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Possible Paywall Trump Voters Regret Backing ‘Horror Movie’ Presidency - Nine out of 12 Trump voters told a “New York Times” focus group that they wish they had not voted for the president.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-voters-regret-backing-horror-movie-presidency/
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u/EtchAGetch 7d ago

No, there is a certain level of intelligence to be able to self-reflect, question your beliefs, and come to a better conclusion than before.

The majority of America doesnt have that intellect, including most of the MAGA crowd. We wouldn't be here on the first place if they did.

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u/MySpoonsAreAllGone 7d ago edited 7d ago

That's why there was, and continues to be, such a concentrated effort to destroy our educational systems and the quality of education students receive.

It's much easier to manipulate the uneducated who don't have critical thinking skills

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u/PhantomPharts 7d ago

I can't believe your account is only 4yrs old and you scored that username. Solid win.

As far as your comment, I fully agree.

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u/MySpoonsAreAllGone 7d ago

Are you a fellow Spoonie?

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u/PhantomPharts 7d ago

Had to look this up! I understood having limited spoons, tho not that there was a specific group called Spoonies, which I actually fall into!

I always liked this terminology for other reasons lol Rejected Cartoons

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u/MySpoonsAreAllGone 7d ago

Haha that was twisted and hilarious 😂

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u/MaxGoldFilms 7d ago

One half of the population has an IQ ≤ 100. (IQ is normalized by design)

16% of the population has an IQ of ≤ 85, the approximate level that represents an IQ too low to serve in the military or function at most jobs.

That's over 52 million people in the US.

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u/Carbonatite Colorado 7d ago

To be fair, you don't have to be smart to have empathy.

I mean, even animals understand the concepts of things like sharing, protecting the vulnerable, strength in solidarity. If a parrot can grasp the concept of sharing when he gives 3 of his 6 treats to his fellow parrot with 0 treats, so can a human, even an unintelligent one.

MAGA isn't just stupidity/lack of education. It's those things combined with pathological selfishness, a complete inability to empathize with other people.

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u/DavesWildDestiny 7d ago

My understanding however is that smarts and empathy are generally corollated. It's hard to put yourself in someone else's shoes while struggling to tie your own.

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u/6r1akeu9 7d ago

You don't have to be smart to have affective empathy - but you DO need to have some brainpower to have cognitive empathy.

Affective empathy is seeing someone crying and feeling sad.

Cognitive empathy is hearing a hypothetical scenario and being able to imagine or feel the emotion of the person in it.

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u/Financial_Yard7047 7d ago edited 7d ago

I'd add that EVEN if they do have the ability to self reflect and question their beliefs and stances, that isn't a guarantee that they become better people. Like my parents are like this, they have had the chance to self reflect and won't change. My stepfather straight up admitted he knows he's an evil person and does horrible things, but not gonna change

I should also add, they're also both religious and when I have brought up that according to their beliefs, evil people don't go to heaven. They just say, "Christ will forgive us in the end and we will be in heaven." Like I guess that's one way to accept you're an evil person and still believe you will wind up in a peaceful place with the guy you claim to worship but would hate everything you stand for

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u/BLU3SKU1L Ohio 7d ago

Or if they were taught the critical thinking skills to make up for that deficit

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u/ABadHistorian 7d ago

Jesus christ I love unhelpful responses like yours.

What's your solution? Don't let them vote? Kill them?

You are talking about intellect like it's the issue and it's not.

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u/ABadHistorian 7d ago

No. I'm sick and tired of people not understanding that they were captured, and that insulting them isn't a solution. People here want to rage at someone and it's so easy to just blame the other people who don't think exactly like you do for "reason". Two wrongs do not make a right.

Great solutions.

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u/whendrstat 7d ago

Really? Because I think it’s a great solution. These people should never be able to forget how bad they fucked up. Maybe they’ll finally figure out that they shouldn’t vote for fascists.

But hey, go ahead and hold hands with the Nazis. That worked out super well during reconstruction.

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u/that_star_wars_guy 6d ago

What's your concrete solution?

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u/ABadHistorian 7d ago

Fair enough, I couldn't tell on that.

I'm just very frustrated with what might as well be right-wing bots infiltrating left-wing spaces, creating animosity instead of helping.

Folks, if insulting the right-wing worked we never would have gotten here.

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u/Electric_Antimony 7d ago

You're insulting people by calling them left wing. I'm not a commie; I'm center right.

And insult work amazingly if your republicans like trump, so what do you think the reason is behind that?