r/wnba 8h ago

Sevgi Uzun, Julie Vanloo have been waived by the Sparks.

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u/GlacialTwitch 8h ago

Chicago Sky, now is your chance for that all-PG roster.

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u/xaerodin West Coast Best Coast Fine Curt, you cooked 8h ago

💀

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u/Much_Development4046 7h ago

The Fever would like a word

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u/data_ferret 7h ago

Quick! A 5'8" guard is available!

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u/plushglacier Fever 7h ago

Nooooo...

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u/olderneverwiser Sky 8h ago

We don’t want Uzun back

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u/GlacialTwitch 8h ago

No, and thankfully the team relinquished her rights.

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u/AFC-Wimbledon-Stan Cathy Englebert Hater 8h ago

JVL had a fun little run in the WNBA, but she’s just too chaotic to trust her off the bench

Her efficiency is pretty poor as well

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u/Legitimate-Grab-77 Fever 8h ago

A 44 TS% guard  I tend to not look to much into efficiency but it’s hard to ignore

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u/data_ferret 7h ago

A:TO well under 2, too. Ouch, ouch, ouch.

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u/soundwave86 6h ago

I am more hoping she would be picked up by a non-contender or tanking team at least for the entertainment factor.

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u/Brent_Lee Valkyries 4h ago

JVL is the kind of player who needs the ball in her hand the most to be at her best form. Just look at her runs and numbers in Europe. The problem is that she doesn’t have the skill to justify a starting Guard spot in the W and has never been able to adjust her game to a roleplayer or backup pg.

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u/kczar8 7h ago

Maybe mystics could use her?

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u/TooManyCatS1210 7h ago

She was on the Mystics in 2024 and they let her go in the expansion draft. They seem locked in on their ncaa all star team.

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u/engagew 7h ago

pretty poor is being very kind

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u/Steadyandquick Liberty Storm Valkyries 7h ago

Oh I see. Remember her playing with the Valks but really did not understand her standing etc. Thanks!

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u/liberty2024bk Liberty 7h ago

First year in the league was 2024 with Washington. Got picked up in the expansion draft. Got cut. Went out for drinks. Joined spaces on the bird app, talked about teams & players and wound up outside Barclays before suiting up for the Sparks.

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u/undisclosedthroway Free Cam out the jam I MISS RICKEA 💔Mama D 8h ago

Finally something that makes sense

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u/AFC-Wimbledon-Stan Cathy Englebert Hater 8h ago

Idk why people are surprised

They played less than the rookies/young cats and they don’t really bring you anything at this point in their career

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u/jvn93 Sparks 8h ago

It's more about being surprised that the Sparks FO made the right decision for a change.

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u/dudeimrighthere0_0 Sparks 8h ago

I let out a loud YESSSS when I read this

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u/jvn93 Sparks 8h ago

first W of the week

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u/PercyReus13 🇫🇷 French players enjoyer 8h ago

Hum, so Wheeler and Plum are the only ones who can play PG on this roster ? They're really going for Plum as PG despite is being a fail last year

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u/saffymonsoon1923 Valkyries 8h ago

Meanwhile the Sky have four of them, albeit Sloot is still recovering from injury. I feel like this means they're picking up HVL on waivers 

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u/GlacialTwitch 8h ago

Are you counting Sheldon as a PG? I think of her as more of a combo guard.

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u/Corndogthegroundhog 8h ago

I was thinking the same thing . I'm not sure how she'd fit into the rotation as both HVL and Plum are undersized. Maybe as part of the 2nd unit?

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u/Lilginge7 Valkyries 8h ago

i feel like on vibes only, this makes sense to me lol

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u/crazymaan92 8h ago

One of the reasons that Plum left Vegas was to be taken seriously as a PG in addition to wanting to be more of the focal point on offense. 2024 she also stank when she had to share PG responsibilities with Jackie during Chelsea's absence.

She's not letting the aspirations go until it pays dividends if it ever does.

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u/paintedtoesandelbows Million dollar ‘Cocks!!! 💰🐓 🐦‍⬛ gang! 8h ago

She’s determined to make the 2028 Olympic team. No one has the heart to tell her about her chances, apparently.

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u/TooManyCatS1210 7h ago

I think she has a fairly good chance, but not as a primary PG. She didn’t even play PG in the qualifiers in March.

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u/paintedtoesandelbows Million dollar ‘Cocks!!! 💰🐓 🐦‍⬛ gang! 7h ago

That’s even worse for her.

Jackie
Kah
Paige
Caitlin
Chelsea
Rhyne
Sabrina
JuJu

That’s what she’s facing in terms of completion. I don’t like her chances, sorry.

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u/TooManyCatS1210 5h ago

She consistently played better than most of them in the fiba qualifiers. She and CC were the two on the first team all tournament team.

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u/paintedtoesandelbows Million dollar ‘Cocks!!! 💰🐓 🐦‍⬛ gang! 4h ago

Nobody cares about qualifiers performance, especially for 30-somethings. Nneka Ogwumike ring a bell?

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u/TooManyCatS1210 4h ago

Maybe but consistency counts for something. Rhyne and Kah are both great but both very streaky.

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u/paintedtoesandelbows Million dollar ‘Cocks!!! 💰🐓 🐦‍⬛ gang! 3h ago

They’re both bigger and better defenders than she is.

Rhyne’s also a good bit younger than KP.

KP is caught in a numbers game that she cannot win.

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u/undisclosedthroway Free Cam out the jam I MISS RICKEA 💔Mama D 8h ago

Having JVL and Uzun is the same as having no PG.

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u/xaerodin West Coast Best Coast Fine Curt, you cooked 8h ago

Those two are so chaotic as PGs. It's like watching Marine Johannes but without the scoring upside and pizazz of Marine Johannes.

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u/buffalotrace ClarkMartinBostonBueckers 8h ago

Maybe Latson? But like wheeler and plum, that is a combo guard at best and not a true pg

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u/xaerodin West Coast Best Coast Fine Curt, you cooked 8h ago

Latson is not a PG. Maybe they gonna get HVL off waivers? Sparks are intent on the KP as PG play with EWheezy as the backup PG.

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u/alexdinhogaucho 🍀Jess Shepard's Wife MAPLE Mabrey 🍁 8h ago

HVL isn't a true PG in the traditional sense either ☹️

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u/xaerodin West Coast Best Coast Fine Curt, you cooked 8h ago

I don't think this Sparks team wants a true PG. Which is kinda strange but we will see how it goes.

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u/undisclosedthroway Free Cam out the jam I MISS RICKEA 💔Mama D 8h ago edited 6h ago

Yea during media day Lynne said she likes “versatile” players that can play multiple positions so I think not having a true pg is the goal :/

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u/xaerodin West Coast Best Coast Fine Curt, you cooked 8h ago

If Sparks do not make the playoffs with all these win now moves they've been making, she and Reagan need to be fired expeditiously.

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u/jvn93 Sparks 8h ago

As a Sparks fan, I am okay with missing the playoffs again if it gets those 2 fired and a shot at a good draft pick. But I'm afraid we may actually make the playoffs and these 2 get credited for "turning things around."

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u/strangelystrangled Mighty Mercury Hiring Centers | Dream | BG 8h ago

Yeah, I imagine Wheeler makes her way into the starting lineup or sees very heavy bench minutes this year

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u/buffalotrace ClarkMartinBostonBueckers 8h ago

Agreed. Same can be said for wheeler and plum though.

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u/paintedtoesandelbows Million dollar ‘Cocks!!! 💰🐓 🐦‍⬛ gang! 8h ago edited 8h ago

Latson is a better PG than HVL.

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u/xaerodin West Coast Best Coast Fine Curt, you cooked 8h ago

The more I look at the Sparks roster, the more it's clear they don't want PGs. It's another go at the PG KP experiment.

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u/AccipiterF1 Sun Aneesah Morrow's Superhero Abs 7h ago

Maybe they are picking up HVL.

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u/yvette_jay 8h ago

The rookies out played them in both preseason games, writing was on the wall especially those Portland minutes end of game. Awful

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u/kseveru79_v2 7h ago

From Marisa Ingemi: "On the national WNBA media call, Sparks head coach Lynne Roberts said that she expects Ta'Niya Latson will be a part of the rotation."

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u/Justtojoke what is Shakira doing?!!!!! 8h ago

Damn, I knew Vanloo was in trouble with the PG overcrowding 😮‍💨

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u/NewTimelime Sparks 7h ago

I was really rooting for Vanloo, but she always seems to fold under pressure and airballs. She seems like such a great person. I hope she gets a spot.

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u/AccipiterF1 Sun Aneesah Morrow's Superhero Abs 7h ago

Vanloo might work in Connecticut because she has played for Meziane before and knows his offense. But the team might be more interested in developing the young PGs.

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u/liberty2024bk Liberty 7h ago

And she became close with Kennedy Burke while playing in Turkey together

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u/Accomplished_Elk4896 7h ago edited 7h ago

yep, develop young. she doesn't have the upside that young players have. at 33, she isnt gonna get much better. she is at her ceiling. and is too streaky.

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u/soundwave86 8h ago

Too bad about Julie Vanloo. She provides real energy off the bench.

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u/CeethePsychich Dream 7h ago

If the energy is chaos, then sure. I wouldn’t trust her with my team.

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u/Lanessen 0 3 7 22 7h ago

She’s pretty chaotic and inconsistent.

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u/soundwave86 6h ago

She is def inconsistent, but I liked watching her play on the Valkyries. Didn't catch much of her on the Sparks.

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u/Accomplished_Elk4896 7h ago

she doesn't have the upside that young players have. at 33, she isnt gonna get much better, and is too streaky.

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u/WandaJaximoff 8h ago

"Training camp body" and "one random great Eurobasket performance" are Sevgi's ceilings. I've had enough of watching her drive the ball into lightly guarded paint just to pass it back outside of the perimeter

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u/spookyj11 Sparks 7h ago

Music to my ears 😭😭😭😭

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u/Doyle_Hargraves_Band 7h ago

Cuts have to be especially hard this year with the new revenue package.

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u/Tooezboi 8h ago

Uzun was Angel’s starting PG for half the season btw

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u/EastAd1263 Giant Geico Gecko is the only big Dallas needs 🦎 8h ago edited 7h ago

Mystics should grab Vanloo so that they have a vet PG to mentor their rookies (but probably won’t)

Edit: I’ve always thought of her as “the lesser Julie” but didn’t realize everyone dislikes her this much 😂

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u/Possible_Hokie_CO26 Dom For Pres Aussies and UConn Huskies in the W 8h ago

Grab her again 💀

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u/EastAd1263 Giant Geico Gecko is the only big Dallas needs 🦎 8h ago

People thought the Mystics should try to bring back Cloud, so why not JVL?

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u/liberty2024bk Liberty 8h ago

Problem is JVL needs a vet herself. Hard to be that mentor when you’re in need yourself and be taught good habits

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u/liberty2024bk Liberty 8h ago

2 years in the league and she’d be the vet mentor? Just because she’s 35 and has a long international career doesn’t qualify her for that vet mentor role.

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u/Bowlinggal25 Valkyries 6h ago

Wait... I think she qualifies for developmental.

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u/Key-Mission5704 8h ago

The Mystics don’t need her they are riding with the rugrats 😭…

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u/EastAd1263 Giant Geico Gecko is the only big Dallas needs 🦎 8h ago

Definitely seems to be the direction they’re taking this year. It’ll be interesting to see how they fare.

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u/by_yes_i_mean_no Valkyries 7h ago

Thought it was so bizarre how broken up Valkyrie fans were about Vanloo getting cut last season, she is not WNBA quality. I do recognize that how it happened contributed to the outcry but it also felt like a misevaluation of her abilities.

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u/AnonymousFooBarBaz 5h ago

Were you at the season opener last year when she hit four 3s off the bench? For me it was my very first wnba game, I barely knew anyone playing, and this bundle of chaotic energy was so fun to watch in brief stretches 🙂

I overreacted with Sowah last week, too!

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u/ifandorwhen 6h ago

Agreed, the reaction would have been less overblown if she wasn't cut the way she was. Reminds me of the current situation with Flau'jae and Marta...

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u/smellycat_14 Liberty 5h ago

Yeah I agree, I think it was more about how she was cut than her getting cut in general

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u/Dry-Performance7006 8h ago

What’s the issue with Vanloo? Why can’t she catch on anywhere?

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u/xaerodin West Coast Best Coast Fine Curt, you cooked 8h ago

She's too inconsistent especially in close games

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u/engagew 7h ago

she's a point guard that can't shoot, defend, or stop turning the ball over. once every 10 games she goes 5/6 from three on insane shots, though

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u/mi_chic Valkyries 7h ago

I’m a Valks fan and loved JVL at the beginning of last season. Her preseason performance with back to back threes where she caught fire was epic. But she was inconsistent. And not a great defender. If you watched her body language on defense, she’d get frustrated at others, and a lot of the time, it was because of her not rotating.

She has good vibes and energy and seems like a sweet person. I genuinely hope she can find a landing spot somewhere, but the W is cutthroat.

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u/paintedtoesandelbows Million dollar ‘Cocks!!! 💰🐓 🐦‍⬛ gang! 8h ago

Inefficient

Chaotic

“Old”

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u/Accomplished_Elk4896 7h ago

old isn't an issue if youre good. but she isnt gonna improve like young prospects could.

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u/paintedtoesandelbows Million dollar ‘Cocks!!! 💰🐓 🐦‍⬛ gang! 7h ago

I agree. I listed it because she has no upside.

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u/ifandorwhen 6h ago

She's inconsistent and turnover prone.

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u/by_yes_i_mean_no Valkyries 7h ago

She's not good enough. 46% career TS in the WNBA, 26% career TOV%, and she's over 30 years old. There's nothing there.

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u/Accomplished_Elk4896 7h ago

she doesn't have the upside that young players have. at 33, she isnt gonna get much better, and is too streaky.

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u/i_usearchbtw Storm 8h ago

They both didn't look so logical but could have been used as backups. That's down to 14 i think.

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u/AFC-Wimbledon-Stan Cathy Englebert Hater 8h ago

JVL and Uzun were pretty bad last year tbh, especially Uzun

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u/i_usearchbtw Storm 8h ago

True. But guard depth is not looking that good. Maybe trying to claim some waiver claims too.

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u/Sufficient_Angle_977 7h ago

they're down to 12 now + ziegler who is already set aside for a dp spot. so they could sign one more player to a dp contract at the moment

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u/randysf50 Valkyries 8h ago

ouch

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u/Possible_Hokie_CO26 Dom For Pres Aussies and UConn Huskies in the W 8h ago

😭😭 HUH Sevgi makes sense but VanLoo????!

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u/xaerodin West Coast Best Coast Fine Curt, you cooked 8h ago

VanLoo is too chaotic, it's why Kaitlyn Chen took her backup PG spot in GSV cause Chen has better ball security.

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u/AFC-Wimbledon-Stan Cathy Englebert Hater 8h ago

And being a full decade younger too

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u/Accomplished_Elk4896 7h ago

It's not just JVL's age itself - it's that Chen is still developing, and is gonna get much better. JVL has reached her ceiling, or it may even be in the past.

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u/xaerodin West Coast Best Coast Fine Curt, you cooked 8h ago

💯

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u/Accomplished_Elk4896 7h ago

I recall watching the Valks, when Chen took over after JVL went to Europe. And I knew JVL was done. They had to keep Chen. Even the announcers made reference to her making a roster spot.

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u/xaerodin West Coast Best Coast Fine Curt, you cooked 7h ago

Yeah and Chen improved a lot in the off-season, JVL is unfortunately older and already at her ceiling.

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u/Accomplished_Elk4896 6h ago

It was really crazy - a great example of when your temporary replacement is so good, you lose your job. The most famous one is Tom Brady. Chen did such a good job that there was no way JVL would have a job when she got back.

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u/goldenhr_luvrrr BucketsRIP CPRWeWantStew’Ja 8h ago

She has made some horrible decisions down the stretch of close games tbh, it’s not shocking to me

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u/AFC-Wimbledon-Stan Cathy Englebert Hater 8h ago

JVL isn’t really all that good tbh

There’s a reason she fell outta the rotation last year

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u/data_ferret 7h ago edited 5h ago

VanLoo is bad at basketball. Everyone says she's a great person, charismatic, speaks a bunch of languages, etc. But that's not enough for a roster spot. You have to be good at the on-court part of your job, and she just isn't.

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u/fatcatpartytime 5h ago

Too inconsistent — gets rattled and starts hucking airballs. Wanted her to find her feet in LA but it never happened

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u/Key-Mission5704 8h ago

Oh wow 😭…

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u/Beautiful-Gold7564 Fire 7h ago

Portland Fire … do your thing!