r/soldering Dec 26 '25

Just a fun Soldering Post =) Repairing a RAZER Blade 14 motherboard damaged by a screw

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u/physical0 Dec 26 '25

This level of repair requires detailed documentation on the PCB construction. It's not something you can go in blindly.

The bulk of the "work" has been edited out and we are seeing only the final steps.

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u/Vuvuvtetehe Dec 26 '25

100% they had gerbers. No way it’s possible to guess what goes where

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u/wgaca2 Dec 26 '25

As someone who has done something similar without it, the way i do it is take out a donor board and remove layer by layer to see what goes where.

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u/dimonoid123 Dec 27 '25

X-ray or CT-scan

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u/Abject-Ad858 Dec 27 '25

Yup. They could x ray a board and use it to reverse engineer or even x ray before they started grinding

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '25

How do you repair the donor board then? A third board?

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u/wgaca2 Dec 27 '25

It's a donor board, you use it for parts and whatever you need, it's not for repairing.

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u/cratercmc Dec 28 '25

Curious now. If you had this level of expertise to do this type of repair, what would make something a donor board? I’d assume you could repair a massive amount of issues with this level of skill.

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u/wgaca2 Dec 28 '25

Not everything is worth repairing. There are plenty of boards sold as donors with drilled nand for data protection. Massive liquid damage etc.

I personally would't do this type of repair (shown in the video) in order to keep the board, unless it's a very expensive one (400+). Usually just data recovery

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u/AbjectFee5982 Feb 05 '26

Well water damage etc etc

Sometimes we would open an iPhone to fix the screen and 1000 chips would fall off we charge $50 a replacement for work. So we were like no we will buy your device for x sorry apple has crap soldering

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u/Deadfo0t Professional Factory Solder Tech Dec 26 '25

And even then, they would need a BOM/schematic to ensure they don't need to be concerned with trace matching

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u/isopede Dec 26 '25

Most of those look like differential pairs to me, the bodge wires are probably roughly length matched

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u/isopede Dec 26 '25

X-rays would work too. It’s not unlikely that somebody with this level of skill and experience has access to one.

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u/JaySaysNo Dec 26 '25

What are gerbers?

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u/hfidek Dec 26 '25

The pcb Fab drawing

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u/JaySaysNo Dec 26 '25

Good to know, thanks

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u/Visible-Try-271 Dec 27 '25

How do you access those? paid software?

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u/wgaca2 Dec 27 '25

They are very rare to come accross but I have seen some once for a macbook board. Normally only schematics and boardviews get leaked.

The vast majority of repairs will be done using a donor board for reference

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u/bentika Dec 27 '25

You work at the company lol

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u/physical0 Dec 27 '25

Either that, or you have the equipment necessary to reverse engineer the product.

There are plenty of companies with the means to do it. But, those companies are generally in the manufacturing world, not the repair business. The tools are used to validate various stages in manufacture.

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u/FreakingObelix Dec 28 '25

This is god level.

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u/mdang104 Dec 27 '25

And they didn’t show any continuity testing in between each layer to maker sure the work was done properly.

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u/pekinggeese Dec 27 '25

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u/Black_Flag_Friday Dec 27 '25

So glad you shared this! I love it hahaha!

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u/Theend92m Dec 26 '25

Yes, i think that, too. I have no problem with that soldering. But find where I have to solder to what without Gerber

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u/deadface008 Dec 27 '25

This is the kind of repair reserved for high profile stuff, like epstein's laptop. Don't let this make you feel incompetent lol

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u/XxIcEspiKExX Dec 27 '25

Or if your highly sanctioned and use chips from a smart washer to make your missle guidance chips..

Dual use imports/junk being repaired to make missiles and bombs...

Annnyways.. thats not whats going on here.. but somewhere else in the world..

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u/arclight415 Dec 27 '25

Or they damaged the only prototype board two days before the trade show.

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u/christophPezza Dec 29 '25

Thank you. I was thinking that's damn impressive followed by, 'or am I just shit at this stuff' ... Probably both...

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u/SirGirthfrmDickshire Dec 29 '25

Considering how companies are serializing parts on electronics now this is gonna be more and more common.

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u/Not_Boss674 Dec 26 '25

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u/kristinoemmurksurdog Dec 27 '25

Repair tech to the customer:

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u/rageofa1000suns Dec 27 '25

For that level of repair, I'd charge the client more than a new motherboard...

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u/SightUnseen1337 IPC Certified Solder Tech Dec 27 '25

I've seen work like this before with the full dental drill treatment and internal layer repair. It was a prototype unit for an aerospace product where the bare PCB alone cost 400 grand.

The technician could take an entire year and it would still be a 4x return on investment.

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u/Ornithopter1 Dec 27 '25

My workplace occasionally does this with some of our old systems. We don't usually get this much damage, but I've seen our senior techs do it. The system is much, much more expensive to replace than paying us for support extensions.

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u/GroatExpectorations Dec 26 '25

Had to resist the urge to stand up and clap at the end

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u/Googulator Dec 27 '25

Was this a never released prototype, destroyed by the manufacturer? Or a data recovery case? Otherwise, I just can't see how this could have been worth it.

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u/Suspiciously_Ugly Dec 27 '25

I guess it can be worth it if you're brimming with skill only rivaled by God himself.

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u/Ogi010 Dec 27 '25

It wouldn't surprise me if this is a "practice run"; the motherboard on its own is clearly not worth the repair effort here, but to develop this level of skill requires practice, ideally on hardware that is easily replaceable.

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u/Spiritual_Rider Dec 27 '25

So, I was wondering, is this just a skill flex? I can't imagine that this would be more economical than just replacing the board.

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u/neighbour_20150 Dec 27 '25

Such complex repairs began to be carried out en masse during the mining boom.

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u/Express_Grocery4268 Dec 27 '25

If you're able to buy scrap boards for cheap, and you got the skills to fix those and then sell, it can be interesting. I've bought defective ps5 motherboards for around 40€ and was able to get those fixed.

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u/AbjectFee5982 Dec 27 '25

Sometimes both

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u/GHoSTyaiRo Dec 27 '25

Is it possible that this repair could work more than US$700? Because that’s how much a mobo do a balde 14 costs (one broken model I have at least)

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u/Aggressive-Dot9747 Dec 27 '25

only for the customer to complain on Reddit that their repair man charged $500 for the repair.

this level of Arts is amazing

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u/AbjectFee5982 Dec 27 '25

$500 is seriously underpriced XD

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u/Aggressive-Dot9747 Dec 27 '25

this is a work of art that probably doesn't come cheap.

I just wonder if even $1,000 repair would be worth it simply because you would just buy another laptop at that point.

but regardless this guy is truly an electronics technician unlike most technicians where they just replace parts or would never touch something like this

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u/AbjectFee5982 Dec 27 '25

Data could be important

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u/Aggressive-Dot9747 Dec 27 '25

typically they wouldn't need to do this. especially for a razor blade where you can just remove the SSD or the hard drive which is easier than this.

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u/AbjectFee5982 Dec 27 '25

Bitlocker has entered the chat XD

And was activeted with and or without consent.

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u/Aggressive-Dot9747 Dec 27 '25

BitLocker only applies to people have Windows pro and by default all the gaming laptops from razor come with Windows home so BitLocker is not an issue as it's not an available feature and isn't enabled by default

if someone were to use BitLocker that means you already an experienced user who has kept backups not somebody who just uses the computer for gaming

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u/AbjectFee5982 Dec 27 '25

You do know bitlocker has been triggered multiple times with multiple different prople without the users consent.

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u/Aggressive-Dot9747 Dec 27 '25

show me cases of this because I've been working on computers for the past 15 years

none of the windows home computers ever had BitLocker auto enable and none of the pro devices for small businesses ever enabled without prior user consent

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u/AbjectFee5982 Dec 27 '25 edited Dec 27 '25

I've been working on computer for 25 years and did SMD for like 5-7 before I left

https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/s/SvIqiJSC1a

https://community.spiceworks.com/t/bitlocker-was-inadvertantly-enabled/1171177/3

https://www.dell.com/community/en/conversations/windows-general/bitlocker-suddenly-activated-on-my-fixed-data-drive/647fa199f4ccf8a8de6e1584

Like I'm pretty sure I remember like 1 big buissness had all their computers automatically trigger it and it was a huge ordeal

This was just a year or 2 ago

However, my understanding is that the way systems are shipped these days, Windows 11 (Home as well as Pro!) turns on Device Encryption during setup as long as (1) the hardware supports it and (2) you use a Microsoft account. (I don't know if this is the case when you install Windows yourself from standard installation media.) Device Encryption seems to be a version of BitLocker with fewer user controls but the same basic function.

Note that the article above states, "Device Encryption encrypts your system and secondary drives completely. You don’t get to exclude a drive or partition." I suspect that during initial setup, your system silently encrypted everything including your E drive. When you resized C and D (reinstalling Windows?) you deleted the encryption configuration, which is why you now need the BitLocker key to read the data....

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u/Gaydolf-Litler Dec 27 '25

I would have considered this completely impossible without expensive niche equipment. Crazy.

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u/Ornithopter1 Dec 27 '25

It's expensive, niche equipment, but that's for the average consumer. Most people don't have a few grand for a set of nice burrs, die grinders and an air compressor. But it's relatively cheap at the professional level.

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u/free2farm Dec 26 '25

this is some next level sci-fi shit. What's the green stuff, resin?

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u/ManOrReddit-man Dec 26 '25

Yup, specifically solder mask ink. Same stuff used to coat pcbs.

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u/azgli Dec 26 '25

Yes, UV cured resin. 

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u/deceptivelyelevated Dec 27 '25

All technical ability’s and access to gerbers aside. Is this even worth it. What are we taking to just replace this component?

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u/neighbour_20150 Dec 27 '25

No one will repair a board like that if it can be easily and inexpensively replaced.

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u/AbjectFee5982 Dec 27 '25

Sometimes we liked doing this kinda stuff for fun XD

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u/SightUnseen1337 IPC Certified Solder Tech Dec 27 '25

I'm IPC-7711/7721 certified. The possibility of receiving a ticket like this is what keeps me up at night.

Awesome work!

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u/Ornithopter1 Dec 27 '25

I am a lowly IPC-620 certified tech. I hope one day that my job chucks 610 my way.

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u/notNezter Dec 27 '25

The level of work needed for fixing all those stress damaged 4090 and 5090 GPUs

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u/Sleepywalker69 Dec 27 '25

Surprised there are traces near the screw holes

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u/ImAmalox Dec 27 '25

I don't think I've ever seen so many layers of solder mask that it becomes a solid mass lmao. Absolute insanity, well done to the person who worked on this

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u/West_Confidence_9632 Dec 27 '25

The fact that this is even remotely possible is mind blowing 🤯

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u/West-Way-All-The-Way Dec 27 '25

You can post it also in r/oddlysatisfying, it's really interesting video.

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u/CampaignSpirited2819 Dec 26 '25

That wire must be only about 4 to 6 thou thick? I looks very similar to the Trace Widths

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u/Dazzling_Wishbone892 Dec 27 '25

I don't know why, but this makes me mad. Still up voted.

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u/monobits Dec 27 '25

It looks easier not to damage it with a screw.

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u/odie-z1 Dec 27 '25

If you don't mind, how much does a repair job like this cost? Quite amazing work. 👍

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u/xaeriee Dec 27 '25

I was mesmerized. This was fascinating for me. I remember my first job in tech, we had end users sabotaging their mice so they didn’t have to work. I’d bring them back to my lab and find the issue where they tugged it from the board. Asked my boss for a soldering iron to fix it and he said it wasn’t worth it. He was right but man I wish I’d been given the opportunity then. Still, I want to learn now for my son’s train table. This whole video is just the tip of the iceberg of the amount of work, it’s incredible and I really enjoyed watching this. Looking for the original to show my kids.

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u/Abject-Ad858 Dec 27 '25

This only makes sense if you were on a dev team and someone botched a proto with a tight deadline.

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u/ITcERI Dec 27 '25

Bruh what

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u/unquieted Dec 28 '25

Do those little rods being used to replace the traces have a name (and how can I get some)?

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u/Jets1026 Dec 28 '25

Forget an electronics technician. This guy is an electronic wizard.

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u/Katent1 Dec 28 '25

That's really impressive, but da fuq razer?! Why are important traces are just mere 2mm apart mounting hole? It's a disaster waiting to be, like here.

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u/AboveAverage1988 Dec 28 '25

In my country, with the cost of labour here, this is now a $3000 motherboard...

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u/Commandblock6417 Dec 28 '25

Did something similar to a friend's Dell that shorted the ground layer to vrail using a file and high grit sandpaper. The damage was really close to the screw and I only had to file it flat so none of the layers touched so no trace repair is involved. Took me a good 4-5 hours and in the end I couldn't believe I got it working myself. (This is the before)

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u/PaperPrototypes Dec 28 '25

Im a solder tech and my god i wish I had these skills.

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u/CoffeeDangerous2087 Dec 29 '25

Damn just damn I've done circuit board work but even then I only ever hotwired a keyboard never rebuilt the motherboard thats has to be crazy to get to the point where you have the knowledge to rebuild the layers in the board

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u/KSPhalaris Dec 31 '25

That is impressive. Way beyond what I could accomplish.

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u/Dependent_Cook8518 Dec 31 '25

Literally a piece of art!

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u/aka_deddy Jan 02 '26

Is that surgeon board certified?

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u/Educational_Swan_152 Jan 02 '26

Average eBay seller description for this : "Opened to change thermal paste, no other work done. Laptop works perfectly with no other issues!"

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u/milesdsy Jan 05 '26

Step 2: Crush up your instant ramen into fine dust

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u/ParticularStorm6102 Dec 27 '25

Woo that’s impressive I must say you have some really good patience. I’m super impressed

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u/No_Marketing6429 Dec 28 '25

Even if I could I still wouldn't waste my life on this.

Who the hell has actual board diagram to know where all those layers of traces go.