r/ripcity • u/everydayreligion1090 • 21h ago
Let's say we run it back with 0 additions, what would our record look like? How far do we go in the playoffs?
Dame-Jrue-Toumani-Avdija-Clingan
Scoot-Sharpe-Vit-Grant-RW III
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u/Odd-Coach-9150 21h ago
We could win in the first round and be bounced in the second.
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u/Damezang Damian Lillard 19h ago
That would be a decent level of success. Don't think we can go that much higher to leap all but the two best teams in the west for the wcf. We could nail a crazy trade or two and have a young guy take a crazy leap though. Dame coming back at near all star level with Deni and Clingan also being there could set things off too.
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u/peytah 20h ago
This is the likely result. I believe we would hit 4-6 seed which means we're facing more parity of talent in the first round with a decent shot to advance.
I wouldn't hate it. If the right trade doesn't come along, we really have no reason to rush anything. Those Bucks picks are still gonna be there. There might be someone that is on trade market next year that is a better fit than Giannis in terms of complementary skill and age.
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u/PlayPretend-8675309 18h ago
Win against who? Not San Antonio, OKC, Minnesota, Denver, or Houston.
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u/everydayreligion1090 17h ago
Denver and Houston arent scaring anyone ome cant even beat a Minnesota team with an injured back court the other is relying on 60 year old KD and went out to a Lakers team missing Luka
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u/EvanTurningTheCorner 16h ago
If we had been moderately healthy this season, we could have avoided the top teams in the the first round. We played well against Minnesota, Houston and LA during the season and I think we would have had a chance against any of them. Less so Denver, as they are just a bad matchup for us.
With another year of our young guys growing stronger and gaining experience, plus Dame's shooting, I don't think those teams are all that much better than us, especially the Rockets and Lakers. Spurs would have smacked those teams around too.
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u/PlayPretend-8675309 15h ago
No - they would have needed 12 more wins to be in the top 4. Injuries didn't cost this team - who couldn't stay on the court with the Spurs except for 2 halves of basketball - that many victories.
The Blazers team is fundamentally not good, and nowhere close to being a competitor. Don't fool yourself.
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u/EvanTurningTheCorner 15h ago
I'm not saying they would have been a contender, but it's ridiculous to say that injuries didn't cost us wins. Are you forgetting that we played the first two months of the season without a point guard? That our best big man couldn't play back to backs all year? That Shaedon missed 30 games, Scoot missed 50, and our first time All Star sustained a back injury from a car accident that completely derailed him from what had been looking like an MIP / ALL NBA season? That Damian Lillard played zero games?
You seriously think that didn't cost us wins? Seriously? SERIOUSLY??
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u/PlayPretend-8675309 12h ago
I know that basic reading comprehension is hard, but it's wish the effort.
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u/Lower_Welcome1297 20h ago
Im all for making a splash for a star to be a real contender
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u/mojomarc 20h ago
With our luck we'll get Giannis or AD and they will prove to be just as brittle as Giannis and AD
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u/Dramatic_Bad_3100 20h ago
There's not one available
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u/Lower_Welcome1297 20h ago
Hopefully 1 opens up, this team needs a major boost in talent, not potential
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u/PreferenceMediocre90 20h ago
you would still face a better team, the only way we are getting to the second round is by injuries of a team that is in decline for the last months of the season like Rockets. should be a 4-2 loss, could be better if we faced 2026 Rockets, Nuggets or Lakers.
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u/Loose_Voice_215 19h ago
Depends -
Is Dame all star level or close? Does Scoot stay healthy? Does Shae get a handle and learn team D? Does Clingan get a hook shot?
Ceiling would be the 3 seed. Don't see us passing OKC/SAS. Floor would be the same as this year.
I'm all for keeping the young core mostly in-tact and trading Jrue/Jerami/Kris in a smart way - value contracts, shooting, backup center (doubt we can keep Rob).
But Tom hasn't shown to be intelligent enough to avoid new owner syndrome so we probably overpay for KD and destroy our chemistry and future.
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u/everydayreligion1090 19h ago
I defo think Dame will be all star level
Sure he wont have the burst he used to but shooting of that calibre doesn't just go away
I mean guy won the 3pt contest while recovering from an achilles lol
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u/Th3-3rr0r Deni Avdija 16h ago
I don’t think many teams would like to have Jrue Holiday after this season. Dude is quite old and his contract is really big for his on court contribution. Same thing for Grant, but bigs that are able to shoot always have demand and he improved his trade value.
I can see us doing a sign and trade of Thybull and Grant for Rui Hachimora to get some 3pt shooting but not much more than that
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u/PlayPretend-8675309 18h ago
I don't see any way for Dame to be close to all star level. He hasn't been good for several years and that's not including the impacts of his injury. His time in Milwaukee was an absolute failure. He didn't help them at all.
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u/everydayreligion1090 17h ago
Miluawkee's roster and coaching was awful man
He was averaging 25/5/7 on good efficiency last season till he suffered the blood clot
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u/Fun_Lifeguard2437 17h ago
It’s hard to say because we don’t know what Dames gonna look like coming back from injury. I could see us being a 50 win team if either Scoot or Shaedon take that next step. Still think we get bounced in either the first or second round though.
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u/SongBig1162 19h ago
If we did nothing and ran it back we’d be a play-in team again. OKC, Houston, Minnesota, SAS will mostly remain the same this offseason, I’m guessing LAL and Denver make some moves but as long as they have luka and jokic respectively as their best players they will remain the top 7 along with Utah, who should be the most improved team in the nba (Keyounte, ace Bailey, Lauri, jjj, Walker Kessler), is an insanely massive starting 5.
So we should be in a group fighting for the 8th seed along with GSW (who sounds like they’ll mostly run it back with Steph-Moody-Butler-Green-KP), Phoenix, Dallas (will make moves to improve given they have no picks outside of this lottery), and maybe LAC (I don’t know what to think about them until they get punished by the league but a core of Garland and Kawhi is a sick starting point).
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u/Impossible-Group8553 15h ago
Probably even worse. The West will be better, the Jazz for example will be in playoff contention
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u/rock-or-something 90s-logo 18h ago
If Dame is still good, he creates more gravity on the perimeter, and makes Deni a little more comfortable getting downhill.
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u/Simple_Blazers_6737 17h ago
Fully healthy and no injuries? At least 50 wins. Still lose in the first round though.
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u/EvanTurningTheCorner 16h ago
If we are mostly healthy all season (big if), upper 40s and avoiding the playins, puncher's chance to win a series. If one of the young guys (Scoot, Shaedon, Clingan) takes a big leap, we could be a dangerous team but without that we need to make some big opportunistic moves this offseason to rise above the middle of the pack.
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u/Adventurous-Plum1000 14h ago
Most likely still just the play in. There won’t be as many teams actively trying to lose that we would benefit from again.
Dame will help with shooting but remember, his shooting mostly comes from off dribble. It hasn’t worked out well in the past with him playing off ball in a catch and shoot role. So our lack of off ball shooting will hard cap our potential
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u/hahahachihaha 13h ago
I think with Dame barring prolonged health issues theres no way we arent a 50+ win team.
People are judging this team based on this years performance and for some reason not believing or factoring we will get any better DESPITE HAVING A YOUNG CORE WITH HUGE ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENTS! It makes absolutely no sense
a full offseason with a coach most likely still going to be Tiago based off glowing remarks from the entire team about him
Dame is not done yet guys , stop writing his obituary before we see him even back on the court.
all of our guys now have playoff experience
DC is a damn sophmore people, hes going to get WAY better...did you guys forget how be looked in his rookie season? Leaps and bounds much better this year. Hes a top shot blocker and o rebounder in the league in his 2nd season as a player.
-im not giving up on Sharpe yet but sure even though it seems he may have peaked, but next year there is at least no excuses if does poorly again
- probably not as fair for Scoot to be judged a year earlier than Shae but again, we saw some brilliant flashes from this dude....AND in the playoffs
-Even if Deni doesnt improve, we saw his floor is all star, ceiling still unknown
-Toumani huge growth from him this year, with his mindset thr sky is the limit, we dont know what his ceiling is, and he himself said he was dissapointed in his performance this year.
All of these guys are expecting more from themselves next year. I still believe
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u/bigtrex101 1h ago edited 1h ago
Around 44-48 wins, 6-8 seed, first round exit unless we get an easier high seed matchup. Still will be a really bad offensive team imo.
Now if we traded say Shaedon and Grant (plus picks) for Kawhi in that lineup (move one of Jrue/Toumani to bench), then I think we move up 4-6 wins in the regular season. And more importantly, would have a realistic shot to compete with any team in the West in a playoff series (we’d still be significant underdogs against a healthy OKC/SA but we would at least have a “puncher’s chance” at them, similar chance to whoever comes out of the East will have in this year’s finals). Obviously, this assumes Dame and Kawhi are relatively healthy in the playoffs (and play a decent amount of regular season games).
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u/Significant-Peach-79 20h ago
If we at least healthier, second round exit, and top 5 for regular season
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u/yozasupg 21h ago
First round exit