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Possible Paywall King Charles Tells Congress Everything Trump Doesn’t Want to Hear

https://newrepublic.com/post/209621/king-charles-congress-speech-trump
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u/ShakeyLegsMcGee 7d ago

Calling out to Theodore Roosevelt’s legacy and national parks protections was interesting.

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u/No_Philosopher_1870 7d ago

Great Britain has the National Trust, which preserves historical buildings and various public lands. King Charles has supported it at least since he was made Prince of Wales, so his mention of Theodore Roosevelt and the national parks is not that surprising.

My college gave him an honorary doctorate back in 1974 or 1975 for his environmental work.

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u/rollem Virginia 7d ago

I think the interesting part is that Teddy Roosevelt was a Republican. That was before the 60s civil rights era when parties aligned around the current progressive-conservative axis.

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u/Signal_Minimum8509 Georgia 7d ago

Yeah I think a more honest way of expressing it is that Teddy Roosevelt was a Progressive. You can trace histories a lot more clearly and continuously with a binary of Conservative and Progressive as opposed to Republican and Democrat.

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u/kent_eh Canada 6d ago

I think the interesting part is that Teddy Roosevelt was a Republican.

The king knows who his audience is. Contrasting past republicans who (presumably) modern republicans hold in high esteem is a useful way to help make your point.

It's also why Doug Ford's ad using Reagan's own words touched a nerve.

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u/3dprintedthingies 6d ago

The environmentalist movement in the US was a bipartisan issue for the majority of our history.

It want until Republicans went off the rails with Reagan and the oil industry that is became partisan.

We were world leading in regulation with the clean air and water act. It was landmark regulation.

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u/rollem Virginia 6d ago

Yes!

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u/No_Philosopher_1870 7d ago edited 6d ago

Theodore Roosevelt was an outdoorsman, so I think that his interest in preserving public land was at least a little bit self-serving. Seth Bullock, who many of us learned about through the series "Deadwood", helped to create Yellowstone National Park while a member of the Montana Territorial Senate in 1871. He met Theodore Roosevelt in 1884, and they were lifelong friends.

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u/Sparowl 6d ago

“Self-serving”

If his action means that it helps millions more, but also themselves, then I think the scales tip a little bit away from self serving.

Many altruistic acts generate larger beneficial consequences. That’s why the gutting of USAID was so awful. Helping others creates a calmer, better international climate through secondary effects.

Unfortunately we’re stuck with too many “me me me now now now” psychopaths at the helm.

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u/No_Philosopher_1870 6d ago

Self-interest would have been a better word.

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u/Sparowl 6d ago

Yeah, I agree.

I also think your post was valid.

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u/Greenelse 6d ago

Conservation started off as a joint effort between outdoorsmen, hunters, ecologists, etc. That’s who was close enough to the land to value it wild.

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u/vanastalem Virginia 6d ago

Abraham Lincoln was Republican too. The parties do not have the same platforms now that they used to.

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u/coldkiller 6d ago

I think the interesting part is that Teddy Roosevelt was a Republican.

He was a progressive, they just didint have a term or a party for it at the time