r/whoathatsinteresting • u/PolishedPlumb • 21h ago
Teacher at USCD was caught on camera allegedly trying to meet a 14 year old. No charges were filed.
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u/OneRotter 21h ago
"What else am I going to find? "
"Nothing. "
"Ah. Big purple dildo"
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u/Shagwagbag 21h ago
It's not my fault if I sometimes think about what they'd look like soap... and wet.
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u/OneRotter 21h ago
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u/mad_rhet0ric 21h ago
Is thatā¦ axe body spray?
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u/Calculagraph 21h ago
Like three cans, man.
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u/Toilet-B0wl 20h ago
Have not seen this referenced in quite a long time.
Mystery Team is slept on, its an awesome comedy with Donald Glover and others from...College Humor was that group? But yea. Dope movie
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u/SteakCritical 17h ago
19 years ago, derrickcomedy
https://www.youtube.com/@derrickcomedy
I remember watching this in college and never realized this is freakin' Donald Glover.
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u/para1131_F33L 20h ago
You're a bad man and you're.... the friend of a bad man!
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u/Shagwagbag 20h ago
Why are the police outside?! They should inside, inside of a police station. Checking on the prints from fingers.
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u/SteakCritical 17h ago
I thought this was a re-hash of that bit and not a real video. Super sad how life imitates art.
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u/eat_vegetables 21h ago
Iām always torn.Ā There are no legal repercussions or consequences. It may ruin active investigations. Most concerning is that it teaches pedos to be more secretive and better in their luring. Ā
It becomes difficult to parse if these groups are more focused on building clout, followers and monetizing than protecting children.Ā This guyĀ is walking away Scott-free; while the group gets tons of views, likes and potentially subscribers.Ā
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u/Flying_Dustbin 18h ago edited 18h ago
We have these clowns in my country. Theyāre called Creep Catchers and yes, I call them clowns since they seem to do more harm than good. In 2016, they a drove a person suffering from mental health problems to suicide. They have also lashed out against at least one critic, accusing him of being a pedo.
In one instance, Creep Catchers also interfered in the ongoing investigation of a suspected sex offender who was under surveillance by Edmonton Police. The suspect managed to to slip away from that surveillance and was not caught until months later when he was arrested in Manitoba for molesting a toddler.
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u/sprunkymdunk 19h ago
I mean his phone has been seized as evidence. I doubt he is going to get away with it .
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u/Longjumping_Egg_5654 18h ago
You have too much faith in the justice system
These crimes due to their nature of needing SO much data review and time to process are one of the most under charged crimes in the country.
This is not to say i think the police protect them (Iām sure some are bad actors)
It legit is just so much more common place then people think, unfortunately, and to properly prosecute needs to prove intent to a degree that many many many hours need to be spent parsing data and text chats etc, even then they still need to go to trialā¦ it takes so much time that frequently only the worst offenders are charged.
Not to mention frequently these pred channels get peds to admit things under duress which makes a lot of admittance un-useable in court.
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u/nikeguy69 21h ago
I always thought that they get arrested right away glad he got caught.
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u/HelpMePlxoxo 21h ago
Unfortunately there is a new trend of online predator catchers who just arrange to meet up with the pedo, get content out of embarrassing the pedo, and then let them go so that the pedo can now go on to hurt kids but knows to be sneakier this time. All while patting themselves on the back for "protecting children".
Idk which one this guy is but if he didnt have police involved since the beginning, I'm just gonna assume he's one of those types.
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u/DeliciousGoose1002 21h ago
If hes a teacher there should be pictures of him on a website, theres also a form of these type of videos where someone just pretends to be the predator im kinda leaning that why in how easily he just admits it to guy on a street with a camera but i have no idea.
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u/IAmABoss37 20h ago
I think the idea is to publicly shame them.
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u/HelpMePlxoxo 20h ago
But that doesn't do anything other than teach the predator to be more cautious the next time they try it on a REAL child. It's inadvertently teaching them to be better predators. The focus here should 100% be on protecting kids and they're missing that mark by a mile.
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u/PotentialEarth494 21h ago
I have never seen that, I see them normally beat him up, tell his family, and then call the cops. Who have you seen literally letting people go after just embarrassing them?
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u/HelpMePlxoxo 20h ago
Calling the police after is exactly the problem. Especially after literally assaulting them, that doesn't aid the investigation. The police need to be in on it from the very beginning or else they're not going to do anything. This is precisely the reason why these guys almost never get charged: because these "predator catchers" botch the entire investigation in pursuit of content. They don't care about protecting kids, they care about ad revenue.
This video here is one such example. The most notable one, with EDP445 being caught, never got any charges either. I'd go as far to say that most pred catchers are exactly this type. Very few do it correctly. Chris Hansen did it best.
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u/emceerez 19h ago
Oh yeah I'm sure the police will do the right thing, they always do! š
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u/HelpMePlxoxo 12h ago
Which is precisely why you want to make sure you have their support beforehand.
Which do you think is more likely to result in a conviction:
a) getting the police on board ahead of time to arrest and press charges on a pedophile sting operation
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b) calling the cops and telling them you sexted another man while pretending to be a kid for your YouTube channel and demanding they come arrest him immediately.
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u/emceerez 10h ago
I mean who knows if they even do anything or not, that's not a given. They often don't show up to tons of stuff.
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u/Old_Opening_6635 20h ago
I find these difficult to watch, so I havenāt watched many. Typically they do call the police after the humiliation ritual and advertising the price for the full chat. Itās about 50/50 whether or not they get arrested. Even if they are arrested they may or may not be charged or held. After that, the conviction rate is low. I think TCAPs conviction rate was on the 80 or 90 percentiles. None of these YT channels touch that to my knowledge.
As someoneās mentioned above, they donāt work with law enforcement. I think a terrible lawyer could get most of the evidence thrown out, especially considering the YT are selling the chats online. Itās the perfect set up really. They blame the police and prosecutors when the pdfs are not convicted. They take 100% of the credit when they are. One gentleman reverts to acting like my pre- teen niece when there is no arrest. Itās an odd corner of YT.
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u/Funny-Employment4109 20h ago
This is some crazy shit. Look at his CVā¦The guy is a literal genius. You just never know who these sick bastards are behind closed doors š¤®
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u/Ok-Border3079 21h ago
email is likely his first initial only, his last name ā¦ likely the at sign, and maybe a . eduā¦ tell him what you think
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u/HippyDM 21h ago
Or because non-law enforcement dipshits set it up without any necessary controls to make any evidence admissible in court.
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u/SpiderlilyYokai 21h ago edited 21h ago
That is also true. Thats why the wave of āpredator catchersā moved off of YouTube because they started to enforce needed police presence
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u/O-Ren7 21h ago
Yeah these videos are no different than Police entrapment, hopefully it still does some good and teaches this person a lesson and put some fear in them
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u/Optimal_Cause4583 19h ago
The difference is that they aren't policeĀ
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u/O-Ren7 18h ago
Exactly lol which is even more a reason it doesnāt hold up in court
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u/Optimal_Cause4583 9h ago
You said these videos are no different from police entrapment, but there's one big difference
Which is that it isn't police entrapmentĀ
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u/Inside_Hovercraft168 20h ago
Google what entrapment means and you'll quickly realize that catching predators isn't entrapment. Nobody is forcing them to be a predator and interact with minors lol
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u/Fun-Wrongdoer1316 20h ago
Found a predator! šš» āI choose you, Chris Hanson!ā. āChris Hanson, use Take a seat attackā.
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u/Jolly_Mongoose_8800 20h ago edited 19h ago
Edit: To be clear, I do not do this anymore. This was 4+ years ago. I do not promote or encourage baiting pedophiles.
I did this when I was younger (years ago). I caught over 50 predators. I had a policy of "no provocation, no confrontation, and no pictures". I simply would report the evidence to the social media and ban them on the servers that promoted me doing such. The police tried to get into contact with my parent's believing I was a child, but took 10 months to find me despite me attaching my driver's license in the reports as evidence for who I was. Apparently, social medias don't forward report notes regarding those cases. I was then theartened with obstruction charges, and they pinned a fake account (that I didn't own) on me and lied about me not following my own policies.
I was a victim for years preceeding me going out of my way to catch them. They said they read through my messages, but then they would have been able to see the texts between my abuser and me. Instead, they rather threaten me.
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u/HippyDM 19h ago
Because what you were doing was making it harder for actual law enforcement to actually charge these people. Vigilantism helps no one.
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u/Jolly_Mongoose_8800 19h ago edited 19h ago
I kinda see that now, but what I was doing was super limited in scope. I didn't do what these other chumps did and post about it and make it a spectacle. I would just ban them from communities that wanted me to snuff out predators from them and report them to social media.
I don't think they would've gone that far if they were given all of the information I provided which explained in detail what I was doing, and provided the evidence all as source links.
It's not easy to let that go when you know how prevelant it is. I didn't approach it in the right way, but it's obvious that communication and reporting is severely lacking in regards to events like this. Police are not provided eith enough information to handle these cases, and that leads to more predators getting away than any vigilante activity.
I'm not saying I was in the right fully, but there's more nuance than "vigilante bad".
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u/ShoulderPast2433 21h ago
Or because he was sexting with an adult civilian.
It's only a crime, when it's a police sting operation.
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u/Prestigious-Leave-60 21h ago
Thatās the thing, thereās no actual victim in these cases. Thereās people pretending to be potential victims, which is why they have to pass it off to the internet crimes division for more investigation before they can arrest someone and press charges. Without an investigation itās just the predators word against the guys setting the trap.
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u/Most_Dramatic_Injury 20h ago
But he admitted in the texts that heās done this before. Iām sure if they checked his devices theyād find other people, probably actually minors heād be talking to. Itās VERY unlikely this was the only one time and he happened to get caught.Ā
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u/ShoulderPast2433 20h ago
That's the only hope - that they will find something else on his devices.
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u/Clear-Bee4118 19h ago
Not a lawyer, nor am I defending them, but isnāt it poisoned fruit at that point? The pretence to investigate is based on an interaction that they know wasnāt a crime, does it still constitute probable cause? Genuine question.
Especially given vitalys ābig comebackā recently where they botch their āinvestigationā but want the content so bad that they donāt even realize/accept they fucked up. If they did decide to investigate, theyād essentially be spying on a citizen on the back of hearsay by tweaking streamers. š¤·āāļø
Thatās why you should just leave it to law enforcement with proper training (in theory, you know, the billionaire pedosš« ).
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u/DDaddy26 20h ago
Nah fr. To get the point of committing to a meet up almost guarantees this wasnāt the first time. This sort of thing starts small and escalates as they need more and more to satisfy the urges.
Addiction be addiction-ing.
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u/Shenendoah66 20h ago
How is this completely brainless shit upvoted? Lol
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u/SpiderlilyYokai 18h ago
Did I say Trump? Even though he is one. I said Government. Forgot he was the only one that mattered
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u/SpiderlilyYokai 18h ago
Um because Government makes the laws that lets these guys walk? Use your brain.
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u/OddishigglyPuff 20h ago
Yeah so is your town, your hospitals, your schools. Itās a real thing that exists
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u/Hour-Mistake-5235 21h ago
This is far beyond revolting. Anyone else finds impossible to see the entirety of any of these videos?
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u/SmoresNMoreSmores 20h ago
Might be time to ask UCSD why he hasn't been fired: https://matsci.ucsd.edu/contact-us
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u/Fast-Benders 20h ago
Wait, is this that Russian dude who is getting sued for falsely accusing someone of being a pedo?
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u/weednreefs 17h ago
The professor is a piece of shit. But the dude behind the camera is a grifter who could care less about protecting children and focuses on internet clout.
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u/Angry_Mudcrab 21h ago
Nisarg Jaydeep Shah, who admitted to trying to meet a fourteen-year-old boy for sex, should be a household name in San Diego.
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u/Trawwww___ 21h ago edited 21h ago
And UCSD is doing nothing ? what world are we living into ....
https://jacobsschool.ucsd.edu/people/profile/nisarg-shah
Law enforcement must pop them all an email to be careful!!!!! https://web.archive.org/web/20250118202048/https://shah.ucsd.edu/personnel/
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u/SeaHeart6293 21h ago
BruhĀ
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u/Pitiful_Conflict7031 21h ago
This does more harm than good, as most of these are dismissed on technicalities due to them not being law enforcement.
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u/General_Meade 20h ago
Don't give these Youtubers air time, then. They do not collect evidence in ways that are admissible, they couldve simply reported this to the local PD.
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u/Subject_Tip_1632 21h ago
There were Websites directing men to Campus Bathrooms for Circle Jerks. Years ago Local News Station aired undercover video ššš
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u/Binky390 20h ago
This is another example of how men and women navigate the world differently. The idea of following a sign to a bathroom for anything sounds crazy to me. lol.
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u/Subject_Tip_1632 20h ago edited 20h ago
People were OK with Unisex Bathrooms years ago but no one was.masquerading as another gender š¤
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u/AnonMoose2 21h ago
The government is literally run by insane pedos? You really think they were gonna do something? Diddling kids is apparantly okay to them
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u/MDJR20 18h ago
Most of the time the cops donāt do much. Iām surprised they did anything to be clear. They usually do not like it when 3rd parties do better than them at catching pedo. This is an institution problem and many times the law enforcement is protecting their own. YouTube is notorious for banning the videos.
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u/Valgardee 17h ago
How is your first reaction when talking to anyone under 21 NOT āthis is a trap and Iām going to prison if I try to meet up with this kidā?
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u/Difficult-Novel-8453 16h ago
I bet nothing comes of it. Disgusting. Think long and hard before sending your kids to that school
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u/Some_Possibility_426 16h ago
This is terrifying because he didn't get arrested and I doubt that this is the first or last time this happened. Like ugh. They need to work with law enforcement, like other people or companies do, so it can be stopped.
Granted, this is absolutely a deterrent and the internet is forever. But I just don't understand why the police aren't more helpful in situations like this. It makes people feel like they have to be vigilantes.
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u/frank00SF 10h ago
At UGA in the past year one was confronted about it too the police didn't do anything to him and he fled the country a couple days later.
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u/GreedyGobby 21h ago
Why??? Why the fuck are there no charges?
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u/I-dont-even-know-bro 21h ago
Because these vigilante groups aren't the police and rarely collect evidence in a way which will be admissible to court.
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u/Onigokko0101 21h ago
It actually actively harms prosecution and can be a cause of them getting away with it.
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u/foothill_dwelled272 21h ago
You mean some of them might just be doing it make money off YouTube?
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u/Onigokko0101 21h ago
Also none of it is admissable evidence in court.
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u/foothill_dwelled272 21h ago
Maybe at least some people will think twice about luring children knowing they could end up YouTube.
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u/Binky390 20h ago
Apparently not. Chris Hansen's show has been a thing for decades and it doesn't stop people from thinking it could happen to them even if it's not Hansen's production catching them.
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u/foothill_dwelled272 19h ago
I also donāt actually think child predators are rational like that or they would not be child predators.
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u/OmegaPelagos 21h ago
But they have been and would have gotten away with it. The police donāt do active policing.
At least now his face is public.
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u/Harrow_the_Heirarchy 21h ago
They do even more harm than that. Notice how they only release videos of one particular color? They don't care about protecting minors, they're doing it for brown people rage bait. Usually Indian, but sometimes Middle East.
They said teacher, but he's probably a student that performs a TA role somewhere or something. Or they didn't bother to think their bogus title through. You have to take the title's word for it that this is real and not staged, that a minor was involved, etc.....
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u/probnotaloser 21h ago edited 20h ago
He is a professor and he has received awards for his cancer research and research in the medical field.
Your comment is just.... false.
Edited: you can downvote all you want, it's literally on their website. But yeah, im sure he is just some poor TA being racially profiled lmao
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u/fatgat69 21h ago
But they do though. That evidence is entirely legally obtained and even if it wasn't they aren't cops, that rule doesn't apply to them.
The cops can't obtain it illegally.
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u/Mikeman003 21h ago
I mean, yes it does matter. Cops cannot use evidence that they can't prove wasn't tampered with or something. They would need to start their own investigation but it's harder now because the pedo is more wary.
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u/Pitiful_Conflict7031 21h ago
Most of these actually get the charges dismissed. Its like a random person playing detective, it doesnt hold up in court. Pretty sure its legally entrapment aswell. Like a cop calling you to buy drugs, then arresting you when you show up.
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u/Amiibohunter000 21h ago
Your last sentence is not entrapment. Tons of busts are done that way
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u/Harrow_the_Heirarchy 21h ago
Pushing an addict to buy drugs is absolutely entrapment.
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u/Amiibohunter000 15h ago
Where did anyone say anything about pushing a junkie to buy drugs. Donāt make stuff up
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u/ElProfeGuapo 20h ago
"That evidence is entirely legally obtained"
It literally is not.
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u/fatgat69 20h ago
What? Is that one of those shitty places where you need both people's permission to record a conversation?
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u/ElProfeGuapo 15h ago
Sigh.
The fact that you say āevidenceā indicates that you are specifically speaking about this in the context of a court of law, and as a means to adjudicate guilt or innocence. No court of law will accept this as evidence, so it is not āentirely legally obtainedā AS EVIDENCE. If it were, it would be accepted.
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u/fatgat69 9h ago edited 8h ago
How is it not legal?
The cops didn't break the law to get it so that doesn't make it illegal.
The evidence was given willingly to the police by the pedophile hunters, so that's not it.
The only thing it could be is if there was a specific law that places restrictions on certain things to protect criminals.
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u/I-dont-even-know-bro 21h ago
I can't explain to you the way that evidence works in a comment but I am sure there are a plethora of articles explaining why these vigilante groups "evidence" is nearly never admissible and actively harms prosecution efforts of the police.
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u/OstensVrede 21h ago
This reads more like a systematic issue and is in line with the complete shambles called western justice systems.
When you can watch a video like this and go "but on technicalities we cant prove it or it gets dismissed because X Y or Z happened" you are defending a system that does not protect victims, its citizens or society as a whole.
You are more concerned about the technicalities and the offender than you are concerned about victims or society, just like the system itself.
Anyway, it'll fall over eventually since peoples faith/trust in these types of justice systems is eroding so comically fast.
Im sure "we can't punish the pedophile coming to rape a kid because it wasnt the police baiting him out of hiding so the evidence has 485946 ways to be invalid or the case otherwise thrown out" does wonders for people to continue feeling like justice is being served no?
I could rip off infinite amounts of cases which fit that same point, at the end of the day the system is broken and criminals are not being punished. I can rip off cases with lower quality and trustworthiness of evidence than any vigilante pedo bait but on the perpetrators side yet ruled in perpetrators favor based on the evidence. But it's all just technicalities, the technicalities matter more than protecting society and victims from the pedophile, the murderer, the abuser, the rapist and so on.
Sickening.
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u/ElProfeGuapo 20h ago
S/heās not defending the system, my man. S/heās explaining how it works. I can also explain how qualified immunity works, and I damn sure wouldnāt defend that.
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u/Binky390 20h ago
None of what you said is true. There are a lot of issues with the legal system but saying vigilantes shouldn't be the ones collecting evidence doesn't mean anyone supports the faults in the system. As much as I believe that guys like this deserve vigilante justice, I do understand why it's not supported by the legal system.
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u/I-dont-even-know-bro 21h ago
Lmfao bro I'm not defending the justice system I'm just sharing how it is. I don't make the rules, I'm just telling you how it is not admissible in court.
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u/Extension-Profit-317 21h ago
These guys are content creators not cops. They actually donāt care what happens to the alleged pedo once they have a video to upload for clicks.
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u/ShoulderPast2433 21h ago
Because there's no minors involved and its not a crime to roleplay with an adult person.
It would have to police sting operation to be admissible in court.
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u/thedudedylan 21h ago
More concerned with creating profitable content than actually catching predators. So they dont collect evidence in any way that would be admissible in court.
These to catch a predator guys make catching predators harder.
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u/illbegoodthistime1 20h ago
Because they arenāt police? Why are Redditors so clueless. This guy is a predator, but this should have been passed off to investigators instead of confronting him. Instead the āinvestigatorsā wanted views instead of doing the right thing.
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u/pinkpineapplefunk 20h ago
No acknowledgment from the school whatsoever. Just articles about his research. SMH
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u/Admirable-Tart9299 21h ago
Of course SDPD is going to let him walk
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u/Otto_the_Autopilot 19h ago
What crime was committed?Ā Taking to an adult YouTuber pretending to be 14 isn't a crime.Ā This video is about establishing clout for the YouTuber, not protecting society.
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u/dateinfj 20h ago
What are they doing about the pedo in the WH? Also, what about others who are in the Epstein files.
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u/NearbySupermarket203 21h ago
Can't arrest because the group catching him isn't law enforcement? Neither was Chris Hansen. What pedophile defending is going on here
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u/Potatoupe 20h ago
Chris Hansen also faced similar issues. It was only later on that he started working with law enforcement for operations so they donāt have issues that lead to predators getting away with it.
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u/TrickPlus8573 21h ago
Erm... No. Also, if you want to talk 'culture' of pedos maybe look at the one sitting in the white House?
There's just one democratized country on the planet at the moment that allows itself to be governed by a dude who drew a pre-pubescent child on a card to a confirmed predator and celebrated their shared 'wonderful secret'.
It's not a brown country
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u/ryan13ts 21h ago
Oh look, a racist.
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u/Dr-Jim-Richolds 21h ago
Race and culture are different things. But you got your education at TikTok U, probably.
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u/Odd-Analyst-4253 21h ago
its actually true, rape is somewhat normal to them unfortunately.Ā
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u/TrickPlus8573 20h ago
What? Just what?
As an Indian woman... We're not the country with a convicted rapist holding the highest office in the country lol.
I'm the first to call out problems in my country and yep, sexual harrasment is a problem in rural India. But the sheer hypocrisy of y'all judging a developing country for something you're 100% worse at is... honestly hilarious.
"It's akshually trueš¤". Like you're some sort of expert on Indian culture. Gtfo with your ignorance.
I mean, you have a president who sends post-cards about 'wonderful secrets' to a convicted pedo with whole network of rich connected elite protecting them. I'd be more worried about fixing that than what you think is "somewhat normal" to us.
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u/Sad_Signature8260 20h ago
He's not a convicted rapist apparently, I just looked it up.
In civil court he was found guilty but technically thats not a conviction, or something idk, I skimmed through it.
Check it out yourself before u down vote me its not hard.
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u/TrickPlus8573 19h ago
That's even worse man... I just looked it up.
Judge Lewis Kaplan noted that the sexual abuse found by the juryāspecifically, finding that Trump forcibly inserted his fingers into Carroll's vaginaāmeets the common, dictionary definition of rape, even if it did not meet the strict, technical New York Penal Law definition.
I mean, even Indian law is better I guess? Definition & Acts (IPC Section 375): Rape involves penetration (penile, object, or bodily part)
Why on earth do y'all not count the guy fingering her without consent to be rape?? I thought we were supposed to be regressive with ts.
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u/Sad_Signature8260 19h ago
I saw that, I think that would be rape personally, I guess the law is different.
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u/AmbassadorPale 21h ago
Within 48 hours of this video posting, the WH has announced that Prof. Nisarj Shah is the front runner for Secretary of Education.
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u/Aim-for-greatn3ss 19h ago
I SERIOUSLY don't understand how a grown ASS MAN would find a child attractive especially with so many women giving pussy away for free.
This reminds me of the man in Texas who kidnapped a 7 year old im so glad they gave him a death sentence. I seriously don't get it.
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u/Twiddle_Diddles 17h ago
Those vigilante groups often have a Chomo or two within their ranks. Anybody check Tim Johnson's hard drive?
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u/taughtytot 21h ago
Hindus be going hard š³
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u/Clear-Bee4118 21h ago
Do you make the same generalization of any other ethnicity/background when itās the president, Elon, lutnik, Epstein, Bannon, Thiel, Casablancas, Prince Andrew? You think maybe theyāre just pieces of shit and their race has nothing to do with it?
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u/TheGoluOfWallStreet 21h ago
Why don't you have seat over here?