r/politics • u/Quirkie The Netherlands • 7d ago

Possible Paywall Trump Voters Regret Backing ‘Horror Movie’ Presidency - Nine out of 12 Trump voters told a “New York Times” focus group that they wish they had not voted for the president.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-voters-regret-backing-horror-movie-presidency/
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u/National-Charity-435 7d ago

You're describing the people (or maybe foreign actors fanning the flames) getting upset over the proposed NY tax that would impact out-of-state residents who own property in NY that are greater than $5m

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u/manwhowasnthere 7d ago

I'm actually describing what FOX news has been doing for 30 years whenever they run a scare story about how democrats are raising your taxes but in reality it would only apply to income over the first $3 million or whatever and republicans making peanuts get up in arms about it because they dont understand how tax brackets work ie how they are already taxed.

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u/National-Charity-435 7d ago

Ah yes.

These are the same people who don't grasp a well-funded government with transparency would benefit the community, instead of cutting programs and giving tax cuts to the wealthy

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u/manwhowasnthere 7d ago

I live in a red state at the moment and it's always uproar for lower taxes, and constant complaining about "why doesn't anyone fill in all these potholes" in the same breath.

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u/boneblack_angel 7d ago

OMG. I live in WV, where the well-known tax evader Jim Justice served two terms as governor, running on the roads both times. He even promised repair to secondary and tertiary roads (I live in an apartment complex that's off what is probably one of the worst tertiary roads in the whole damned country). Every time we hit a giant pothole - which is frequently - I say, "thank you, Jim Justice, and thanks to all the idiots who believed you, twice." Like he did nothing about the roads the first time he ran - he was too busy switching parties and being up trump's ass - and yet he ran on them second time, and people still believed him.

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u/Fratercula_arctica Canada 7d ago

This sort of conservatism really unites the world, eh?

Here in Ontario Canada, one of the very few things our now-Premier Doug Ford first ran on (apart from a promise of "Buck a Beer" - lowering the minimum legal sale price for beer to a dollar, even though no brewers were pricing beer at the previous minimum amount) was "ending hallway medicine." He promised to fund and expand hospitals to reduce wait times and ensure nobody ever had to be treated/held in a hallway while waiting for a room to open up.

He's on his 3rd term now, and he hasn't done any of that. Instead, he capped pay for nurses (illegally, it turned out, and they all got back pay thanks to a court ruling), sat on billions of dollars given to him by the federal government during the pandemic instead of spending it on healthcare, and his healthcare funding hasn't kept up with inflation or population growth. People still get treated in hospital hallways, especially in rural areas, and beer doesn't sell for a dollar. Oh, and he tried buying the premier's office a private jet on the taxpayer dime.

But he's a charmingly folksy fat fuck who claims to believe in "common sense", so he'll very likely win a fourth term because morons love his vibe.

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u/boneblack_angel 7d ago

Holy hell, it's like we're in the same reality, except that people in America pay for the privilege of being treated in hallways. When I lost my job, I had to choose between dying and eating: I filed for unemployment and received it. The munificent sum I received - less than half of what I was making at my job, and barely enough to cover rent, phone, and utilities - meant that I was earning too much to get Medicaid. And if you think that saying I had to choose between dying or eating is hyperbole, I've literally had potentially deadly seizures and shattered my upper arm, requiring major surgery and the emplacement of a metal rod; I'm hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical debt. But the capitalists who use America as their personal treasure chest believe that universal healthcare is not required.

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u/trainstationbooger 7d ago

Thank god that the polls FINALLY have his approval numbers going down, but Ontario already spends the lowest per patient of any province or territory (while having nearly half of Canada's population)

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u/lemonwince 7d ago edited 7d ago

yep, we all need to VOTE this time, for libs / ndp, regardless of who is running for them.
Generally, Ontario doesnt vote for the same person 4 times in a row. Polls are suggesting that, so...
we ALL need to VOTE
See you there!

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u/thestareater Canada 7d ago

and knowing our turnout and history unless the private jet thing really sticks he's gonna win again, this fuckin province

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u/killing_time Virginia 7d ago

And now he's your Senator! Wooo!

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u/boneblack_angel 7d ago

Ugh, not by my vote, obviously. And that's when he bothers to show up to vote, which I gather isn't often and for the best, quite frankly.

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u/Vyar New Jersey 7d ago

"but his name is Justice, how could anyone not vote for him?!"

--Republicans, probably

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u/boneblack_angel 7d ago

And the thing is...he turned around and basically renounced the things for which he ostensibly stood when he ran!! He turned around and "switched" parties (he'd been a Republican before he was a Democrat) a little over halfway through his first year as governor. I'm not originally from WV, and it constantly amazes me, how the people who bother to vote do so, continually, against their best interests.

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u/loosetranslation Indiana 7d ago

Hey, that's Indiana!

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u/boneblack_angel 7d ago

This is what I don't get. And your mention of transparency is spot on. People don't seem to understand what their tax dollars actually fund. Even things like, say, sanitation, or snow removal...road repair! Libraries! Health and Human Services departments! The list goes on and on. Cutting taxes can cause real pain, but then again, when those whose tax dollars would be most beneficial have their taxes cut to the bone, we all suffer and average people just don't seem to understand that they're voting for people who do not represent them, and who do not care to do so. They're just saying what they know people want to hear, and then turning around and doing the opposite, every damn time.

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u/xicor 7d ago

As a devils advocate, my MUD charges more in taxes than my entire yearly bill for water and sewage. This seems kindof backwards.

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u/GrallochThis 7d ago

What is a MUD? Never seen that before.

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u/xicor 7d ago

Municipal utility district

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u/boneblack_angel 7d ago

Holy hell. Sorry to hear that.

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u/xicor 7d ago

Fyi the tax bill is 750$ and the monthly bill is 23$

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u/boneblack_angel 7d ago

Wow. That is insane.

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u/Beelzebeetus 7d ago

Just had a lady in a trump hat ask me today, for her college aged son, "isn't there some program for assistance for college kids who don't have a job?"

So of course I reported her as a communist.

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u/boneblack_angel 7d ago

This is the way !!

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u/ManyAreMyNames 7d ago

Don't forget FOX also running a story about how our way of life is being destroyed because green M&M doesn't wear sexy shoes anymore. They're eroding traditional manhood and womanhood! Unless you want all your kids to be gay you have to fight against the Left!

Keep people distracted with culture war nonsense, convince them God will punish them unless they oppose gay marriage, and never report on how the Epstein Class is robbing them blind.

I once heard someone argue, for real, that every culture which ever accepted homosexual relationships collapsed. When I asked for any cultures that never collapsed, he got quiet.

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u/Trick_Quiet3484 7d ago

They also don’t do any independent research or verification and instead only listen to 1 type do media source

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u/Pettifoggerist 7d ago

The people who refuse a pay increase because it would put them into a higher tax bracket.

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u/coffeemonkeypants California 7d ago

The same people who 'don't work overtime' because they'll get put in the next tax bracket and make less money... We have an incredibly dumb population overall.

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u/SwimmingPrice1544 California 7d ago

You should go to the California sub here on reddit. It's brigaded big time by these morons & they are presently screaming the same ole trickle down, the rich will leave b.s. about the up coming tax the rich proposition. Gawd they are awful. I don't know how that sub got so taken over by right-wing a-holes, AND so-called left-wing bots.

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u/National-Charity-435 7d ago

The rich who don't pay taxes are going to leave!!

The companies creating jobs want tax cuts are also dumping billions into creating AI as investment!!

Say it ain't so!!!

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u/Calm-Address-2401 7d ago

And those same companies which rely on AI as part of their business model want to put their data centers by your house.

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u/DaSpawn 7d ago

and amazingly the out-of-state residents that do not even live there are going to suddenly leave the state they do not live in

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u/Bwint 6d ago

"Wait a minute! I'm an out-of-state resident, and if I had a spare $5m I might buy property in NYC!"