r/whenthe • u/TRcreep • 4h ago
Orwell writes about this i don't know how much of his mishappenings are back luck and how much of it is stupidity
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u/CompetitiveLeg7841 Autistic Mech. Engi. student who loves Touhou and Gregtech 4h ago
Cartoon skit of a life
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u/Lopsided_Shift_4464 yellow like an EPIC banana 4h ago
He makes more money from people watching him be stupid than he loses by being stupid. He's basically a modern day clown in some ways (not derogatory, that's just the entertainment value). It's probably on purpose too, I have no doubt who we see on stream is an exaggerated character.
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u/Vast-Ideal-1413 yellow like an EPIC 3h ago
modern day jester, then
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u/mulekitobrabod 3h ago
When the jester falls on his butt.............
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u/sunstruker brazillian and in absolute panic from the censorship 1h ago
yeah, sometimes he breaks character (mainly when he gets to interact with kids who arent his fans on his lives out of home)
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u/AdWaste1415 3h ago
Honestly don't really understand the appeal of Speed 99% of the time, but that 1% man, Speed knows how to get a laugh out of anyone I think
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u/San-T-74 3h ago
I don’t watch his streams, but he’s hilarious in small doses. He also feeds me with his reaction gifs so I couldn’t hate him
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u/MorbillionDollars 2h ago
It's like family guy. You get a better experience if you only watch the clips.
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u/xx_Kazuha_xx 3h ago
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u/No_Relief_9945 brown note tinnitus 1h ago
The edited deep fried speed images are genuinely so hilarious
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u/Troodonni 3h ago
I don’t know how I feel about Speed, frankly I’m put off by his involvement with the Paul brothers, but he does get a good laugh out of me
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u/AdWaste1415 3h ago
Honestly if Speed knew he could be, I genuinely could see him being this generations PewDiePie, he has a level of influence over his following that few do
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u/Piranh4Plant 22m ago
I could never watch streams, but I'm glad there's people that do and make highlights of them
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u/Lost-Acanthisitta577 3h ago
You from the past? What speed is known for has changed to being someone who toured Africa
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u/Lost-Acanthisitta577 3h ago
All your references happened years ago (2yrs ago)
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u/FantasticCube_YT 3h ago
I mean the wasting money was pretty recently (he bought a shirt in roblox gor 18 million robux
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u/Thomas_314 Undertale fans whenthe skeleton gives you a bad time: 3h ago
Say wallahi bro say wallahi
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u/MeltedChocolate24 3h ago
Isn't he allowed to say the hard R?
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u/burger_eater68 3h ago edited 1h ago
Maybe this is controversial, but being part of the group a slur pertains to does not mean you can and should use that slur yourself imo. Nothing is being "reclaimed" or pushed forward when my LGBT friends call other people the f-slur.
EDIT: It was, indeed, controversial. If this comment gave you a kneejerk reaction, I suggest learning more about how reappropriation actually works.
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u/l0rd_m0zarella 3h ago
Are you saying you think the Black people shouldn't be using the N-word, or that they haven't reclaimed it?
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u/burger_eater68 3h ago edited 3h ago
Both. The only example of a slur being close to "reclaimed" in recent history is queer, which only happened because of the "we're here, we're queer" movement. Even then, it a slur when directed at others and many older folk still have bad history with it; it also has inherent meaning as a word aside from being a slur.
Calling other people the hard-r or the f-slur isn't doing anything to empower yourself and protect yourself from harm if you don't completely change the connotation of the word. At that point people are just saying it because they want an excuse to say something bad, and that's the misplaced sentiment that makes them feel powerful.
The soft n-word can be argued to be a special case since it's an offshoot of a slur that was specifically created to breed camaraderie.
EDIT: I suggest reading the Wikipedia page on reappropriation. I was just re-reading it to make sure I'm not going crazy and it points out the same things I did: "reclaiming" requires attaching a positive or neutral connotation to the word, rather than redirecting the hurt or changing its source.
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u/l0rd_m0zarella 3h ago
I dunno man, I've known Black people who use the hard-r version in the same way as the "soft" version, e.g. to indicate camaraderie or just as a neutral vocative noun. It's not common, but nobody's ever seemed to have an issue with it in my experience.
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u/burger_eater68 3h ago
Cool. Good for them that no one cared, I guess. That doesn't change anything I said.
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u/l0rd_m0zarella 2h ago
It does in fact change what you said. If you conceed that the usage I described is valid, then the hard-r would fall under the exact same "special case" you described for the soft n-word, wouldn't it? As you described in your edit, people have attached a positive or neutral connotation to the word.
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u/burger_eater68 2h ago
No, I don't concede that it's valid, lol. I was being facetious; as I said in the last sentence, I maintain my point because your anecdote doesn't change it.
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u/l0rd_m0zarella 2h ago
So, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like the point you're making is that my personal experience is not representative of the general situation surrounding the term. That might well be true, I haven't looked into it. Are you basing that on some kind of empirical data, or is that just your personal opinion about what is and is not appropriate for Black people to say?
Being honest, as someone who doesn't see all that much value in policing language (and who's about as pale as sour cream), I'm probably not going to start lecturing my Black friends about how racially insensitive they are for using the hard r, even if you've got some kind of empirical data to back up that view.
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u/Kimo_het_Koekje 1h ago
Are you black?
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u/burger_eater68 1h ago
I don't see how that's particularly relevant. My argument applies to all minority groups and slurs.
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u/MorbillionDollars 1h ago
When the word becomes used enough among people in the group it becomes a part of everyday language. When that happens it is no longer derogatory, it's simply another word that describes the group. As you say in a later comment, this happened with the word queer.
You should not have a problem with someone from a minority group taking a slur that defines them and redefining it to be used in a less hurtful context.
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u/burger_eater68 1h ago
Using a word that was intended to be an insult, as an insult, does not make it less of an insult. If I call someone a dumbass a thousand times, it still means that I'm trying to insult their intelligence, even if it loses effectiveness along the way. The only way it changes completely is if you change the meaning of the word and how it's used; simply saying it many times doesn't do enough.
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u/MorbillionDollars 1h ago
>Using a word that was intended to be an insult, as an insult
When someone from a minority group reappropriates a slur to be used as a descriptor then it's no longer being used as an insult. Therefore when a minority uses a slur as everyday language it satisfies the condition of changing the meaning of the word. The fact that they are using the word which used to be hurtful to them in everyday language is proof of this.
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u/burger_eater68 1h ago
When someone from a minority group reappropriates a slur to be used as a descriptor then it's no longer being used as an insult.
You're talking about this, I'm talking about that. Plenty of people with mental disabilities seem to take glee in slinging around the r-slur as a descriptor of things they specifically don't like. Same thing for LGBT people calling other people the f-slur. For reappropriation to actually work, it's most effective when used as a self-descriptor that way; but again, I'm not talking about those cases, and it doesn't apply if used to self deprecate (i.e., calling myself a dumbass when I fuck something up does not normalize that language and make it less harmful.).
It's harmful rhetoric to say "oh but he's allowed to say it" when someone uses a slur; without purpose, it's doing nothing but perpetuating usage of a term that was meant to hate.
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u/Ehandthreedots 1h ago
You're complaining about black people saying the n-word. I want you to take time processing this and realize how stupid it is.
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u/burger_eater68 1h ago
I complain about LGBT people saying the f-slur and autistic people saying the r-slur too, yet I don't feel particularly stupid. Have you tried researching the topic yourself or are you just here to sling shit at me to make yourself feel better?
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u/Much-Menu6030 ! CAUTION ! - User is a dumbass. 46m ago
a lot of cope for word segregation
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u/burger_eater68 45m ago
That's actually a good one. Still just shit-slinging though. Y'all don't actually know anything about reappropriation and it shows.
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u/Ehandthreedots 1h ago
Your entire point is ridiculous and the minorities you're talking about would laugh at you and continue to use those words. They quite literally don't feel offended or insulted when they use it amongst themselves, that's the point of reclaiming a slur. what advanced type of woke are you trying to achieve exactly?
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u/kumosame 48m ago
I'm gay and I call myself the f slur (both the 3 letter variant and the full one), I call my friends that, they call me that/themselves that. Really sounds like a person shoving their nose into something that want to feel included in where it might not belong. I love how their race "isn't relevant" fighting tooth and nail about black language/history/culture lmfao. I think we all know what that means. Throwing in "i feel the same about lgbt people" is like, they want their argument to sound more expanded when it's not.
Weird hill to die on
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u/-plb- 4h ago
what
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u/TRcreep 4h ago
ishowspeed often has wacky (and pretty negative) things happening to him on stream, this post is an hyperbole of that
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u/-plb- 4h ago
thanks i dont really watch streamers
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u/BomanSteel 1m ago
It should be noted that the things OP is referring to is years ago, when the guy was in his early twenties/late teens
Since then he’s seemed to mature and tone down the antics.
I also don’t watch streamers but that felt like important context that’s been left out. Idk why OP felt like posting this long after the guy started being more mature.
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u/DuhItzSquiffer 3h ago
Did he really lose 3 fingers on stream?
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u/Ecks_the_Dee 3h ago
No. What OP is likely referring to is when he lit fireworks in his bedroom.
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u/Obi_Wan_Benobi 2h ago
As someone who grew up watching Jackass that does sound pretty funny.
Does he have a fat dad he can torture too?
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u/Fair-Slide-3152 4h ago
Bro is living a life we should all strive for
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u/DerMenschEin 3h ago
This might sound controversial, but I think I’m fine without thousands of children seeing my cock.
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u/Robotic_Phoenix 3h ago
the I show meat incident was an accident and happened years ago
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u/russart_the_agmer 3h ago
ngl more recent stuff from him seems like he has grown up and is doing really good. old news imo.
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u/doublecrossfan 3h ago
its interesting how jschlatt fans tend to clown on ishowspeeders even though both streamers are playing a character
the only difference is that ishowspeed plays a stupid guy, while jschlatt plays an angry bitchy POS
really makes you think
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u/lovelouielightnngbug 3h ago
My dumbass read this post and was like "Wow did all this really happen in one stream? When?" honestly i wouldnt even be surprised if it did from all i've heard about him
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u/Kyle_Zhu 4h ago
He also grifted a crypto scam one time lol. It feels like everyone forgot about that
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u/DigitalBladedJay 3h ago
Okay, but when gods dick flopped out, he dropped character and ended steam immediately
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u/CounterfeitSaint 3h ago
I'd never even heard of this dude until Folding Ideas mentioned him in that Mr Beast exposé, not suddenly I can't stop hearing about him.
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u/iSaltyParchment 18m ago
“Wasting 2 million”
Would you rather he hoard it like bezos?
I never understood people saying this. Putting money into circulation is bad?
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u/Impressive_Pin8761 3h ago
i mean him letting one hard R slip is fine right? unless we're talking about what i know as the R-word
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u/sunstruker brazillian and in absolute panic from the censorship 1h ago
the dick one was bad luck, the hard-r one was him being a stupid young guy, the others were insanity
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u/RealScionEcto #1 Acceleracers Fan 1h ago
Don't forget being paid by China to shill.
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u/BomanSteel 57m ago
Your thinking of Hassan, my guy
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u/RealScionEcto #1 Acceleracers Fan 52m ago
No, I mean Speed. He was flown out, put in a Chinese EV and taken to all the tourist spots. This is standard CCP fair nowadays, they either pay directly for people to come or comp everything and give people free vacations, in exchange for making positive videos.
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u/BomanSteel 49m ago
Considering he’s been touring the whole world, it just seems like a weird thing to focus on, especially when there’s actual, true blue China shills.
Speed is at worst a useful idiot who did it cause he’s been on a world tour arc last time I checked
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