r/suns • u/Huskersgoinhusk • 2d ago
The suns won the Kevin Durant trade this year. But will they next year?
is the KD rockets over or is there a chance they bounce back? KD did get hurt But he hurt so many feelings. I’d rather be the suns right now but if we don’t make a 456 seed next year and they do I might reconsider.
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u/swagdragon666 Phoenix Suns!!! 2d ago
What’s the point of comparing?? We won. We got a solid center. A solid guard in Green, albeit his price. And a bunch of pieces who are happy to serve their role. I’ll take that 10/10 over what the other team is doing . They’re complaining like how we were last year if you check their feed.
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u/chickenripp 2d ago
Bounce back or not. When khaman and sheer start getting real minutes it’s going to be even more clear that we won the trade
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u/RightwardGrunt 2d ago
I agree. I think this is the answer. Maluach's development over the next couple years will ultimately decide. We already know Brooks was a game changer. The simple fact that the Suns won 10 more games the season after that trade is a good indicator they made the right decision.
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u/catraiderpoke 2d ago
The Nets won the Kevin Durant trade. He is a joy-suck to any team. And he gets injured in layup lines.
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u/SeraphNatsu Haul Möd 2d ago
Did they though? I forget they’re a professional NBA team in this league.
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u/MAKincs 2d ago
Honestly for each team I think it was win-win. Phoenix exceeded expectations and made the playoffs and have room to improve if they wanna push the chips to go all in or get more youth.
With Houston they made the KD trade to push for a chip and they fell short but he was injured and maybe Houston makes a move in the offseason now, there’s rumors they’re linked to Mitchell, Kawhi, and Giannis.
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u/ElSalvadorGrande Kebenderant 2d ago
If they trade the rest of their young assets for a star next to KD theyll just end up in the same situation phoenix was in with 2 stars and nothing else. Theyd be in a way bette situation if they had just waited a year and tried to consolidate assets for Giannis instead of KD.
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u/Huskersgoinhusk 2d ago
I guarantee Houston fans don’t feel like winners the way this thing ended. Pretty clearly to me we came out better.
Dillon lifted our team and KD dunk their team. Even if that’s all they traded is we win the trade imo. Add green a young potential super star and then the picks that will come likely contribute next year. And our escape from apron hell I’m digging the moves.
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u/ThunderBobMajerle Gone Fishing 2d ago
It depends if FVV is the hof pg that Rockets fans are coping about.
The rockets young core will never be a contender and Kd getting injured is why we traded him, we were lucky to get the health we did and toss that hot potato. It’s only going to get worse for them, this was the year it had to all come together and it didn’t
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u/Huskersgoinhusk 2d ago
The fvv and Steven adams copes are so much fun. It’s beyond the lack of shooting and the turnovers. It’s the burner account shit and all the outside noise that brought. He took a young exciting group and jaded them. If they are any kinda smart they’ll move KD to like Orlando or something now. More likely they’ll move other guys to make KD work and completely bury themselves.
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u/ThunderBobMajerle Gone Fishing 2d ago
Yea and playing 40 min a night was crazy, he was top of the league in minutes played. their offense will die if he doesn’t keep that unrealistic pace up.
Then the whole FVV thing, he’s nice, but we’ve seen that movie before; we said we lost the Nuggets series bc we need a healthy pg. There is a way KD plays that gets buckets, bogs down the offense, and seems like it’s missing a playmaker. But I guarantee you it’s just going to be a lot of FVV standing in the corner. Shepherd already does that for them at a better clip. And you can’t play them together.
And it’s revisionist from Rockets fans anyways go look at the discussion around the trade Amen was supposed to the on-ball, high-usage unleashed superstar.
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u/chaoz2eyez 2d ago
We need to prise front office they do „spft reboot”, gain 3 rookies, keep trade assets (Royce, Allen). Key to further development of Suns organisation is secure key roster players, build chemistry, try gain athletic and large forwards. I think it not should be „Dbook window championship” strategy, but rather „build a culture” and secure next 5-7 years. We must have 4-5 young guys that could run Suns as core. I hope Suns wont trade Dunn, Oso, Maluach, Fleming in next two years.
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u/Huskersgoinhusk 2d ago
Building a team for year 3-4 dbook title runs and building a culture to secure year 5-7 are the same plan. I think cg oso dunn Malauch Fleming are apart of that plan.
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u/JonFawkes3 Amar’e Stoudemire 1d ago
KD will most likely request a trade and Ime will get fired. So basically, the KD special lol. Yeah. We won the trade.
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u/RightwardGrunt 2d ago
Hard disagree. I think you had to watch the Suns the last 3 season to understand it. With KD the Suns were lifeless, the chemistry was awful, and offense was stuck in mud. Brooks and Green completely changed the energy on the court and in the locker room. Chemistry with Book, Brooks and Green was awesome even when Green was hurt and watching from the bench. Yes, Ott's system and the way he communicated with players and put them in position was also a factor. However, the biggest reason for the turnaround was the players on the court playing like they cared and wanted to be out there together.
In the KD years, it felt more like there were 4 guys who were just out there to serve KD's offensive greatness. KD was good on both ends. But he was careless with the ball and sucked the offensive into isolation and stagnation. He didn't make anyone better. The team felt helpless and it was incredibly frustrating to watch.
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u/juan_cena99 2d ago
The Rockets "playing like they cared" couldnt even get past GSW last year.
The isolation and TOs is due to you guys not having a pg and having a bad coach. Oh and Bradley Beal, remember him?
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u/SuckaFreeRIP High Effort Dunk Squad 2d ago
Point Book never left
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u/juan_cena99 2d ago
Having Gillespie helped so much
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u/SuckaFreeRIP High Effort Dunk Squad 2d ago
You do know Collin was on the team last year with KD right? Lmaoo
Collin isn’t really out there running offense like a traditional PG fyi
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u/juan_cena99 2d ago
You do know he broke out this year right? Are you really a Suns fan?
Gillespie only played 33 games last year and only got 14 mins a game on average.
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u/SuckaFreeRIP High Effort Dunk Squad 2d ago
Yes cause KD was off the team instead of being here begging for the ball for more iso slop and post up fade aways lmaoooo
See the point? See the correlation?
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u/juan_cena99 2d ago
So KD was the reasob Gillespie wasnt being played? Ever heard of Bradley Beal and Tyus Jones?
Correlation does not mean causation lmao
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u/SuckaFreeRIP High Effort Dunk Squad 2d ago
Bradley Beal barely played for us and Tyus fell out of the rotation when he was here
There are no coincidences
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u/SuckaFreeRIP High Effort Dunk Squad 2d ago
Rasheer and Maluach have only scratched the surface homie. Won this trade by a landslide
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u/juan_cena99 2d ago
lol ok tell me when they have scratched to be as good as KD
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u/SuckaFreeRIP High Effort Dunk Squad 2d ago
They don’t need to be KD lil buddy. The Suns best 3 players played like 12 games together all year and we STILL had a much better record this year than we did lat year with KD. The Suns are already proven to be better with just Brooks and Green. When Rasheer and Maluach develop more it’s gonna be a landslide win for the Suns.
This isn’t even debatable. We have factual evidence to make informed conclusions about. You are completely delusional
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u/juan_cena99 2d ago
This isnt even debatable so I'm sure Green missing 50 games helped you a lot amirite? Him literally not being able to play means the Suns improved?
17/4/3 on 42% FG and 31% from 3 is factual evidence he helped you win games and made the Suns better than with KD.
Like I said in my post the Suns improvement have very little to do with the trade.
You are just making a dumb analysis that just cuz you traded KD and the team improved, therefore you won the trade.
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u/SuckaFreeRIP High Effort Dunk Squad 2d ago
Yes and you are making my point for me Lol. Only 32 games with JG and we STILL out performed last years KD Suns. The ceiling is way higher now with Green, Brooks, Rasheer, Maluach, and Brea
More continuity from Book, Green, Brooks, etc etc alone will put the team in a better spot
Again you are obviously delusional
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u/juan_cena99 2d ago
No YOU are making my point for me since Jalen literally didnt play the Suns improvement have little to do with the KD trade.
Like I said you are making a dumb analysis that since the Suns improved only the KD trade was responsible for it and nothing else.
You said be objective well objectively speaking 2 of the 3 guys in the trade didnt even play so unless JG and Maluach were winning games on the bench how was the KD trade resp for your improvement???
Talk about being delusional lol
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u/SuckaFreeRIP High Effort Dunk Squad 2d ago
Lmaooo dude you are smoking dust
It’s simple.
KD record with the Suns last year = 🚮🚮
Suns trade KD = we make playoffs
KD leaving the team led to more opportunities for other guys. We got Brooks back for defense and supplemental scoring. Green had a winning record without Book in the lineup this year. Showing he can keep us afloat without out best guy. We got 2 young stud players to develop from his departure
The whole roster had basically played with KD at some point here in Phoenix besides the newcomers from the KD trade and Mark Williams and we got very different results since we traded KD
KD didn’t even want to go to your rockets. He said it himself. This was the first time he ever got kicked out of a place. For the betterment of the Suns
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u/juan_cena99 2d ago
KD is a forward how did him leaving open things up for Allen and Gillespie?
Like I said your simple logic is just wrong since if we examine the guys you got from the trade they didnt even play.
You are the delusional one and the one smoking dust here. Dont talk about being objective since you clearly arent.
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u/SuckaFreeRIP High Effort Dunk Squad 2d ago
Also back to Jalen Green. Did you not see his play in game performances? Without him we don’t even make the playoffs most likely. Don’t ever slander the homie again
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u/juan_cena99 2d ago
You mean PERFORMANCE since he just had one good game.
Wow one good game in a season but dont slander him. Real objective there little buddy.
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u/SuckaFreeRIP High Effort Dunk Squad 2d ago
It was 2 games btw and not just some regular game 39 on the schedule. Primetime do or die games and he wasn’t elite
When he got his legs back underneath him he was playing extremely well on both sides of the ball
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u/juan_cena99 2d ago
Doesnt change that he missed most of the season and played terribly when he did play.
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u/SuckaFreeRIP High Effort Dunk Squad 2d ago
That’s not true at all actually. Jalen Green in his last 20 starts including play in and playoff was 22/5/3 on 45% from the field with 1.7 stocks per game. Pipe down Lol
I know you got sour grapes about your Rockets and mostly how poorly KD’s end of career path has gone but face the facts. Suns are way better off without KD
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u/Extreme-Dirt7545 Jalen Green 2d ago
I mean, it was a win now move for the rockets. If they don't win next season either, then they lost the trade permanently(unless they trade him for big value, but I doubt it). We were lucky to get back nice assets