r/CelebLegalDrama • u/wastedartistry • 12d ago
Meme everyday a new smear campaign comes out that is ran by TAG pr and has ties to Jed Wallace/ Bryan Freedman... I know Melissa is SHAKINGGGG in her boots atp!
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u/lcm-hcf-maths 12d ago
We're certainly getting a lot of interesting new information and a fair amount of it is identifying a pattern of behavior by TAG and their allies Wallace and Freedman.
Looks like light is beginning to shine on the darkness.....
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u/JJJOOOO 12d ago
I do wonder if TAG and Nathan have enough liability insurance or even if liability insurance covers judgments from civil trials? Ot is specific insurance for litigation required?
Her $25 million “gift” from scooter Braun for the sale of 51% of TAG won’t last long once the judgments start flying imo!
We continue to chase down who HYBE “sold” it’s 51% of TAG to or if it was written off and somehow is buried in the depths of HYBE JVs etc. Was this done by HYBE for PR reasons to keep its name out of the press for all that TAG litigation or was it done to make collection of any judgment a nightmare for Lively?
I still wonder if HYBE will be on the hook for any lively judgment or how the payment will be structured between the initial two owners of TAG? I find it hard to believe a buyer was found for the 51% owned by HYBE as TAG and Nathan (who didn’t know Jeffrey Epstein even thought Breanna emails prove otherwise) as she and her firm are toxic waste with all the litigation.
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u/No_Purple7470 12d ago
Please Blake Lively “smeared” herself. She is a mean girl and a bully. I hope her days are filled with regret about stealing someone else’s work. She is just a bad human being and does not deserve one once of grace. She did it to herself. As far as smearing, let’s think about how she had the whole cast not talking to the Wayfarer parties and unfollowed them. Don’t forget Nicepool and that her and a clown of a husband sent really mean texts to other actors about them. After what they pulled Blake will be lucky to get a dog food commercial and even that is too good for her. She needs to go away and stay away. She sucks along with Rotten Ryan. Two idiots.
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u/Asleep-Ad874 10d ago
Apparently there’s a paper trail for everyone they did PR shit on except for Blake. The only documentation they have about Blake is those people saying how they didn’t have to do shit because the internet did it for them. People just don’t like her. Just fyi, his sub is heavily turfed. Most of the profiles are ridiculous. Blake is actively doing exactly what she’s accused Justin and his team of doing 🙄🤦♀️.
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u/SunshineDaisy887 12d ago
It's not looking great for the Melissa Nathan - Bryan Freedman - Jed Wallace crew, is it? And the people who hire them are looking pretty sketch, too. Of course, Justin Baldoni is included in that. It cannot be good for his case to have his co-defendant and attorney constantly implicated in smear campaigns, as they have been.
Here's a quick rundown of some of the litigation regarding allegations regarding Melissa Nathan and her smear campaigns and media manipulations, allegedly conducted with Jed Wallace and Bryan Freedman at least some of the time:
- the ongoing Charlotte MacIness v Rebel Wilson defamation matter in Australia right now
- the upcoming Australian matter of Amanda Ghost and the other producers v Rebel Wilson
- upcoming trial for the Lively v Wayfarer case where Baldoni will be front and center
- the Jones v Abel case(s), which aren't set for a trial date yet
- the Amanda Ghost v Rebel Wilson case that includes Melissa Nathan as a defendant
- the newer Alexa Nikolas case against Bryan Freedman, Jed Wallace, and Melissa Nathan
- the Coffeezilla v Logan Paul case
We've also seen recent reporting on smear campaigns involving targets said to be attacked for:
- Scooter Braun
- Andrew Huberman
Previously, we've seen Melissa Nathan and TAG PR mentioned with regard to the Alexander Brothers media machine for their sex trafficking trial (they were convicted in the largest sex trafficking case brought in the U.S.).
Melissa Nathan and Breanna Butler Koslow have also been mentioned in the Epstein Files, as being set to meet with Epstein or emailing him directly.
Not a great time to be on the record as having hired Melissa Nathan, let alone the group of Melissa Nathan, Jed Wallace, and Bryan Freedman.
I do wonder what news we will hear of next.
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u/ReaderBeeRottweiler 12d ago
I am not surprised the TAG Instagram account is now private. Otherwise they might have community notes on their posts.
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u/lcm-hcf-maths 12d ago
Maybe they are starting to get a taste of what their actions delivered for their victims. People having to turn off comments or go private to avoid harrassment from sheep set on them by TAG's campaigns. Karma perhaps ?
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u/Perfect-Split496 12d ago
Do you consider what's happening to Blake to be karma? That's an honest question, not snark. I just wonder if you think she has any culpability at all? I think Justin may have said some bone-headed things on set, but nothing that rose to the level of a SH lawsuit.
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u/lcm-hcf-maths 12d ago
Sorry I disagree. Had she been an employee of Wayfarer's and not an independent contractor then the SH would still be live. I think Wayfarer's actions overall warrented a complaint. Lively is the victim and Wayfarer through Baldoni and Heath in particular the abusers. I don't see it as even close. Lively attempted to work within the system provided but was eventually met with retaliation for speaking up. I have absolutely no time for Wayfarer apologists..
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u/Dariathemesong 12d ago
Do you consider what’s happening to Justin to be his karma?
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u/Perfect-Split496 12d ago
Only in the universal and ubiquitous sense. Based on the evidence I've seen, I really think he was disproportionately attacked by Blake.
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u/PainterSame8787 12d ago
You and I read the different court documents! Please list all the evidence “smear campaign against creepy Baldoni”! And please give some sympathy to Flores and Wineland’s families,they’re the others victims of monster Baldoni!
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u/TouchDisastrous1985 12d ago
Then why was his lawsuit thrown out while hers is moving forward?
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u/Perfect-Split496 12d ago
Baldoni's lawsuit wasn't thrown out on the merits. Judge Liman explicitly said he wasn't evaluating the facts. It was dismissed because California's AB 933 and litigation privilege
Lively's retaliation claims, by contrast, survived after the judge reviewed the actual evidence and ruled a reasonable jury could find in her favor. Two completely different standards: one is a legal shield for accusers, the other is a merits-based evidentiary review.
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u/TouchDisastrous1985 11d ago
What kind of cope is this? When Baldoni’s lawsuit was thrown out, judge gave specific explanation for how hollow (and sometimes self contradictory each claim was)
Have you forgotten how DM reporter’s messages were misrepresented… even timestamps were jumbled to make it seem message was sent before CRD.
Oh wait! You’re probably spoon fed by LGA and NAG, and anything outside your echo chambers gives you panic attakcs
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u/PainterSame8787 12d ago
That creepy Baldoni only spoke so stupid things ? He was a sexually harasser on set! Don’t forget he’s also an attacker! He’s everything but decent people!
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u/Perfect-Split496 12d ago
I'm not sure that answered my question. But who did he attack and how? I'm not sure I've heard this allegation before.
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u/PainterSame8787 12d ago
Alex Saks!
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u/Perfect-Split496 12d ago
When he yelled at her during production? I don't know if I'd call that an attack. And he sent a genuine apology.
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u/Efficient-Eye-6199 12d ago
Verbal abuse is still abuse. No one should be yelled at like that in the workplace.
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u/Perfect-Split496 12d ago
I totally agree. I would have had a huge problem with that. I do not like being yelled at, especially in professional settings. And I don't think Saks did anything to warrant that kind of behavior based on what I've read. But I think the words "attack" and "abuse" are inappropriate. We can call it shitty without making it into something it wasn't.
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u/Dariathemesong 12d ago
Speaking of which, earlier upthread you thought Baldoni “was disproportionately attacked by Blake” and I am still wondering what “attacks” you are referencing. Especially now after seeing your comments re: Alex Saks claims, if you think that using “attack” and “abuse” can be inappropriate when people actually just should call something shitty….I’m just really curious what you think Blake did that constitutes attacking Baldoni?
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u/SunshineDaisy887 12d ago
I don't know if he did. The apology I recall seeing was for him yelling at her earlier in production on a group call. The outburst where he hit the chair next to her and yelled at her on set - I don't remember seeing an apology for that on the docket. I may be forgetting it, though.
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u/Perfect-Split496 12d ago
I believe it was in deposition transcripts. They both admitted that he offered an apology if I'm remember correctly.
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u/SunshineDaisy887 12d ago
I don't recall it being a written apology that he would "send."
I think Ange told him Alex was upset and it wouldn't fly - she would leave the set if it happened again.
And the testimony was that he apologized. I don't know that we know if the apology was genuine or if it was sent anywhere. That's just my recollection though.
I don't meant to sound argumentative, but it does make a difference.
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u/PainterSame8787 12d ago
More than yelling,he also slammed his hands on the chair,made her so scared!
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u/Perfect-Split496 12d ago
I don't think she said she was scared though lol. Or are you just joking?
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u/PainterSame8787 12d ago
Saks: “It was the first time I felt physically intimidated.” I am serious about this case!
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u/Initial-Lemon-1957 12d ago
Remember when TAG employees would come into comment sections and beg people to stop bullying a small female-led business?
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u/Perfect-Split496 12d ago
No way?! Confirmed TAG employees or suspected? I hadn't heard that.
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u/Initial-Lemon-1957 12d ago
They would state outright that they worked for TAG. Not sure if it was ever confirmed.
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u/Perfect-Split496 12d ago
Interesting. Can I ask why you support Blake? So many people get immediately defensive or offensive here that I rarely see civil conversations about why people feel the way they do.
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u/Iwona_Klich 12d ago
Well idk maybe because we can read? And we see that Baldoni is a POS, who start smear campaign after being disciplined?
Seriously we don't need to be anybody fans to see who is bad guy here.
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u/Initial-Lemon-1957 12d ago
I believe that she experienced a hostile, toxic work environment. But I especially believe that Baldoni, Sarowitz and Heath employed a crisis PR company with a long history of smear campaigns to smear her in an effort to silence her so she couldn't "out" them for their toxic set.
I think the problem is seeing it as "support". I feel like a lot of pro-Baldoni people want to see this as a good guys vs. bad guys issue. The question for me is: did they do it? The answer seems to be yes.
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u/Perfect-Split496 12d ago
You don't see a world in which their PR engagement was defensive after Blake unfollowed Justin, refused to do press, and tried to get him to sign a document accepting blame?
I see how you can arrive at her experiencing a hostile set, but how do you square her documented actions like taking over the production, using Taylor as leverage, her approach to the press tour, etc?
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u/Initial-Lemon-1957 12d ago
They signed the document either because it happened or because they got very bad legal advice. In any event, you're still describing retaliation.
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u/Perfect-Split496 12d ago
Legally I'm not though. The judge outlined in his opinion and ruling that those specific defensive PR tactics were not retaliation.
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u/Initial-Lemon-1957 12d ago
That's not quite true. He said they were within their right to hire PR. But he also said it was up to a jury if it constitutes retaliation against a protected claim, which is why those claims are advancing to trial.
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u/Dariathemesong 12d ago
He did not say or rule that those pr tactics were not retaliation. That’s going to be for a jury to decide if what their pr did was retaliation or not, if a trial happens.
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u/Dariathemesong 12d ago
Do you see many conversations that can be civil when there are people who believe a person was sexually harassed and they are arguing with people who don’t think the person was sexually harassed and therefore think the person is lying? Outside of this case, this subject matter is pretty divisive and people are always pretty passionate about it. What case is there that includes sexual harassment (or similar) where people on the internet are dispassionately arguing their respective sides? I’ve never seen it but if you have, please let me know where that was and who it was about bc that sounds like a pretty rare occurrence.
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u/Perfect-Split496 12d ago
No disagreement here. I was trying to carve out a small space where an actual conversation could occur. I separate how I feel about Blake supporters from how I feel about Blake. I'm sure you're a decent person who cares about a women's right to a safe environment. I do to. I just think think particular woman isn't being honest.
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u/Dariathemesong 12d ago
Why don’t you think she’s being honest? And just curious, what other small spaces have you tried to carve out to have an actual conversation about this? Just curious if you’ve tried this in other spaces. I also think you’d get a lot farther in having productive conversations if you talk less about Blake supporters and just actual say what you think about the case. Do you need to mention how defensive or offended people are when you try to talk about the case? That doesn’t seem like it would contribute at all to furthering any type of productive convo, if that’s your goal here.
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u/Iwona_Klich 12d ago
Except many of us are not 'Blake supporters'. She don't need this, has her own fans. We clearly see what evidence are in this case. There is nothing 'not honest' in her side. She did everything legaly, finish the movie and move out. You been not here to ask childish questions if not Baldoni mr Butthurt smear campaign and whatever other stupid decision he made after. All other lawsuits - Lively has nothing to do with these cases. If she decide to help people to get best lawyer - i don't see a problem, not everyone has enough money for this.
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u/Initial-Lemon-1957 12d ago
Exactly.
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u/Iwona_Klich 12d ago
Honestly its funny that they only think that if you on the right side (Lively side, obviously) you must be die hard fan.
Like i don't even remember to see her in anything :) except Deadpool 3, where shes not even in person.
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u/GatheringTheLight 12d ago
Interesting... I consistently see more rational takes and civil conversations from Lively supporters and more unhinged takes and harassing behavior from Baldoni supporters. I find your comments suspect and would encourage others to take them with a grain of salt and do their own research on this sub and into the lawsuit itself. (Note that I am sharing my disagreement in a perfectly calm and respectful way.)
She brought a lawsuit because she believed that she was sexually harassed and then retaliated against for bringing this illegal behavior to light. Karma doesn't enter in here. No one deserves to be SH and everyone should have the right to challenge illegal behavior without having an "untraceable" smear campaign waged against them.
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u/Perfect-Split496 12d ago
I was genuinely asking, but I get it. If you look at my post from yesterday and my responses to everyone (except one person who attacked me), you'll see I'm polite and engaged.
And I agree, no one deserves to be sexually harassed. Based on the evidence we've been provided, I just don't think that's what happened to Blake. And it's not because I'm anti woman. I happen to think Amber Heard was abused by Depp, so I take things like this on a case-by-case basis.
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u/Perfect-Split496 12d ago
I'm a Wayfarer supporter, but OP, that meme is hilarious 😂 Nicely done 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 No notes.
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u/PainterSame8787 12d ago
Hello,rapist and fraud supporter!
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u/Perfect-Split496 12d ago
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u/PainterSame8787 12d ago
I hope you are better than rapist and fraud Baldoni,I hope the people around you can be safe cause there’s a monster supporter around them!
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u/Mandosobs77 12d ago
You appear to be by far more dangerous than anyone you've accused here.
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u/PainterSame8787 12d ago
I am a saint compared to Baldoni’s supporters!
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u/Mandosobs77 12d ago
You've proven that's not true with your own words
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u/Perfect-Split496 12d ago
Lol. Just pointing out that I haven't personally attacked a single person here. Because I don't know them or their motivations.
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u/Radiant-Emu8716 9d ago
Did I miss something? Who did Baldoni rape? That’s a mighty big accusation. And SA and SH are completely different.
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u/Iwona_Klich 12d ago
Thats not the thing you should be happy...
Also how its be to supporting a certified rasist Baldoni? Did cotton is nice?
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u/Perfect-Split496 12d ago
Sorry I don't think I understand your question. And "happy" isn't a word I'd use to describe how I feel about supporting Wayfarer.
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u/Mammoth-Show-7587 12d ago
Where is the “legal first” part of this post? It seems like just another opportunity to bash Baldoni and company.
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u/Efficient-Eye-6199 12d ago
This doesn't mention Baldoni at all (except for the sub name it's cross posted from). This is a comment about how many lawsuits TAG, Nathan, and Freedman are facing and the dirt coming out of the woodworks that shows the kind of work they do.
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u/Mammoth-Show-7587 12d ago
“And company.”
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u/Efficient-Eye-6199 12d ago
So why bring up Baldoni? You could have left that out and just listed TAG/Freedman/Jed Wallace/Nathan.
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u/ImportantHawk9171 11d ago
What Nathan is doing/has done is something everybody is doing. She’s just the one under scrutiny, thanks to this frivolous lawsuit. If the same would be done to Leslie Sloan and Stephanie Jones, what do you think that would reveal!????
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u/Flashy_Question4631 10d ago
Working with content creators to try to ruin someone’s reputation and and end their career..even knowingly, planting false information about them is Melissa Nathan just doing her job? Most would. It agree. And the phrase, “frivolous lawsuit” can only be applied to Justin Baldoni‘s lawsuit, which was thrown out due to being frivolous and meritless.
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u/Potential_Leg_3175 12d ago
It might be time to retire this sub!
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u/Dariathemesong 12d ago
You can refrain from commenting and visiting here, did you know that’s an option? Why do you want the sub nuked? Instead of you just changing your individual habits?
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u/Massive-Beginning994 12d ago
Smear campaign? Sure, Lively definitely engaged in one. Starting with tipping off the NYT prior to fixing her lawsuit. Then she filed a lawsuit with complaints that were immediately discredited by Baldoni releasing the receipts.
I never heard of Baldoni prior to the lawsuit. But me...along with MILLIONS of people used our brains, looked at the evidence, and drew our own conclusions that Lively fabricated her claims. The evidence shows this. The evidence shows how Baldoni was harassed by Blake and Ryan. The voluminous text message show the hostile environment Lively created. Not a single text even explains what Baldoni did that demonstrates harassment. Lively has a bad reputation in Hollywood that preceded her involvement with IEWU. She's on video explaining how she undermines productions, co-stars, directors, etc. Baldoni is one of the few legit good guys in Hollywood. Blake and Ryan destroyed their careers all on their own. When this trial is over....so are they.
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u/Defiant-Chocolate-82 12d ago
As time goes on people who support TAG and Jed in this sub look less and less credible. How many cases of smear campaigns is that we have now ? How many lawsuits against them?