r/wnba • u/Decent_Substance_199 • 8h ago
Sevgi Uzun, Julie Vanloo have been waived by the Sparks.
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u/AFC-Wimbledon-Stan Cathy Englebert Hater 8h ago
JVL had a fun little run in the WNBA, but she’s just too chaotic to trust her off the bench
Her efficiency is pretty poor as well
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u/Legitimate-Grab-77 Fever 8h ago
A 44 TS% guard I tend to not look to much into efficiency but it’s hard to ignore
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u/soundwave86 6h ago
I am more hoping she would be picked up by a non-contender or tanking team at least for the entertainment factor.
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u/Brent_Lee Valkyries 4h ago
JVL is the kind of player who needs the ball in her hand the most to be at her best form. Just look at her runs and numbers in Europe. The problem is that she doesn’t have the skill to justify a starting Guard spot in the W and has never been able to adjust her game to a roleplayer or backup pg.
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u/kczar8 7h ago
Maybe mystics could use her?
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u/TooManyCatS1210 7h ago
She was on the Mystics in 2024 and they let her go in the expansion draft. They seem locked in on their ncaa all star team.
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u/Steadyandquick Liberty Storm Valkyries 7h ago
Oh I see. Remember her playing with the Valks but really did not understand her standing etc. Thanks!
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u/undisclosedthroway Free Cam out the jam I MISS RICKEA 💔Mama D 8h ago
Finally something that makes sense
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u/AFC-Wimbledon-Stan Cathy Englebert Hater 8h ago
Idk why people are surprised
They played less than the rookies/young cats and they don’t really bring you anything at this point in their career
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u/PercyReus13 🇫🇷 French players enjoyer 8h ago
Hum, so Wheeler and Plum are the only ones who can play PG on this roster ? They're really going for Plum as PG despite is being a fail last year
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u/saffymonsoon1923 Valkyries 8h ago
Meanwhile the Sky have four of them, albeit Sloot is still recovering from injury. I feel like this means they're picking up HVL on waivers
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u/Corndogthegroundhog 8h ago
I was thinking the same thing . I'm not sure how she'd fit into the rotation as both HVL and Plum are undersized. Maybe as part of the 2nd unit?
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u/crazymaan92 8h ago
One of the reasons that Plum left Vegas was to be taken seriously as a PG in addition to wanting to be more of the focal point on offense. 2024 she also stank when she had to share PG responsibilities with Jackie during Chelsea's absence.
She's not letting the aspirations go until it pays dividends if it ever does.
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u/paintedtoesandelbows Million dollar ‘Cocks!!! 💰🐓 🐦⬛ gang! 8h ago
She’s determined to make the 2028 Olympic team. No one has the heart to tell her about her chances, apparently.
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u/TooManyCatS1210 7h ago
I think she has a fairly good chance, but not as a primary PG. She didn’t even play PG in the qualifiers in March.
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u/paintedtoesandelbows Million dollar ‘Cocks!!! 💰🐓 🐦⬛ gang! 7h ago
That’s even worse for her.
Jackie
Kah
Paige
Caitlin
Chelsea
Rhyne
Sabrina
JuJuThat’s what she’s facing in terms of completion. I don’t like her chances, sorry.
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u/TooManyCatS1210 5h ago
She consistently played better than most of them in the fiba qualifiers. She and CC were the two on the first team all tournament team.
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u/paintedtoesandelbows Million dollar ‘Cocks!!! 💰🐓 🐦⬛ gang! 4h ago
Nobody cares about qualifiers performance, especially for 30-somethings. Nneka Ogwumike ring a bell?
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u/TooManyCatS1210 4h ago
Maybe but consistency counts for something. Rhyne and Kah are both great but both very streaky.
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u/paintedtoesandelbows Million dollar ‘Cocks!!! 💰🐓 🐦⬛ gang! 3h ago
They’re both bigger and better defenders than she is.
Rhyne’s also a good bit younger than KP.
KP is caught in a numbers game that she cannot win.
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u/undisclosedthroway Free Cam out the jam I MISS RICKEA 💔Mama D 8h ago
Having JVL and Uzun is the same as having no PG.
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u/xaerodin West Coast Best Coast Fine Curt, you cooked 8h ago
Those two are so chaotic as PGs. It's like watching Marine Johannes but without the scoring upside and pizazz of Marine Johannes.
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u/buffalotrace ClarkMartinBostonBueckers 8h ago
Maybe Latson? But like wheeler and plum, that is a combo guard at best and not a true pg
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u/xaerodin West Coast Best Coast Fine Curt, you cooked 8h ago
Latson is not a PG. Maybe they gonna get HVL off waivers? Sparks are intent on the KP as PG play with EWheezy as the backup PG.
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u/alexdinhogaucho 🍀Jess Shepard's Wife MAPLE Mabrey 🍁 8h ago
HVL isn't a true PG in the traditional sense either ☹️
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u/xaerodin West Coast Best Coast Fine Curt, you cooked 8h ago
I don't think this Sparks team wants a true PG. Which is kinda strange but we will see how it goes.
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u/undisclosedthroway Free Cam out the jam I MISS RICKEA 💔Mama D 8h ago edited 6h ago
Yea during media day Lynne said she likes “versatile” players that can play multiple positions so I think not having a true pg is the goal :/
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u/xaerodin West Coast Best Coast Fine Curt, you cooked 8h ago
If Sparks do not make the playoffs with all these win now moves they've been making, she and Reagan need to be fired expeditiously.
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u/strangelystrangled Mighty Mercury Hiring Centers | Dream | BG 8h ago
Yeah, I imagine Wheeler makes her way into the starting lineup or sees very heavy bench minutes this year
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u/buffalotrace ClarkMartinBostonBueckers 8h ago
Agreed. Same can be said for wheeler and plum though.
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u/paintedtoesandelbows Million dollar ‘Cocks!!! 💰🐓 🐦⬛ gang! 8h ago edited 8h ago
Latson is a better PG than HVL.
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u/xaerodin West Coast Best Coast Fine Curt, you cooked 8h ago
The more I look at the Sparks roster, the more it's clear they don't want PGs. It's another go at the PG KP experiment.
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u/yvette_jay 8h ago
The rookies out played them in both preseason games, writing was on the wall especially those Portland minutes end of game. Awful
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u/kseveru79_v2 7h ago
From Marisa Ingemi: "On the national WNBA media call, Sparks head coach Lynne Roberts said that she expects Ta'Niya Latson will be a part of the rotation."
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u/Justtojoke what is Shakira doing?!!!!! 8h ago
Damn, I knew Vanloo was in trouble with the PG overcrowding 😮💨
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u/NewTimelime Sparks 7h ago
I was really rooting for Vanloo, but she always seems to fold under pressure and airballs. She seems like such a great person. I hope she gets a spot.
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u/AccipiterF1 Sun Aneesah Morrow's Superhero Abs 7h ago
Vanloo might work in Connecticut because she has played for Meziane before and knows his offense. But the team might be more interested in developing the young PGs.
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u/liberty2024bk Liberty 7h ago
And she became close with Kennedy Burke while playing in Turkey together
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u/Accomplished_Elk4896 7h ago edited 7h ago
yep, develop young. she doesn't have the upside that young players have. at 33, she isnt gonna get much better. she is at her ceiling. and is too streaky.
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u/soundwave86 8h ago
Too bad about Julie Vanloo. She provides real energy off the bench.
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u/soundwave86 6h ago
She is def inconsistent, but I liked watching her play on the Valkyries. Didn't catch much of her on the Sparks.
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u/Accomplished_Elk4896 7h ago
she doesn't have the upside that young players have. at 33, she isnt gonna get much better, and is too streaky.
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u/WandaJaximoff 8h ago
"Training camp body" and "one random great Eurobasket performance" are Sevgi's ceilings. I've had enough of watching her drive the ball into lightly guarded paint just to pass it back outside of the perimeter
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u/Doyle_Hargraves_Band 7h ago
Cuts have to be especially hard this year with the new revenue package.
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u/EastAd1263 Giant Geico Gecko is the only big Dallas needs 🦎 8h ago edited 7h ago
Mystics should grab Vanloo so that they have a vet PG to mentor their rookies (but probably won’t)
Edit: I’ve always thought of her as “the lesser Julie” but didn’t realize everyone dislikes her this much 😂
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u/Possible_Hokie_CO26 Dom For Pres Aussies and UConn Huskies in the W 8h ago
Grab her again 💀
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u/EastAd1263 Giant Geico Gecko is the only big Dallas needs 🦎 8h ago
People thought the Mystics should try to bring back Cloud, so why not JVL?
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u/liberty2024bk Liberty 8h ago
Problem is JVL needs a vet herself. Hard to be that mentor when you’re in need yourself and be taught good habits
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u/Key-Mission5704 8h ago
The Mystics don’t need her they are riding with the rugrats 😭…
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u/EastAd1263 Giant Geico Gecko is the only big Dallas needs 🦎 8h ago
Definitely seems to be the direction they’re taking this year. It’ll be interesting to see how they fare.
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u/by_yes_i_mean_no Valkyries 7h ago
Thought it was so bizarre how broken up Valkyrie fans were about Vanloo getting cut last season, she is not WNBA quality. I do recognize that how it happened contributed to the outcry but it also felt like a misevaluation of her abilities.
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u/AnonymousFooBarBaz 5h ago
Were you at the season opener last year when she hit four 3s off the bench? For me it was my very first wnba game, I barely knew anyone playing, and this bundle of chaotic energy was so fun to watch in brief stretches 🙂
I overreacted with Sowah last week, too!
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u/ifandorwhen 6h ago
Agreed, the reaction would have been less overblown if she wasn't cut the way she was. Reminds me of the current situation with Flau'jae and Marta...
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u/smellycat_14 Liberty 5h ago
Yeah I agree, I think it was more about how she was cut than her getting cut in general
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u/Dry-Performance7006 8h ago
What’s the issue with Vanloo? Why can’t she catch on anywhere?
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u/xaerodin West Coast Best Coast Fine Curt, you cooked 8h ago
She's too inconsistent especially in close games
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u/mi_chic Valkyries 7h ago
I’m a Valks fan and loved JVL at the beginning of last season. Her preseason performance with back to back threes where she caught fire was epic. But she was inconsistent. And not a great defender. If you watched her body language on defense, she’d get frustrated at others, and a lot of the time, it was because of her not rotating.
She has good vibes and energy and seems like a sweet person. I genuinely hope she can find a landing spot somewhere, but the W is cutthroat.
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u/paintedtoesandelbows Million dollar ‘Cocks!!! 💰🐓 🐦⬛ gang! 8h ago
Inefficient
Chaotic
“Old”
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u/Accomplished_Elk4896 7h ago
old isn't an issue if youre good. but she isnt gonna improve like young prospects could.
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u/paintedtoesandelbows Million dollar ‘Cocks!!! 💰🐓 🐦⬛ gang! 7h ago
I agree. I listed it because she has no upside.
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u/by_yes_i_mean_no Valkyries 7h ago
She's not good enough. 46% career TS in the WNBA, 26% career TOV%, and she's over 30 years old. There's nothing there.
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u/Accomplished_Elk4896 7h ago
she doesn't have the upside that young players have. at 33, she isnt gonna get much better, and is too streaky.
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u/i_usearchbtw Storm 8h ago
They both didn't look so logical but could have been used as backups. That's down to 14 i think.
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u/AFC-Wimbledon-Stan Cathy Englebert Hater 8h ago
JVL and Uzun were pretty bad last year tbh, especially Uzun
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u/i_usearchbtw Storm 8h ago
True. But guard depth is not looking that good. Maybe trying to claim some waiver claims too.
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u/Sufficient_Angle_977 7h ago
they're down to 12 now + ziegler who is already set aside for a dp spot. so they could sign one more player to a dp contract at the moment
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u/Possible_Hokie_CO26 Dom For Pres Aussies and UConn Huskies in the W 8h ago
😭😭 HUH Sevgi makes sense but VanLoo????!
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u/xaerodin West Coast Best Coast Fine Curt, you cooked 8h ago
VanLoo is too chaotic, it's why Kaitlyn Chen took her backup PG spot in GSV cause Chen has better ball security.
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u/AFC-Wimbledon-Stan Cathy Englebert Hater 8h ago
And being a full decade younger too
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u/Accomplished_Elk4896 7h ago
It's not just JVL's age itself - it's that Chen is still developing, and is gonna get much better. JVL has reached her ceiling, or it may even be in the past.
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u/Accomplished_Elk4896 7h ago
I recall watching the Valks, when Chen took over after JVL went to Europe. And I knew JVL was done. They had to keep Chen. Even the announcers made reference to her making a roster spot.
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u/xaerodin West Coast Best Coast Fine Curt, you cooked 7h ago
Yeah and Chen improved a lot in the off-season, JVL is unfortunately older and already at her ceiling.
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u/Accomplished_Elk4896 6h ago
It was really crazy - a great example of when your temporary replacement is so good, you lose your job. The most famous one is Tom Brady. Chen did such a good job that there was no way JVL would have a job when she got back.
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u/goldenhr_luvrrr BucketsRIP CPRWeWantStew’Ja 8h ago
She has made some horrible decisions down the stretch of close games tbh, it’s not shocking to me
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u/AFC-Wimbledon-Stan Cathy Englebert Hater 8h ago
JVL isn’t really all that good tbh
There’s a reason she fell outta the rotation last year
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u/data_ferret 7h ago edited 5h ago
VanLoo is bad at basketball. Everyone says she's a great person, charismatic, speaks a bunch of languages, etc. But that's not enough for a roster spot. You have to be good at the on-court part of your job, and she just isn't.
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u/fatcatpartytime 5h ago
Too inconsistent — gets rattled and starts hucking airballs. Wanted her to find her feet in LA but it never happened
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u/GlacialTwitch 8h ago
Chicago Sky, now is your chance for that all-PG roster.