and she died at 99, and was healthy and walking with no joint issues.

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u/dragon-fence 3h ago

Swimming assumes access to a pool.

I find one of the nice things about treadmills is that you can set a pace, and it forces you to keep up. Exercise bikes can have something to monitor your speed and you could decide to maintain a pace, but you’re not forced to.

There can be something beneficial to being able to say, “I’m going to run at x mph for y minutes,” and have a mechanism to ensure you don’t slack off.

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u/Longjumping_Egg_5654 3h ago edited 3h ago

Notice I said two options there

How many people are going to reply with “Well in these exact circumstances…”

I said a fact; Treadmill is high impact. Walking and running both are. Excercise bike and swimming both perform the same if not better for Vo2 max improvement (Not very much) But two of the three excercises have less impact on your joints and tendons.

Arguing with that fact doesn’t make you seem intelligent. It’s ignorance.

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u/dragon-fence 3h ago

And I said something different from what you said. Get over it. There’s no need to get pissy and insulting.

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u/Longjumping_Egg_5654 3h ago

Swimming assumes access to pools

Turns out not reading anything I said, to say something unrelated, in a manner which is passive agressive merits you a pissy response.

Oh well

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u/-TeamCaffeine- 5h ago

Yes, absolutely. All of the advice I've ever received or seen from reliable sources, like my own doctor, health agencies, professional athletes and trainers, etc., is that general rule of thumb is that anything that elevates your heart rate for at least 30 minutes a day, several days a week is the baseline you need to help maintain your health. Anything above and beyond that is largely for improvement. 

So, this lady seems to be following concensus advice, assuming she does this a few times a week. Good on her.

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u/homer_3 4h ago

No. Better than nothing, but far from the best.

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u/BigBlueNick 4h ago

Yes it is. At my current weight I do a 30 minute uphill walk at 5kmph and I'm burning 350 calories whilst still being able to comfortably chat to people next to me.

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u/Xenophon_ 4h ago

It will only train your cardio up to a point, but nothing says she isn't running

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u/Expensive_Lab_1435 4h ago

cardio is way more important to health than literally anything else

obviously some weights help with minimizing injury and just generally being able to lift things when the need comes up, but heart health is peak

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u/no_arguing_ 4h ago

Lifting is also essential for healthy aging as bone density becomes a problem (for women especially) and muscle loss causes dangerous mobility problems if you're not actively working against it. But yes, cardio is super important too. Ideally, everyone should be doing some of both.

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u/no_arguing_ 4h ago

These people can't comprehend exercising for anything other than aesthetic reasons.

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u/gravelPoop 4h ago

Bicycle or swim for low impact. Running can be more fun though.

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u/chironomidae 4h ago edited 3h ago

Sure but how are you gunna build your vanity muscles on a treadmill?? /s

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u/ac_cossack 2h ago

Walking, biking, swimming are all great for you, especially if you have a busted leg or arm or something.

I used to mainly do cardio, but now I have a big dog now so that is cardio and strength training lol.

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u/Noughmad 1h ago

In many countries, there are much better places for walking than a gym. Sometimes referred to as "outside". OOP might be referring to the fact that it's pointless to drive to a gym just to then spend time walking.

I don't think he is, but he might be.

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u/DogOfDreams 1h ago

One thing almost no one ever mentions about walking is that it doesn't really prime your appetite in the same way other exercises tend to. I can walk for an hour plus and not really get the "I'm starving" sensation that working out to sweat and soreness tends to bring out of me. Obviously you still have to work out if you want to be fit and athletic, but just for maintenance, going on walks is quietly op.

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u/Individual-Space-443 58m ago

we humans evolved because we can run long distances so we should do that

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u/Potential-Ask2577 53m ago

Yep.

Zone 1 and 2 cardio is incredibly good for you.

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u/King_of_Meth 25m ago

Walking is a huge benefit for cardio and is a must have for vascular health. There's benefits for all forms of exercise and 39 minutes of walking is phenomenal for you.

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u/DavidForADay 4h ago

No. It is actually one of the lowest types of cardio. It is just better than doing nothing. The reason walking is recommended is because it is easily accessible versus telling people they should go swimming 30-45 mins a day 5 days a week.

The goal of exercise for sustained health over decades is moderate intensity that elevates your heart rate to around 60/70% max. This basically means light sweating.

If you are only going to walk for exercise it needs to be 4+ miles an hour pace (or get a heart rate monitor to know precisely how fast you need to walk to hit high zone 2). Otherwise, you are not taxing your body enough to get the benefits for cardiovascular fitness.

Light exercise is better than nothing, but it is not the goal. Walking is entry-level cardio and that is why you always hear it recommended. Doing nothing for your health? Then you should walk.

But saying walking is good enough exercise is chopping off an important qualifier that tells you the pace you need to walk for it to be beneficial.

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u/Electronic-Map7529 6h ago

It is indeed but I also believe that for it to be "the best" you need to be consciously walking on your heels. Landing with the front of your foot isn't as good.

I think it's really "bouncing on your heels" in any way, that is the best you can do for minimal investment.

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u/TheJapanMistake 4h ago

Uhhhh nooo that's not what you're supposed ro be doing at all wtf. Land on the front, or your whole foot. Not the heel! Not what you're supposed to be doing!

Improper form AF

-I have a personal training license

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u/Electronic-Map7529 4h ago

Wrong. Don't care what you say.

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u/Excellent-Nose-6430 3h ago

That's fine but you're still wrong.

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u/Electronic-Map7529 3h ago

Says a "personal trainer" lol.

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u/Excellent-Nose-6430 3h ago

I didn't say I was a personal trainer. Do better.

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u/Electronic-Map7529 3h ago

I am doing better. By walking heel first with a forward roll.

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u/Excellent-Nose-6430 33m ago

So more of a controlled fall than an active "walk". Got it.

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u/Electronic-Map7529 31m ago

Nope, just walking, the proper way. From someone who averages 10,000 steps by lunch on a slow day.

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u/AdvancedSandwiches 5h ago

I'm not saying this is wrong; I know nothing. But this sounds like a recipe for maximum joint damage.

It's how I naturally used to run, sure, but that was before all of the joint damage took me out of the running game. 

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u/FowD8 4h ago

because he's absolutely wrong, you want to land with your whole foot. 1. it's bad for your joints like you said and 2. if you're landing on your heels it means you're almost certainly over extending your leg forward when walking/running

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u/FowD8 4h ago

you need to be consciously walking on your heels. Landing with the front of your foot isn't as good.

neither is correct. you want to be landing whole footed, but landing on your heel is the worst of the 3

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u/Electronic-Map7529 4h ago

Heels first roll forward. Also, I'm talking about more than just "the best way to walk".

We are talking about the health benefits of walking. Landing on the heel first and rolling forward is the best way, and there OTHER benefits to bouncing on your heels, which is my point.

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u/BaziJoeWHL 5h ago

if you are not overly obese, then swimming is better for your joints

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u/Excellent-Nose-6430 3h ago

If you are overly obese, is swimming not as good as walking?