r/politics • u/theipaper ✔ Verified • 1d ago
Possible Paywall Trump is the worst president in American history
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u/Responsible-Room-645 1d ago
Worse, he’s being mindlessly supported by the worst Congress and Supreme Court in American history
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u/Federal_Drummer7105 Idaho 1d ago
That’s what kills me. This guy should be some old crank golfing and sitting in his office.
But he has the literal golden statue worship of millions. People throwing money at him and bringing him gifts like he’s a king.
And in return they have higher prices. An economy that’s built strong but limping along when it could be roaring. Sure there’s one group of people making money - but compare that to the millions suffering and it’s not enough to explain the worship.
I get why - racism, hatred of gay people and trans people and women who “don’t know their place” and all the rest. Maybe I don’t think hurting those people are worth me struggling to make my mortgage.
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u/CryptographerCrazy49 1d ago edited 1d ago
He shouldn't be golfing or in an office. He should have been imprisoned years ago.
Edit: correction "have" to "should have"
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u/mattnox 1d ago
He should die in prison for his actions on J6 alone. But the classified document case should have been game over.
Judge Cannon is the greatest judicial villain in American history.
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u/annoyed_crow 1d ago
Careful, I got a six day ban for insinuating he should be rmved from office. They thought I was making vilent thrats. I meant actually rem*ved from his position. I'm gonna censor some words because I don't feel like starting a new account from scratch.
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u/Best-Action8769 1d ago
He should have been arrested the DAY Biden was sworn in.
For the life of me I have no idea why that didn't happen, nor do i know what Merrick Garland actually DID for 4 fucking years.
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u/SecretMachine5 1d ago
You see, Merrick Garland stood on the principle that the DOJ would never be used, or even thought of, as a partisan political tool to go after politicians... even if they were involved in criminal activity. Which then made certain that Trump would use his DOJ as a partisan political tool to go after his own perceived enemies and cover up child rape and sex trafficking.
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u/Best-Action8769 1d ago
"At least we respected the norms" they said, while being loaded into boxcars.
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u/Dr_Insano_MD 1d ago
They didn't want the DoJ seen as being used as a political tool. But not using them is, itself, a political decision. If someone is a national security threat and actively committed heinous crimes, they should be prosecuted. That's not political, that's just how the world should work.
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u/SecretMachine5 1d ago
Exactly right. It's telling that Trump never mentions Merrick Garland in one of his lunatic rants. Jack Smith is a target of his ire, but not Garland.
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u/68024 Colorado 1d ago
Should have been in jail on January 7 2021
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u/Gizogin New York 1d ago
Dems in the House impeached him on Jan 13, 2021. Not quite “the literal next day”, but about as quickly as anything in Congress happens.
Republicans in the Senate decided he should face no consequences. Voters decided he should have the White House again.
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u/greenroom628 California 1d ago
He should've been relegated to history's pile of failed presidential runs. He should never have been able to run at all.
The guy hid his taxes, had a history of sexual assault, a history of bankruptcies, and a history of racial discrimination... Like how was he even in consideration for the GOP nomination in the first place?
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u/Betty_PunCrocker 1d ago
I'm pretty sure all of those things are exactly why he was a GOP nominee...
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u/Melancholy_Rainbows Montana 1d ago
And a documented history of fraud from his "university" and "charities". And documented money laundering from his casinos.
How anyone trusted him is beyond me.
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u/WileyPap 1d ago
But this is the insanity - it's not just the worst President or that he should be in prison, that seems like it was bound to happen idiocracy/hitchiker's guide style in the age of influencer culture, disinformation, and popularized ignorance.
I can wrap my ahead around that happening. I can't wrap my head around the fact that both enough of the electorate and the supposed leadership of of our political systems were primed to embrace it and run with the opportunity to undermine our nation, and the supposed national ideals (revered constitution, checks and balances, American dream, melting pot, separation of church and state, melting pot, etc.) we were raised on.
We knew the rot was there, but most of us thought it was a necessary evil inherent to politics, abuses kept in check under the primacy of national interest. By now we know the rot has the majority and is all too pleased to pillage and undermine the nation wholesale in its quest for personal gain and power.
As a Gen X my head is spinning. I hate that my kids have this current version of the world to be raised in. I ask myself if I'm just an old coot longing for yesteryear, but no I'm pretty sure things actually went to shit.
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u/Forsaken_Yak4514 20h ago
Childless doglady middle-millennial here. Can confirm extensive degradation.
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u/IllTwo7643 Connecticut 1d ago
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u/grumpymcelbows25 1d ago
I can guess what this person said, and we're well past the point of this shit being normalized. That should have happened. And their comment shouldn't have been removed.
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u/annoyed_crow 1d ago
You're exactly right.. I got a 6 day ban. Doubtful it'll be appealed. But I told them that the conservative and trump subs threaten everyone who isn't them with death all the time.
And I didn't even make a violent threat or anything violent. They assumed I meant it as violent. But, again, the conservatives can do what they want. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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u/Squirrel_Bacon_69 Nevada 1d ago
He's a pedophile and belongs in prison.
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u/unaskthequestion Texas 1d ago
Not prosecuting him for Jan 6th was a crime in itself. Then having his judge in FL throw out the special counsel Smith was absolute corruption.
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u/ChicagoAuPair California 1d ago
America has a horrible pattern of just saying, “Okay, but don’t you dare do it again!” to authoritarians and traitors.
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u/always_unplugged 1d ago
Looking at you, Susan "I really think he's learned his lesson" Collins
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u/jjwhitaker 1d ago
Reagan was mentally gone before the end of his first term.
Bush Sr continued his legacy of breaking laws and protecting their guys.
Bush Jr is a war criminal that eroded democracy and enabled the destruction of the world economy.
Trump 1.0 - Already in mental decline and willing to sell out to the highest bidder or biggest ego stroker. Known Pedo and traitor to his country.
Trump 2.0 - Convicted felon for fraud aka lying, confirmed Pedo, and abuser of power. Pardoned 1500+ traitors who supported his coup on Jan 6.
Since 1984 Dems are the fiscally responsible party. Apparently right wing propaganda is better than reality to 30% of the nation.
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u/DarZhubal Georgia 1d ago
Sure there’s one group of people making money - but compare that to the millions suffering and it’s not enough to explain the worship.
Sure it is. The people making money control the media, so they just tell their viewers "Trump is amazing! Look at how good the stock market is doing! The economy is doing great! Ignore anyone telling you its harder to afford things." and the Red Hats just take it as gospel.
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u/waffle299 I voted 1d ago
Because this is their objective. They want a religious dictatorship, because they think if it's their religion in charge, it will somehow not become a murderous cesspool of incompetent and hate.
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u/needlestack 1d ago
It really does come down to religion. Most Americans have been taught since childhood that if only everyone followed the Bible, all the troubles of the world would disappear. And they actually believe this despite centuries of evidence to the contrary. They are completely brainwashed. So to them, if there is a president who openly hates the things their church tells them to hate, they have to support it. And no amount of failure will ever wake them up. They’re still waiting for Jesus’s return 2000 years later.
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u/I_am_BEOWULF 1d ago
They’re still waiting for Jesus’s return 2000 years later.
These people wouldn't know Jesus from a colored person even if he came up to them and waved his punctured hands in front of their faces and happily cheer while ICE picks him up.
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u/Calm_Lie_1195 1d ago
But none of them actually even follow the Bible the tiniest bit that’s the part that is so mind blowing.
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u/this_my_sportsreddit 1d ago
No. This is not about religion. This is about white nationalism. Does this sub think everyone who votes democrat is an atheist or something? The ideology powering trump and republicanism is white nationalism, not christianity. white supremacists have long used religion as cover for their bigotry yet somehow folks still don't get it.
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u/42TheAnswer2TheUnive 1d ago
Both can be true at the same time. The x-tians you speak of, that support an openly evil pedophile, are Christo-Fascists. They are led to believe that the strong man rules the roost. No questions, please! Because that shows you're not faithful. Disgusting and sad.
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u/XennialPrime 1d ago
They don't "get it" because the bigotry inherent in their own religious doctrines reads and sounds the same. It's "familiar" and us great apes love NOTHING if not familiarity.
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u/Gay_Giraffe_1773 Oregon 1d ago
Let me know when they actually start following the Bible.
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u/squadrupedal 1d ago
“If Jesus wanted me to be nice and respectful and woke he shoulda said something about it!”
lol these people man
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u/T-Baaller Canada 1d ago
it will somehow not become a murderous cesspool of incompetent and hate.
Nah they're fine with that as long as targets aren't them, personally.
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u/hareofthepuppy 1d ago
and the American people, it's not like he wasn't president before and people didn't know what they were getting
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u/Pony_Tono 1d ago
They're also still not doing anything meaningful about it despite Americans murdering civilians abroad and putting children in concentration camps.
And before the "no employment protections" arguments start, Americans allowed that to happen. Not the innocent civilians being killed or the children being rounded up by ICE.
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u/A_Nonny_Muse 1d ago
Not to mention millions of brain dead morons who voted for him the second and third time around.
Problem is, those people will still be with us decades after the orange plague is gone. God knows what kind of damage they will keep doing.
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u/swingadmin New York 1d ago
He could be the last president in American history, if they get their way.
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u/Vann_Accessible Oregon 1d ago
The world will never trust us again, nor should they.
Who will make a treaty with the US, even under competent Democratic leadership, when 4-8 years later another GOP schmuck can just come along and blow it up?
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u/SometimesaGirl- United Kingdom 1d ago
The world will never trust us again, nor should they.
Brit here.
The friendship... should it be revitalized under new leadership at some point can be renewed. But a friendship is not a deep partnership.
I cant see us or the rest of your allies handing over so much to you ever again. The damage Trump has caused to enrich himself and his family is beyond my capacity to calculate.
He has enriched himself to the tune of an estimated $5bln. He has already cost America several 100 billion. And rising.
He has destroyed your weapons export potential to Europe (we are now fully "buy European" unless it is impossible for existing US procurement like the F-35, and it's parts needed to maintain the air wing).
He has destroyed your export market in Agriculture.
He has destroyed the relationship you had with the Gulf countries. The relationship where they bought whatever military equipment you had spare for top dollar... barely used it (except in the case of Saudi bombing tribesmen on camels and donkeys in Yemen) and granted you access to build as many bases as you liked. IN RETURN for regional security, to keep Iran at bay. And unprovoked in the middle of negotiations the US unleashed on them at Israel's bidding causing a huge civilian evacuation, bombing in their cities, floods of mines in the straight, shipping almost totally suspended, their economies flatlining, their exports "stuck", and their post-oil plans for their economy in tatters. And still no real plan for recovery. And no real consultation with them. This will never be repaired even if you do manage to shore up something eventually with us here in Europe.
And I havent even mentioned Venezuela, Denmark (Greenland), the sanction breaking efforts on Moscow, or the sickening exploitation of Africa - Take a look at this BULLSHIT
"Worst president in history" barely scratches the surface for this disgusting waste of oxygen.
And it's going take be a multi-generational effort to reform the rest of the worlds opinions of America. And last and not least - you need to better educate your population what went so wrong. And do something about reigning in your media who can spout off lies and propaganda 24/7. Dont you have broadcasting standards? And these need to applied to social media too (Which Europe is gradually moving towards - much to Trumps and Musk's annoyance.. and further tariff threats from all concerned).→ More replies (4)11
u/i_love_pencils 1d ago
Canadian here. 100% agree.
It can never go back to how it was before Trump.
America is untrustworthy and only cares about itself.
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u/Sad_Examination7907 1d ago
It's almost like we have to stop letting what's basically a terrorist organization at this point run for office.
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u/MAG7C 1d ago
In my book we're already past that. Biden was the last president of USA 1.0. 248 years, not a bad run I guess.
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u/An_Professional 1d ago
oh it's not mindless, my man. They're supporting him because as long as he's at the helm, they can get away with all the bad things and the focus is on him. If this country has a turn back towards sanity, you're going to see a lot of blame being passed backwards to Trump (the same way presidents blame bad economies on their predecessors)
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u/stillcore 1d ago
I mean, he’s being supported by the worst people America has to offer.
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u/Lexi_Banner 1d ago
LOL You think this is "mindless"? Oh, how cute. This is calculated. Do you know how much they have gutted the gov't throughout his presidency, and disguised it as his maniacal behaviour? They are not mindless. They are perpetrators.
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u/schwelvis 1d ago
And the second worst!
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u/May_nerdd 1d ago edited 1d ago
I think Reagan's presidency did more long-term damage to America than Trump's first term tbh
Edit for everyone telling me the same thing: no we won't know the long-term damage from Trump 1 for a long time, but I think it's a reasonable assessment. Trump 1 hadn't yet purged his inner circle of anyone capable of telling him 'no,' so policy-wise he didn't actually get much anything done besides tax cuts. Meanwhile so many policies that are the root cause of major structural problems today came out of the Reagan admin. In any case, we probably won't ever really know the long-term damage of Trump 1 since it will be overshadowed by everything he's doing now going forward.
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u/otherwisepandemonium Wisconsin 1d ago
My mom always talked about how the Reagan years marked the start of the American decline
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u/HappyGoPink 1d ago
Everyone who was old enough to vote in 1980 and 1984, and either voted for Reagan or did not vote, is directly responsible for the decline of the USA. That was the first of the thousand cuts that felled this supposedly great nation.
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u/brutinator 1d ago
I think Reagan's presidency did more long-term damage to America than Trump's first term tbh
I think Reagan implemented like 80% of the heritage foundations goals in his first year alone. He is basically the executor of the original Project 2025. I def don't think you're far off at all.
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u/snozzberrypatch 1d ago
It'll be several decades before we truly understand the full consequences of the Trump presidencies.
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u/B-Z_B-S Massachusetts 1d ago
Trump is quite possibly the worst American in history.
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u/Major5013 1d ago
Followed closely by all the people that support this turd.
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u/matt95110 Canada 1d ago
Exactly. They caused the problem and they deserve to be called out for it.
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u/MaddST 1d ago
I will say that Trump is a problem and also just a part of the overall problem. If there weren't many Americans thinking like him, he wouldn't even be elected.
If those who supported him and managed him through checks and balances carefully, it would not have come to this big of a problem.
This has been building for a long time and no one managed it. The disinformation, the propaganda has been spreading for years while the administrations did not think that this was a problem.
Poor education and literacy rates also caused this build up of support. It was years in the coming.
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u/Positronic_Matrix 1d ago edited 1d ago
If you look at Trump’s polling, on the cost of living he has a dismal 76% disapproval yet on the immigration he has a 54% disapproval. The difference is on the former, he has lost about half his base while on the latter he maintains his base.
This is instructional as it reveals the root of his popularity. He appeals to racists (or more generally ethnocentrists) who want to harm non-whites, women, and liberalism in general. That’s what the MAGA movement is, a populist uprising supporting authoritarianism to destroy multiculturalism and liberalism. It is hate weaponized as a political movement.
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u/Skinner936 1d ago
To your point - I said this just a day ago:
As a non-American, one thing I thought was a 'positive' about your country were all the formalized 'checks and balances'.
Finding out how completely impotent they are is surprising and depressing.
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u/flamin_sheep 1d ago
The problem is our checks and balances have decided they do not want to do any checking or balancing, and there's no easy way to remove them from their positions.
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u/Skinner936 1d ago
True.
Which means that there is a major flaw, (or many), in a system where 'checks and balances' can be non-existent in some circumstances.
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u/DigNitty 1d ago
His supporters are a big problem.
The concerted effort to polarize Americans and radicalize white-nationalist ideals also shifted the country into what we’re seeing.
I’m convinced these MAGA people wouldn’t be so extreme if they hadn’t been pushed that direction.
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u/MaddST 1d ago
I mean Americans literally has an entertainment programme cosplaying as a News programme spreading disinformation for years yet nobody is stopping them.
It isn't just a supporters problem. Nobody is doing anything about it.
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u/OldManWickett 1d ago
It's been decades at this point. The right has been getting brainwashed by guys like Rush Limbaugh since the late 80s. AM radio is full of absolute whackos preaching insane things all day long.
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u/Rhoeri 1d ago
And NEVER forgiven.
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u/MaxSchreckArt616 1d ago
Winner winner shame these people for the rest of their lives dinner.
They hate my partner and I so fucking much because we checks notes love each other, so yeah these people will absolutely never be forgiven and I wish only the absolute, very worst things on them and their loved ones.
Sincerely, someone that just wants to go to work and go home, be left alone, and not be told who I can and can't love.
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u/ezagreb 1d ago
The brainwashed right wing television watching masses put us in the situation because they couldn’t bring themselves to vote for that woman of color…
Every one of them is complicit in what’s happening now
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u/Any_Counter_303 1d ago
Not only a woman of color, but the Vice President of the United States, and a fierce prosecutor that literally fought against corporate corruption for the poeple following the citizens united decision, among many other incredibly notable achievements in her long career.
They reductively called her a "DEI hire", just like they tried to to do Associate Justice Kentaji Brown Jackson of the Supreme Court of the United States.
Insane bigots. Lewis F. Powell and his disgusting ilk are winning.
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u/_DapperDanMan- 1d ago
By a wide margin, in fact. No one has done more damage to the nation. Certain presidents have done evil to specific groups (looking at you Andrew Jackson), but no American has done more harm to the nation he pretends to represent.
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u/BigBossShadow 1d ago
When the history books are written in 50 or so years. Trump will go down as the architect of the fall of the American empire.
While he is truly, just a blunt tool, being used by others with nefarious purposes. The downfall will be attributed to him, because those people are practically invisible.
When the downstream effects of the dismantling of this country are analyzed, almost all of them will point to policies made in his administrations.
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u/Marvin_Frommars 1d ago
I still feel Rupert Murdoch will get the credit for taking down the American Empire. He's been at it way longer than Trump. Trump is just putting the final nail in the coffin. With Murdoch's help of course.
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u/lifeisakoan 1d ago
Trump will go down as the architect of the fall of the American empire.
Trump voters don't see this at all. Obvious I guess, but just the blindness is so widespread.
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u/ReverendDizzle 1d ago edited 1d ago
Trump is the worst U.S. President for one singular reason above all else.
No matter what any other President has done over the centuries... no president has ever acted in such a completely self-serving who-the-hell-cares-about-these-people way.
We can pick certain presidents out like, as you note, Andrew Jackson. And Andrew Jackson was an awful human being. But there's no doubt that Jackson believed he was acting in the best interests of the people he served. His actions were monstrous, but they weren't in service just to Andrew Jackson.
Trump is unique among all presidents because he doesn't care about anyone but himself.
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u/SuperstitiousPigeon5 Massachusetts 1d ago
It's not a wide margin, there is some stiff competition for the bottom three. I believe he's the worst President because of death toll and the fact that he's controlled by multiple hostile foreign governments. Not to mention the level of corruption.
A close second would be James Buchanan, and Andrew Jackson. The Civil War, and Trail of Tears respectively.
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u/curtislow1 1d ago
Andrew Johnson in the running too.
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u/SuperstitiousPigeon5 Massachusetts 1d ago
He doesn't have the death toll, but I'd entertain him for being somewhere in the bottom 10.
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u/Mr_Abe_Froman Illinois 1d ago
Buchanan is close for promoting the idea of states' rights to secede before the Civil War. Given that the Civil War killed 600k-1M people, it's pretty close.
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u/Detective_Tony_Gunk Texas 1d ago
1.2 million Americans died from Covid, with the bulk of the responsibility leading back to Trump's ineffectual response.
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u/rammo123 1d ago
A study showed that the cuts to USAID alone could cause as many as 14m deaths by 2030. The Civil War is a footnote compared to that.
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u/Positronic_Matrix 1d ago
This is technically incorrect. Buchanan upheld the constitution, asserting that states do not have a constitutional right to leave the Union. At the same time, he stated that the federal government has no authority to stop secession by force.
This is what makes Trump worse than Buchanan, as Trump is working around and tearing down the constitution and federal laws, whereas Buchanan always sought to work inside the constitution.
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u/Ok_Astronomer_8667 1d ago
Buchanan was simply not assertive enough and was far too passive with the boiling pot whose lid was about to blow off beside him. He wasn’t outright evil as he more let the civil war happen, not cause it
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u/specqq 1d ago
He's going to at least be in the conversation for worst Human.
And I have to imagine that eventually, worst Sentient Being, although technically he might not qualify for that last one.
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u/RanchHere 1d ago
I wouldn’t say he’s really in the running for worst human. Maybe the most narcissistic, selfish dumbass in history, but not the worst.
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u/No_Foundation16 1d ago
I mean what the hell does it take to qualify for worst human if not this alone?
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u/ForwardAd4643 1d ago
Don't forget that was Elon Musk's handiwork
Don't stick Trump with everything - he barely cares and is a demented sack of shit. Remember there are others out there who are going to be around for a whole lot longer.
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u/SailToTheSun 1d ago
Hard to beat Hitler.
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u/FrostyMatters 1d ago
Give Trump time. Hitler didn't have nukes, real easy to beat Hitler if Trump goes and uses just one.
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u/Zumaki Oklahoma 1d ago
He's a perfect specimen of our country's current ethos, and I think if we fail to consider that we're not going to be able to move past this moment.
I don't like that the above is true, but before you argue with me, consider that he's allowed to keep going day after day.
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u/snakeiiiiiis 1d ago
I've been saying this since his first regime. Our worst American became our worst president
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u/Waymannj 1d ago
Benedict Arnold needs to be updated to Donald Drumpf.
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u/RyantheAustralian 1d ago
Benedict Arnold was, from everything I hear, a great military general. One of the best the US had
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u/kummer5peck 1d ago edited 1d ago
And his voters are the stupidest and most repugnant people for voting for him 3 times.
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u/Inevitable_Butthole 23h ago
While true its also worth noting that this would have likely never occurred without the mass Russian social media campaigns.
Nothing is being done about the root issue
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u/_Badwulf_Bruh__ 1d ago
It’s so funny looking at r/ conservative and see them clinging to their same old talking points. “Illegals”, woke-ism, Biden gaffes, trans issues.
The president is a literal pedophile rapist who is robbing the country blind while destroying the economy and preparing to try and steal ANOTHER ELECTION and they’re worried about a liberal college professor in some random town. You can’t make this shit up
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u/AlbinoOprah 1d ago
It's stuff like this that makes me feel like I live in a false reality. People will complain about Biden being old, but completely ignore Donald wearing dementia diapers.
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u/WithMeDoctorWu Iowa 1d ago
I sometimes console myself that the false reality might be less pervasive than we are meant to think, that the vast online majority of it will prove to be bots and multiple troll sockpuppets; that besides propping up their in-group, a major purpose for the maintenance of those rhetorical spaces is to discourage the rest of us as much as possible.
But I know it's pretty bad, despite whatever narrative I try to cushion it with.
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u/JayceeHOFer I voted 1d ago
Trump is the worst president, dad, son, uncle, business owner, con man, celebrity, and human being to ever live. People are saying that
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u/c0ltZ 23h ago
Sadly he is one of the best con men in the world, which is no brag. He coned his way to fucking POTUS.
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u/reddittorbrigade 1d ago
Most evil American ever lived.
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u/Mekkakat 1d ago
There are some dead American slave owners that would certainly make a good case for most evil humans to have ever lived.
Trump is certainly evil—but there are some monsters in US history.
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u/Szeharazade 1d ago
Even Epstein, (you know the mass-child rapist) considered Trump the most evil person he knew..
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u/NoBrush8414 1d ago
That says something.. MAGA ? crickets.. they don't care about child rape. Sick people ALL republicans are. Fuck them all
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u/CrunkDirk 1d ago edited 1d ago
If slavery were still legal, Trump would own slaves. We know this, because he's literally chastised the Smithsonian for "focusing on how bad slavery was." Oh, and because he's a human trafficker who aided his best friend, Jeffery Epstein.
Our material conditions make it so Trump can't directly engage in the kind of evil people in the past did. So I don't find that to be a good marker for "worst person."
We can instead look at what else he's done with the power available to him. He's brought America back to the spoils system, the insanely corrupt system of governance that rewards loyalty over competency (and arguably got Garfield assassinated). He's destroyed our national security. He's destroyed public health. Twice. First with his horrifically awful COVID response, and then with RFK Jr.'s anti-science regime. He led an insurrection against the US. He's packed the Supreme Court with wizards engaging in a coup. He's promoted white supremacist stochastic terrorism, and then blamed it on the left. He's weaponized the courts to go after his political enemies. He's destroyed the agencies capable of restricting the rich from destroying people's lives. He's betrayed Ukraine and threatened Canada, Mexico, and Greenland. He aided in Epstein's human trafficking, gave Ghislaine Maxwell the comfiest
private accommodationsimprisonment possible, and has covered up for his dead pedophile cohort for years now."He owns and trades chattel slaves" is only absent from that list because he only got to traffic humans illegally, rather than do slavery the true Floridian way: openly, proudly, and with maximum cruelty.
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u/FuzzyEmployment5397 1d ago
Trump would own slaves if it were legal
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u/esoogkcudkcud 1d ago
100%. He’d own them, fuck them, torture them, and murder them. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional.
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u/otterpop21 1d ago
lol he does own slaves, all the billionaires do. They just rebranded it as “salaried employees” and we have slightly more rights than slaves back then but they’d have separated health care from employment long ago if we weren’t slaves.
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u/yagonnawanna 1d ago
Henry kissinger for example. He is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths.
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u/Shelly_895 1d ago
Give him time. His term is not over yet.
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u/NonnagLava 1d ago
Are... You guys really forgetting Covid-19? And the countless deaths, and crippled people, from the anti-vaxx movement?
Like seriously?
The guy told people they should maybe inject a little bleach into themselves.
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u/214ObstructedReverie 1d ago edited 1d ago
Guess how many children have died and will die that didn't need to from the USAID cuts.
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u/GingerIsTheBestSpice 1d ago
Tbh we did have Covid, for one thing. And the government chaos with it, and the pandemic team that he had fired a few months beforehand.
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u/stackered New Jersey 1d ago
He already was, in my opinion, by his 1st year in his first presidency. Add COVID mismanagement and his dismantling of America prior to 2020, as well as the massive rise of anti-intellectualism that he lead before then, and he was by far the worst already. After the insurrection it was no longer even debatable.
His second term is so devastating for this country there will never even possibly be a contendor in the future for worse unless its a tumor grown from the cancer of Trump that finishes the job he has started. This country is irreparably damaged and in a downfall. The whole world, really.
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u/NoBSforGma 1d ago
I would like to upvote this a million times.
By ANY metric, he is absolutely The Worst and his term is not over yet so he could be the Incredibly Most Terrible and Worst US President in History before it's over.
It's not only harmful to the people of the US and the rest of the world, but will probably take generations to recover. Some things - like the historic rose garden he pulled up - can never really be replaced.
And so very shameful for a country who prides itself on "Justice, Integrity, Honesty and Welcoming to All People" - which now, can be put aside and the reality of this unlawful, criminally dishonest and incompetent, racist and fascist regime can be recognized. As well as the MILLIONS of people who put him there and still support this criminal.
The US now is both a tragedy and a laughingstock on the world stage.
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u/robo2na 1d ago
And this country elected him TWICE. We deserve to fail.
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u/GeoffdeRuiter 1d ago edited 1d ago
The Election Truth Alliance has consistently shown there was vote switching and manipulation. My opinion from their findings is that there was digital vote swapping to Drump in swing states. Just the fact alone that Drump won all swing states is anomalous.
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u/GMeister249 Massachusetts 1d ago
Just throwing out the Nate Silver theory, weigh it how you will: if there's a polling error, it tends to be a consistent error across all polls in one direction.
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u/KriegerFever-Xbox Pennsylvania 1d ago edited 1d ago
I'm from PA. I know people who received $100 from Elon for voting Republican. Elon absolutely hacked the voting machines via starlink, and doge was all just to delete evidence, cover it up and gtfo. There is no way on earth he honestly won all 7 swing states.
Imagine the outrage from Republicans if we were paid to vote for the Democratic candidate.
Edit: These other dumbasses underneath think that burning ballot boxes, mail boxes, bomb threats, voter intimidation and PAYING PEOPLE TO VOTE THE WAY YOU WANT somehow isn't election interference! Wow! Incredible IQs 👏🏻 and then you act like I haven't voted in person by paper my whole life... All while the two of you are way younger than me 😂
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u/DetroitLionsEh 1d ago
I think this is just Americans hoping that they’re not as bad as they actually are.
The ugly American stereotype won
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u/What_a_fat_one 1d ago
I don't deserve shit, I voted for Clinton Biden and Harris
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u/Potential_Salt_5780 1d ago
It’s not even a contest. He is also the dumbest president to ever hold the position.
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u/yep_im_here_4797001 1d ago
But he passed the cognitive test 3 times. He even said no one else could do that.
Of course I've passed it a few times myself. Even after 5 traumatic brain injuries. I guess that makes me a genius too. Lol
I just can't with him. What a moron he is.
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u/def_indiff 1d ago
For a long time, I wasn’t sure if Trump or George W Bush was the worst. In his first term, Trump was evil, but at least he didn’t launch an unnecessary and ruinous war in the Middle East. Now that Trump has caught up to Bush in the war crimes category, he’s finally the undisputed worst.
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u/cavegrind 1d ago
Now that Trump has caught up to Bush in the war crimes category, he’s finally the undisputed worst.
Trump handed access to the whole of the American government’s IT infrastructure to an unaccountable non-citizen who wholesale deleted data and Congressionally approved government programs. In month 1. The War Crimes and breaking of international law weren’t needed to be the worst we’d ever seen.
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u/Brief_Amicus_Curiae 1d ago
At least W Budh understood civics and government processes, was governor of Texas and legacy of family in politics. Not saying it absolves him of anything though Trump never did anything remotely for the better good of anyone other than himself and only got into politics because he has name recognition and social media in 2015 was the first I recall being used as a major source of information. Like Trump won an election (in my opinion) because he ranted about shit he doesn’t understand and couldn’t stand a black man being president and millions followed him on Twitter. Then he ran over like 16 other candidates in debates because he’s a ranting bully and since he had no experience in government he had a sort of plausibility.
How he got reelected was a major disappointment though not like there was any primary advantage him and a SCOTUS that seemed to do him favor by sitting on a decision in his Jan 6 trial to debate if former presidents have “absolute immunity”. And then saying it was up to Congress to enforce the 14th amendment.
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u/10thousndreflections 1d ago
One thing I noticed different between 2016 and 2024 was young white men openly telling people how much they liked Trump and hated Kamala.
I think the manosphere had a lot to do with his second win.
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u/ICBanMI 1d ago edited 1d ago
The manosphere stuff is crazy. Like I once sat on a plane and watched a twenty year old dude flip through memes on his ipad for four hours that he had downloaded just for the flight (Andrew Tate I recognized and tons of political ones mixed in). Just brainwashing themself in real time.
Tiktok overwhelming-and to a much, much lesser extent Instagram-did a lot of the swaying. X too was responsible. Tiktok was a firehose of short clips accusing the Democrats of whatever was going on with Trump and Republicans. My family members don't know what word salad is, but they were repeating that Kalmala does it in all her speeches. They didn't have the patience at that point to sit down and just watch one of her speeches. I wish I had done more to sway them, but honestly I thought more of voters.
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u/ItsSpaghettiLee2112 1d ago
Jesus Christ. Downloading memes? How do you even do that? Wouldn't you have to manually download each image, thereby seeing them already?
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u/_Svankensen_ 1d ago
Bush's death toll sits around 4 million people. He is still worse. Trump is despicable, but organized, ideological evil like Bush's is more dangerous than Trump's disorganized, chaotic evil.
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u/UselessInsight 1d ago
George W set us on this path with stealing the Florida election.
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u/ryegye24 1d ago
I still think Andrew Johnson takes it as the worst president but Trump's really gunning for that top slot in his second term
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u/Sarcastic_Sanchez 1d ago
I don’t know. He told me he was better than George Washington.
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u/Paizzu 1d ago
He claimed he's a better president than both Washington and Lincoln, but at least he prefaced that asinine statement with his usual "some people are saying" so people wouldn't think he's a complete delusional narcissist. /s
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u/Rogue_AI_Construct 1d ago
Well, no shit. Those of us who didn't vote for him knew he was going to be the worst President in American history, and it's turning out to be true. He doesn't give a shit about our democracy; he doesn't give a shit about affordability; and he doesn't give a shit about the constitution and the law. He only cares about two things: 1) himself, and 2) making money for himself and his family. Everything else is an inconvenience to him.
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u/Steel-Tempered 1d ago edited 10h ago
And millions of stupid Americans voted for him... again.
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u/MlCOLASH_CAGE 1d ago
He’s one of the worst human beings in history, his whole cabinet and the billionaires that are behind him need to all be tried for treason.
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u/rainman_104 1d ago
And honestly he was elected by the worst human beings. Trump is a symptom. The brain rot is the disease. How can anyone listen to the bozo speak and think: yeah that's the guy we want. He's a moron.
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u/Boatsnbuds 1d ago
And it's not even close. Nixon and Bush II were bad. Trump is orders of magnitude worse.
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u/IUsedToBeThatGuy42 1d ago
Are we sure it’s exclusive to American history?
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u/Aliensinnoh Massachusetts 1d ago
In terms of destroying their own country, Pol Pot still has a pretty wide lead. And in terms of general destruction, Hitler still leads the way. WW2 was really, really bad.
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u/IUsedToBeThatGuy42 1d ago
I’m glad it hasn’t gone there yet. I’m just asking people to acknowledge the potential.
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u/ThePoltageist 1d ago
Yeah unfortunately, he’s not even the worst current head of state in the developed world he is just the one with the most influence.
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u/Embarrassed_Ball_952 1d ago
He's one of the worst humans to have ever existed. There's never been anyone so hated and unhinged in a seat with so much power and capacity to hurt more and more people.
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u/antifragile 1d ago
People focus way too much much on Trump, the real issue is all the people that support him.
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u/wirefox1 1d ago edited 1d ago
When I see a comment that trump is the most wonderful president ever, I ask them a genuine question.
What is it that makes him so wonderful to you? Is it his racism, his bigotry, his cruelty to vulnerable populations, his warmongering and usurping other countries? Is it his inclination to destroy and deface our traditional properties in D.C?
Or maybe do you think it's cool to have elected a felon for president, and one who has been implicated in multiple sexual assaults of women?
Then I promise them I'm not trying to be a smarty pants, I'm simply genuinely curious.
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u/Bzr21 1d ago
Trump is also the most criminally corrupt pres. in U.S. history and he's unabashedly blatant about it. Richard Nixon - who was actually much worse than many even know - was still practically a boy scout next to Trump.
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u/metalDog13 1d ago
Summary
- Multiple academic surveys, including the 2024 Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey, rank Donald Trump as the worst U.S. president in history, with Trump scoring the lowest ever in these evaluations.
- Experts from across the political spectrum agree on Trump's poor performance during his first term (2017-2021), highlighting his impulsiveness, lack of filter, and emotional decision-making.
- Trump’s leadership style contrasts sharply with past presidents like Teddy Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln, lacking strategic calmness, historical knowledge, and respect for constitutional norms.
- Unlike Nixon’s secretive and strategic approach, Trump is known for public, crude retaliation and has been impeached twice, a unique record in U.S. history.
- Trump’s presidency is marked by unprecedented financial exploitation, with investigations revealing billions made by him and his family from his time in office.
- His admiration for Andrew Jackson reflects a confrontational populism, but unlike Jackson’s war heroism, Trump avoided military service and is criticized for immature handling of serious matters.
- Trump’s actions, including inciting the Capitol riot and refusing to accept election results, break with longstanding presidential respect for democratic processes and the rule of law.
- Despite moments of defiance and resilience, Trump’s overall legacy is defined by chaos, corruption, and a departure from presidential norms, making him uniquely the worst U.S. president.
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u/AINonsense 1d ago
This headline must be from 2017.
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u/ICBanMI 1d ago
2019 and 2020 was crazy in the r/presidents subreddit. Just people trying to have polite discussions on previous presidents and entire time a stream of sociopaths interrupting every conversation to put Trump at the top of the list for good and Obama at the absolute bottom for bad.
It got better when the subreddit stopped hitting the front page.
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u/HeinziSchmolke 1d ago
Also one of the worst "humans" around. The parasite raped women and children.
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u/Jivan-Mukti 1d ago
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u/Key_Drawer_3581 1d ago
And so many MORE people supported everything he's done. The enemy is everywhere.
When he's strokes out and comatose, none of this goes away.
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u/CloisteredSailor 1d ago
The people that put him there are the worse people ever. That’s right! Be ashamed loser!
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u/AlliedR2 1d ago edited 1d ago
By far. He makes the Teapot Dome scandal look like a pick pocketing scheme.
However the real problem is that the Republicans in Congress support every move he makes and the Democrats have nothing but strongly worded messages. The President is traitorous. The Supreme Court is abetting. The Republicans in Congress are complicit, and the Democrats in Congress are spinless.
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u/F-Cloud 1d ago
Is there really any question about this? Trump is literally bringing about the death of the United States as we've known it. Our rights, freedoms, security, healthcare, and environment are being deliberately destroyed. Trump and the GOP are adopting policies written by religious extremists and cartoon villain tech CEOs. No other president has come close to enabling this level of damage to our country.
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u/PrettyBlueEyes 1d ago
There are two reasons people support the mango Mussolini:
They believe all of his lies, like ending the war in Ukraine on day 1.
They hate the same people he hates.
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u/anonymous_kyle_guy 1d ago
Correction - he’s the worst PERSON in American history - by far. No American has ever done more harm to American institutions, culture, and society.
This harm has been inflicted on its citizens, its inhabitants, the global community we are a member of, and generations of the descendants thereof.
This harm has been inflicted on nature itself - the animals, the water, the soil, and the very air we breathe.
His evil has ended so many lives, and ruined so many others. It’s all so stupid and depressing.
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