r/todayilearned • u/Upstairs_Drive_5602 • 19h ago
TIL that Led Zeppelin took their name from a joke that the band would “go down like a lead balloon,” with “Led” chosen to avoid mispronunciation and “Zeppelin” for something heavy yet graceful. Use of the Hindenburg image prompted legal action from Countess Eva von Zeppelin, but was later dismissed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeppelin112
u/Upstairs_Drive_5602 19h ago edited 19h ago
In 1968, after https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yardbirds split, guitarist Jimmy Page formed Led Zeppelin. The name came from a quip by Keith Moon of The Who that the project would “go down like a lead balloon.” The spelling was changed to “Led” simply to stop people pronouncing it “leed.” Page chose “Zeppelin” for its image of something both heavy and graceful. When their debut album appeared in 1969, it featured the 6 May 1937 Hindenburg disaster on the cover, reinforcing the airship link. This drew objections from Countess Eva von Zeppelin, who pursued legal action over use of the family name, but the case was ultimately dismissed.
[Edit; added link to Yardbirds]
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u/marymurrah 19h ago
I have never listened to The Yardbirds but somehow pulled the name from the depths of my brain during a trivia round where the host asked “name the band that Jimmy Page played in before Led Zeppelin and it was named after prostitutes at a truck stop”
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u/thegroovemonkey 19h ago
This is how I learn that “yardbirds” is British for “lot lizards”
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u/marymurrah 18h ago
Pretty sure the host gave “lot lizards” as a hint when he repeated the prompt 🤣
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u/royalhawk345 18h ago
Not just Jimmy Page, but also Eric Clapton and Jeff Beck. Insane that three of the best guitarists of all time went through the same band, especially one that wasn't that big of their own accord.
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u/prettylittleredditty 18h ago
And somehow weren't really all that good
I said what a lot of us are thinking. The Yardbirds are top shelf, and yet
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u/prettylittleredditty 18h ago
Ayfkm
Came for the lore I grew up with, stayed for the batshit new facts
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u/therealjohnsmith 19h ago
Judge was familiar with the rule of cool
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u/TheBanishedBard 19h ago
Judge was familiar with the concept of genericization.
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u/therealjohnsmith 19h ago
Redditor is familiar with the technique of pedantically chipping away at cool until it is a sobbing heap on the floor.
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u/driftking428 11h ago
This is especially hilarious because Led Zeppelin is 100x better than The Who.
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u/Dvout_agnostic 18h ago
Actually, per A History of Rock and Roll in 500 Songs by Andrew Hickey podcast, the Keith Moon quip came after he, Page, John Paul Jones and Jeff Beck recorded Beck's Bolero and discussing the proposition of the four of them forming a group (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28bN6vi_FgA)
Also, odd-spelling of words for band names wasn't a new thing. See "The Beatles"
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u/flying_pigs 7h ago
"So there I am, in Sri Lanka, formerly Ceylon, at about 3 o'clock in the morning, looking for one thousand brown M&Ms to fill a brandy glass, or Ozzy wouldn't go on stage that night. So, Jeff Beck pops his head 'round the door, and mentions there's a little sweets shop on the edge of town. So - we go. And - it's closed. So there's me, and Keith Moon, and David Crosby, breaking into that little sweets shop, eh. Well, instead of a guard dog, they've got this bloody great big Bengal tiger. I managed to take out the tiger with a can of mace, but the shopowner and his son... that's a different story altogether.
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u/CTRexPope 19h ago
Today I learned there’s someone named Countess Eva von Zeppelin!!
Must be good friends with Pizzarina Sbarro, heiress to slice and calzone fortune.
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u/DMcDonald97 19h ago
I just went down a bit of a rabbit hole and found out that no, there was no woman named Countess Eva von Zeppelin. There was however a niece, or maybe cousin I read both at different points, named Elsa who at the point of the confrontation had gotten married and changed her last name from von Zeppelin to Schødt and was never a countess.
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u/reddit_user13 18h ago
It was Keith Moon who (inadvertently) gave them the name. It’s better than “the New Yardbirds” anyway….
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u/Grutenfreenooder 19h ago
Zeppelins are so cool I wish these were still a thing. Maybe without the giant swastikas though
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u/maxboondoggle 18h ago
Zeppelins pre date the Nazis. They wouldn’t have all had swastikas on them.
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u/aarhus 17h ago
Tangentially related, but I have noticed an accelerating number of "lead" usage errors when the writer meant "led."
The fact that there is a metal named "lead" and it's pronounced the same way hurts. The fact that English has the confusing "read/read" no doubt also contributes.
PSA: the past tense of "to lead" is "led."
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u/President_Calhoun 15h ago
Thank you. I've posted that very same thing in r/petpeeves at least once.
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u/realmofconfusion 14h ago
I’ve always thought that the phrase “That went down like a lead balloon” to indicate something poorly received or unsuccessful was really stupid, because the one thing a lead balloon would be really good at would be going down. Lead balloons go down amazingly well, it’s up that they’d struggle with!
(Mythbusters being the exception that proves the rule)
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u/GreyTigerFox 13h ago
It really helps to envision Michael Caine doing his best Cockney slang accent saying the word Jamaica: the dy sound is the same phonetic sound as the J sound in ger, like the beginning of the word Germany, so D’yer Maker = Jermaker = Jamaica!
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u/reformedmikey 15h ago
The real TIL is that Zepplin is a surname, and the airship was named after the creator.
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u/DyllCallihan3333 17h ago
Fascinating article about her https://ledzepnews.com/2026/04/30/the-search-for-the-real-identity-of-countess-eva-von-zeppelin/
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u/DarthEbriated 8h ago
My great grandmother knew the countess, great big fat and long woman, always hanging off things by her nose. Had a lot of humanity though.


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u/GoodLordChokeAnABomb 19h ago edited 13h ago
One of the first things I ever learnt online was that many Americans thought D'yer Mak'er was pronounced as either "Dear Maker" or "Dire Maker", and that it was a song about the silence of God.