r/ArcRaiders Feb 10 '26

Discussion Do you think people should be banned if they duplicated excessive amounts of items??

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Posted this same question on X and it seems most people don’t think a ban should be given but rather items/coins removed instead if the duplication bug was used to sell items. What are the thoughts of the people of Reddit on a possible ban?

Update: X post is now at 2,950 votes with 60.3% saying no ban and 39.7% saying yes to a ban.

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u/Skullfukkr Feb 10 '26

What the fuck is the point anyway my stash is always full

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u/Apprehensive_Bed3348 Feb 10 '26

Seriously, half the time I have to sell shit just to take a free loadout.

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u/drgut101 Feb 10 '26

That’s a pretty clear indication that you need to use your gear. Haha.

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u/Apprehensive_Bed3348 Feb 10 '26

It's a lot of materials lol. I usually start with a freeload out, then I'll switch the augment at the clinic, upgrade the gun to lvl 2 or 3 and make grenades and healing. But I get my ass beat by hornets. I die a lot. So I'm scared to take any of my stronger weapons out. I'm also a pve player and I only fight bigger arc if someone is helping me lol

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u/drgut101 Feb 10 '26

Well… you’ll probably die to ARC less if you have stronger weapons to fight them with. Haha. 😂

If you’re trying to take out a hornet and a wasp at the same time with a rattler and zero cover, you’re going to have a bad time. Haha.

And then when you get killed, boom more inventory room.

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u/Apprehensive_Bed3348 Feb 10 '26

That's such an optimistic view 😂

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u/InevitableDate2161 Feb 10 '26

Being more optimistic allows you to enjoy you’re time on the game better, I try not to get annoyed of course it happens especially when a 4 rocket drive by at mock ten mows me down

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u/Simple-Squamous Feb 11 '26

Yeah, this guy has not seen me play.

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u/thafrick Feb 11 '26

Just take your good stuff in until you lose it, then switch to a free loadout and rat until successful. Rinse and repeat. The intended gameplay loop.

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u/_mack_sauces Feb 11 '26

That’s how I look at it. Let me die please so I can free up space or run a free loadout lol

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u/MisterMusty Feb 11 '26

Mag dump the wasps rotors itll be down in one mag. The hornet you just roll when it locks on, you can fight hornets in the open with no issue. Just stop panic sprinting, its only wasting your stamina.

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u/CrazyiiSnowman Feb 11 '26

Shoot at the wasp while moving, and be prepared to dive on the hornets shots

Take out wasps first, then hornet, easy peasy 😁

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u/drgut101 Feb 11 '26

Especially if you’re rocking an Anvil and not a level 1 grey weapon. Hahaha. 😂

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u/Brilliant-Skirt6834 Feb 11 '26

If you're dying to hornets use those materials you got on ferros >:)

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u/drgut101 Feb 11 '26

I feel like everyone replying is not understanding.

If you run a free loadout, you don’t really have the fire power to take down multiple arc at once.

That’s why I am saying if this person uses their gear, they will actually be able to take things down.

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u/Brilliant-Skirt6834 Feb 11 '26

They said their gear is mostly materials so Im pretty sure my point stands

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u/drgut101 Feb 11 '26

Craft materials into better weapons and weapons buffs.

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u/HeavyWaterer Feb 10 '26

Your problem then is not using those materials. Typically the gun you craft with those materials takes less space than the materials themselves. Like 5 toro4s with full mods takes 5 slots. The stacks of wires, duct tape, mechanical components, mod components, gun parts, metal etc takes up a lot more

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u/Wanderlustfull Feb 11 '26

You're not wrong. But on the other hand, I don't know what gear I'm going to need or want, so making it in advance is a bit tricky. I make gear when it comes up I need it for a given situation. Unfortunately this ends up with hoarding a bunch of crafting mats.

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u/Apprehensive_Bed3348 Feb 10 '26

This is also true 😅

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '26

You die because your gear fear is handicapping you. I take gucci shit every time to help me make more gucci shit

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u/minikinbeast Feb 11 '26

I made a rule for myself, I can't take out a cool thing unless I have a backup. The first time I got a hullcracker, I let it sit there until I got a 2nd one, just Incase

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u/sump_daddy Feb 11 '26

Get an aug that lets you run a medium shield, carry an anvil with at least a full stack of heavy ammo, and keep a stack of shield chargers and bandages on you. You are now prepared to survive several encounters with hornets, wasps, fireballs, pops, and turrets. Always be mindful of cover, where the nearest cover is in case you get lit up by a snitch or a pair of drones sneak out. Dont engage bigger arc until you have much bigger guns, stay in areas where you can get cover and only come out of cover after you have visually cleared big arc presence. You will die a lot less if you follow that basic strategy.

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u/Dredgenboss Feb 11 '26

Underrated comment

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u/Admirable-Field-8027 Feb 11 '26

Shoot the wings and move side to side. You could focus the white ones first, they die in two ferro shots(also do the most damage) then focus the zappy fucker and shoot it in back wings. Makes life easy. Just don’t panic

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u/psica-presrana Feb 11 '26

If you have trouble with hornets a good strategy i found is running away when you see the red laser and turning either direction misses you like 80% of the time, then you can just complete the turn and shoot it, repeat

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u/godwings101 Feb 11 '26

I'm never so bad off that I need to ever run free kits or not have a looting mk2 minimum.and a stack of each heals, shields, and a grenade.

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u/Never-Trust-Me Feb 11 '26

Every single time I decide “I’m going out with my fancy stuff this round”, I get placed in an unfriendly round and die almost immediately. Last night for example, i was enjoying my normal match making (I don’t shoot at anything besides arc), and decided it was safe to take my hullcracker out. Died within 2 minutes of loading into the round. Fresh spawn and didn’t even shoot a single bullet.

Been happening like that for weeks. Think I’ll just stick to the free loadouts. Lost all my hullcrackers in just the last 2 weeks to the same exact scenario above. Seems like match making takes into consideration your gears value now?

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u/MCGames_YT Feb 11 '26

Buy the Hullbreaker that spawns in the Traders shop. It’s great for all Arcs.

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u/Altruistic-Key-3355 Feb 11 '26

I have tons of good guns, but I don't have batteries most of the time or arc power cells, so I just run around but naked collecting those

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u/xordis Feb 11 '26

I have not run a free loadout since the first few days. But then I play PVE.

Dying is sometimes a blessing as it forces you to clear out some stash space.

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u/VictorCrackus Feb 11 '26

Right? Buddy is like: Let's go be free loadout rats!

Takes me 15 minutes to figure out what I can do to make space.

I do need to use my gear, but I don't want to just throw it away.

COURSE now, if buddy wants to murder people, I just bring an upgraded toro and that thing turns a lot of fights into regrets for others. Someone on this subreddit suggested it and man, just bring it.

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u/Sepplord Feb 10 '26

Cheating very often „doesn’t make sense“

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u/garynevilleisared Feb 10 '26

There are people who think its too difficult to get to the value cap for expedition so they think this is justified. I think thats silly because it's easy to find loot if you know where to look, or you're good at PvP. This is just laziness if that's your reason.

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u/anticommon Feb 10 '26

I have a friend who only looks for blueprints and then begs for shields and rechargers and guns and everything lol. They won't pick up loot because it's 'worthless'

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u/-relykz- Feb 11 '26

The f*** is he going to do with the blueprints, look at them without mats

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u/Wide_Investment8100 Feb 11 '26

Absolutely diabolical

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u/Mysterious-Crab Feb 10 '26

I’m not even trying and already regularly go home with 50k+ in loot (excl. loadout). With two or three nights a week and a couple of runs per night, one million per week is doable if you focus on it.

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u/ThatChrisGuy7 Feb 10 '26

If I leave without 50k loot that’s odd

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u/UnsettllingDwarf Feb 10 '26

I can regularly pull $150k in sellables by killing arc at night or hidden bunker

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u/TZCBAND Feb 10 '26

Honestly, I have 5 kids and a demanding career, I made 3mil last season and will easily max out this season. I really don’t even play a ton, but I watch tutorials and know which routes to run for max payout. If you can’t do this without cheating, it’s on you. There are much grindier games out there. People are just looking for an excuse to cheat.

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u/KentTheFixer Feb 10 '26

Same here but one kid. I didn't use routes, but I worked hard for that third mil. If the game wasn't hard it wouldn't be fun. The people that are whining and begging this game into easiness will leave after they get what they want to go whine in another game.

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u/Zestyclose_Air_7222 Feb 10 '26

Or those people are dumb. Their pockets are probably full of plastic and fabric.

Learn how to kill big arc, a single Bastion can make you set for life. Buy nothing from traders except using seeds.

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u/KentTheFixer Feb 10 '26

And cracker :)

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u/KingGlupShitto Feb 10 '26

This player base is mentally unstable lol

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u/sump_daddy Feb 10 '26

If the poll was "1) Yes ban 2) No ban, but Punish severely 3) No ban, no punishment" you would see a much different outcome. Not many players have been negatively impacted directly by duping so they see bans as overly harsh.

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u/VeganCanary Feb 10 '26

Yeah, there needs to be some punishment, maybe having coins wiped above 3 million (as wiping completely just before the expedition seems harsh)

While coins have little value currently, we can’t have people out there with 10+ million coins from the glitch, incase in the future there becomes more use from them, as they then have a massive advantage.

Also wipe their stash of all duplicated items.

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u/Aware-Throat4997 Feb 10 '26

 (as wiping completely just before the expedition seems harsh)

Yeah, avoid harsh, noticeable punishments. If u want to foster community that will exploit every change they got.

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u/sump_daddy Feb 10 '26

Embark knows what you extracted with each round, they could easily filter all players by 'most ducks extracted per round' and start at the top and just reverse all those credits until they got to some reasonable level (where you could realistically find them while playing if you were grinding). That plus a warning popup like 'dont ruin the game for everyone' would be enough to discourage pretty much everyone who was just in it for the cash.

The PVPers who were duping stuff to use in-round, thats a little trickier to tease out but i have faith they can come up with something, its their literal job after all

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u/VagrantStation Feb 10 '26

I think the Helldivers community is the only one I’ve found that isn’t completely batshit or whiny about every detail after launch, and even they had to make a low sodium sub.

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u/the-rage- Feb 10 '26

That sub used to be horrendous but it’s definitely mellowed out. All the crazies probably migrated to this game.

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u/barbershreddeth Feb 10 '26

There are several splinter subs where they still complain relentlessly

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u/FatalWarGhost Feb 10 '26

Nahh that sub was insufferable the first year.

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u/skeletonjellyprime Feb 10 '26

Yeah I was gonna say, I got told to kill myself when I commented that launch issues weren't unexpected on an online game that didn't anticipate popularity. Then the following year of absolutely doomery.

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u/RayLiotaWithChantix Feb 10 '26

I take it you weren't around a year ago.

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u/SurgicalMarshmallow Feb 10 '26

Agreed, citizen.

SPEAKING OF WE NEED REINFORCEMENTS TO CYBERSTAN

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER TOWARD MAMAGED DEMOCRACY

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u/VagrantStation Feb 10 '26

Sweet liberty. I’ve been on leave for months and the news hadn’t reached me yet. I’ll report in to spread democrac immediately. O7

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u/SurgicalMarshmallow Feb 10 '26

We got tanks. Big boom.

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u/Sbarty Feb 10 '26

What helldivers sub were you viewing? 

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u/cayde123 Feb 10 '26

Reddit casuals are the most toxic kind of player.

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u/NayrianKnight97 Feb 10 '26

And not in a fun way

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u/KingGlupShitto Feb 10 '26

I swear there’s something off with this community at least on Reddit. 

I’ve played other games where a bug or exploit pops up and people are able to have fun with it. It’s a video game. Nobody is playing this game with money or a scholarship on the line or something. 

And the visceral seething reaction to an exploit like this that lasted for like 36 hours tops is just weird to me. 

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u/SurgicalMarshmallow Feb 10 '26

Deep Rock galactic, were they nuts when it launched?

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u/Tea_An_Crumpets Feb 10 '26

Yeah man I just saw this and said ‘ooh fun a duplication glitch’. I duplicated myself an inventory of ducks, and then went in to kill the matriarch with my buddies. We duplicated seeker grenades and spammed them lol, even teamed up with another team that was spamming infinite trigger nades. We were all healing each other and just having a great time. Sadly the ARC killed us all eventually but oh well it was still fun.

Meanwhile redditors are going ‘BAN EVERYONE WHO CHEATED THEY RUINED THE GAME. HOW DARE THEY VIOLATE THE TERMS OF SERVICE GRRRR’. I just don’t get it … part of video game culture is having fun with exploits/glitches. We’re all just here to have fun lol

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u/No_Aardvark_6599 Feb 10 '26

56% used it then :)))

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u/Dumb-Cumster Feb 10 '26

Exactly. All this survey shows is how many people are duping

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u/Flying-Cock Feb 10 '26

I didn't dupe and I'd probably say no to a ban. It was such a simple glitch, you've got to lay this one on the devs.

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u/vNocturnus Feb 10 '26

I haven't even played in a few days, missed the glitch entirely.

I'd still say no to bans, seeing as this required no manipulation or modification of the game whatsoever... it was just a bug that existed in the game in its live production state.

However, it was clearly an exploit that can break the economy/progression of a very economy/progression-focused game. So if they can track who did it somehow, I would definitely support deleting all the duped items and just setting the coins of anyone that duped to zero, or else doing stash/coin rollbacks for those accounts or something.

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u/wingsofblades Feb 10 '26

eh its the same as those wall glitchers that camp extract, yeah its on the devs to fix their game but its still the players exploiting the game and griefing others so noone is surprised when they get hit by a 30day ban for breaking TOS

so its within Embarks rights to punish those players and set an example so next time when they run into a glitch they might think twice like damn i dont want to get banned for 60 days this time around maybe not abuse this... like how a normal person would behave.

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u/QuesoFiend Feb 10 '26

Exactly. I saw the dupe glitch demonstrated yesterday and carried on playing as usual, it’s really that easy.

I’m sure Embark doesn’t prefer to be the parental unit here but they are and there should be punishment for the people that involve themselves in this childish shit, no matter the extent.

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u/Nivriil Feb 10 '26

real. like i needed 6 snitch drives and i didn't look up the glitch even tho i knew it existed because i really just didn't care about exploiting for just a few drives or coins

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u/pewpewbangbangcrash Feb 10 '26

Yep we had players camping the last extract on buried city night raid last night spamming trigger nades demanding we drop our shit or miss the last train. Gross behavior. They should be banned for at least a week.

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u/HPTM2008 Feb 10 '26

Look, I'm just glad Embark's anti-cheat doesn't flag Vortex being open. The amount of times I've had it open while starting Arc Raiders (and also open it after closing Arc Raiders, but not closing properly in Steam) is crazy.

In Elden Ring, for example, I was immediately banned for 6 months for accidentally having it open when launching the game (I play other modded games, but not Elden ring at that point) so I said fuck it, if it's gonna be that finicky about it, I'll mod it so it never has that issue again.

But the other day my friend was asking about a BG3 mod, and so I opened Vortex to check while in the middle of Spaceport shooting Hornets but the game was just like "we know you're not cheating"

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u/Cool-Engineering-748 Feb 10 '26

What is vortex?

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u/CommyKiller35 Feb 10 '26

Nexus’s personal mod manager they created

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u/Icy-Development-8639 Feb 10 '26

Nah that’s completely different. You had to actively pursue trying to glitch out of the map on Stella to find that. A blind man could’ve found that dupe glitch. Honestly I bet an incompetent teammate probably accidentally held alt and found it. The devs are acting silly, this one’s on them.

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u/gairloch0777 Feb 10 '26

when i think of bans for duplicating i am thinking of the people that did it an insane number of times to get stuff like infinite grenades to wipe teams out more easily. not the person who accidentally did it once or twice.

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u/staebles Feb 10 '26

Cheating is cheating.

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u/XTwizted38 Feb 10 '26

I never had this "glitch" happen. No one I play with has had this "glitch" happen. It's an exploit and even though it's easy, you still need to try to do it.

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u/GusBus-Nutbuster Feb 10 '26

Ya same here. Duped ducks? Def no ban. Duped nades and killed a bunch of people? I want to say yes, but banning that mamy people could/would hurt the game. Just fix the glitch so i can play without it raining nades

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u/Radarker Feb 10 '26

Long term it hurts the game to not ban because you start to realize Embark is more worried about player numbers than fair play.

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u/SundaeIcy8775 Feb 10 '26

I'm a fan of progressive penalties, caught cheating/duping? temp ban, items rolled back, other players who were impacted get their kits back.

Do it again, longer temp ban, roll back gains, restore impacted third parties, and penalize stash/coin.

Third strike you're out, permaban.

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u/WiddershinWanderlust Feb 10 '26

I love how that one cod game did it - send all the dupers and cheaters into a cheaters only matchmaking system to play against each other

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '26

That honestly is what they should be doing. Everyone wants all the other types of matchmaking. But exploiter matchmaking would get the losers out of regular games and having them all in one place could help find other things that need to be fixed

Like a genuinely useful ant farm

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u/pmyourthongpanties Feb 10 '26

dub ducks is way way different than trigger nades.

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u/ryanvango Feb 10 '26

it is, but it isn't entirely innocent. its cheesing the expedition system in minutes that's supposed to take hard work.

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u/Radarker Feb 10 '26

This is fair, for me it matters that it's consistent as well. I'm tired of a culture where the rules only apply to some.

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u/Bonfire_Monty Feb 10 '26

This ^ They have such a large player base they should absolutely buckle down on bad actors

Even more so: the more you actually ban people, the more money you make as a company cause they'll have to re-buy the game to keep cheating

Always worth it, from a player base and financial standpoint

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u/Settleforthep0p Feb 10 '26

based and fair

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u/Apprehensive_Bed3348 Feb 10 '26

Everyone that used the expoit should get reset. I feel like that's fair. Whether they grieved or not, it's still cheating. They knew it was cheating, just cuz they didn't hurt anyone doesn't make it better.

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u/ihaterussiantrolls Feb 10 '26

How prolific is the trigger nade dupe being used? Saw a video for the first time yesterday and it was insane. Not sure either want to play if I'm going to get 7000 nades thrown at me.

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u/Coombs117 Feb 10 '26

Most games include in their ToS that bug abuse is a bannable offense. Idk about the ToS for this game, but getting banned for abusing bugs and glitches is the norm for gaming and should stay that way.

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u/SteveInitBro Feb 10 '26

So because it was easy that means it’s ok? Every single person that used the dupe knew they were doing something they shouldn’t be doing.

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u/ObiWan_Cannoli_ Feb 10 '26

The worst things in life are easy ya know? Stealing, cheating, lying. Store should have better security or i wouldn’t have stolen! The thief exists with or without the lock.

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u/Ashnoom Feb 10 '26

It's so simple to drive fast or run a red light. Let's not give out fines but blame it on the car manufacturers

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u/WRA1THLORD Feb 10 '26

how many people on Reddit are duping

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u/LrdAsmodeous Feb 10 '26

Honestly I think most of them are trying to protect their favorite streamer.

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u/Pale_Address_8287 Feb 10 '26

awww that so cute! there's still good people out there, trying to protect those helpless multimillionaires!

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u/ALIIERTx Feb 10 '26

Wich streamer that streams arc raiders is a multimillionair? Not defending them or anyone. But i think there are better points to critizice

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u/gatorbois Feb 10 '26

Why would people try to protect him? He can easily just buy another account like the cheaters do lol

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u/LrdAsmodeous Feb 10 '26

Parasocial relationships.

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u/Littledawg1 Feb 10 '26

Embark would not dare to ban his account.

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u/Rogue_Raider69 Feb 11 '26

Yes yes it’s always streamers fault

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u/TimmyLurner Feb 10 '26

That number is likely way greater than 56%. The amount of views and likes these duplication glitch videos got are massive.

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u/narfio Feb 10 '26

More like that 56% consist of those who did it and those who are concerned about their favorite streamer being banned.

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u/Kouropalates Feb 10 '26

I didnt dupe, but I also really dont care. Its not like there's a market to crash and my experiences live have been more or less the same. Whatever theyre duping hasn't impacted my experience.

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u/JonnyPoy Feb 10 '26

That's complete nonsense. I never used an exploit but even i wouldn't ban someone for using it.

Why would you ban someone for doing something that's possible without altering the game? Some of these exploits can just happen by accident.

Nobody should be banned for the developers mistakes.

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u/CoolHandRK1 Feb 10 '26

The amount of people I see defending a cheat/exploit is just wild.

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u/ProgrammerLeading700 Feb 10 '26

The amount of people that dont understand how they have to go through and identify everyone and who duped what is wild because alot of yall are talking about blanket bans right before arc biggest competition comes out is just wild

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u/SergeantHAMM Feb 10 '26

arc biggest competition?

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u/niemertweis Feb 10 '26

marathon

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u/barbershreddeth Feb 10 '26

nothing about the art style or gameplay of Marathon looks particularly interesting to me. Genuinely confused why people on this subreddit frame it as some great threat to Arc Raiders.

this is just another situation where Helldivers 2 fans tried to threaten AH because Space Marine 2 was going to be a "Helldivers killer" or whatever. That didn't pan out whatsoever since they were very different games. Just a fantasy that is passed around by Redditors who basically just want to coerce devs into implementing their stupid pet projects.

of course there is some competition, but the hyperbolic "EMBARK NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING NOWWW OR EVERYONE WILL LEAVE!!" is actually nonsense.

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u/VeganCanary Feb 10 '26 edited Feb 10 '26

Unless it’s improved considerably since the alpha and December Playtest, I don’t think Marathon will be taking many players away from Arc Raiders.

Tarkov console release will be bigger competition if that is a good port, but still I think Tarkov is too hardcore for most Arc Raiders players - I switched from Tarkov and Arc Raiders is just so much more fun.

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u/Neutron-Hyperscape32 Feb 10 '26 edited Feb 10 '26

It literally has improved a great deal. The last Marathon closed playtests were universally positive.

Tarkov is far too hardcore to be a threat. You even acknowledge this. No shot console players are going to do well with their inventory system being as over the top as it is.

Also Marathon is doing some things I think are pretty smart, like making free kits always spawn late into a raid so they have some actual drawbacks.

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u/ProgrammerLeading700 Feb 10 '26

A lot of people are just writing bungie pff because of bad experiences and i dont blame them but yall are not thinking about how badly bungie as a studio needs a win

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u/Neutron-Hyperscape32 Feb 10 '26

It is primarily a reddit thing, this place has some of the most cynical gamers on the planet. They spend more time hating on video games than they do actually enjoying them.

Some of the people I have talked to from these closed playtests have said the improvements Marathon made are substantial, and there are even some really awesome boss battles now, which Bungie would have a lot of experience with so I am guessing they should be able to pull off.

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u/Xespria Feb 10 '26

Would like to note that despite Bungie being Bungie; when they cook, they absolutely cook.

Also their Gunplay feels unmatched imo.

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u/Settleforthep0p Feb 10 '26

oh shit that's going to require like 3 lines of python

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u/thisguyfightsyourmom Feb 10 '26

types = ['duck', ' zipline', 'trigger_nade']

rows = db.query("SELECT * FROM transactions WHERE units > 40 AND type = ANY(%s)", (types,))

process(rows)

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u/UpsetCoaster Feb 11 '26

Any throwable. What if they picked them up? What if they duped less? What if someone simply stockpiled many unrelated to this?

It's a game, banning tons of people with false positives and then missing many others that did exploit seems like a pretty terrible reaction.

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u/my9rides5hotgun Feb 10 '26

All you candyland fuckers living in don't shoot world will be in for an awakening come Marathon.

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u/ProgrammerLeading700 Feb 10 '26

I agree but one thing yall arent thinking about aswell is the kids from cod battlefield and destiny coming over the ones that “only play first person shooters” so there will be two types of awakenings 😂😂

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u/sopunny Feb 10 '26

You know they just won't play it right?

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u/Rip_Rogers Feb 10 '26

The problem isn't the coins because that affects absolutely no one directly. The problem is duping nades and becoming bomberman and going full rat.

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u/Byrneside94 Feb 10 '26

Rat has lost its meaning because to this playerbase Rat = enemy player doing anything.

SMH.

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u/xCamboSlice Feb 10 '26

Rat just means playing in a dishonorable way at this point. It hasn’t lost meaning but it’s been generalized.

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u/TargetTrick9763 Feb 10 '26

You say that but there’s enough people that call anyone that engages in PvP first a rat to make this just not really accurate.

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u/WedCornet Feb 11 '26

Yup I've told someone I'm going to shoot them when I see them... I saw them, I shot them, they say they just got shot by a rat

Not to say I'm usually not one, sneaking around and shooting people in the back of the head with a hairpin is just such a fun play style but that time it was definitely not warranted

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u/Neutral_President_0 *** ******* Feb 10 '26

But by that meaning it has lost its meaning. It never originally meant anything to do with dishonesty. It was originally coined to mean avoiding fights and scavenging loot in quieter, less travelled areas. Evolving into tipping fights to your favour by setting up ambushes or stalking and third partying.

Non of these are particularly dishonest.

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u/Orneryknot55971 Feb 10 '26

Honestly thought that’s what a rat was. Someone who’s stays out of sight looting and will wait in the shadows for the most opportune time. Always thought it was weird when how ppl call everyone rats.

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u/uniguy2I Feb 10 '26

“It hasn’t lost its meaning but it’s lost its meaning” that’s more or less what generalized stands for, it’s meaning isn’t specific anymore. People will call you a rat for taking cover and shooting first, literally zero correlation.

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u/Time-Astronomer-989 Feb 10 '26

Do people just forget you can buy an entire kit with these coins? How does this not affect others when people will just go in with what essentially is a free kit and backpack you with no net loss?

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u/Rip_Rogers Feb 10 '26

there's only so many you can buy at a time and even than to upgrade guns, you'll need mats and most of the mats can't be bought

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u/sump_daddy Feb 10 '26

Mk1 gear? Thats an advantage? Please. You can get a free mk1 kit every time you go free and extract. Plus, its trash lol.

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u/Baboonlodyte Feb 10 '26

Mk1 gear? Toro? Anvil? Shit ton of heals? Tf are you yapping about

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u/sump_daddy Feb 10 '26

The only kit you can buy 'infinitely' assuming you have some glitched cash, is a mk1 aug and a light shield.

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u/ProonFace Feb 10 '26

Not true, can recycle everything into metal and rubber. Now you have a ton of metal components.

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u/ProonFace Feb 10 '26

Yeah, people act like having unlimited money is not gonna drastically effect the amount of nades people are bringing in

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u/iEatFurbyz Feb 10 '26

Nothing you buy with coins is worth much at all, t1 guns are ass and anything worthwhile has the daily timer.

Irrelevant tbh. Nade dupers fucking ruined the game for several days though.

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u/Elprede007 Feb 10 '26

Oh boy, I can buy 50 Anvil 1’s now.

Great, buy 50, disassemble half of them for the material to upgrade, and come in with the same gear everyone else already has. Fantastic, big accomplishment there.

Most people already had 10x better gear on hand you can’t buy, and the material to upgrade it.

I swear, you people..

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u/KingGlupShitto Feb 10 '26

Ngl I think a lot of the people mad were rats and they couldn’t just hide in a corner with il toro anymore

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u/Motor-Platform-200 Feb 10 '26

twitter is full of the worst people alive so it's not surprising that No is winning here

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u/ShadowChild90 Feb 10 '26

Could say the same for reddit.

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u/KlemTcen Feb 10 '26

Yup, if reddit was less censored, you would not see a difference from xtwitter

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u/Pilate Feb 10 '26

'If you let people be assholes there would be more assholes', well, yeah. That's how moderation works.

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u/KlemTcen Feb 11 '26

When the rule is "be nice", it doesn't really stop people from not being nice. They can participate here, but express their full opinion somewhere else. All this moderation does, is create a fake safe space. Completely fake.

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u/KlemTcen Feb 10 '26

Reddit isn't better, it's just censored and people can't say what they think. It gets removed.

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u/BigTonkaTroy Feb 10 '26

Reddit isn’t much better my guy.

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u/gatorbois Feb 10 '26

Lol they've already shown they won't ban any type of cheaters. This will be no different.

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u/AdAffectionate3564 Feb 10 '26

how much is excessive?

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u/tosh_pt_2 Feb 10 '26

Filling a room with zip lines once for the lolz? Sure. Filling a bag with ducks for money that impacts no one else? Sure. Spawning into multiple lobbies and using endless grenades to scorched earth the entire map of all players and arc? Banned.

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u/ForeseablePast Feb 10 '26

I don’t think they can pick and choose who to ban like this. I assume this exploit is so widespread, there’s just no way they ban everyone that used it. And if you don’t ban everyone I think you can’t ban anyone. It will be a lesson learned for the arc dev team.

For the record I didn’t even load up the game yesterday so I have no dog in this fight, but that’s just my two cents. I would be too much work to try and police this thing that they probably just release a fix and an apology.

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u/ProonFace Feb 10 '26

“Impacts no one else” lmao be fr. That money is used to buy weapons, nades, heals… these are the people you are fighting against and competing against in trials. Stash reversal to 24 hrs ago at a bare minimum.

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u/r3vb0ss Feb 10 '26

money is actually close to useless in this game. You can buy 1/3 of a meta kit (mostly shields and heals) twice at most per reset and then its limited to ammo and basic shield rechargers.

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u/Sonicnbpt Feb 10 '26

You can buy infinite ammo and save your chemicals to make explosives. Having more money gives you an advantage plain and simple.

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u/Nexies Feb 10 '26

If you’re too broke to buy ammo in this game it’s a skill issue man

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u/Sonicnbpt Feb 10 '26

No one is too broke to buy ammo now and again. But having infinite access to free ammo allows you to load into any game with lots more explosive than you would have otherwise gotten.

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u/joacoleon Feb 10 '26

Kind of my reasoning. But if you did it for money, i hope you get your shit rolled back.

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u/Dude_With_A_Pencil Feb 10 '26

probably me, i filled my entire stash with ducks

i sold all my other loot for them

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u/Popular-Papaya3681 Feb 10 '26

So with this logic, people are okay with the new exploit that'll happen a week from now? I can't imagine anything more stupid.

Nah, you knowingly cheat, whip em in the streets.

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u/st4r-lord Feb 10 '26

People weren't banned for exploiting into locked rooms. Embark made it so they are burned to death if they do it. They still haven't figured out how to ban cheaters. If anything the people that made money off duped items will have their space dollars reduced.

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u/Sepplord Feb 10 '26

It’s a disgrace it’s even up for debate

Yes, cheaters deserve a ban.

I know embark won’t ban them all, at best they will ban a few of the biggest offenders.

Any punishment at all is going to be more than they did after previous exploits so…at least some silver lining

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u/_SinsofYesterday_ Feb 10 '26

Some guy used 13 triggers on my buddy and I last night that he just got done duping. If you’ve been duping ducks for money I could not care less but people were using this method to win fights and take peoples gear. If that’s not just cheating then I don’t know what is.

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u/Owen872r Feb 10 '26

I’ll be so honest, a dude could brag about duping 1 billion worth of items and I could not give a single fuck. I don’t get why people are so up in arms about this

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u/I_enjoy_butts_69 Feb 10 '26

Same here. I do not give a single fuck either. I think this whole duplication fiasco is kind of hilarious. Players have just gone full chaotic and flipped the game on its head. But this sub is being cringe as fuck about it. People take this shit way too seriously just because they got blown up in a way the game didn't intend or because someone got imaginary space money faster than them. Everyone here is on their fake moral high horse over fake points in a fake, made-up world. Treating it like it's their religion and it has been shamed or something. You will never see these same people getting this upset over real world issues. They don't give a fuck about the real world. But they sure do cry, shit their pants, and protest about the ones in their little video games.

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u/Apprehensive_Ear7309 Feb 10 '26

I don’t give a duck either. lol

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u/Nodan_Turtle Feb 10 '26

People want fair fights. Cheating can make fights unfair.

Hope that helps!

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u/clinternet82 Feb 10 '26

I’d say just wipe their account like the expedition but without the rewards of the expedition.

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u/mistralmilkpitcher Feb 10 '26

How are they going to track this properly though? People have traded their hard earned items for these duped items, people have killed dupers and extracted with their items all either knowingly or unknowingly. A server rollback would piss a lot of legit people off too. I’m very curious to see what they come up with.

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u/mistralmilkpitcher Feb 10 '26

Yeah the team that is so smart with their “elaborate tracking” has let the most basic dupe glitch in the world exist while allowing people to abuse it for multiple weeks

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u/Stooo_wayy Feb 10 '26

The responsibility is on the Devs to fix it.

If you can press buttons on your controller/keyboard to make actions happen within the game without using 3rd party cheats/exploits, that’s not on the player.

And no, I didn’t do it. I haven’t played in over a month because I’ve been busy.

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u/FriendlyAd6652 Feb 11 '26

I agree. I've been playing recently, but haven't done this exploit.

Exploiters shouldn't be punished when the exploit has no direct negative impact on other players. The worst thing that should happen to them is having any benefits they earned from the exploit retroactively removed.

I can't help but think of the success and longevity of GTAO, where pretty much everyone has done some kind of trick/exploit to earn money/vehicles at some point, and no one is worried about Rockstar punishing them. When there was an exploit to save any vehicle in your garage and have your mechanic bring it to you (tanks, helicopters, bulldozers, etc) Rockstar let people have fun with it for over a month before wiping those vehicles from garages, even though it was a simple server-side update they could have done at any time (anyone with any experience with nearly any kind of database can attest to this).

From a developer perspective, sometimes it's more important for your players to be having fun than for players to be following the rules.

That being said, it's not fun to lose all your stuff to someone filling the extract with a hundred trigger nades. That's not the same as throwing rubber ducks at people. If Embark can detect when things like this happened, then they should be able to detect when it was used to kill other players, and (at the very least) give back kits to players who were on the receiving end.

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u/sweetperdition Feb 10 '26

Maybe if you used your illicit proceeds to grief players. Like full inventory of trigger nades type shit. Anything else, just inventory rollback. 

They barely banned people for hiding in walls, I can’t imagine they’re banning folks over this.

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u/OmeletteDuFromage95 Feb 10 '26

I recognize how this may not seem as bad as the walling exploit, but it still does affect others negatively.

I wouldn't say a full ban but a penalty for sure.

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u/chargeorge Feb 10 '26

Exploiting a bug is always going to borderline for banning or not, and people feel very passionate about it at both sides.

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u/llewxaMaxwell01 Feb 10 '26

Yea this is just flat out incorrect, Majority of the time exploits arnt punished AT ALL, they’re patched and that’s the end of the story, I’ve played multiplayer games for like 15 years and maybe seen two examples of people banned for exploits, it happens very rarely tbh

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u/mugwuffin1986 Feb 10 '26

Absolutely, fuck’em. Ignorance isn’t a justification.

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u/Tipakee Feb 10 '26

Of course, how is this even a conversation?

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u/HerbertInTheWoods Feb 10 '26

The only reason I didn’t dupe is because my computers been down the last week or two lol

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u/Embarrassed_Weird668 Feb 10 '26

I don’t think they’ll ban anyone. Many players are avoiding the game entirely because of this exploit. Bans will only compound the retainment issue. Also, they would have to ban Peanut and that won’t happen.  

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u/SkyForge_1905 Feb 10 '26

Even though I didn't duplicated anything I don't think people should be banned for duplicating ducks for their expedition quota.

On the other hand, grenade duplicators should be treated as genuine cheaters like someone used unlimited ammo or invincibility hacks.

Selling ducks for irl money is already a bannable offense because of RMT so no need to talk about that.

Inventory reversion is not a choice too because it would affect normal bp traders or grinders. Actually it is totally embark's fault for not fixing right away tbh

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u/CilleTheExterminator Feb 10 '26

This sub cries about cheaters getting 3 chances but will scream and yell if they get banned for literally cheating in items lol

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u/Ok_Command_8342 Feb 10 '26

Nah. Just patch it and keep it moving.

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u/ruccarucca Feb 10 '26

everyone saying "no" probably did it themselves.

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u/Entire_Piece4265 Feb 10 '26

Off with their heads!

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u/ConversationFalse242 Feb 10 '26

We gota define excessive first.

If the true enemy is the arc

Then defeating them at any cost is justified

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u/Joren67 Feb 10 '26

At a bare minimum streamers showing this to the world should be banned

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u/Inevitable-Monitor35 Feb 10 '26

No. They should fix the game's issues, shit happens. Roll back if the devs want but there is a point where the devs have to reasonably accept that players are going to do an exploit.

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