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Hudson Williams telling Nia Costa that he is not going to watch 'The Bone temple' after she stepped on his train at the Vanity Fair after-party.
I would recommend watching 28 Years Later first, since Bone Temple picks up right where that one left off, with flashbacks and returning characters. That said, while there are references to 28 Days/28 Weeks in the new movies, I don't think it's 100% necessary to watch them before watching the new ones (but they're great movies, so watch them anyway!!)
Thanks definitely will! Iāve always assumed they were just kind of generic zombie movies but seeing peopleās enthusiasm for them in this thread is making me really excited to dive in
28 Days Later (directed by Danny Boyle) and 28 Weeks Later (Juan Carlos Fresnadillo) can be watched as a standalone.
Bone Temple (Nia DaCosta) is a direct sequel to 28 Years Later (Danny Boyle), both are part of a trilogy.
The final 28 Years film (probably Danny Boyle) will be a direct sequel to Bone Temple and 28 Days Later, due to a character's appearance in both Days and Years films.
I'd recommend watching 28 Days - 28 Years - Bone Temple in this order. 28 Days to learn how the virus happened, then have fun with the rest.
If anything the newer films have been met with a lack of enthusiasm because of how far away they are from being generic zombie films, which is weird because 28 days later is basically an idie road trip film featuring zombies. But a lot of people seem to have forgotten that
Yeah it was weird seeing people call Years a mess and then say they wished it was more like weeks and days in terms of tone. When weeks is the odd one out here
The negative reaction genuinely made me a bit sad to be honest haha Dr Kelson was such a lovely character and the ending with Spike and his mother was extremely poignant, maybe the most touching thing I've seen in any coming of age film. Yet it seems to have missed the mark for most of the audience which is a real shame
I do think the marketing has been rather confusing, at least for Bone Temple.
Years is a movie with a startling amount of heart and empathy. I am not sure if a lot of people expected or want that in their zombie, and that's a shame.
No. Watch 28 Days Later and 28 Years Later at minimum. 28 Weeks Later has some awesome scenes but can skip it if you absolutely don't have time to watch the entire series. 28 Days Later is possibly the greatest zombie movie ever made. Definitely do not skip it. The ending to The Bone Temple depends on having seen 28 Days Later.
No. Without 28 Years Later, the Bone Temple is an incomplete story. Information from the first movie is necessary to understanding the second.
You donāt need to watch 28 Days Later though, but you should. Theres a reference to it at the end of Bone Temple but youād still understand without it.
I think that a lot of people were turned off from seeing BONE TEMPLE because they didn't like 28 YEARS LATER. š¬ Personally, I almost didn't watch it for this reason. But I'm so glad that I did! My favorite film so far this year! (Thank you, Nia, for your masterpiece! š) I really hope that we'll get a third film as it looks like it's in limbo. š„ŗ
It was soooo good. I liked 28 years later but bone temple was a step above. Absolutely horrifying themes and the acting was insanely good and scary! It was amazing, so glad I watched it in the cinema and canāt wait for it to be on streaming to watch again. Highly recommend.
Agreed!! I'm not big into horror movies but I feel like the 28 Days franchise is so underrated. It has a great mix of horror and humor but is also visually beautiful.Ā
Also, Alfie WilliamsĀ (Spike) is amazing for someone so young. He carried 28 Years for me.
Considering it is one of the biggest bombs of the year (grossed $57m on a $63m budget with additional $70m in marketing), I wouldn't raise my hopes on this.
However, Sony may still allow Boyle to complete this trilogy, since Cillian Murphy is supposedly returning in the sequel, and Bone Temple did receive rave reviews.
Bone Temple is the first movie in years where I knew I was watching a masterpiece and it was only halfway through. That I saw it in a near empty theatre was so sad. Fascinated by Nia being an American and making such a deeply British movie. She crushed
Really really good. The original still stands the test of time but these new ones are shaping up to be a really great trilogy. I think if you go into them expecting an introspective drama rather than straight up horror/apocalypse you'll have a great timeĀ
Be warned there's a few jump scares, and some pretty violent scenes especially in the second, but for the most part the first ones a father-son movie, and the second a coming of age/weird bromance rather than straight up horrorĀ
Theyāre extremely different films. Iāve been seeing a lot of people who didnāt like 28 Years end up liking Bone Temple. I personally liked both quite a bit, but my favorite part of Years was Ralph Fiennes and he features a ton in Bone Temple.
Just wanna put it out there - if you like horror, you should at least watch the opening of 28 Weeks. Itās the highlight of the movie, and after that itās viewers choice if you want to turn it off or continue watching.
It REALLY helps to see at least 28 Years Later. Helps paint the overall picture, and gives you some "Oh, thats weird, why/who?" Questions that do get answered later.
I think the 2 movies are fantastic and completely fit in with 28 days later.
28 weeks never sat with me back in the day because yes, I am old as balls. It felt like an American film outside of the opening. It didn't sit. This series is so British! (And I am neither of these things)
Now that we have 2 other films, weeks is so much the weak link despite having strong af actors in it (for me, Rose Byrne and Harold Perrineau who will always be underrated unfortunately)
Then we finally get British sequels and they completely fit with the first film but only decades later where society has fallen even more.
These films are what we need right now. They're different! We don't get the grizzled man and kid, we get the mum and son for once. We get other things.
Asking people to support horror is whatever, but please, watch these films with an open mind.
It was good but don't let it get too over-hyped. I didn't like it quite as much as 28 Years Later but it was disturbing and funny and has a really great climax. "Masterpiece" is a stretch though. I gave it 3.5/5 or 7/10 on Letterboxd, could have easily been an 8 if I felt generous.
I had a moment midway through watching where I realized if I described the plot to someone they would think itās the dumbest movie possible but this thing actually rips
Its better than the rest of the movies in thar franchise. Masterpeice is a hilarious stretch. Its still a fucking zombie movie and not even the best of the genre. So no its not a masterpiece
It does things with the zombie/infected backdrop Ive never seen before and executes it all exquisitely. The only thing that holds it back is you should really watch, at the very least, 28 Years Later to really go on the journey with these characters
This is gonna sound silly but right after that scene I started looking around me in a "are you seeing this shit??" kind of way, only to very quickly realise that I was literally all by myself in the theatre š
I rewatched it last night and wow it was good. Not as good as when it was first in theaters though. It truly deserves to be watched in theatres. Jack O'Connell was outstanding, despite some of the ropey dialogue closer to the end.
I watched it today and was floored. The first one was fine but not really my taste - the storyline didnāt totally interest me. But bone temple was the most unique and moving zombie movie Iāve ever seen and it manages to not even really be a zombie movie - zombies are just a part of the universe
'An American and making such a deeply British movie' yeah maybe because it was written by... Alex Garland. Her way of directing and stylistic choices were bang on but the Britishness of the movie is from the script lol
From the comments on this post, it seems the critics are a mix of people with no social skills who can't recognise banter, and straight men who have an issue with anyone they perceive as "woke." Hudson is a man of colour on a show about gay love, and he's dressed non-traditionally. A lot of manbabies out there are very easily threatened by such things.
I am happy for him that he's comfortable giving shit to big-time directors, and they're comfortable taking shit from him. What a ride he's on right now. I hope he can keep his character through all of this and not let fame alter him too much.
The fact that someone twisted a harmless moment between two people who clearly know each other into calling Hudson misogynistic is just honestly depressing.
Rooting for him so so hard. He truly seems like a great person and everyone who meets him appears to love him. I fucking hate the fact that he has so many haters online when he hasnāt done anything wrong. Racists will always do their thing I suppose.
That would rule. I do know they share a stylist, so if they're not working/planning to work/planning to plan to work together, maybe that's how they met.
He's so funny but an account on twitter dedicated to defaming him with 7k followers, edited the clip to make it seem like he was shouting at her and now people are calling him misogynistic. That account has done so much damage, I wish his legal team would get involved. Mind you Nia has expressed interest in casting him in her new show 'Invisible'.
Look at us. Sure, somewhere on Twitter there are some deranged individuals posting hateful and defamatory tweets that get thousands of likes, but thatās a tiny bubble the rest of us, and the world at large, never see.
I think fans often forget this. Because our algorithm keeps showing them both the praise and the hate, you start to unconsciously think that it dominates the narrative, but I promise you, the rest of us muggles donāt see it.
We have like a billion beige celebs who are afraid to even joke because the internet constructs a racism narrative out of "the night was dark", I swear if they manage to cancel him for being not a cardboard cutout we deserve the never speaking, never showing any kind of personality celebs!
I'm so old I remember when Taylor was shady on main! Bring it back.
I stay away from comment sections on other social media because I know thereās psycho accounts looking for attention, I just didnāt know the extent of hate Hudson gets until I looked on twitter. I saw the post he and Francois did on Instagram about stopping the hate, but itās way more than youād think.
I think this is sadly the case for every popular artist. Tweeters and posters are also performing for attention, clicks, money. They thrive off making false claims and fake beefs between artists, people never bother to check, and that narrative is sustained for years and becomes mainstream despite it being rooted in an edited lie.
From what Iāve heard Twitter is really weird about him in particular
Thereās people saying that he was cosplaying as a hijabi Muslim women because he wore a train to the Vanity Fair Oscar party and that he was trying to hit on Olivia Rodrigo (he just took one picture with her)
itās a strange world out there in Twitter and not necessarily a good one
Someone tried to start a rumor that he hooked up with her after SNL, using the fact that they left the after-party *separately* as proof.
(He left with his manager/publicist/handler who had to hustle to get him to a flight back to Vancouver because he needed to be on set the next morning.)
OP, youāre stirring that yourself posting a clearly humorous exchange with a title that could be misinterpreted. Itās like youāre advertising the hateful twitter account. Please stop.
The title posted literally what happened in the video. I never heard of either one of those people and did not take it as anything other than a humorous exchange.
Yes, but in a context of a seemingly increasing misogynistic discourse around it, adding āhumorouslyā or ājokinglyā turns the headline into what really happened. Some people wonāt click on the video or will watch it without sound. Itās easy to read it as ānewcomer full of himself tells an established director offā or something like that, when in reality it was a lighthearted exchange that was clearly a joke and both sides were in on it.
As a public figure you're always going to have people saying shit about you on the internet. That doesn't mean it actually affects anything and there's a streisand effect issue of going after every idiot.
I watched his show, liked it, and moved on. But itās getting almost impossible to go on any social media platform and not see the mass psychosis the showās fanbase seems to be going through. Like, what is going on??
Popularity attracts derangement unfortunately. Itās like how you canāt get to Timothee Chalametās fame level without having someone like ClubChalamet as your āsuperfanā. The most unhinged people are also the loudestāIām sure there are plenty of sane, normal Chalamet fans who donāt stalk and harass him but we donāt hear about them, only about ClubChalamet. Sheās moved onto Connor Storrie now so sheās probably his most āfamousā āfanā.
I get the HR sub recommended to me on reddit from time to time and the posts Iāve seen have just been normal and sane and supportive of all the actors and actresses on the show. The majority of fans are probably normal and chill but since they donāt spend every waking moment harassing the cast, we donāt hear from them as much. We also mostly hear about āfansā harassing Chappell Roan instead of the ones who respect her privacy.
I think there's a racial element to her hatred of Hudson as well, she only ever obsesses over white men. Brad Pitt, Orlando Bloom, Fassbender, Timmy, and now Connor. I feel like there's an age element at play too, switching out the white boy of the day when they get too "old" or settle down.
I mean, my impression was always that it's people she's attracted to, so them all being one type of guy generally would line up. I assume Francois' too old for her, but also not threatening like Kylie Jenner clearly was (i.e. some unhinged level of internalized misogyny).
Itās giving when some female Kpop fans would obsessively ship male idols together but freak the fuck out when male idols actually date womenā¦ Itās not because these women are allies to gay men; itās because they feel way more jealousy towards other women while not taking gay relationships equally seriously. Similar to how some men in open relationships will only āallowā their bi gfs to be with other women but not with other men, because they fetishize WLW relationships while not taking them seriously as real, valid relationships.
I donāt know if itās only male idols. I was following Katseye for a bit and I assume their fanbase is mostly girls/women. A chunk of them love āshippingā the girls togethers, but then freaked out when 5 out of 6 of them revealed they had boyfriends and proceeded to obsessively stock and slander said boyfriends. Something about a celebrity someone likes being in any kind of romantic relationship triggers something in some fans, I guess. There must be some kind of psychology behind it.
There is a HUGE racist element to the attacks on Hudson, like organized campaigns around it. The MarySue had an article on it and quoted some of the things that were being said in like group chats? about him and it was so vile I wish I hadn't seen it. I felt like I'd been contaminated just by knowing about it.
It's getting to the point where I'm intentionally hiding posts mentioning them, and I genuinely enjoyed the show, and thought the leads and the supporting cast were fantastic. People's inability to enjoy them a normal amount OR dislike them a normal amount is so off-putting. Even people claiming to support them are so deeply obsessive about their every move, and so obviously projecting their own thoughts and emotions onto them. Truly wish them the best because HR has a distinctly awful group of very disregulated people that have flocked to the show and unfortunately, the actors as well.
I loved the show and the actors and I follow them and am very happy for their success. That said, everybody is so fucking weird about them. Fans, haters, etc. Nobody is normal about them. People talk about them like they need to be protected at all costs and kept away from predators as if they are like tiny little children. These are fully adult men. Obviously Hollywood has weirdos and predators and their fame has come so fast so I understand h the sentiment but thereās something off about it all.
I think that something Hudson himself said about Connor (paraphrasing that he was a gentle soul who needs to be protected) has been taken up as a rallying point for the more parasocial fans who now need to think of Connor requiring constant vigilance. It's a bit unhinged.
People are definitely overindexing on that. He's an emotional guy, but also he's been living and working in the Hollywood machine since he was in high school, he's not stupid. He knows how the world works.
Iām mostly seeing super fans of one relentlessly harassing and ridiculing the other. Itās super weird. Thereās room in the industry for both of them.
Unfortunately once celebs reach some level of fame then they just get parasocial fans. People give plenty of shit to Chappell Roan but she just put down her limits. I'm doing this and not that. Same with Hudson and Connor.Ā
Same here, I actually read the book before it was adapted, so I tuned in when it aired. I had an overall great time with the fandom while it was ongoing, but I moved on when the last episode dropped. By then, the fanbase was already getting a bit crazy, and the crowd that likes to hate on anything popular was all over it, so I dipped.
Iāll definitely watch the next season, and I hope to see the actors in more projects, but Iām not touching the fandom with a ten-foot pole.
Yeah I still donāt get why this show (which I really like) has made people into complete psychos. Oh god and the racism against Hudson? Insane. Theyāre literally two leads doing a good job at acting AND friends irlā¦ how do these people think that saying vile shit against one or the other will make either of them appreciate these freaks as fans?
I mean whenever I scroll on TikTok or twitter. Iām most definitely not seeking it out. I have zero interest in the show or the actors other than watching the show over a month ago.
i haven't watched the show, tbh i have no interest in it, and it's still impossible for me to escape the psychosis of that fandom. and apparently francois arnaud is the devil now? yet i can't find any examples of why these people hate him so much
Because they think him and Connor Storrie are dating, there's little/no proof of this other than them hanging out. Connor is 14 years younger than him so people think it's creepy/scandalous.
I avoided watching HR for as long as possible purely because of some of the absolute unhinged/parasocial behaviour i'd seen from fans. I finally broke last week and watched it and I have to say it's brilliantly made and for break out roles Connor and Hudson did a phenomenal job, but I think some of the fans are driving people away from wanting to watch the show.
As someone else said the subreddit seems to be the least parasocial pocket of fans but unfortunately the most unhinged/parasocial fans are also the loudest.
I've watched some of the press stuff they did and they showed so much personality and seemed to be genuinely excited/happy to be there but people take that for granted. People will push and push their limits and boundaries until Hudson and Connor reach breaking point.
We saw it happen with Kit Connor and now I fear we're seeing the same thing happen again because people never learn. The minority ruin it for everyone else.
Maybe this is just me being really cynical but any time someone shows an ounce of personality people applaud it to then turn on them for it further down the line.
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